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What's a good free Windows video editor that crops out data in the MP4 video frame? (now software selection in general - and getting OT philosophical)
In article , J. P. Gilliver
(John) wrote: Nospam has a huge bias for Apple products, where he *thinks* (erroneously) that I have a bias against them - but I actually don't. I just *understand* them for what they are, and more importantly, I understand that Apple isn't in the business of making the best products - they're in the business of making the most money off their customers - which they do very well. Not _entirely_; they also want to keep tight control of things, so that any one thing their users do doesn't break things for that user. I personally don't like being subject to such control (Windows seems to be going the same way), but I do see the advantages - for both Apple and a (large?) proportion of their users. not quite. apple has defaults that work best for most people, but those can easily be overridden if one prefers. I _do_ also find their products vastly overpriced, even allowing for the - probably not insignificant - costs of maintaining the environment as I've just described. nope. prices of apple products are competitive with other products of similar specs, often less expensive. As an avowed freeware and freedom junkie, Apple's business and technical models are the antithesis of mine. However, I use Apple products in the schools that I teach at, and I give Apple phones as gifts, and I've That's an interesting one - why do you? You can get an Android 'phone of similar or better technical spec. for a lot less than any given iPhone; nope. priced of android phones and iphones with similar specs are about the same, and sometimes an iphone costs *less*. for example, the very popular galaxy s8 is $724/Ł689: https://www.samsung.com/us/explore/galaxy-s8/buy/ http://www.samsung.com/uk/smartphones/galaxy-s8/ the larger galaxy note 8 starts at $929/Ł869: https://www.samsung.com/us/galaxy/note8/buy/ http://www.samsung.com/uk/smartphones/galaxy-note8/ compare to the iphone 8 and 8+, at $699/Ł699 and $799/Ł799. https://www.apple.com/shop/buy-iphone/iphone-8 https://www.apple.com/uk/shop/buy-iphone/iphone-8 the google pixel 2 and 2xl are $649 and $849: https://store.google.com/us/config/pixel_2?hl=en-US andy rubin, who created android, just released the essential, at $699, with an add-on 360 degree camera for an additional $179: https://shop.essential.com/products/phone there are even higher priced android phones, such as the red hydrogen, for $1200 or $1600, depending on aluminum or titanium. http://www.red.com/hydrogen there are certainly phones that cost less than all of those, but that's because they have lesser specs. for instance, the least expensive iphone is the iphone se for $349/Ł349. it's not as capable as an iphone 8, which is why it costs less. |
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What's a good free Windows video editor that crops out data in the MP4 video frame? (now software selection in general)
On Oct 12, 2017, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote
(in article ): Le Snip I'm glad you didn't mind my little dig (-:. [My name's John by the way.] That’s great! *harry newton* is known to many of us the nymshifting, cross posting, insulting troll also known as, *Aardvark*, *AArdvarks*, *Tomos Davies*, *Chaya Eve*, *Roy Tremblay*, *Blake Snyder*, *Lionel Muller*, *Stijn De Jong*, *John Harmon*, *Martin Chuzzlewit II*, *Raymond Spruance III*, *Algeria Horan*, *Horace Algier*, *Karl Schultz*, *Conradt*, *Henning Schröder*, *Liam O’Connor*, *Alphonse Arnaud*, *Danny DiAmico*, *VinnyP*, *Juan Camilo Blanco*, and many more. So you can anticipate his reappearance soon, clad in a fresh sock. The only reason I am even seeing your post is the change you made to the subject line. -- Regards, Savageduck |
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What's a good free Windows video editor that crops out data in the MP4 video frame?
On Thu, 12 Oct 2017 09:29:05 +0000 (UTC), harry newton
wrote: He who is Char Jackson said on Wed, 11 Oct 2017 23:48:33 -0500: I must agree with both JP Gilliver and nospam that there are many people who make emotional decisions where they no longer can look objectively at the problem set. I wonder if Gvim text editor would be an example of that. ;-) Naw, probably not. I smiled with pleasure when I saw your note because you understood that I am extremely efficient at typing with gvim (which I'm using at this very moment to type my Usenet posts). I had an opportunity to use vi yesterday and it immediately became clear (again) why it has fallen to the wayside over the past 40 years. It used to be the king of the hill in text editors, probably along with EMACS, but I don't see anyone using it these days. That's just my personal observation and not a declaration of the state of the IT world. In fact, the last time I directly observed someone using it was possibly 10-15 years ago. Still, it exists everywhere, so more power to you for helping to keep it alive. I'm sorry I can't join you in that endeavor. -- Char Jackson |
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What's a good free Windows video editor that crops out data in the MP4 video frame?
