Snit - 3 lies, one short paragraph. Troll alert

Snit
Thu, 23 Jul 2020 20:49:46 GMT
in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:

On Jul 23, 2020 at 3:31:12 AM MST, "Diesel"
wrote:


Mon,
20 Jul 2020 11:55:50 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:
[snip]

The fact you felt the need to add multiple other groups to the
thread and the fact you engage in name calling is a clear
demonstration of the accuracy of his comments about you.

I have history with HH that you're not aware of, Snit. I added the
other groups to make sure various places he frequents aren't conned by
his facade. Not that I actually have doubt most/all of the regulars of
those newsgroups don't already know what HH is really like.

With regard to your petty effort to call me out for name calling, why
didn't you do the same thing to Joel when he used some well, schoolyard
grade adjectives for me? Why the double standard, Snit?

HH hasn't written a single thing that's accurate concerning me, Snit. I
met HH on another newsgroup when David Brooks solicited his help in
attempting to determine where I lived. HH was easily conned initially
into helping David try and do that. The only reason he backed off is
because he discovered, thanks to David running his big fat mouth off,
some of my background and determined I probably wasn't one he should be
playing 'who's the better hacker games with'; especially considering I
actually am one, with plenty of papers to back my claim up; And he's a
well.. nothing in the scene.

Is that something you can understand?

I do hope you understand the explanation I provided. As well, you're
presently talking out of turn as some would say.

And, again, you were
more than a slight asshat when you became Davids bitch so quick
and help him to try and dox me on usenet. That was so kind of
you.

You told the same lies about me -- saying I was blindly listening
to David. You must think you are so clever that people need
someone like David to help understand how you do things like you
did above -- engaged in sophomoric attacks and trolling
crossposting.

I haven't written any lies about you Snit. Not a single one. And, I
can, just as I've always done, provide MIDs to backup everything I
wrote concerning HH and how I know the individual. Infact, Snit, I've
already shared some with you before; you opted to ignore them because
they don't show David as quite the nice guy you both try and pass him
off as.

With all due respect, you're talking out of turn on this subject.
Entirely, out of turn.

He played you and Savageduck like bitches, and you (not
Savageduck) actually took his bull****.

Why not just stop your crossposting trolling and your name calling
and your silly accusations? Why not work to move forward in peace?
What is it about you that stops you from being a better person,
and what prevents you from understanding what you read so often?

I didn't initiate crossposting for the purposes of trolling, Snit.
While I agree, I could have been very PC concerning them, bitch is a
very descriptive adjective in this particular case, and, it's accurate.
They did, for a period of time, become Davids bitch; willingly.
Savageduck quickly! realized David wasn't what he claimed to be and
kf'd him in short order.

HH didn't do that so fast. Instead, he took David at his word, no
questions asked, and attempted to help David continue stalking me for
the purposes of an accurate doxing. David has already tried, six or
seven other times, Snit. You seem to give David a freepass anytime he
posts something to me, doesn't matter how much negativity is present,
you remain silent. I've offered to show you proof of that many times
now, you continue telling me you aren't interested. So, being as you
aren't interested in learning what's going on; why do you feel so
compelled to respond and insert yourself into the conversation when you
clearly know NOTHING about it?

You didn't jump on Joel for calling me an imbecile amongst other things
either. Only when I began tearing your friends technical knowledge to
pieces did you feel the need to provide your opinion on the subject.
And it wasn't any real surprise to see you basically one sided with it.

It's still possible if you really want peace between us. Quite simple.
I have two requests. One, stop lying about me, or to me. Two, apologize
for a specific series of lies you already wrote. I won't even request
any apology for your other ones; and yes, I do have more examples of
you lying on me. But, I'm not so petty as to expect an apology for each
and every one.

Oh, and enough with your silly efforts to project your known and very
well documented reading comprehension issues on me, Snit. It's never
going to work. And, I've already explained why, several times now. I
even offered you a simple way out, and I went so far as to tell you I'd
eat my own words.

All you had to do to prove I have a serious reading comprehension issue
is explain how I did the things in my videos with that disability, as
well as explain the jobs I do in two different, but related fields.
Especially considering that both are very technical in nature on their
own, and the reading material isn't exactly something most people would
wake up and look forward to reading. Unless, like me, you like reading
schematics and blueprints?

I built the circuits you see in my videos Snit. people who have serious
problems understanding what they read aren't that likely to
successfully build a battery powered jacobs ladder.

Now then, let's see those lies you wrote about me again:

http://al.howardknight.net/?ID=159159190100
Diesel made it clear he had access not just to the output of the bot
but to the code itself. When called out on this he clarified it was
merely the compiled code he had:


-----
Do you think when you disassemble something that you're
provided the original source code that was
compiled/assembled by the author? You aren't, what you're
given looks nothing like the original source code, but it
still tells you *everything* about the program.
-----

So how did Diesel get a copy of the program, compiled or not? My
guess: he will NEVER say.

