Problem with chkdsk - was sudden change in startup time

I have been working through some of the ideas suggested on this news group
in connection with my sudden change in startup time but still no joy. I have
tried defragging the disks to see if it could be a disk problem given the cd
icon that appears after the welcome screen appears. I have also checked to
see if the "dirty" bit on the disc is set causing Autochk to run at boot but
it is not set. Whether Autochk is running or not I do not know.

So the next thing I tried was to run Chkdsk from the popup dyalog box with
both disk options checked. I then shutdown the machine and restarted to
allow Chkdsk to run on startup. Well it did but only as far as the intial
boot that is when I assume Chkdsk kicked in but it went no further at least
in the two hours I left the machine alone. The disk light was on all the
time but the screen did not come on. I tried running Chkdsk on another
machine and a pale blue screen appeared and told me what Chkdsk was doing.

For those that understand these things the hardware set up is:

IDE Controller NVIDIA nForce4 Parallel ATA Controller
SCSI/RAID Controller NVIDIA nForce(tm) RAID Class Controller
SCSI/RAID Controller NVIDIA nForce4 Serial ATA RAID Controller
SCSI/RAID Controller NVIDIA nForce4 Serial ATA RAID Controller
SCSI/RAID Controller WDC WD2500JS-00MHB0
SCSI/RAID Controller WDC WD2500JS-00MHB0
Disk Drive NVIDIA STRIPE 465.77G (465 GB)

Any ideas welcome.

Graham.

Graham

Try HD Tune only gives information and does not fix any
problems.

Download and run it and see what it turns up. You want HD Tune
(freeware) version 2.55 not HD Tune Pro (not Freeware) version 3.00.
http://www.hdtune.com/

Select the Info tabs and place the cursor on the drive under Drive
letter and then double click the two page icon ( copy to Clipboard )
and copy into a further message.

Select the Health tab and then double click the two page icon ( copy to
Clipboard ) and copy into a further message. Make sure you do a full
surface scan with HD Tune.

Are any devices malfunctioning? Select Start, All Programs, Accessories,
System Tools, System Information. Open Components under System Summary
and click on Problem Devices. Is anything listed there?

Are there any yellow question marks in Device Manager? Right click on
the My Computer icon on your Desktop and select Properties,
Hardware,Device Manager. If yes what is the Device Error code?

--


Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


Graham wrote:
I have been working through some of the ideas suggested on this news
group in connection with my sudden change in startup time but still
no joy. I have tried defragging the disks to see if it could be a
disk problem given the cd icon that appears after the welcome screen
appears. I have also checked to see if the "dirty" bit on the disc is
set causing Autochk to run at boot but it is not set. Whether Autochk
is running or not I do not know.
So the next thing I tried was to run Chkdsk from the popup dyalog box
with both disk options checked. I then shutdown the machine and
restarted to allow Chkdsk to run on startup. Well it did but only as
far as the intial boot that is when I assume Chkdsk kicked in but it
went no further at least in the two hours I left the machine alone.
The disk light was on all the time but the screen did not come on. I
tried running Chkdsk on another machine and a pale blue screen
appeared and told me what Chkdsk was doing.
For those that understand these things the hardware set up is:

IDE Controller NVIDIA nForce4 Parallel ATA Controller
SCSI/RAID Controller NVIDIA nForce(tm) RAID Class Controller
SCSI/RAID Controller NVIDIA nForce4 Serial ATA RAID Controller
SCSI/RAID Controller NVIDIA nForce4 Serial ATA RAID Controller
SCSI/RAID Controller WDC WD2500JS-00MHB0
SCSI/RAID Controller WDC WD2500JS-00MHB0
Disk Drive NVIDIA STRIPE 465.77G (465 GB)

Any ideas welcome.

Graham.

Graham

Try HD Tune only gives information and does not fix any
problems.

Download and run it and see what it turns up. You want HD Tune
(freeware) version 2.55 not HD Tune Pro (not Freeware) version 3.00.
http://www.hdtune.com/

Select the Info tabs and place the cursor on the drive under Drive
letter and then double click the two page icon ( copy to Clipboard )
and copy into a further message.

Select the Health tab and then double click the two page icon ( copy to
Clipboard ) and copy into a further message. Make sure you do a full
surface scan with HD Tune.

Are any devices malfunctioning? Select Start, All Programs, Accessories,
System Tools, System Information. Open Components under System Summary
and click on Problem Devices. Is anything listed there?

