A Windows XP help forum. PCbanter

If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. You may have to register before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below.

Go Back   Home » PCbanter forum » Microsoft Windows XP » General XP issues or comments
Site Map Home Register Authors List Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read Web Partners

How to open a .RAR file????



 
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old November 28th 17, 07:10 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
No_Name
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 177
Default How to open a .RAR file????

I was sent a driver that is a .RAR file extension. I have an old Win9x
era zip file program that says it opens those .RAR files, but it's
choking on this one. I really dont know why those old archaic
compression methods are even use anymore, but this file is indeed a
..RAR.

Can someone recommend a newer program to open .RAR files. (Preferably
free and small). It needs to run on either XP or Win98. I'll probably
use this one time on this driver and likely never need it again....

Any recommendations?

PS. I said I prefer SMALL because I'm on dialup (for downloading). Not
to mention I dont need any large program since this is not something I
will probably never use again.

Ads
  #7  
Old November 28th 17, 10:21 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Paul[_32_]
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 11,873
Default How to open a .RAR file????

wrote:
I was sent a driver that is a .RAR file extension. I have an old Win9x
era zip file program that says it opens those .RAR files, but it's
choking on this one. I really dont know why those old archaic
compression methods are even use anymore, but this file is indeed a
.RAR.

Can someone recommend a newer program to open .RAR files. (Preferably
free and small). It needs to run on either XP or Win98. I'll probably
use this one time on this driver and likely never need it again....

Any recommendations?

PS. I said I prefer SMALL because I'm on dialup (for downloading). Not
to mention I dont need any large program since this is not something I
will probably never use again.


http://7-zip.org/

Download .exe 32-bit x86 1 MB

Supported formats:

Unpacking only: RAR

"7-Zip works in Windows 10 / 8 / 7 / Vista / XP / 2012 / 2008 / 2003 / 2000 / NT."

*******

The "RAR guy" downloads are in the 2MB or so range. RAR
uses the commercial ZIP model - decompression is free,
compression costs money. That's why the 7ZIP guy was able
to get the decompression library for inclusion in 7ZIP, for
unpacking. As the RAR guy wants people to use RAR, so he
wants the widest distribution of decompression packages
possible. To increase the sales of the compression side.
You need to buy his software, if you want to *make* a RAR.

https://rarlab.com/

RAR files also have self-extract capabilities. Some of the
RAR downloads, you double-click to Extract. You might not
need any tool.

*******

Maybe you can unpack on your WinXP machine,
and sneaker-net onto some other machine.

*******

If you have a Linux LiveCD in your collection, the
"archive manager" may have a copy of RAR decompression
in it. Linux can mount the FAT32 or NTFS partition on
your Windows disk, and do read/write to it, and the
Archive Manager will have an Extract button.

This is only practical for you Mr.Dialup, if you
already downloaded that CD at your wifi place. I'm
not recommending Linux if you don't already have
the disc. That would be silly. The top item in
my post is the one I would use, due to the Swiss Army
knife capabilities of it. You're getting some value
out of that 1MB download.

Not everyone likes the File Explorer integration and GUI
on 7ZIP, but I happen to like the tool because of the
problems it solves for me. I don't care what it looks
like, ot that it didn't make me breakfast. It's free.

Paul
  #9  
Old November 28th 17, 10:30 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
No_Name
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 177
Default How to open a .RAR file????

On Tue, 28 Nov 2017 17:21:15 -0500, Paul wrote:

wrote:
I was sent a driver that is a .RAR file extension. I have an old Win9x
era zip file program that says it opens those .RAR files, but it's
choking on this one. I really dont know why those old archaic
compression methods are even use anymore, but this file is indeed a
.RAR.

Can someone recommend a newer program to open .RAR files. (Preferably
free and small). It needs to run on either XP or Win98. I'll probably
use this one time on this driver and likely never need it again....

Any recommendations?

PS. I said I prefer SMALL because I'm on dialup (for downloading). Not
to mention I dont need any large program since this is not something I
will probably never use again.


http://7-zip.org/

Download .exe 32-bit x86 1 MB

Supported formats:

Unpacking only: RAR

"7-Zip works in Windows 10 / 8 / 7 / Vista / XP / 2012 / 2008 / 2003 / 2000 / NT."

*******

The "RAR guy" downloads are in the 2MB or so range. RAR
uses the commercial ZIP model - decompression is free,
compression costs money. That's why the 7ZIP guy was able
to get the decompression library for inclusion in 7ZIP, for
unpacking. As the RAR guy wants people to use RAR, so he
wants the widest distribution of decompression packages
possible. To increase the sales of the compression side.
You need to buy his software, if you want to *make* a RAR.

https://rarlab.com/

RAR files also have self-extract capabilities. Some of the
RAR downloads, you double-click to Extract. You might not
need any tool.

*******

Maybe you can unpack on your WinXP machine,
and sneaker-net onto some other machine.

*******

If you have a Linux LiveCD in your collection, the
"archive manager" may have a copy of RAR decompression
in it. Linux can mount the FAT32 or NTFS partition on
your Windows disk, and do read/write to it, and the
Archive Manager will have an Extract button.

