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BitMeter2, Help!! Yellow
In article , Andy Burns
wrote: BTW, my grandmother was more familiar with paint (subtractive color mixing) where yellow IS a primary color. What I remember of poster paints at primary school, is that all mixtures tend towards brown that's why printers are cmyk, not cmy (although canon tried that once). |
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BitMeter2, Help!! Yellow
On 08/09/2018 12:20 PM, Andy Burns wrote:
Mark Lloyd wrote: BTW, my grandmother was more familiar with paint (subtractive color mixing) where yellow IS a primary color. What I remember of poster paints at primary school, is that all mixtures tend towards brown I noticed that too, although I called it "dirty gray" rather than brown. -- Mark Lloyd http://notstupid.us/ "The truths of religion are never so well understood as by those who have lost the power of reasoning." -- Voltaire, Philosophical Dictionary, 1764 |
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BitMeter2, Help!! Yellow
In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Thu, 9 Aug 2018 10:25:21 +0100,
Unsteadyken wrote: In article , NONONOmisc07 says... But what does YELLOW mean? Go to settings; Appearance: colours: and it is explained that Yellow indicates Overlap, which is the colour used to draw the parts of the main graph where upload and download bars overlap You're right. I guess I can't fault them for not putting Yellow in Help. Everyone hates to write the Help file. But it's strange. For the first week, all I had was green and red and maybe a tiny bit of yellow. Then it switched to yellow and red and no green, and it's been that way ever since. Maybe that means no interruption in my internet -- checking that was the second reason I got this. (In the past there have been 10 second, 30 second and about 3 minute interruptions, in DSL, fairly frequently for no apparent reason, though it could be Verizon or it could be something about the wiring I've put in. The wiring is buried by papers, boxes, clothes etc. and I won't know what's wierd about it until I clean up. But I don't touch these things and now matter how bad it is, it's still strange that the connection comes and goes. Also there is sometimes hum on he phone lilne. Long periods of no hum, someetimes a little hum, or more hum, and sometimes so much hum neither of us can hear the other. Even though I don't touch the wires. I think maybe the guy in the townhouse next door does something and a coil of wire in my phone line picks it up, if there actually is a coil -- I forget. ) But it's a very impressive program, especially for free (If I use it more than a little, I'll send him some money.) So far I'm up to 23 gigs this month so 5 gigs from the phone will only last 6 days. Still plenty. Thanks, and thanks Andy and Paul. |
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BitMeter2, Help!! Yellow
micky wrote:
In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Thu, 9 Aug 2018 10:25:21 +0100, Unsteadyken wrote: In article , NONONOmisc07 @bigfoot.com says... But what does YELLOW mean? Go to settings; Appearance: colours: and it is explained that Yellow indicates Overlap, which is the colour used to draw the parts of the main graph where upload and download bars overlap You're right. I guess I can't fault them for not putting Yellow in Help. Everyone hates to write the Help file. But it's strange. For the first week, all I had was green and red and maybe a tiny bit of yellow. Then it switched to yellow and red and no green, and it's been that way ever since. Maybe that means no interruption in my internet -- checking that was the second reason I got this. (In the past there have been 10 second, 30 second and about 3 minute interruptions, in DSL, fairly frequently for no apparent reason, though it could be Verizon or it could be something about the wiring I've put in. The wiring is buried by papers, boxes, clothes etc. and I won't know what's wierd about it until I clean up. But I don't touch these things and now matter how bad it is, it's still strange that the connection comes and goes. Also there is sometimes hum on he phone lilne. Long periods of no hum, someetimes a little hum, or more hum, and sometimes so much hum neither of us can hear the other. Even though I don't touch the wires. I think maybe the guy in the townhouse next door does something and a coil of wire in my phone line picks it up, if there actually is a coil -- I forget. ) But it's a very impressive program, especially for free (If I use it more than a little, I'll send him some money.) So far I'm up to 23 gigs this month so 5 gigs from the phone will only last 6 days. Still plenty. Thanks, and thanks Andy and Paul. They should be able to buzz out the line from their end (using automation from their end). This works for a certain set of failure conditions. At my house, I removed the wires leading to the "network" of existing wires, then routed a four wire cable from the basement demarc, to the room with the phone and modem. And that improved both the POTS characteristics and also the ADSL characteristics. (Initially I did that, when my 56K dialup modem would only connect at 33K on downloads. There was a corroded baseboard telephone connector.) It can easily be the house part of the wiring at fault. I've since switched to VOIP to save money, so there's no dial tone on the line and the line is termed a "dry line". As it only has ADSL on it. The ADSL starts at 26KHz in this diagram, making it "above" hearing range if the signal got into a phone. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:A...uency_plan.svg If any frequency bin is impaired, the other frequency bins still work. On some ADSL modems, the DMT utility telnets into the modem and collects statistics. And that allows you to see whether any frequency bins are impaired. The higher the SNR margin, the fewer errors in the transmission, but also the data rate cap can be set too low, in an attempt to manifest a "really good" SNR margin. People used to collect those graphs, for the purpose of contacting Tech Support and having the cap raised a bit. For example, it was popular where I live, to be paying for 5Mbit/sec ADSL, and only receive 3Mbit/sec ADSL, with the line artificially dialed down "for my protection". If I were to access DMT and show them there was plenty of SNR margin, then they might raise it to 4Mbit/sec from 3Mbit/sec. https://cdn.geekzone.co.nz/imagessub...250db1d6f4.jpg DMT software might appear to come in "many versions", like DMT7, DMT8, DMT9. But in fact those exist for separate manufacturers. So maybe version 8 is for Thompson ADSL modems. If I were to upgrade the firmware on my modem, a newer firmware actually removed the DMT feature, so I'd no longer be able to draw that graph. Even dialup modems collect the same (frequency bin) data. Just over a different range of frequencies and bins. Dialup modem data becomes available after the session ends, and you deliver the correct command to the modem to get the data values. You then draw your own graph (there isn't usually a tool for the purpose). Paul |
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BitMeter2, Help!! Yellow
In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Thu, 9 Aug 2018 12:15:21 -0500, Mark Lloyd
wrote: On 08/08/2018 04:27 PM, Andy Burns wrote: micky wrote: Andy Burns wrote: micky wrote: what does YELLOW mean? The overlap of green and red? I think we covered that in the 2nd grade and it doesn't work that way. it's software, it can obey the rules for mixing pigments, or the rules for mixing light (where red+green does equal yellow), or it could invent its own rules and have flashing cyan/magenta for the overlap if it wanted to. It could, although that would be less obvious than yelllow being a mix of red and green. BTW, my grandmother was more familiar with paint (subtractive color mixing) where yellow IS a primary color. Your grandmother and I would probably get along fine. |
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