Are there any yellow question marks in Device Manager? Right click on
the My Computer icon on your Desktop and select Properties,
Hardware,Device Manager. If yes what is the Device Error code?

--


Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


Graham wrote:
I have been working through some of the ideas suggested on this news
group in connection with my sudden change in startup time but still
no joy. I have tried defragging the disks to see if it could be a
disk problem given the cd icon that appears after the welcome screen
appears. I have also checked to see if the "dirty" bit on the disc is
set causing Autochk to run at boot but it is not set. Whether Autochk
is running or not I do not know.
So the next thing I tried was to run Chkdsk from the popup dyalog box
with both disk options checked. I then shutdown the machine and
restarted to allow Chkdsk to run on startup. Well it did but only as
far as the intial boot that is when I assume Chkdsk kicked in but it
went no further at least in the two hours I left the machine alone.
The disk light was on all the time but the screen did not come on. I
tried running Chkdsk on another machine and a pale blue screen
appeared and told me what Chkdsk was doing.
For those that understand these things the hardware set up is:

IDE Controller NVIDIA nForce4 Parallel ATA Controller
SCSI/RAID Controller NVIDIA nForce(tm) RAID Class Controller
SCSI/RAID Controller NVIDIA nForce4 Serial ATA RAID Controller
SCSI/RAID Controller NVIDIA nForce4 Serial ATA RAID Controller
SCSI/RAID Controller WDC WD2500JS-00MHB0
SCSI/RAID Controller WDC WD2500JS-00MHB0
Disk Drive NVIDIA STRIPE 465.77G (465 GB)

Any ideas welcome.

Graham.

"Gerry" wrote in message
...
Graham

Try HD Tune only gives information and does not fix any
problems.

Download and run it and see what it turns up. You want HD Tune
(freeware) version 2.55 not HD Tune Pro (not Freeware) version 3.00.
http://www.hdtune.com/

Thanks Gerry. I have just found reference to the /C and /I switches for
Chkdsk and I have managed to run it successfully from the command prompt and
it is telling me there are problems on the disk and to rerun using the /F
switch to fix them. The article also says this can take a long time. Would
you recommend that I follow your suggestion first or run Chkdsk again
overnight and see what happens.

I also came across a reference to the BootOptimise under the Defrag registry
setting in the context of system start problems. Mine is enabled but the
registry entries are saying that the boot defrag was incomplete because of
insufficient space. I do not understand the reason as the disks are not much
more than 10% full:

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Dfrg\BootOpt imizeFunction]
"Enable"="Y"
"LcnStartLocation"="106458717"
"LcnEndLocation"="106714340"
"OptimizeComplete"="No"
"OptimizeError"="Insufficient free space"

Are any devices malfunctioning? Select Start, All Programs, Accessories,
System Tools, System Information. Open Components under System Summary
and click on Problem Devices. Is anything listed there?

No

Are there any yellow question marks in Device Manager? Right click on
the My Computer icon on your Desktop and select Properties,
Hardware,Device Manager. If yes what is the Device Error code?

None

Graham.

"Gerry" wrote in message
...
Graham

Try HD Tune only gives information and does not fix any
problems.

Download and run it and see what it turns up. You want HD Tune
(freeware) version 2.55 not HD Tune Pro (not Freeware) version 3.00.
http://www.hdtune.com/

Thanks Gerry. I have just found reference to the /C and /I switches for
Chkdsk and I have managed to run it successfully from the command prompt and
it is telling me there are problems on the disk and to rerun using the /F
switch to fix them. The article also says this can take a long time. Would
you recommend that I follow your suggestion first or run Chkdsk again
overnight and see what happens.

I also came across a reference to the BootOptimise under the Defrag registry
setting in the context of system start problems. Mine is enabled but the
registry entries are saying that the boot defrag was incomplete because of
insufficient space. I do not understand the reason as the disks are not much
more than 10% full:

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Dfrg\BootOpt imizeFunction]
"Enable"="Y"
"LcnStartLocation"="106458717"
"LcnEndLocation"="106714340"
"OptimizeComplete"="No"
"OptimizeError"="Insufficient free space"

Are any devices malfunctioning? Select Start, All Programs, Accessories,
System Tools, System Information. Open Components under System Summary
and click on Problem Devices. Is anything listed there?

No

Are there any yellow question marks in Device Manager? Right click on
the My Computer icon on your Desktop and select Properties,
Hardware,Device Manager. If yes what is the Device Error code?

