So am I now registered?

So as you may or may not know, I've been having a helluva time upgrading
my Windows 7 Ultimate desktop into a Windows 10 Pro. I have an SSD, and
I ran out of space on it, so I followed a well-respected early procedure
for how to move your Users folder over to another drive, without
affecting your Windows setup. It involves using a directory junction to
replace the old location and point it towards the new location. Well, it
turns out that this is specifically one of the things not supported by
the Windows 10 upgrade now. It will prevent you from upgrading.

Long story short, I have a lot of backups made (both images and
file/folder backups), and so I was able to break a few links and then
was able to do the Windows 10 upgrade that way. So I assume that now
that I've done the upgrade, that I am now safe restore the Windows 7
from backups, and that I can go back to Windows 10 at anytime in the
future, even after the free upgrade period is over? Obviously without
making too many hardware changes of course.

Yousuf Khan

"Yousuf Khan" wrote in message
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So as you may or may not know, I've been having a helluva time upgrading
my Windows 7 Ultimate desktop into a Windows 10 Pro. I have an SSD, and I
ran out of space on it, so I followed a well-respected early procedure for
how to move your Users folder over to another drive, without affecting
your Windows setup. It involves using a directory junction to replace the
old location and point it towards the new location. Well, it turns out
that this is specifically one of the things not supported by the Windows
10 upgrade now. It will prevent you from upgrading.

Long story short, I have a lot of backups made (both images and
file/folder backups), and so I was able to break a few links and then was
able to do the Windows 10 upgrade that way. So I assume that now that I've
done the upgrade, that I am now safe restore the Windows 7 from backups,
and that I can go back to Windows 10 at anytime in the future, even after
the free upgrade period is over? Obviously without making too many
hardware changes of course.

Yousuf Khan

That's not my experience.

On replacing a motherboard the Windows 10 entitlement was lost.
Reinstalling W7 Pro on a 40GB partition & immediately moving the Downloads,
Documents folders (using Properties/Location tab) & creating a new
Programmes folder on a second partition did not prevent W10 upgrading
successfully.

Regards
wasbit

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On 10/05/2016 12:08 PM, Yousuf Khan wrote:
... turns out that this is specifically one of the things
not supported by the Windows 10 upgrade now.
It will prevent you from upgrading.

It's been like that since Windows 8!


Long story short, I have a lot of backups made (both images and
file/folder backups), and so I was able to break a few links and then
was able to do the Windows 10 upgrade that way.

Never copy the junction points! And you better backup both C:\Users and
C:\ProgramData!

... that I am now safe restore the Windows 7
from backups, and that I can go back to Windows 10 at anytime in the
future, even after the free upgrade period is over? Obviously without
making too many hardware changes of course.

You better do a clean install of Win 10 version1511 using the Win 7
product key. Format the SSD completely when installing. That way you
would have a really clean system.

Again, backup all things that smelled like your data in all partitions
of the SSD.

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Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:


Never copy the junction points! And you better backup both C:\Users and
C:\ProgramData!

I do not recommend this form of "file-by-file" backup.

Use a proper backup program, and let it take care
of the details.

If you have OS on C: and Users on D:, just
back up C: and D: . It only takes seconds
to set up the backup, and then you can ignore
it as the backup program does all the work.

Slaving over some script with XXcopy stuff
that keeps breaking, is no way to maintain
a computer.

Paul

On 10/05/2016 7:46 AM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
On 10/05/2016 12:08 PM, Yousuf Khan wrote:
... turns out that this is specifically one of the things
not supported by the Windows 10 upgrade now.
It will prevent you from upgrading.

It's been like that since Windows 8!

Yup, but I could care less about Windows 8, much the same as most other
people.

Long story short, I have a lot of backups made (both images and
file/folder backups), and so I was able to break a few links and then
was able to do the Windows 10 upgrade that way.

Never copy the junction points! And you better backup both C:\Users and
C:\ProgramData!