This is only practical for you Mr.Dialup, if you
already downloaded that CD at your wifi place. I'm
not recommending Linux if you don't already have
the disc. That would be silly. The top item in
my post is the one I would use, due to the Swiss Army
knife capabilities of it. You're getting some value
out of that 1MB download.

Not everyone likes the File Explorer integration and GUI
on 7ZIP, but I happen to like the tool because of the
problems it solves for me. I don't care what it looks
like, ot that it didn't make me breakfast. It's free.

Paul


I have 7zip installed, but never knew it would work on a .RAR. I dont
understand why anyone would use .RAR, or 7Z, or those .TAR files. You'd
think that by now they would have standardized everything to use .ZIP,
which is the most common. It would be so much easier if it was all the
same. Most of the time, once I unpack one of the oddball formats, I
re-compress it with ZIP, and store it that way (since I usually save all
the stuff I download, unless it's junk).

I do know, the older version of Winzip I have on my Win98 comp could not
handle this .RAR file. It opened it, but coulod not extract it. I have
that same version of Winzip on my XP machines. I never saw a need to
upgrade it. Maybe the newest version would open this .RAR, but who
knows...

I did manage to extract it with that trial version of Winrar. I made an
installer on a flash drive, then re-compressed it with Winzip for
safekeeping. (storage).


  #10  
Old November 29th 17, 12:58 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
No_Name
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 627
Default How to open a .RAR file????

On Tue, 28 Nov 2017 16:12:36 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 28 Nov 2017 16:19:23 -0500,
wrote:

On Tue, 28 Nov 2017 14:10:56 -0500,
wrote:

I was sent a driver that is a .RAR file extension. I have an old Win9x
era zip file program that says it opens those .RAR files, but it's
choking on this one. I really dont know why those old archaic
compression methods are even use anymore, but this file is indeed a
.RAR.

Can someone recommend a newer program to open .RAR files. (Preferably
free and small). It needs to run on either XP or Win98. I'll probably
use this one time on this driver and likely never need it again....

Any recommendations?

PS. I said I prefer SMALL because I'm on dialup (for downloading). Not
to mention I dont need any large program since this is not something I
will probably never use again.


Winrar should do it. I suppose you may have to go to oldversion.com to
find the W/98 version tho.


I got it, got the XP version, so I put it on my XP machine. It did work.
It's a TRIAL version, expires in 40 days. But it opened this one file so
I guess I can remove the program now.
Thanks


I think that may be one of those that just gives you a nag screen but
keeps running after it expires.
  #12  
Old November 29th 17, 01:29 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Paul[_32_]
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 11,873
Default How to open a .RAR file????

wrote:
On Tue, 28 Nov 2017 17:30:54 -0500,
wrote:


I have 7zip installed, but never knew it would work on a .RAR. I dont
understand why anyone would use .RAR, or 7Z, or those .TAR files. You'd
think that by now they would have standardized everything to use .ZIP,
which is the most common. It would be so much easier if it was all the
same. Most of the time, once I unpack one of the oddball formats, I
re-compress it with ZIP, and store it that way (since I usually save all
the stuff I download, unless it's junk).

Rar is more than just a compression program that bundles stuff in a
compressed format like Zip. It will also split those files into
manageable chunks if you are posting to a place with size limits. In
fact that is usually what it gets used for. If you have a big video
and you want to put it on a binary news group, you pretty much need to
rar it or use some other program to split it up and reassemble it on
the other end.


I tried to explain in a previous post, about the
"classes" of compressors and space/time tradeoffs.

The reason we can't "just settle" for ZIP, is it's
the middle class of the three classes. Whereas 7Z native
and RAR are the upper class compressors. They take a lot
of time, but they make for smaller downloads, which is
important to web sites who have to pay their
bandwidth bills.

So while a ZIP is "good enough" for someone managing
a few files on their computer, for a website you want
bzip, xz, rar, 7z, one of those compression methods.
And that requires keeping a Swiss Army Knife handy to
open them all.

And a number of compressors have "chunking" or "segmentation".

Usually the last file has the index, and the decompression
program might need to see the index before it asks for
"disk 1" and so on. On 7Z, it even has convenient
directives, like "floppy sized chunks" or "CD sized chunks",
so the user doesn't have to do some math to pick a size.
A "FAT32" sized chunk, is a case of staying below the
4GB file size limit on a FAT32 volume. So if you have
a 32GB flash stick formatted FAT32, and need to store
a 31GB file on it, you can run that through 7ZIP in
7Z Store mode (no compression, fast), set the chunk size
to FAT32 max, and it would store eight approx 4GB files
on your 32GB USB stick. You can defeat the file size
limit on a storage device, by segmenting it with a
compressor program - and without even actually enabling
compression, so the files become no smaller.

Once you've segmented a file like that, the "chunks" could
be written to DVD if you want.

And if you tick the "self-extracting" box, at least one
of the files will have an EXE extension, and you can
give the file set to another person, and they won't
need to download any program to open it. This capability
is abbreviated SFX for Self Xtracting, and that term
is used on a number of products.

Paul
 




Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off






All times are GMT +1. The time now is 12:45 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2004-2024 PCbanter.
The comments are property of their posters.