None

Graham.

Graham

That registry entry is new to me. I think you are correct it is
indicating a problem.

I would be interested in seeing a Disk Defragmenter report . Open Disk
Defragmenter and click on Analyse. Select View Report and click on Save
As and Save. Now find VolumeC.txt in your My Documents Folder and post a
copy. Do this before running Disk Defragmenter as it is more
informative.

Select Start, All Programs, Accessories, System Tools, Disk CleanUp to
Empty your Recycle Bin and Remove Temporary Internet Files. Also
select Start, All Programs, accessories, System Tools, Disk CleanUp,
More Options, System Restore and remove all but the latest System
Restore point. Run Disk Defragmenter.


--


Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


Graham wrote:
"Gerry" wrote in message
...
Graham

Try HD Tune only gives information and does not fix any
problems.

Download and run it and see what it turns up. You want HD Tune
(freeware) version 2.55 not HD Tune Pro (not Freeware) version 3.00.
http://www.hdtune.com/

Thanks Gerry. I have just found reference to the /C and /I switches
for Chkdsk and I have managed to run it successfully from the command
prompt and it is telling me there are problems on the disk and to
rerun using the /F switch to fix them. The article also says this can
take a long time. Would you recommend that I follow your suggestion
first or run Chkdsk again overnight and see what happens.

I also came across a reference to the BootOptimise under the Defrag
registry setting in the context of system start problems. Mine is
enabled but the registry entries are saying that the boot defrag was
incomplete because of insufficient space. I do not understand the
reason as the disks are not much more than 10% full:

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Dfrg\BootOpt imizeFunction]
"Enable"="Y"
"LcnStartLocation"="106458717"
"LcnEndLocation"="106714340"
"OptimizeComplete"="No"
"OptimizeError"="Insufficient free space"

Are any devices malfunctioning? Select Start, All Programs,
Accessories, System Tools, System Information. Open Components under
System Summary and click on Problem Devices. Is anything listed
there?

No

Are there any yellow question marks in Device Manager? Right click on
the My Computer icon on your Desktop and select Properties,
Hardware,Device Manager. If yes what is the Device Error code?

None

Graham.

Graham

That registry entry is new to me. I think you are correct it is
indicating a problem.

I would be interested in seeing a Disk Defragmenter report . Open Disk
Defragmenter and click on Analyse. Select View Report and click on Save
As and Save. Now find VolumeC.txt in your My Documents Folder and post a
copy. Do this before running Disk Defragmenter as it is more
informative.

Select Start, All Programs, Accessories, System Tools, Disk CleanUp to
Empty your Recycle Bin and Remove Temporary Internet Files. Also
select Start, All Programs, accessories, System Tools, Disk CleanUp,
More Options, System Restore and remove all but the latest System
Restore point. Run Disk Defragmenter.


--


Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


Graham wrote:
"Gerry" wrote in message
...
Graham

Try HD Tune only gives information and does not fix any
problems.

Download and run it and see what it turns up. You want HD Tune
(freeware) version 2.55 not HD Tune Pro (not Freeware) version 3.00.
http://www.hdtune.com/

Thanks Gerry. I have just found reference to the /C and /I switches
for Chkdsk and I have managed to run it successfully from the command
prompt and it is telling me there are problems on the disk and to
rerun using the /F switch to fix them. The article also says this can
take a long time. Would you recommend that I follow your suggestion
first or run Chkdsk again overnight and see what happens.

I also came across a reference to the BootOptimise under the Defrag
registry setting in the context of system start problems. Mine is
enabled but the registry entries are saying that the boot defrag was
incomplete because of insufficient space. I do not understand the
reason as the disks are not much more than 10% full:

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Dfrg\BootOpt imizeFunction]
"Enable"="Y"
"LcnStartLocation"="106458717"
"LcnEndLocation"="106714340"
"OptimizeComplete"="No"
"OptimizeError"="Insufficient free space"

Are any devices malfunctioning? Select Start, All Programs,
Accessories, System Tools, System Information. Open Components under
System Summary and click on Problem Devices. Is anything listed
there?

No

Are there any yellow question marks in Device Manager? Right click on
the My Computer icon on your Desktop and select Properties,
Hardware,Device Manager. If yes what is the Device Error code?

None

Graham.

"Gerry" wrote in message
...
Graham

That registry entry is new to me. I think you are correct it is indicating
a problem.

I would be interested in seeing a Disk Defragmenter report .