I want to see the post(s) where I "made it quite clear" that I had
access to more than just the posts the bots been making (the output -
atleast what's available to an end user; admin may provide more
information). I want to see the post(s) where I was "called out", and
finally, I want to see the post(s) where I clarified I had the
"compiled code".

Those are three, seperate and distinct lies in a very short paragraph.
What you quoted me out of context! doesn't even come close to
supporting your accusation. And, it IS an accusation.

Message-ID:
Snit wrote:
[...] We all make mistakes. I simply cannot see why it matters so
much to Diesel.

Apd responded with this:

None of us like to be accused of doing what we are not.

*** end snippit 1

Message-ID:

Snit wrote this in response to me:

It is my understanding he said you changed topics away from
Carroll's flood bot code to code in general. If he disagrees he
can tell me.

Apd responded to Snit (again) with this:

No I didn't say he changed topics. The talk about code in general was
directly related to the topic of the bot code itself.

For the record, I've know Diesel a long time and while we've had our
run-ins and disagreements, I believe him when he says he has no
access to the flood-bot code. Even if you'd not made the accusation
and thus he'd not have reason to make a denial I'd still believe he
has no access because of what he's been writing about the thing. If
I were a gambling man I'd place a very large bet on him having no
involvement.

*** end snippit 2

As you can see, twice Apd confirms what I accused Snit of doing; that
is, to accuse me of something I did not do. Snit has been trying to
spin the entire thing into a misunderstanding on my part since I began
requesting an Apology for the lies he wrote concerning my knowledge of,
access to, and involvement with the bot.

Message-ID:

Steve Carroll wrote this in response to Apd:
Even if you'd not made the accusation

It's not *just* an accusation (in an endless stream
of them), it's unsupported and clearly made for a
purpose in a campaign to convince readers that 'Snit
is good, Diesel is bad'. There is *no* way you don't
know this, so WTF is the story here?

That story doesn't address the fact that Snit is doing
what we can all clearly see (even DB sees it, he's only
quiet about it because Snit 'supports' his BS). You haven't
noticed the lengths that Snit has gone to in order to keep
attention focused on the bot? Or his over the top, hard sell
that I run it? Or that he's the only person who has tried
to seek benefit from it?

FromTheRafters responded to him with this:

I see it, but I skip most of the bot related posts because I am not
interested in such a lame program.

*** end snippit 3

Once again, you can clearly see two other people have also noticed Snit
lied on me, and is attempting to whitewash it away as a
misunderstanding on my part. It's nothing of the sort. Now, you have
three people, other than myself, who agree that what Snit wrote isn't
true, it wasn't ever true. Snit did infact make a series of unfounded
accusations towards me when he wrote this:

http://al.howardknight.net/?ID=159159190100
Diesel made it clear he had access not just to the output of the bot
but to the code itself. When called out on this he clarified it was
merely the compiled code he had:


-----
Do you think when you disassemble something that you're
provided the original source code that was
compiled/assembled by the author? You aren't, what you're
given looks nothing like the original source code, but it
still tells you *everything* about the program.
-----

So how did Diesel get a copy of the program, compiled or not? My
guess: he will NEVER say.

** end

In case you didn't notice, your efforts to con Apd and Ftr have failed.
They both know what you did, and indicated as such right here, in
public, for us all to see. There's no coalition here, and I didn't
manipulate anyone against you in any way shape or form. You've shown us
all your true colors, Snit, and it's not what you wanted us to see.


They both just need some "shiny" to distract themselves
with. I know the perfect venue for them - it is a very
rich hunting ground for trolling - but so long as they're
being a crappy netcitizen polluting other newsgroups, I'm
not going to tell them where the happy hunting grounds are.

You took Davids bull**** hook line and sinker, and rolled with
it. So if anyone is easily distracted by shiny things, halfasser,
that would certainly be you.


You are blaming David for people noting your actions... how very
immature of you.

You are showing a problem with reading comprehension again, Snit. Maybe
you should consider signing up for some adult education classes to work
on it? Question, when you were doing the college thing to earn your
degrees; did you do it all online, or was it also on campus? The reason
I ask is because i'm trying to figure out how you got them without
having someone else do the majority of the reading and writing on your
behalf. Someone who doesn't have the same issues as yourself,
obviously.

Groups restored; stop trying to hide. I want your replies to be
available to as many people as is possible, Snit. I don't want anyone
else to have to deal with your bull**** lies on them as you're doing
me.



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