Under Windows 7, my Users was actually on D drive by now, with a
junction point pointing to it on C drive. ProgramData remained on C drive.

Good point about backing up ProgramData. It was being backed up by the
imaging procedure, but that runs only once weekly, whereas the Users is
backed up daily. So I'll add the ProgramData to same daily backup as the
Users.

... that I am now safe restore the Windows 7
from backups, and that I can go back to Windows 10 at anytime in the
future, even after the free upgrade period is over? Obviously without
making too many hardware changes of course.

You better do a clean install of Win 10 version1511 using the Win 7
product key. Format the SSD completely when installing. That way you
would have a really clean system.

I attempted that too, but it never accepted my Win 7 product key. It
only accepted it during an upgrade. Well during the upgrade, it never
even asked for the key, of course, so it's an implied acceptance.

Although now that I have finally done a successful upgrade, now clean
installs are also available to me. However, I got too much **** to
reinstall everything after a clean install.

Yousuf Khan

On 10/05/2016 5:01 AM, wasbit wrote:
That's not my experience.

On replacing a motherboard the Windows 10 entitlement was lost.
Reinstalling W7 Pro on a 40GB partition & immediately moving the
Downloads, Documents folders (using Properties/Location tab) & creating
a new Programmes folder on a second partition did not prevent W10
upgrading successfully.

In my case, I didn't just move the Downloads and Documents folders, I
moved the entire Users folder to another drive, with all users aboard.
Then I re-linked the Users folder to the C drive using a directory
junction. The directory junction made everything look like it was still
on the C drive.

This was a very clever way to fool Windows into accepting a new folder
location during the Windows 7 era, but for some reason Microsoft stopped
allowing this with Windows 8 and above.

Yousuf Khan

On 10/05/2016 9:30 AM, Paul wrote:
Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:


Never copy the junction points! And you better backup both C:\Users
and C:\ProgramData!

I do not recommend this form of "file-by-file" backup.

Use a proper backup program, and let it take care
of the details.

If you have OS on C: and Users on D:, just
back up C: and D: . It only takes seconds
to set up the backup, and then you can ignore
it as the backup program does all the work.

Slaving over some script with XXcopy stuff
that keeps breaking, is no way to maintain
a computer.

In my case, it is a proper backup program, Macrium.

Yousuf Khan

Yousuf Khan wrote:
On 10/05/2016 9:30 AM, Paul wrote:
Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:


Never copy the junction points! And you better backup both C:\Users
and C:\ProgramData!

I do not recommend this form of "file-by-file" backup.

Use a proper backup program, and let it take care
of the details.

If you have OS on C: and Users on D:, just
back up C: and D: . It only takes seconds
to set up the backup, and then you can ignore
it as the backup program does all the work.

Slaving over some script with XXcopy stuff
that keeps breaking, is no way to maintain
a computer.

In my case, it is a proper backup program, Macrium.

Yousuf Khan



One reason to do non-image backups in addition to images is to allow access
by iPads which cannot read images. Also secure NAS access of backups over
the internet while traveling using an iPad can be very helpful.

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On 10/05/2016 05:08, Yousuf Khan wrote:
So as you may or may not know, I've been having a helluva time upgrading
my Windows 7 Ultimate desktop into a Windows 10 Pro. I have an SSD, and
I ran out of space on it, so I followed a well-respected early procedure
for how to move your Users folder over to another drive, without
affecting your Windows setup. It involves using a directory junction to
replace the old location and point it towards the new location. Well, it
turns out that this is specifically one of the things not supported by
the Windows 10 upgrade now. It will prevent you from upgrading.

Long story short, I have a lot of backups made (both images and
file/folder backups), and so I was able to break a few links and then
was able to do the Windows 10 upgrade that way. So I assume that now
that I've done the upgrade, that I am now safe restore the Windows 7
from backups, and that I can go back to Windows 10 at anytime in the
future, even after the free upgrade period is over? Obviously without
making too many hardware changes of course.