OK here it is:

Volume (C
Volume size = 466 GB
Cluster size = 4 KB
Used space = 32.37 GB
Free space = 433 GB
Percent free space = 93 %

Volume fragmentation
Total fragmentation = 0 %
File fragmentation = 1 %
Free space fragmentation = 0 %

File fragmentation
Total files = 115,367
Average file size = 489 KB
Total fragmented files = 514
Total excess fragments = 1,720
Average fragments per file = 1.01

Pagefile fragmentation
Pagefile size = 2.00 GB
Total fragments = 1

Folder fragmentation
Total folders = 10,780
Fragmented folders = 6
Excess folder fragments = 11

Master File Table (MFT) fragmentation
Total MFT size = 131 MB
MFT record count = 127,430
Percent MFT in use = 94 %
Total MFT fragments = 2

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Fragments File Size Most fragmented files
310 30 MB \System Volume
Information\_restore{74E47BD8-8504-4248-ACAF-49B135AAD21F}\RP1074\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SO FTWARE
100 1 KB \Documents and
Settings\Graham\NtUser.dat.LOG
74 6 MB \System Volume
Information\_restore{74E47BD8-8504-4248-ACAF-49B135AAD21F}\RP1074\snapshot\_REGISTRY_USER_NTUSE R_S-1-5-21-1960660287-1441486020-3540908971-1013
73 5 MB \System Volume
Information\_restore{74E47BD8-8504-4248-ACAF-49B135AAD21F}\RP1075\A0267853.dll
71 4 MB \System Volume
Information\_restore{74E47BD8-8504-4248-ACAF-49B135AAD21F}\RP1075\A0267852.dll
71 67 MB \WINDOWS\system32\LogFiles\WMI\trace.log
35 5 MB \System Volume
Information\_restore{74E47BD8-8504-4248-ACAF-49B135AAD21F}\RP1074\snapshot\_REGISTRY_USER_NTUSE R_S-1-5-21-1960660287-1441486020-3540908971-1014
34 8 MB \Documents and Settings\Eleanor\Local
Settings\Application
Data\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\afl3ad4t.default\Cac he\D6505856d01
32 2 MB \System Volume
Information\_restore{74E47BD8-8504-4248-ACAF-49B135AAD21F}\RP1073\A0267819.mfl
25 2 MB \System Volume
Information\_restore{74E47BD8-8504-4248-ACAF-49B135AAD21F}\RP1075\A0267861.dll
25 2 MB \System Volume
Information\_restore{74E47BD8-8504-4248-ACAF-49B135AAD21F}\RP1073\A0267800.dll
25 2 MB \System Volume
Information\_restore{74E47BD8-8504-4248-ACAF-49B135AAD21F}\RP1074\A0267832.dll
25 1 KB \WINDOWS\system32\config\software.LOG
19 1 MB \System Volume
Information\_restore{74E47BD8-8504-4248-ACAF-49B135AAD21F}\RP1075\A0267855.mfl
19 3 MB \System Volume
Information\_restore{74E47BD8-8504-4248-ACAF-49B135AAD21F}\RP1074\snapshot\_REGISTRY_USER_NTUSE R_S-1-5-21-1960660287-1441486020-3540908971-1004
17 1 MB \System Volume
Information\_restore{74E47BD8-8504-4248-ACAF-49B135AAD21F}\RP1073\A0267818.mfl
13 18 MB \Documents and Settings\Graham\Application
Data\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\7zg5l8so.default\pla ces.sqlite
13 10 MB \Documents and Settings\Eleanor\Application
Data\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\afl3ad4t.default\pla ces.sqlite
10 151 KB \System Volume
Information\_restore{74E47BD8-8504-4248-ACAF-49B135AAD21F}\RP1076\change.log
10 409 KB \WINDOWS\Prefetch\Layout.ini
10 1 KB \WINDOWS\system32\config\default.LOG
9 1 KB \Documents and
Settings\NetworkService\ntuser.dat.LOG
8 30 MB \System Volume
Information\_restore{74E47BD8-8504-4248-ACAF-49B135AAD21F}\RP1076\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SO FTWARE
8 3 MB \Documents and Settings\All
Users\Application Data\Microsoft\Windows
Defender\Support\MPLog-02042008-103016.log
8 12 MB \System Volume
Information\_restore{74E47BD8-8504-4248-ACAF-49B135AAD21F}\RP1076\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SY STEM
8 584 KB \Program Files\Microsoft Bootvis\BootVis.exe
7 6 MB \System Volume
Information\_restore{74E47BD8-8504-4248-ACAF-49B135AAD21F}\RP1076\snapshot\Repository\FS\OBJECT S.DATA
7 4 MB \System Volume
Information\_restore{74E47BD8-8504-4248-ACAF-49B135AAD21F}\RP1074\snapshot\_REGISTRY_USER_NTUSE R_S-1-5-21-1960660287-1441486020-3540908971-1015
7 1 KB \Documents and
Settings\LocalService\ntuser.dat.LOG
7 3 MB \System Volume
Information\_restore{74E47BD8-8504-4248-ACAF-49B135AAD21F}\RP1076\snapshot\_REGISTRY_USER_NTUSE R_S-1-5-21-1960660287-1441486020-3540908971-1004

