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Old May 13th 16, 06:24 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Alek
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Default 20 new updates!

I am reluctant to just install all 20 of the new "important" updates,
yet do not have the patience to visit each KB page and make a decision.

Is there a single place that has a summary of what each affects?

If I'm running 8.1, should I be installing upgrades meant for Windows
Server or other non-8.1 systems?

Thanks.
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Old May 13th 16, 06:58 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Good Guy[_2_]
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Default 20 new updates!

On 13/05/2016 18:24, Alek wrote:
I am reluctant to just install all 20 of the new "important" updates,
yet do not have the patience to visit each KB page and make a decision.

Is there a single place that has a summary of what each affects?

If I'm running 8.1, should I be installing upgrades meant for Windows
Server or other non-8.1 systems?

Thanks.



https://technet.microsoft.com/library/security/ms16-may.aspx



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Old May 13th 16, 10:43 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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Default 20 new updates!

Alek wrote:
I am reluctant to just install all 20 of the new "important" updates,
yet do not have the patience to visit each KB page and make a decision.

Is there a single place that has a summary of what each affects?

If I'm running 8.1, should I be installing upgrades meant for Windows
Server or other non-8.1 systems?

Thanks.


This is 2016.

Of course you read the description for each one.

If you didn't want to read the description, you
would have left it on "Full Auto", to tip over
your OS :-) Right ?

There are server and desktop OSes based on the same OS core.
When you see a reference to "desktop OS blah and Windows
Server blah", the reason the patch is issued for both,
is because portions of the code base are the same. The
server copy has additional features enabled by license,
which makes it the server edition (LargePages,
VSS redirection, etc). In some cases, if a security
article only happens to mention the server edition,
they wouldn't offer it to you unless it "fit" into
your desktop OS.

And depending on when the update showed up, sometimes
the update shows up before the description page for
the security patch goes live. You might have to wait
up to 12 hours for the description page to appear,
if there is no description page evident.

Paul
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Old May 13th 16, 11:59 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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Default 20 new updates!

On 05/13/2016 01:24 PM, Alek wrote:
I am reluctant to just install all 20 of the new "important" updates,
yet do not have the patience to visit each KB page and make a decision.

Is there a single place that has a summary of what each affects?

If I'm running 8.1, should I be installing upgrades meant for Windows
Server or other non-8.1 systems?

Thanks.

We just did our pc.s and other than the security updates and MS office,
the non descript "update for windows 8.1" were all harmless except the
first 2 or 3 that were "user experience update..." basically windows 10.

If your list shows like our 8.1 did then all you need to do is read
about 5 or so of these generic updates and see where they stop talking
about the user experience.


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Old May 14th 16, 12:41 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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Default 20 new updates!

On 13 May 2016, Alek wrote in
alt.comp.os.windows-8:

I am reluctant to just install all 20 of the new "important"
updates, yet do not have the patience to visit each KB page and
make a decision.

Is there a single place that has a summary of what each affects?

If I'm running 8.1, should I be installing upgrades meant for
Windows Server or other non-8.1 systems?


At this point, I am still assuming that anything labeled a "security"
update really is that. I expect I will get bitten by that someday, as
it's clear that MS's idea of "security" and "important" is self-serving
and quite different than anyone else's.

I don't think there is any practical way to determine whether an
"important" update really is that. We know for sure that MS adware has
been foisted on us disguised as "important" updates, so we can no
longer trust that label. I would avoid installing them until I had a
chance to read the description of each and every one. You can get along
just fine without them.
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Old May 14th 16, 01:37 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Paul
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Default 20 new updates!

Nil wrote:
On 13 May 2016, Alek wrote in
alt.comp.os.windows-8:

I am reluctant to just install all 20 of the new "important"
updates, yet do not have the patience to visit each KB page and
make a decision.

Is there a single place that has a summary of what each affects?

If I'm running 8.1, should I be installing upgrades meant for
Windows Server or other non-8.1 systems?


At this point, I am still assuming that anything labeled a "security"
update really is that. I expect I will get bitten by that someday, as
it's clear that MS's idea of "security" and "important" is self-serving
and quite different than anyone else's.

I don't think there is any practical way to determine whether an
"important" update really is that. We know for sure that MS adware has
been foisted on us disguised as "important" updates, so we can no
longer trust that label. I would avoid installing them until I had a
chance to read the description of each and every one. You can get along
just fine without them.


My word of warning would be, you should read each
article, to see if there is an "Issues" section.
Say, for example, an update promises to change
font rendering in the kernel, and the web page
describing the update mentions "Issues". You
want to check the info in there for details.
Can it stop the OS from booting ? Or, whatever.
Read the Issues section, if one is present.

When I installed Windows 7 SP1 (newly purchased)
last fall, I had to read all ~200 updates before
installing them. And separate out the ones that
did not belong. I still ended up with '583 on the
machine, but because I saw something "GWX" running
in Task Manager minutes later, I caught it and
gave it the boot. (I/m pretty sure I had unticked
583, but it installed anyway.) It's a lot of work
to review everything like this. When you read
200 update descriptions, there is only time for
skim reading, looking for an "Issues" section,
and so on.

Paul
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Old May 14th 16, 10:43 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Stan Brown
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Default 20 new updates!

On Fri, 13 May 2016 19:41:25 -0400, Nil wrote:
At this point, I am still assuming that anything labeled a "security"
update really is that.


But for two months we have _known_ that is not true.

http://www.askwoody.com/2016/ie-patc...en-a-security-
update-is-not-a-security-update/


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Old May 15th 16, 12:05 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Nil[_5_]
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Default 20 new updates!

On 14 May 2016, Stan Brown wrote in
alt.comp.os.windows-8:

On Fri, 13 May 2016 19:41:25 -0400, Nil wrote:
At this point, I am still assuming that anything labeled a
"security" update really is that.


But for two months we have _known_ that is not true.

http://www.askwoody.com/2016/ie-patc...curity-update/


Yeah, there's that. Despite the description, nobody has seen an
actual Windows 10 ad come from the IE update. But that's a good
example. It's inevitable. Microsoft's definition of "Security" has
to do with their financial security, not our computer security.
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Old May 15th 16, 12:00 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Stan Brown
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Default 20 new updates!

On Sat, 14 May 2016 19:05:29 -0400, Nil wrote:
Microsoft's definition of "Security" has
to do with their financial security, not our computer security.


Very well said!

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