Yousuf Khan

It seems to me that nobody is answering your question.

It sounds like you want to restore your comlpete Windows 7 and carry on
using that for the time being while having claimed your free Windows 10
upgrade for possible use on this hardware at a later date.

Yes, I think what you have done will work but obviously nobody knows for
sure until after July 29th.

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On 05/10/2016 12:08 AM, Yousuf Khan wrote:
So as you may or may not know, I've been having a helluva time upgrading
my Windows 7 Ultimate desktop into a Windows 10 Pro. I have an SSD, and
I ran out of space on it, so I followed a well-respected early procedure
for how to move your Users folder over to another drive, without
affecting your Windows setup. It involves using a directory junction to
replace the old location and point it towards the new location. Well, it
turns out that this is specifically one of the things not supported by
the Windows 10 upgrade now. It will prevent you from upgrading.

Long story short, I have a lot of backups made (both images and
file/folder backups), and so I was able to break a few links and then
was able to do the Windows 10 upgrade that way. So I assume that now
that I've done the upgrade, that I am now safe restore the Windows 7
from backups, and that I can go back to Windows 10 at anytime in the
future, even after the free upgrade period is over? Obviously without
making too many hardware changes of course.

Yousuf Khan
How to Geek newsletter or website just recently had an article about
getting windows 10 after the 1 year runs out. And basically they say
just what you did. Get your system up to windows 10 before the
deadline then put windows 7 back. But just make sure your windows 10
is activated by going into the settings and look at activation. If
you're activated, then you got the entitlement and as long as no major
changes are made to your hardware you can reload 10 any time.

http://www.howtogeek.com/253901/get-...ttle-prep-now/

On Wed, 11 May 2016 09:24:12 -0400, Big Al wrote:
How to Geek newsletter or website just recently had an article about
getting windows 10 after the 1 year runs out. And basically they say
just what you did. Get your system up to windows 10 before the
deadline then put windows 7 back.


Or don't.

People worrying about "missing out" on Windows 10 are the spiritual
descendants of 18th-century French aristos worrying about missing out
on the guillotine.

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On 10/05/2016 1:50 PM, Brian Gregory wrote:
It seems to me that nobody is answering your question.

It sounds like you want to restore your comlpete Windows 7 and carry on
using that for the time being while having claimed your free Windows 10
upgrade for possible use on this hardware at a later date.

Yes, I think what you have done will work but obviously nobody knows for
sure until after July 29th.

Yes, you're absolutely right, that was my question. Thanks, even if you
didn't have a definitive answer, you at least understood the question
properly.

Yousuf Khan

On 11/05/2016 9:24 AM, Big Al wrote:
How to Geek newsletter or website just recently had an article about
getting windows 10 after the 1 year runs out. And basically they say
just what you did. Get your system up to windows 10 before the
deadline then put windows 7 back. But just make sure your windows 10
is activated by going into the settings and look at activation. If
you're activated, then you got the entitlement and as long as no major
changes are made to your hardware you can reload 10 any time.

http://www.howtogeek.com/253901/get-...ttle-prep-now/

Yeah, but some of the problem resulted from following a previous How To
Geek newsletter. They said that it will accept my Windows 7 activation
key, but it never did.

How to do a Clean Install of Windows 10, the Easy Way
http://www.howtogeek.com/224342/how-...ll-windows-10/

So How To Geek is a bit suspect in my mind.

Yousuf Khan

On 17/05/2016 18:16, Yousuf Khan wrote:

Yeah, but some of the problem resulted from following a previous How
To Geek newsletter. They said that it will accept my Windows 7
activation key, but it never did.



People have already pointed out that you are a very stupid person. First
you are reading a very old article; Second, you are using a very old
ISO; Third, you are not able to read these posts carefully and follow
them strictly; Fourth, you are committed jihadist. Now with all this
in your character, there is nothing anybody here can do to help you or
to reform you to be a better Muslim.




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