Select Start, All Programs, Accessories, System Tools, Disk CleanUp to
Empty your Recycle Bin and Remove Temporary Internet Files. Also
select Start, All Programs, accessories, System Tools, Disk CleanUp,
More Options, System Restore and remove all but the latest System
Restore point. Run Disk Defragmenter.

I did all that at the start of my attempts to solve this problem with the
exception of the system restore points as I am always reluctant to get rid
of older ones just in case I want to roll back in time if all else fails.
When I ran the disk defrag analysis above it told me there was no need to
defrag the disk which is not surprising as I did it so recently.

Graham.

"Gerry" wrote in message
...
Graham

That registry entry is new to me. I think you are correct it is indicating
a problem.

I would be interested in seeing a Disk Defragmenter report .

OK here it is:

Volume (C
Volume size = 466 GB
Cluster size = 4 KB
Used space = 32.37 GB
Free space = 433 GB
Percent free space = 93 %

Volume fragmentation
Total fragmentation = 0 %
File fragmentation = 1 %
Free space fragmentation = 0 %

File fragmentation
Total files = 115,367
Average file size = 489 KB
Total fragmented files = 514
Total excess fragments = 1,720
Average fragments per file = 1.01

Pagefile fragmentation
Pagefile size = 2.00 GB
Total fragments = 1

Folder fragmentation
Total folders = 10,780
Fragmented folders = 6
Excess folder fragments = 11

Master File Table (MFT) fragmentation
Total MFT size = 131 MB
MFT record count = 127,430
Percent MFT in use = 94 %
Total MFT fragments = 2