On Thu, 12 Oct 2017 09:54:41 +0000 (UTC), harry newton
wrote: You [John] don't seem to appreciate the efficiency of vi, but I do. It just means we place different values on different things. As long as you accept that the efficiency of which you speak comes as a result of familiarity, not anything inherently efficient about the product. If you look at it objectively, it's among the least efficient tools, wouldn't you agree? -- Char Jackson |
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What's a good free Windows video editor that crops out data in the MP4 video frame?
On Thu, 12 Oct 2017 10:32:01 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
wrote: In message , Char Jackson writes: On Thu, 12 Oct 2017 01:36:53 +0000 (UTC), harry newton wrote: He who is nospam said on Wed, 11 Oct 2017 16:31:18 -0400: One factor is overcoming familiarity-prejudice, too - some people (probably most of us; I know I'm guilty) think the "best" is the one they've been using for years, if not decades, and they overcome the shortcomings (inefficiencies, but not just those) by habit that's so ingrained they don't realise they're doing it. true. another effect is that if another system does what they want, but in a slightly different way, it's automatically worse, even if it's objectively simpler and more effective. I must agree with both JP Gilliver and nospam that there are many people who make emotional decisions where they no longer can look objectively at the problem set. I wonder if Gvim text editor would be an example of that. ;-) Naw, probably not. What do you think prompted me to write the first paragraph above (-:? (To which nospam's contribution is a worthy addition.) Thanks, John. I'm quite aware of what you were doing, but I didn't want to be _too_ obvious or obnoxious. :-) -- Char Jackson |
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What's a good free Windows video editor that crops out data in the MP4 video frame? (now software selection in general - and getting OT philosophical)
"harry newton" wrote in message
news MacArthur was sure of his point and he conveniently ignored the complexities (which he was forced to admit and which was proven in the subsequent congressional hearings). MacArthur took what I'm calling the childish side of the argument. It's the same side that the iOS apologists *always* take. It's the same side the gun control advocates *always* take. It's the same side the abortion-restriction advocates *always* take. it's the same side the global-warming alarmists *always* take. Gun control is probably one issue where US and UK will always have different views. I suppose having been brought up in trouble-free, relatively crime-free areas of the UK, I have never felt the *need* for a gun - or even a knife. I suppose I tend to think of *not* having a gun as the default state, and you need to make a damn good case to have or use one. To live in such fear of being attacked that you accidentally kill your loved ones (as in the case of Oscar Pistorius in South Africa) must be hell. I freely admit that this is a one-side view. At least I can see that not everyone will feel that way, firstly in the US where there's a culture of owning guns (it's even in your Constitution - the Right to Bear Arms), and secondly if you live in an area where crime and attack from housebreakers is likely. The nearest I've got to organised violence is when I was at university in Bristol in the 1980s and I once took a wrong turning and ended up in the St Pauls district which had been in the news a few weeks earlier when there had been inner-city violence in many cities. To see burned-out cars, fragments of bricks stren across the streets, broken windows and areas scorched by petrol bombs is quite a shock when only a mile or so away was the peaceful suburb where my hall of residence was and the peaceful roads that I walked between there to university. And yet even in that area, someone tried to mug me. I was *very* lucky that I managed to catch the guy off guard and somehow miraculously managed to throw him to the ground, and someone came along to help me just as he was getting up again, so he ran off. Thankfully he was relying on surprise and strength, rather than being armed with a knife or a gun. Thank goodness I live in an environment where weapons like that are rare - and that I know which areas (most cities have them) to avoid at night. I've often thought that Britain's self-defence laws should be strengthened, to put the onus much more on an "invader" to someone's property/back yard to prove that they had an innocent reason to be there, rather than punishing people who attack an "invader" because they are in fear of their lives. The guidance is too vague and there are too many cases of people who are fed up to their back teeth of being repeatedly broke into getting prosecuted for fighting off attackers by using "too much force". I'm of the opinion that if you are being attacked you hit as hard as you possibly can to avoid being attacked again (and to send a message to anyone else) and then walk away. There are those who continue to attack even after their assailant is incapacitated and no longer a threat, out of revenge and retaliation, and that is probably crossing the line. |
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What's a good free Windows video editor that crops out data in the MP4 video frame? (now software selection in general - and getting OT philosophical)
