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If the print driver on the computer supports the collection of data for
a printer/scanner, do I need a special print server or will any print server allow the bidirectional exchange of data from the print. ie data stream from the computer to the printer for the print job, and the data stream from the printer/scanner representing the page scanned to the printer. Thank I understand it is not quite a windows question but did not know any where else to ask. |
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On 17/01/2014 21:27, Keith Nuttle wrote:
If the print driver on the computer supports the collection of data for a printer/scanner, do I need a special print server or will any print server allow the bidirectional exchange of data from the print. ie data stream from the computer to the printer for the print job, and the data stream from the printer/scanner representing the page scanned to the printer. Thank I understand it is not quite a windows question but did not know any where else to ask. If you have installed the manufacturers driver for that printer/scanner then your computer should be able to do everything that device is supposed to do. You are not working in a network environment are you? |
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On 1/17/2014, Keith Nuttle posted:
If the print driver on the computer supports the collection of data for a printer/scanner, do I need a special print server or will any print server allow the bidirectional exchange of data from the print. ie data stream from the computer to the printer for the print job, and the data stream from the printer/scanner representing the page scanned to the printer. Thank I understand it is not quite a windows question but did not know any where else to ask. I find that I am unsure what your are asking, so I'll wing it :-) If you plan to scan from an all-in-one printer (which has other names from various makers, just to make it hard), you would do well to install the printer's *software* and run the scanner applications in order to scan. For instance, I have seen a program called ControlCenter4 used with a Brother all-in-one, another program called PaperPort for scanning with that printer as well, and a program called EPSON Scan for use with an Epson printer. That said, if the drivers for the device happen to include TWAIN drivers or WIA drivers[1], you could scan from more generic programs, such as IrfanView. In the IrfanView File menu, near the bottom you should see these two items: Select Scan/Twain Source Acquire/Batch Scanning which in their own way should let you do what I'm guessing you want. Caveat: If you need OCR, I don't think IrfanView is the right approach. The manufacturers' programs should provide what you need (unless you were unlucky in your choice of printer). I've been thinking of looking into third party (especially free) OCR software, just because at the moment I have a confusing situation due to printer problems, but I haven't gotten there yet, so I can't offer any more info :-) [1] The fact is they really must have TWAIN or WIA drivers even just to use their own software :-) -- Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch) |
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On 1/17/2014, Gene E. Bloch posted:
On 1/17/2014, Keith Nuttle posted: If the print driver on the computer supports the collection of data for a printer/scanner, do I need a special print server or will any print server allow the bidirectional exchange of data from the print. ie data stream from the computer to the printer for the print job, and the data stream from the printer/scanner representing the page scanned to the printer. Thank I understand it is not quite a windows question but did not know any where else to ask. I find that I am unsure what your are asking, so I'll wing it :-) If you plan to scan from an all-in-one printer (which has other names from various makers, just to make it hard), you would do well to install the printer's *software* and run the scanner applications in order to scan. For instance, I have seen a program called ControlCenter4 used with a Brother all-in-one, another program called PaperPort for scanning with that printer as well, and a program called EPSON Scan for use with an Epson printer. That said, if the drivers for the device happen to include TWAIN drivers or WIA drivers[1], you could scan from more generic programs, such as IrfanView. In the IrfanView File menu, near the bottom you should see these two items: Select Scan/Twain Source Acquire/Batch Scanning which in their own way should let you do what I'm guessing you want. Caveat: If you need OCR, I don't think IrfanView is the right approach. The manufacturers' programs should provide what you need (unless you were unlucky in your choice of printer). I've been thinking of looking into third party (especially free) OCR software, just because at the moment I have a confusing situation due to printer problems, but I haven't gotten there yet, so I can't offer any more info :-) [1] The fact is they really must have TWAIN or WIA drivers even just to use their own software :-) As I sent my reply, Good Guy's reply appeared. It is probably the better reply - it says what you need to know in far fewer words ;-) -- Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch) |
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On 1/17/2014 5:05 PM, Gene E. Bloch wrote:
On 1/17/2014, Keith Nuttle posted: If the print driver on the computer supports the collection of data for a printer/scanner, do I need a special print server or will any print server allow the bidirectional exchange of data from the print. ie data stream from the computer to the printer for the print job, and the data stream from the printer/scanner representing the page scanned to the printer. Thank I understand it is not quite a windows question but did not know any where else to ask. I find that I am unsure what your are asking, so I'll wing it :-) If you plan to scan from an all-in-one printer (which has other names from various makers, just to make it hard), you would do well to install the printer's *software* and run the scanner applications in order to scan. For instance, I have seen a program called ControlCenter4 used with a Brother all-in-one, another program called PaperPort for scanning with that printer as well, and a program called EPSON Scan for use with an Epson printer. That said, if