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Fragments File Size Most fragmented files
310 30 MB \System Volume
Information\_restore{74E47BD8-8504-4248-ACAF-49B135AAD21F}\RP1074\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SO FTWARE
100 1 KB \Documents and
Settings\Graham\NtUser.dat.LOG
74 6 MB \System Volume
Information\_restore{74E47BD8-8504-4248-ACAF-49B135AAD21F}\RP1074\snapshot\_REGISTRY_USER_NTUSE R_S-1-5-21-1960660287-1441486020-3540908971-1013
73 5 MB \System Volume
Information\_restore{74E47BD8-8504-4248-ACAF-49B135AAD21F}\RP1075\A0267853.dll
71 4 MB \System Volume
Information\_restore{74E47BD8-8504-4248-ACAF-49B135AAD21F}\RP1075\A0267852.dll
71 67 MB \WINDOWS\system32\LogFiles\WMI\trace.log
35 5 MB \System Volume
Information\_restore{74E47BD8-8504-4248-ACAF-49B135AAD21F}\RP1074\snapshot\_REGISTRY_USER_NTUSE R_S-1-5-21-1960660287-1441486020-3540908971-1014
34 8 MB \Documents and Settings\Eleanor\Local
Settings\Application
Data\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\afl3ad4t.default\Cac he\D6505856d01
32 2 MB \System Volume
Information\_restore{74E47BD8-8504-4248-ACAF-49B135AAD21F}\RP1073\A0267819.mfl
25 2 MB \System Volume
Information\_restore{74E47BD8-8504-4248-ACAF-49B135AAD21F}\RP1075\A0267861.dll
25 2 MB \System Volume
Information\_restore{74E47BD8-8504-4248-ACAF-49B135AAD21F}\RP1073\A0267800.dll
25 2 MB \System Volume
Information\_restore{74E47BD8-8504-4248-ACAF-49B135AAD21F}\RP1074\A0267832.dll
25 1 KB \WINDOWS\system32\config\software.LOG
19 1 MB \System Volume
Information\_restore{74E47BD8-8504-4248-ACAF-49B135AAD21F}\RP1075\A0267855.mfl
19 3 MB \System Volume
Information\_restore{74E47BD8-8504-4248-ACAF-49B135AAD21F}\RP1074\snapshot\_REGISTRY_USER_NTUSE R_S-1-5-21-1960660287-1441486020-3540908971-1004
17 1 MB \System Volume
Information\_restore{74E47BD8-8504-4248-ACAF-49B135AAD21F}\RP1073\A0267818.mfl
13 18 MB \Documents and Settings\Graham\Application
Data\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\7zg5l8so.default\pla ces.sqlite
13 10 MB \Documents and Settings\Eleanor\Application
Data\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\afl3ad4t.default\pla ces.sqlite
10 151 KB \System Volume
Information\_restore{74E47BD8-8504-4248-ACAF-49B135AAD21F}\RP1076\change.log
10 409 KB \WINDOWS\Prefetch\Layout.ini
10 1 KB \WINDOWS\system32\config\default.LOG
9 1 KB \Documents and
Settings\NetworkService\ntuser.dat.LOG
8 30 MB \System Volume
Information\_restore{74E47BD8-8504-4248-ACAF-49B135AAD21F}\RP1076\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SO FTWARE
8 3 MB \Documents and Settings\All
Users\Application Data\Microsoft\Windows
Defender\Support\MPLog-02042008-103016.log
8 12 MB \System Volume
Information\_restore{74E47BD8-8504-4248-ACAF-49B135AAD21F}\RP1076\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SY STEM
8 584 KB \Program Files\Microsoft Bootvis\BootVis.exe
7 6 MB \System Volume
Information\_restore{74E47BD8-8504-4248-ACAF-49B135AAD21F}\RP1076\snapshot\Repository\FS\OBJECT S.DATA
7 4 MB \System Volume
Information\_restore{74E47BD8-8504-4248-ACAF-49B135AAD21F}\RP1074\snapshot\_REGISTRY_USER_NTUSE R_S-1-5-21-1960660287-1441486020-3540908971-1015
7 1 KB \Documents and
Settings\LocalService\ntuser.dat.LOG
7 3 MB \System Volume
Information\_restore{74E47BD8-8504-4248-ACAF-49B135AAD21F}\RP1076\snapshot\_REGISTRY_USER_NTUSE R_S-1-5-21-1960660287-1441486020-3540908971-1004

Select Start, All Programs, Accessories, System Tools, Disk CleanUp to
Empty your Recycle Bin and Remove Temporary Internet Files. Also
select Start, All Programs, accessories, System Tools, Disk CleanUp,
More Options, System Restore and remove all but the latest System
Restore point. Run Disk Defragmenter.

I did all that at the start of my attempts to solve this problem with the
exception of the system restore points as I am always reluctant to get rid
of older ones just in case I want to roll back in time if all else fails.
When I ran the disk defrag analysis above it told me there was no need to
defrag the disk which is not surprising as I did it so recently.

Graham.

"Gerry" wrote in message
...
Graham

Try HD Tune only gives information and does not fix any
problems.

Download and run it and see what it turns up. You want HD Tune
(freeware) version 2.55 not HD Tune Pro (not Freeware) version 3.00.
http://www.hdtune.com/

OK done.

Select the Info tabs and place the cursor on the drive under Drive
letter and then double click the two page icon ( copy to Clipboard )
and copy into a further message.

Nothing of any note other than the drive details appear on this page.

Select the Health tab and then double click the two page icon ( copy to
Clipboard ) and copy into a further message. Make sure you do a full
surface scan with HD Tune.

Nothing at all on this page.

The full scan returned no damaged sectors and the sector graphic was
entirely green. This is looking more and more like a corrupt file problem.
Lets hope an overnight run of Chkdsk can sort it out!!!

Graham.

"Gerry" wrote in message
...
Graham

Try HD Tune only gives information and does not fix any
problems.

Download and run it and see what it turns up. You want HD Tune
(freeware) version 2.55 not HD Tune Pro (not Freeware) version 3.00.
http://www.hdtune.com/

OK done.

Select the Info tabs and place the cursor on the drive under Drive
letter and then double click the two page icon ( copy to Clipboard )
and copy into a further message.

Nothing of any note other than the drive details appear on this page.

Select the Health tab and then double click the two page icon ( copy to
Clipboard ) and copy into a further message. Make sure you do a full
surface scan with HD Tune.

