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when task manager is running in the system tray bug
If task manager is running in the system tray and I eject a thumb or
partable drive windows won't release the drive. Windows 10 X64 |
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when task manager is running in the system tray bug
Black Baptist wrote:
If task manager is running in the system tray and I eject a thumb or partable drive windows won't release the drive. Windows 10 X64 I do not see the problem. What do you mean by "windows won't release the drive"? And how is that a problem? |
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when task manager is running in the system tray bug
John Doe wrote:
Black Baptist wrote: If task manager is running in the system tray and I eject a thumb or partable drive windows won't release the drive. Windows 10 X64 I do not see the problem. What do you mean by "windows won't release the drive"? And how is that a problem? And by the way... How can you eject a thumb drive? Does it shoot out of the USB port? |
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when task manager is running in the system tray bug
John Doe wrote:
John Doe wrote: Black Baptist wrote: If task manager is running in the system tray and I eject a thumb or partable drive windows won't release the drive. Windows 10 X64 I do not see the problem. What do you mean by "windows won't release the drive"? And how is that a problem? And by the way... How can you eject a thumb drive? Does it shoot out of the USB port? In the Notification area, is a "Safely Remove" icon for USB flash sticks. It can dismount all the partitions on a plugged-in device, which causes the OS to do the equivalent of flush() and sync(), so that no cache on the OS has any of your files. On some Windows OSes, the Safely Remove operation causes the LED to go out on the USB flash stick. Which is an indication there is a state change. It is then safe to remove/unplug the stick. If you look at the Safely Remove icon and its built-in menu, even SATA drives, the drive containing C: will be listed. This happens if the controller port is in AHCI mode, and supports HotPlug. However, as soon as files like "pagefile.sys" indicate they are busy, the attempt to eject C: will fail. You cannot Safely Remove C: because of the busy files on it. As for why the Task Manager would actually have a handle on a data disk, that's a mystery. There is a thing called NTFS TXF (transaction oriented NTFS, which supports atomic file operations), and it causes data disks to remain busy. You might find a handle owned by "System, PID 4" for example, and attempts to get a program name lead no-where. In such a case, you cannot correlate what end-user software is using TXF, and figure out why some media cannot be unmounted. The Sysinternals handle.exe program, can give details on things with open handles. But in tough cases, only using Disk Management and putting a disk in "Offline" state, will cause it to be released. If it won't respond to Offline either, then there might well be an identifiable handle and source program doing it. Using handle.exe, or using Process Explorer (sysinternals.com) and the handle facility built into it, you can check whether there is an easy answer or not. Taskeng has no reason itself, to be examining any files. There's no guarantee Handle.exe will be allowed to tell you stuff about Taskeng. My lesson with TXF tells me that certain "features" of the OS, cannot be debugged by mere end-users. Paul |
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when task manager is running in the system tray bug
"James Wilkinson Sword" wrote:
Paul wrote: John Doe wrote: John Doe wrote: Black Baptist wrote: If task manager is running in the system tray and I eject a thumb or partable drive windows won't release the drive. Windows 10 X64 I do not see the problem. What do you mean by "windows won't release the drive"? And how is that a problem? And by the way... How can you eject a thumb drive? Does it shoot out of the USB port? In the Notification area, is a "Safely Remove" icon for USB flash sticks. I don't bother with that. You had to do it with XP (as it delayed writing), but with later Windowses, just wait still it stops flashing, then pull it out. I have had no problem removing a flash drive since Windows XP. Not sure if ever, really. I do wait until my operation is completed. Otherwise, nowadays it is no concern. I too pay attention to the flashing light, in addition to making sure I am not doing anything with the thumb drive. If it is booting, that is a good time to pay attention to the light. But if it is just being used for data, knowing that the operation has completed seems to be plenty. Occasionally I have looked at the system/notification tray icon, for what it is worth. Nowadays, the OS probably takes care of it for us. It certainly should. |
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