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O.T. Mrimg backups, clones, restore images step by step (Paul)



 
 
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Old April 23rd 18, 11:41 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Mark Twain
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Awhile ago, you had given me links for
step by step instructions for Mrimg backups,
cloning and restore but now they no longer work.

https://postimg.org/image/f664kgrzh/

https://postimg.org/image/soq5qlgrx/

https://postimg.org/image/458x0anpn/

https://postimg.org/image/f664kgrzh/

Is it possible to get another set? This time
I'll copy/ past each frame in a folder in case
I loose the URL again.

Thanks,
Robert
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Old April 23rd 18, 11:58 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Paul[_32_]
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Mark Twain wrote:
Awhile ago, you had given me links for
step by step instructions for Mrimg backups,
cloning and restore but now they no longer work.

https://postimg.org/image/f664kgrzh/

https://postimg.org/image/soq5qlgrx/

https://postimg.org/image/458x0anpn/

https://postimg.org/image/f664kgrzh/

Is it possible to get another set? This time
I'll copy/ past each frame in a folder in case
I loose the URL again.

Thanks,
Robert


Due to a recent legal change in the USA, the site lost
its domain name. And the domain name is slightly different now.
(It's possible your fourth link, is a duplicate of the first.)

https://postimg.cc/image/f664kgrzh/

https://postimg.cc/image/soq5qlgrx/

https://postimg.cc/image/458x0anpn/

If you right-click and view image or the like, the
item should download as a single GIF file. Playing
with the mouse, should magnify so that a portion of
the GIF is visible at any time.

Once the image is downloaded and on your disk,
you can try drag and drop to the browser, to
view the file locally. That's easier than using
another tool to view/scroll.

Paul
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Old April 24th 18, 06:51 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Mark Twain
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Many thanks,....

BTW, I checked the Seagate HD again and
they dropped in price to $55.85!

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...82E16822148834


Robert
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Old April 24th 18, 03:01 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
J. P. Gilliver (John)[_4_]
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Default O.T. Mrimg backups, clones, restore images step by step (Paul)

In message , Mark
Twain writes:
Many thanks,....

BTW, I checked the Seagate HD again and
they dropped in price to $55.85!

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...82E16822148834


Robert


For those who'd forgotten: this is a 2T 3.5" drive. I clicked to see.

Also, when I got there, I got a popup saying something like "you seem to
be in UK - do you want to try a newegg site in UK"? I did, out of
curiosity, and it's asking 93.99 _pounds_ - _ex_cluding tax! I don't
know who they think they're kidding, but ... (I've seen a 3T 3.5" WD red
for 51+2.90 pounds, or a Seagate 2T 3.5" for 46+5.)
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Old April 24th 18, 07:21 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Jeff Barnett[_2_]
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Default O.T. Mrimg backups, clones, restore images step by step (Paul)

Mark Twain wrote on 4/23/2018 11:51 PM:
Many thanks,....

BTW, I checked the Seagate HD again and
they dropped in price to $55.85!

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...82E16822148834


You might follow the above link for curiosity but look at reviews before
purchasing. Thirty (30) percent gave one star out of five.
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Old April 26th 18, 04:26 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Mark Twain
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Default O.T. Mrimg backups, clones, restore images step by step (Paul)

Just as you describe John:

http://i65.tinypic.com/2u97qzb.jpg

but was able to purchase the 54.99 one
which came to $58.99 and the reviews
look good to me.

Robert
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Old April 29th 18, 02:25 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Mark Twain
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The HD arrived and says ST2000DM001
on the label.

I just want to make sure I understand
how to do this. I clone the HD for the
8500 via Macrium, then I remove the
present HD from the 8500 and put the
spare HD in and let it boot to the
desktop then shutdown, Then replace 8500
HD, correct?

Is there anything else I should do?

Robert
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Old April 29th 18, 05:16 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Paul[_32_]
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Mark Twain wrote:
The HD arrived and says ST2000DM001
on the label.

I just want to make sure I understand
how to do this. I clone the HD for the
8500 via Macrium, then I remove the
present HD from the 8500 and put the
spare HD in and let it boot to the
desktop then shutdown, Then replace 8500
HD, correct?

Is there anything else I should do?

Robert


If the new drive is going to be used to boot the 8500,
then the OS you clone should also be an OS used with
the 8500.

The backup drive you currently have setup for backing
up the 8500, should have a small C: drive and a larger
backup partition on it. That C: drive would likely be
an ideal size for the cloning operation.

The current C: drive in the 8500, you may have made it
larger in capacity for that partition, or filled it
with a lot more files. Cloning the current C: inside the
8500, might not be as efficient. But it's your choice
which one you want to clone.

In Disk Management, you need a partition with
System and Boot and Active, to form a "complete set".
For example, if your cloned C: from before, had all of
those properties, it would be a complete solution for
cloning over. Booting setups consist of one or two
partitions, and it's possible your C: currently
is self-contained and ready for the purpose. Just
a guess on my part.

That's why I figure, your current backup drive for the
8500, is likely to already be "preppad" for the task,
and would be a good thing to clone.

Paul
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Old April 29th 18, 04:48 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Mark Twain
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Understood, by using the WD HD OS, there's
much more free space vs the present 8500
HD and then I could just use a Mrimg file
to bring it up to date if need be.

Also as you say it's already prepped, so
in that case I would or wouldn't have to
install the new HD to boot?