the drivers for the device happen to include TWAIN drivers or WIA drivers[1], you could scan from more generic programs, such as IrfanView. In the IrfanView File menu, near the bottom you should see these two items: Select Scan/Twain Source Acquire/Batch Scanning which in their own way should let you do what I'm guessing you want. Caveat: If you need OCR, I don't think IrfanView is the right approach. The manufacturers' programs should provide what you need (unless you were unlucky in your choice of printer). I've been thinking of looking into third party (especially free) OCR software, just because at the moment I have a confusing situation due to printer problems, but I haven't gotten there yet, so I can't offer any more info :-) [1] The fact is they really must have TWAIN or WIA drivers even just to use their own software :-) My system is this. I have a wireless router that can accept wireless connections or hard wired connections. I have one computer hard wired to the Router. I also have my printer hard wired to the Router and can access though the printer through a wireless connections. My basic question was; Is bi direction a print server needed for operation of a scanner or printer/scanner assuming all of the drivers for the unit are on the computer either sending or receiving the data stream from the printer. OR is bidirectional a figment of my imagination and any print server will do the job. Irfanview: I use Irfanview for all of my image processing need. I use it to interface with my scanner. You mentioned OCR. While the basic Irfanview does not have OCR there is a plugin that will OCR your documents. If can be found from http://www.irfanview.com/ in the left column Plugins. It can be downloaded from http://www.irfanview.info/plugins/kadmos/ I would recommend you also download the the plug in file with multiple plug ins for Irfanview. While you are on the Irfanview site you should download the latest version which was recently release. |
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On 1/17/2014 10:10 PM, Keith Nuttle wrote:
On 1/17/2014 5:05 PM, Gene E. Bloch wrote: On 1/17/2014, Keith Nuttle posted: If the print driver on the computer supports the collection of data for a printer/scanner, do I need a special print server or will any print server allow the bidirectional exchange of data from the print. ie data stream from the computer to the printer for the print job, and the data stream from the printer/scanner representing the page scanned to the printer. Thank I understand it is not quite a windows question but did not know any where else to ask. I find that I am unsure what your are asking, so I'll wing it :-) If you plan to scan from an all-in-one printer (which has other names from various makers, just to make it hard), you would do well to install the printer's *software* and run the scanner applications in order to scan. For instance, I have seen a program called ControlCenter4 used with a Brother all-in-one, another program called PaperPort for scanning with that printer as well, and a program called EPSON Scan for use with an Epson printer. That said, if the drivers for the device happen to include TWAIN drivers or WIA drivers[1], you could scan from more generic programs, such as IrfanView. In the IrfanView File menu, near the bottom you should see these two items: Select Scan/Twain Source Acquire/Batch Scanning which in their own way should let you do what I'm guessing you want. Caveat: If you need OCR, I don't think IrfanView is the right approach. The manufacturers' programs should provide what you need (unless you were unlucky in your choice of printer). I've been thinking of looking into third party (especially free) OCR software, just because at the moment I have a confusing situation due to printer problems, but I haven't gotten there yet, so I can't offer any more info :-) [1] The fact is they really must have TWAIN or WIA drivers even just to use their own software :-) My system is this. I have a wireless router that can accept wireless connections or hard wired connections. I have one computer hard wired to the Router. I also have my printer hard wired to the Router and can access though the printer through a wireless connections. My basic question was; Is bi direction a print server needed for operation of a scanner or printer/scanner assuming all of the drivers for the unit are on the computer either sending or receiving the data stream from the printer. OR is bidirectional a figment of my imagination and any print server will do the job. Irfanview: I use Irfanview for all of my image processing need. I use it to interface with my scanner. You mentioned OCR. While the basic Irfanview does not have OCR there is a plugin that will OCR your documents. If can be found from http://www.irfanview.com/ in the left column Plugins. It can be downloaded from http://www.irfanview.info/plugins/kadmos/ I would recommend you also download the the plug in file with multiple plug ins for Irfanview. While you are on the Irfanview site you should download the latest version which was recently release. My Epson printer, a Workforce 635 all in one, is networked via a switch and router. Viewscan uses the Epson scanner drivers, as does Epson's software and windows 7 & 8. WIA can also be used. You can load the scanner paper feeder, and scan to any networked PC with the full Epson software package installed. Th printer also has the usual USB ports for printing and so forth, along with WiFi. You can use one of the three at a time. It's usually better to use the Ethernet port. |
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On 1/17/2014, Keith Nuttle posted:
On 1/17/2014 5:05 PM, Gene E. Bloch wrote: On 1/17/2014, Keith Nuttle posted: If the print driver on the computer supports the collection of data for a printer/scanner, do I need a special print server or will any print server allow the bidirectional exchange of data from the print. ie data stream from the computer to the printer for the print job, and the data stream from the printer/scanner representing the page scanned to the printer. Thank I understand it is not quite a windows question but did not know any where else to ask. I find that I am unsure what your are asking, so I'll wing it :-) If you plan to scan from an all-in-one printer (which has other names from various makers, just to make it hard), you would do well to install the printer's *software* and run the scanner applications in order to scan. For instance, I have seen a program called ControlCenter4 used with a Brother all-in-one, another program called PaperPort for scanning with that printer as well, and a program called EPSON Scan for use with an Epson printer. That said, if the drivers for the device happen to include TWAIN drivers or WIA drivers[1], you could scan from more generic programs, such as IrfanView. In the IrfanView File menu, near the bottom you should see these two items: Select Scan/Twain Source Acquire/Batch Scanning which in their own way should let you do what I'm guessing you want. Caveat: If you need OCR, I don't think IrfanView is the right approach. The manufacturers' programs should provide what you need (unless you were unlucky in your choice of printer). I've been thinking of looking into third party (especially free) OCR software, just because at the moment I have a confusing situation due to printer problems, but I haven't gotten there yet, so I can't offer any more info :-) [1] The fact is they really must have TWAIN or WIA drivers even just to use their own software :-) My system is this. I have a wireless router that can accept wireless connections or hard wired connections. I have one computer hard wired to the Router. I also have my printer hard wired to the Router and can access though the printer through a wireless connections. My basic question was; Is bi direction a print server needed for operation of a scanner or printer/scanner assuming all of the drivers for the unit are on the computer either sending or receiving the data stream from the printer. OR is bidirectional a figment of my imagination and any print server will do the job. Irfanview: I use Irfanview for all of my image processing need. I use it to interface with my scanner. You mentioned OCR. While the basic Irfanview does not have OCR there is a plugin that will OCR your documents. If can be found from http://www.irfanview.com/ in the left column Plugins. It can be downloaded from http://www.irfanview.info/plugins/kadmos/ I would recommend you also download the the plug in file with multiple plug ins for Irfanview. While you are on the Irfanview site you should download the latest version which was recently release. Thanks. Kadmos is separate from the other plugins, so I wasn't aware of it and it wasn't present here. It is downloading slowly as we speak (I upgraded IrfanView from 4.35 to 4.37 first). It finished as I typed, so I'll try it now. -- Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch) |
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On 1/18/2014, Gene E. Bloch posted:
On 1/17/2014, Keith Nuttle posted: On 1/17/2014 5:05 PM, Gene E. Bloch wrote: On 1/17/2014, Keith Nuttle posted: If the print driver on the computer supports the collection of data for a printer/scanner, do I need a special print server or will any print server allow the bidirectional exchange of data from the print. ie data stream from the computer to the printer for the print job, and the data stream from the printer/scanner representing the page scanned to the printer. Thank I understand it is not quite a windows question but did not know any where else to ask. I find that I am unsure what your are asking, so I'll wing it :-) If you plan to scan from an all-in-one printer (which has other names from various makers, just to make it hard), you would do well to install the printer's *software* and run the scanner applications in order to scan. For instance, I have seen a program called ControlCenter4 used with a Brother all-in-one, another program called PaperPort for scanning with that printer as well, and a program called EPSON Scan for use with an Epson printer. That said, if the drivers for the device happen to include TWAIN drivers or WIA drivers[1], you could scan from more generic programs, such as IrfanView. In the IrfanView File menu, near the bottom you should see these two items: Select Scan/Twain Source Acquire/Batch Scanning which in their own way should let you do what I'm guessing you want. Caveat: If you need OCR, I don't think IrfanView is the right approach. The manufacturers' programs should provide what you need (unless you were unlucky in your choice of printer). I've been thinking of looking into third party (especially free) OCR software, just because at the moment I have a confusing situation due to printer problems, but I haven't gotten there yet, so I can't offer any more info :-) [1] The fact is they really must have TWAIN or WIA drivers even just to use their own software :-) My system is this. I have a wireless router that can accept wireless connections or hard wired connections. I have one computer hard wired to the Router. I also have my printer hard wired to the Router and can access though the printer through a wireless connections. My basic question was; Is bi direction a print server needed for operation of a scanner or printer/scanner assuming all of the drivers for the unit are on the computer either sending or receiving the data stream from the printer. OR is bidirectional a figment of my imagination and any print server will do the job. Irfanview: I use Irfanview for all of my image processing need. I use it to interface with my scanner. You mentioned OCR. While the basic Irfanview does not have OCR there is a plugin that will OCR your documents. If can be found from http://www.irfanview.com/ in the left column Plugins. It can be downloaded from http://www.irfanview.info/plugins/kadmos/ I would recommend you also download the the plug in file with multiple plug ins for Irfanview. While you are on the Irfanview site you should download the latest version which was recently release. Thanks. Kadmos is separate from the other plugins, so I wasn't aware of it and it wasn't present here. It is downloading slowly as we speak (I upgraded IrfanView from 4.35 to 4.37 first). It finished as I typed, so I'll try it now. Hmm. I think I'll stay with the software provided by the printer manufacturers :-) 1. Each OCR program is well integrated into the corresponding scanner softwa a click or two to scan and perform OCR on the entire page, a click or two per page to accumulate pages, & a click or two to save as a searchable PDF. 2. Much better character recognition. Of course, those are not free programs. Also, I definitely will keep Kadmos on hand, since it is not by any means useless. -- Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch) |
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