Nothing at all on this page.

The full scan returned no damaged sectors and the sector graphic was
entirely green. This is looking more and more like a corrupt file problem.
Lets hope an overnight run of Chkdsk can sort it out!!!

Graham.

"Graham" wrote in message
...
[Snip]
Hopefully the final installment!! My machine booted normally this morning
for the second morning in a row.

I eventually got Chkdsk to run with /r. It still did not throw up the pale
blue screen telling me what it was doing it simply sat there with a
black/blank screen for about 2 hours. It did however create a log saying it
had run successfully and of what it had done (not a great deal) which I
could read from the Winlogon entry in the Event Viewer. Anyone know how to
get Chkdsk to show me what it is doing in future?

I also checked the hard drive and that was shown to be healthy and attempted
to run Bootvis but it would not run on my machine. One article I read said
it did not like SATA. Whilst researching Bootvis problems I came across
reference to the the BootOptimiseFunction registry key. I checked mine and
it was showing an error. So I deleted all but the Enable sub-key - set to
Y - (having taken a back up) and then ran "rundll32 advapi32
ProcessIdleTasks" which I had discovered was what Bootvis runs to optimise
the boot files. This replaced the sub keys I had deleted and they indicated
that the process had now run successfully.

Next my research suggested that my problem could possibly be caused by a
protected windows file problem that could be caused by some updates amongst
other things. So I ran "sfc /scannow" which then asked me for my Windows XP
installation disk and proceeded to replace a number of files with the
originals from the disk. From now on I have set Windows updater to ask me
what it should download and install so I can check this out if my machine
slows down again.

Now unfortunately I cannot say whether one or the combination of both the
above fixed the problem as I did them both during the same day. Although I
did restarts in between each just to check I had not broken anything. The
machine only exhibited the original problem on the first boot of the day
after an overnight shutdown and not on a restart. The last two mornings it
has booted up quickly as it had done before this problem began. Hopefully it
will now continue to do so.

Graham.

"Graham" wrote in message
...
[Snip]
Hopefully the final installment!! My machine booted normally this morning
for the second morning in a row.

I eventually got Chkdsk to run with /r. It still did not throw up the pale
blue screen telling me what it was doing it simply sat there with a
black/blank screen for about 2 hours. It did however create a log saying it
had run successfully and of what it had done (not a great deal) which I
could read from the Winlogon entry in the Event Viewer. Anyone know how to
get Chkdsk to show me what it is doing in future?

I also checked the hard drive and that was shown to be healthy and attempted
to run Bootvis but it would not run on my machine. One article I read said
it did not like SATA. Whilst researching Bootvis problems I came across
reference to the the BootOptimiseFunction registry key. I checked mine and
it was showing an error. So I deleted all but the Enable sub-key - set to
Y - (having taken a back up) and then ran "rundll32 advapi32
ProcessIdleTasks" which I had discovered was what Bootvis runs to optimise
the boot files. This replaced the sub keys I had deleted and they indicated
that the process had now run successfully.

Next my research suggested that my problem could possibly be caused by a
protected windows file problem that could be caused by some updates amongst
other things. So I ran "sfc /scannow" which then asked me for my Windows XP
installation disk and proceeded to replace a number of files with the
originals from the disk. From now on I have set Windows updater to ask me
what it should download and install so I can check this out if my machine
slows down again.

Now unfortunately I cannot say whether one or the combination of both the
above fixed the problem as I did them both during the same day. Although I
did restarts in between each just to check I had not broken anything. The
machine only exhibited the original problem on the first boot of the day
after an overnight shutdown and not on a restart. The last two mornings it
has booted up quickly as it had done before this problem began. Hopefully it
will now continue to do so.

Graham.

Graham

Bootvis is a tool Microsoft withdrew. I cannot say why but it was some
years ago. Originally it was available on their site but now only from
third parties.

The lack of detailed results of what the chkdsk does has always been a
complaint.

A useful source of information about hard drives is HD Tune. However, it
does not report on file and volume structures.

Try HD Tune only gives information and does not fix any problems.

Download and run it and see what it turns up. You want HD Tune
(freeware) version 2.55 not HD Tune Pro (not Freeware) version 3.00.
http://www.hdtune.com/

Select the Info tabs and place the cursor on the drive under Drive
letter and then double click the two page icon ( copy to Clipboard )
and copy into a further message.