In message , harry newton
writes: He who is J. P. Gilliver (John) said on Thu, 12 Oct 2017 12:22:33 +0100: That's an interesting one - why do you? You can get an Android 'phone of similar or better technical spec. for a lot less than any given iPhone; I presume that you are giving them to people who you know need the closed and safe environment already discussed. I have kids. I have grandkids. I have sisters. I have brothers. All of whom have kids and grandkids galore. Half of them (mostly the girls) *love* Apple products (especially the pretty colors!). The other half (mostly the boys) use Android like they would use a drill or a hammer. It's a tool to get a job done. Pretty colors aren't meaningful to them. Two different mentalities completely. If you don't read this thread, you may *never* understand their mentality: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.ipad/-T7FEXIdU9Q/Dhy-LFH3AwAJ I don't have time; this thread is consuming far too much. When I said "why do you", I meant specifically why do you give iPhones to your family. For the price of an iPhone, you could get an Android one, with ten pretty coloured cases, and still have a lot of change left over. So I presume they love Apple products for more than just the colours, and that you understand why. [] Enabled _you_ to, yes. You maybe are forgetting your "muscle memory". If there is one thing that should be obvious by now, it's that I talk, think and type accurately and fast and voluminously. I don't know you (and you seem to want to keep it that way) to know how you talk; I think I can see how you think; your typing is pretty accurate (spelling and grammar); and it's certainly voluminous. But I don't think the fact that mine is (only slightly!) less voluminous than yours has anything to do with the editor I'm using (which currently is the one in my news client); I take time to think, so that works. (In other words, I can type more than fast enough to keep up with my thinking - and that probably applies whatever editor I'd be using.) [] This is likely my *last* post to this thread, as I don't like going off [I thought the last one was ... (-:] [bit just slagging off others (and urging me to read other threads, which I'm sure are long and boring) deleted] Yes, for militias, not individuals, I think. (I'm in the UK, where there have been recent years where the number of people shot dead by the police _nationally_ have been in single figures - I think some years zero. I present that just for interest, not saying it's better than the US situation!) You have to understand something you don't seem to understand when you mention that "militias" are your fundamental tipping point. I don't mean that as an insult, but I will be blunt with you in the interest of brevity. Nope - I was just raising that as the nominal counter to the nominal point about "it's in the constitution" that gets raised by the other side. I never said the arguments are simple. [] It's like what MacArthur was arguing around Thanksgiving at the Chosin Reservoir versus what Truman was dealing with in the coalition. Remember, I'm in the UK; I've vaguely heard of MacArthur and Truman (weren't they generals and/or presidents? I know Truman was a president), but I have no idea what the Chosin Reservoir represents, at Thanksgiving or any other time. [] It's the same side that the iOS apologists *always* take. It's the same side the gun control advocates *always* take. It's the same side the abortion-restriction advocates *always* take. it's the same side the global-warming alarmists *always* take. etc. Am I to assume then that you're anti-iOS, pro-gun, pro-abortion, and anti-warming? The middle two together are unusual, though not impossible. [] Ooh, you're on hot coals there! (You're also not considering the argument about when it becomes a sentient entity - I won't use the emotive word "baby" - which argument also requires consideration.) Again. There is no argument *anyone* can ever make on abortion that I haven't heard, understood, and thought about. Not one. I don't know if you know them all, but there is *never* going to be progress on the abortion issue when there will *always* be two sides to the argument. Especially when there are _more_ than two sides (e. g. foetus' rights, women's rights, and the libertarian view). [] Just like Apple is *very clever* at manipulating public opinion, in the case of the gay-rights debate, what you'd think is the childish side of the argument is actually the (very cleverly hidden) more refined side of the argument. It's sheer genius actually. However, very few people will *understand* anything I'm saying, and I'm finding it increasingly difficult, certainly. even if they could, Usenet isn't the place for it (neither is email) since there is an intense amount of detail in my suppositions. Mine too. I dislike any view that says there are only two sides to a debate (such as one of the Bushes saying "if you're not with us, you're against us": such a view is likely to push me towards being against, even if my inclination before it was said was to be with). Some day I would hope to write a book along the lines of The Naked Ape or Guns, Germs, and Steel, where I "explain" to the masses what actually is happening. Then do so! It will join all the others, of course. (My mum rather liked The Naked Ape; I found it rather glib/smug [which _doesn't_ mean I disagree with it, just its certainty], though haven't read it all.) But Usenet isn't