Thanks,
Robert
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Old April 29th 18, 05:02 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Paul[_32_]
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Mark Twain wrote:
Understood, by using the WD HD OS, there's
much more free space vs the present 8500
HD and then I could just use a Mrimg file
to bring it up to date if need be.

Also as you say it's already prepped, so
in that case I would or wouldn't have to
install the new HD to boot?

Thanks,
Robert


You should clone the new drive inside the 8500,
and verify it boots (by itself) after the clone
is finished.

1) Clone an OS onto the new drive. It doesn't
matter how this step is done. Macrium can do this.

2) Shut down the computer. Make the new drive, the only
hard drive in the computer. Boot the PC with it, and
verify the cloned OS works properly.

3) Shut down again. Put the "normal" drive back in the PC.
Remove the new drive and place it inside the USB enclosure.
Boot the normal drive. When you connect the enclosured drive,
use Disk Management to add the larger "backup partition".
Give the partition a name, say "8500bkp2" or similar.

You want to make sure the drive is ready for an emergency,
when you again put the drive back inside the PC to be used
as its boot device. The 8500 backup drive can boot the 8500.
The 780 backup drive can boot the 780. Since each has different
driver files, that's the simplest way to run them and keep
everybody happy.

Paul
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Old April 29th 18, 06:48 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Mark Twain
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I do have a backup drive for the 780 but I want to
buy 2 more HD's since you said they are becoming
hard to find and I want to be prepared just in case
while I can still get them.

I want to make another backup HD for the 780 and
then have a second for either the 8500 or 780 which
is why I asked the question could I put both.

Robert


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Old April 29th 18, 08:41 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Paul[_32_]
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Mark Twain wrote:
I do have a backup drive for the 780 but I want to
buy 2 more HD's since you said they are becoming
hard to find and I want to be prepared just in case
while I can still get them.

I want to make another backup HD for the 780 and
then have a second for either the 8500 or 780 which
is why I asked the question could I put both.

Robert


Backup drives aren't getting hard to find.

"Enclosures I like" are harder to find.
The next enclosure I use, will be parts from
an enclosure I don't like, plus a housing I make
myself for the thing (metalwork and fan).

Quality hard drives I can trust, are getting hard to find.
Seagate switching to SMR doesn't please me very much.
Finding the more expensive WDC drives spinning down in
mid-session, doesn't make me very happy either.

I'm just a hard-to-please customer :-)
I won't accept any old piece of dreck.

I have a drive here that's been spinning for 40000
hours, and there's not a scratch on it. *That's*
the kind of drives I like. You don't get those
every day.

If you like your new DM001, you could buy a
couple more bare mechanisms today, and worry
about enclosures later. Then you'll have stock
in hand (the storage part, being the most
important part of your project).

*******

For *any* drive, it pays to transfer some files
to them ("test" files) and make sure there are
no issues with the drive itself. So while I can
suggest buying a couple DM001, you don't leave
them "cold in the closet". Try them out, fill the
drive with files, and see if it's healthy afterwards.
As you will get pretty shabby warranty treatment if
you wait too long to return them. You don't even
need to clone an OS onto them, to do the file
test part. Just create one big partition in Disk
Management, and... start testing.

To make a test file (source), this would make a 10GB file
in your current working directory.

cd /d %userprofile%\Downloads

fsutil file createnew test01.bin 10000000000

Then, from File Explorer, copy the 10GB file from
your Downloads folder to your new E: drive or whatever.

You can adjust the fsutil size, as space dictates.

The Microsoft fsutil utility is a bit tricky, in
that it makes an empty file in no time at all.
This is the reason we need to "copy" the file,
and the copy operation converts the "sparse" test
file, into a "real" file on the E: drive. The "real"
copy step, takes "real" time to carry out, and that's
what we're using as a test mechanism. To copy the
10GB file, might take a minute on your Seagate.

There are other utilities that can be used to write
a test file on the new drive directly. But that's more
complicated. Whereas the "fsutil" command is a built-in
command in the OS.

Paul
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Old April 30th 18, 01:51 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Mark Twain
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I'm right along with you,...

I like Seagates,. and all my drives work great.
and are dead quiet. The one that failed just
happened to fall unfortunately.

I did think about just stockpiling the drives
themselves but since I lost my backup for the
8500 I want to replace it but afterwards I
think that's a good idea and still have my WD
HD configured for the 8500 used as my Mrimg
backup drive.

I have to re-read and think about the test you
talk about but no hurry.

Thanks,
Robert


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Old April 30th 18, 05:40 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Mark Twain
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I installed the new HD, man
those screws are had to put
in.

The inside was dusty as hell
so I cleaned it a little but
with a brush but I want to
take a vacuum to it. Is that
ok?

The 8500 seems to recognize the
HD

https://s31.postimg.cc/z26yds4gr/27_...re_cloning.jpg

but when I started to try and
clone it this is what I got.

https://s31.postimg.cc/9xkjdnjyz/27a...re_cloning.jpg

Did I install the drive wrong?
There was only the one connector.

Thoughts, suggestions?
Robert


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Old April 30th 18, 06:39 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Mark Twain
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Oh wait,... it doesn't recognize the HD!

So what did I do wrong? Should I have
attached a feed from the smaller blue
cable? I didn't see any?

Thoughts/Suggestions?
Robert

 




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