Select the Health tab and then double click the two page icon ( copy to
Clipboard ) and copy into a further message. Make sure you do a full
surface scan with HD Tune.

--


Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


Graham wrote:
"Graham" wrote in message
...
[Snip]
Hopefully the final installment!! My machine booted normally this
morning for the second morning in a row.

I eventually got Chkdsk to run with /r. It still did not throw up the
pale blue screen telling me what it was doing it simply sat there
with a black/blank screen for about 2 hours. It did however create a
log saying it had run successfully and of what it had done (not a
great deal) which I could read from the Winlogon entry in the Event
Viewer. Anyone know how to get Chkdsk to show me what it is doing in
future?
I also checked the hard drive and that was shown to be healthy and
attempted to run Bootvis but it would not run on my machine. One
article I read said it did not like SATA. Whilst researching Bootvis
problems I came across reference to the the BootOptimiseFunction
registry key. I checked mine and it was showing an error. So I
deleted all but the Enable sub-key - set to Y - (having taken a back
up) and then ran "rundll32 advapi32
ProcessIdleTasks" which I had discovered was what Bootvis runs to
optimise the boot files. This replaced the sub keys I had deleted
and they indicated that the process had now run successfully.

Next my research suggested that my problem could possibly be caused
by a protected windows file problem that could be caused by some
updates amongst other things. So I ran "sfc /scannow" which then
asked me for my Windows XP installation disk and proceeded to replace
a number of files with the originals from the disk. From now on I
have set Windows updater to ask me what it should download and
install so I can check this out if my machine slows down again.

Now unfortunately I cannot say whether one or the combination of both
the above fixed the problem as I did them both during the same day.
Although I did restarts in between each just to check I had not
broken anything. The machine only exhibited the original problem on
the first boot of the day after an overnight shutdown and not on a
restart. The last two mornings it has booted up quickly as it had
done before this problem began. Hopefully it will now continue to do
so.
Graham.

Graham

Bootvis is a tool Microsoft withdrew. I cannot say why but it was some
years ago. Originally it was available on their site but now only from
third parties.

The lack of detailed results of what the chkdsk does has always been a
complaint.

A useful source of information about hard drives is HD Tune. However, it
does not report on file and volume structures.

Try HD Tune only gives information and does not fix any problems.

Download and run it and see what it turns up. You want HD Tune
(freeware) version 2.55 not HD Tune Pro (not Freeware) version 3.00.
http://www.hdtune.com/

Select the Info tabs and place the cursor on the drive under Drive
letter and then double click the two page icon ( copy to Clipboard )
and copy into a further message.

Select the Health tab and then double click the two page icon ( copy to
Clipboard ) and copy into a further message. Make sure you do a full
surface scan with HD Tune.

--


Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


Graham wrote:
"Graham" wrote in message
...
[Snip]
Hopefully the final installment!! My machine booted normally this
morning for the second morning in a row.

I eventually got Chkdsk to run with /r. It still did not throw up the
pale blue screen telling me what it was doing it simply sat there
with a black/blank screen for about 2 hours. It did however create a
log saying it had run successfully and of what it had done (not a
great deal) which I could read from the Winlogon entry in the Event
Viewer. Anyone know how to get Chkdsk to show me what it is doing in
future?
I also checked the hard drive and that was shown to be healthy and
attempted to run Bootvis but it would not run on my machine. One
article I read said it did not like SATA. Whilst researching Bootvis
problems I came across reference to the the BootOptimiseFunction
registry key. I checked mine and it was showing an error. So I
deleted all but the Enable sub-key - set to Y - (having taken a back
up) and then ran "rundll32 advapi32
ProcessIdleTasks" which I had discovered was what Bootvis runs to
optimise the boot files. This replaced the sub keys I had deleted
and they indicated that the process had now run successfully.

Next my research suggested that my problem could possibly be caused
by a protected windows file problem that could be caused by some
updates amongst other things. So I ran "sfc /scannow" which then
asked me for my Windows XP installation disk and proceeded to replace
a number of files with the originals from the disk. From now on I
have set Windows updater to ask me what it should download and
install so I can check this out if my machine slows down again.

Now unfortunately I cannot say whether one or the combination of both
the above fixed the problem as I did them both during the same day.
Although I did restarts in between each just to check I had not
broken anything. The machine only exhibited the original problem on
the first boot of the day after an overnight shutdown and not on a
restart. The last two mornings it has booted up quickly as it had
done before this problem began. Hopefully it will now continue to do
so.
Graham.