the place for deep philosophical discussions. Agreed. That won't stop people having them here though. So this is almost certainly my *last* post to this thread, simply because you and I both know this thread has run its course and now the [bit naming other people snipped] Yes. Which makes things more difficult for we who see both sides, as we find it more difficult to argue: those who only see one side are much quicker to respond, which is often to their advantage. (I hate and fear mobs of all kinds.) [and again] The three people exist: 1. Smart but almost always wrong because he just guesses 2. Emotional, and almost always wrong because he's driven by emotions 3. Not all that smart, but able to see a fact when it's shown to him So which one are you (-:? [] So all you can do is move on, as I am doing at the end of this thread. (Do you mean ... of this _post_?) (Where the jackals will pounce on the dying thread as they wish.) I've seen no sign of them so far, other than one post from Savageduck (who may or may not be one of the people you condemn). You just have to hope they don't vote. I'd be wary of using the term "apologist" quite so freely: in my experience, the person using the term in any argument is the one who usually goes down in my estimation, _even if it is true_. Probably, the same applies to _any_ name-calling. The problem with people like nospam is exemplified in the thread I will repeatedly point you to. Have you read it? If you don't call nospam an iOS apologist after reading that thread, you have to come up with some kind of description for someone who emphatically says 1+1=3 sans a shred of proof and despite proof that 1+1=2. You haven't digested what I said (or have chosen to ignore it), that people who go around calling others names - *even if correctly* - generally, to *me*, go down in my opinion. [] How do you respond to someone who *can't* understand he's dead wrong? I try, with you ... (-: [] You're casting aspersions at _all_ Apple owners (yes, I saw you use the word "propensity", but still). _Some_ Apple owners - I suspect it's a minority, but perhaps a bigger one than you think - are willing to pay the extra, for the convenience of knowing it will all work together properly: they value their _time_ (not) spent on the matter highly. To give a very imperfect analogy, you (assuming you drive) buy fuel for your car without worrying whether it's appropriate: I'm not talking about whether it's contaminated, but it could be fuel that would work fine in a differently-set-up engine than yours but wouldn't in yours, but you don't worry about that, you just buy it. (Don't analyse that analogy - I said it's imperfect; it just came to mind, as car analogies are popular.) I'm currently reading Guns, Germs, and Steel, where I find it interesting that the origin of common misconceptions is explored. What I prefer Snopes for that (-: [] All I did was explain why there is a never-ending argument between Apple apologists and people how understand facts. Sounds like you're accusing them of having a closed mind. And I find myself thinking about pots and kettles. [] while the more refined argument shows facts as they exist. Certainly this Though I agree with you (I think) on the three examples above, you've got to be careful not to be saying "the more refined argument is the one that agrees with me" (-: I never said that. In fact, in the gay-rights situation, the more refined argument is sheer and utter genius on the part of people whom I disagree with (on the details). So you go with the childish argument! [I haven't actually worked out which side you're on in that debate, though I can't say I care.] [] Sometimes I agree with the childish side of the argument. Sometimes I agree with the more-refined side of the argument. Strange; what you've been saying up to now suggests you usually despise the childish argument (because you think those on that side can only see one side). [] Want to know another never-ending argument that I know both sides of? Not really. [LOTS more snipped.] Good luck. Karma to you all. See you in the Usenet afterlife! You too. I think. -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf Europeans see luxury as a badge of civilisation. Whereas we [British] have shabbiness as a badge of civilisation. - Laurence Llewelyn-Bowen, in Radio Times 12-18 October 2013 |
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What's a good free Windows video editor that crops out data in the MP4 video frame? (now software selection in general - and getting OT philosophical)
In article , J. P. Gilliver
(John) wrote: For the price of an iPhone, you could get an Android one, with ten pretty coloured cases, and still have a lot of change left over. not with the same specs, you can't. |
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In message , Char Jackson
writes: On Thu, 12 Oct 2017 09:54:41 +0000 (UTC), harry newton wrote: You [John] don't seem to appreciate the efficiency of vi, but I do. It just means we place different values on different things. As long as you accept that the efficiency of which you speak comes as a He won't (-: result of familiarity, not anything inherently efficient about the product. If you look at it objectively, it's among the least efficient tools, wouldn't you agree? He won't (-: [It (vi, emacs, and similar] _is_ a good editor, and _can_ do things a lot of others can't. But I think it's more suited to a command-line environment.] -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf Advertising is legalized lying. - H.G. Wells |
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Savageduck writes: On Oct 12, 2017, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote (in article ): Le Snip I'm glad you didn't mind my little dig (-:. [My name's John by the way.] That’s great! *harry newton* is known to many of us the nymshifting, cross posting, insulting troll also known as, *Aardvark*, *AArdvarks*, *Tomos Davies*, *Chaya Eve*, *Roy Tremblay*, *Blake Snyder*, *Lionel Muller*, *Stijn De Jong*, *John Harmon*, *Martin Chuzzlewit II*, *Raymond Spruance III*, *Algeria Horan*, *Horace Algier*, *Karl Schultz*, *Conradt*, *Henning Schröder*, *Liam O’Connor*, *Alphonse Arnaud*, *Danny DiAmico*, *VinnyP*, *Juan Camilo Blanco*, and many more. So you can anticipate his reappearance soon, clad in a fresh sock. I haven't seen any of those. (Why all the asterisks? And do you have this as a file, ready to post?) The only reason I am even seeing your post is the change you made to the subject line. So you killed on subject line rather than thread. -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf Advertising is legalized lying. - H.G. Wells |
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What's a good free Windows video editor that crops out data in the MP4 video frame? (now software selection in general)
In article , J. P. Gilliver
(John) wrote: *harry newton* is known to many of us the nymshifting, cross posting, insulting troll also known as, *Aardvark*, *AArdvarks*, *Tomos Davies*, *Chaya Eve*, *Roy Tremblay*, *Blake Snyder*, *Lionel Muller*, *Stijn De Jong*, *John Harmon*, *Martin Chuzzlewit II*, *Raymond Spruance III*, *Algeria Horan*, *Horace Algier*, *Karl Schultz*, *Conradt*, *Henning Schröder*, *Liam OąConnor*, *Alphonse Arnaud*, *Danny DiAmico*, *VinnyP*, *Juan Camilo Blanco*, and many more. So you can anticipate his reappearance soon, clad in a fresh sock. I haven't seen any of those. (Why all the asterisks? And do you have this as a file, ready to post?) the asterisks are for bold. does your newsreader not support *bold* /italic/ and _underline_ ? |
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On Oct 12, 2017, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote
(in article ): In iganews.com, Savageduck writes: On Oct 12, 2017, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote (in article ): Le Snip I'm glad you didn't mind my little dig (-:. [My name's John by the way.] That’s great! *harry newton* is known to many of us the nymshifting, cross posting, insulting troll also known as, *Aardvark*, *AArdvarks*, *Tomos Davies*, *Chaya Eve*, *Roy Tremblay*, *Blake Snyder*, *Lionel Muller*, *Stijn De Jong*, *John Harmon*, *Martin Chuzzlewit II*, *Raymond Spruance III*, *Algeria Horan*, *Horace Algier*, *Karl Schultz*, *Conradt*, *Henning Schröder*, *Liam O’Connor*, *Alphonse Arnaud*, *Danny DiAmico*, *VinnyP*, *Juan Camilo Blanco*, and many more. So you can anticipate his reappearance soon, clad in a fresh sock. I haven't seen any of those. (Why all the asterisks? And do you have this as a file, ready to post?) He has used those ever changing nyms and more on the various iOS& Mac News Groups, as well as rec.photo.digital. His anti-Apple position is blatant and insulting. Personally, I am finished engaging him at any level. His MO and writing style are better than a DNA signature. His content typically includes a request for help of some type, endless lists of freeware, along with initially thinly veiled insults to knowledgeable contributors who disagree with him. He will cross post to multiple unrelated NGs with the trollish intent of creating disruptive, intrusive responses. As for the asterisks, let’s just say I was emphasizing my personal attempt to isolate him. I don’t have the list available as a file ready to post. I have a rule titled, “Santa Cruz Mnts/Santa Clara Asshole” where each of those nyms are listed. The only reason I am even seeing your post is the change you made to the subject line. So you killed on subject line rather than thread. That time I did. -- Regards, Savageduck |
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On Thu, 12 Oct 2017 20:16:04 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
wrote: In message , harry newton writes: If the old software has done *everything* you want it to do, what value is new software anyway? Ah, that's one of my favourite arguments! However, I am fully aware that it makes me stuck in the past, and not aware of new things that I "didn't know I wanted" (-:. Perhaps I'm in the minority, but that's an argument I strongly disagree with. There can be many values of new software. In no particular order, here are a few (and it's not meant to be a complete list): 1. It can be faster than the old software. 2. It can be easier to use than the old software. 3. It can have a smaller footprint than the old software. 4. It can be more secure than the old software. 5. It can be compatible with newer hardware that the old software isn't compatible with. 6. It can be compatible with a new version of your operating system that the older software isn't compatible with. 7. It can be compatible with other software you run that the older software isn't compatible with. 8. And perhaps most important, it can do valuable new things that you hadn't even thought of doing before (your last point above). |
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