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So am I now registered?
So as you may or may not know, I've been having a helluva time upgrading
my Windows 7 Ultimate desktop into a Windows 10 Pro. I have an SSD, and I ran out of space on it, so I followed a well-respected early procedure for how to move your Users folder over to another drive, without affecting your Windows setup. It involves using a directory junction to replace the old location and point it towards the new location. Well, it turns out that this is specifically one of the things not supported by the Windows 10 upgrade now. It will prevent you from upgrading. Long story short, I have a lot of backups made (both images and file/folder backups), and so I was able to break a few links and then was able to do the Windows 10 upgrade that way. So I assume that now that I've done the upgrade, that I am now safe restore the Windows 7 from backups, and that I can go back to Windows 10 at anytime in the future, even after the free upgrade period is over? Obviously without making too many hardware changes of course. Yousuf Khan |
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"Yousuf Khan" wrote in message ... So as you may or may not know, I've been having a helluva time upgrading my Windows 7 Ultimate desktop into a Windows 10 Pro. I have an SSD, and I ran out of space on it, so I followed a well-respected early procedure for how to move your Users folder over to another drive, without affecting your Windows setup. It involves using a directory junction to replace the old location and point it towards the new location. Well, it turns out that this is specifically one of the things not supported by the Windows 10 upgrade now. It will prevent you from upgrading. Long story short, I have a lot of backups made (both images and file/folder backups), and so I was able to break a few links and then was able to do the Windows 10 upgrade that way. So I assume that now that I've done the upgrade, that I am now safe restore the Windows 7 from backups, and that I can go back to Windows 10 at anytime in the future, even after the free upgrade period is over? Obviously without making too many hardware changes of course. Yousuf Khan That's not my experience. On replacing a motherboard the Windows 10 entitlement was lost. Reinstalling W7 Pro on a 40GB partition & immediately moving the Downloads, Documents folders (using Properties/Location tab) & creating a new Programmes folder on a second partition did not prevent W10 upgrading successfully. Regards wasbit -- |
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On 10/05/2016 12:08 PM, Yousuf Khan wrote:
... turns out that this is specifically one of the things not supported by the Windows 10 upgrade now. It will prevent you from upgrading. It's been like that since Windows 8! Long story short, I have a lot of backups made (both images and file/folder backups), and so I was able to break a few links and then was able to do the Windows 10 upgrade that way. Never copy the junction points! And you better backup both C:\Users and C:\ProgramData! ... that I am now safe restore the Windows 7 from backups, and that I can go back to Windows 10 at anytime in the future, even after the free upgrade period is over? Obviously without making too many hardware changes of course. You better do a clean install of Win 10 version1511 using the Win 7 product key. Format the SSD completely when installing. That way you would have a really clean system. Again, backup all things that smelled like your data in all partitions of the SSD. -- @~@ Remain silent. Drink, Blink, Stretch! Live long and prosper! / v \ Simplicity is Beauty! May the Force and farces be with you! /( _ )\ (Fedora release 23) Linux 4.4.8-300.fc23.x86_64 ^ ^ 01:51:01 up 6 days 8 min 0 users load average: 1.23 1.13 1.07 不借貸! 不詐騙! 不援交! 不打交! 不打劫! 不自殺! 請考慮綜援 (CSSA): http://www.swd.gov.hk/tc/index/site_...sub_addressesa |
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Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
Never copy the junction points! And you better backup both C:\Users and C:\ProgramData! I do not recommend this form of "file-by-file" backup. Use a proper backup program, and let it take care of the details. If you have OS on C: and Users on D:, just back up C: and D: . It only takes seconds to set up the backup, and then you can ignore it as the backup program does all the work. Slaving over some script with XXcopy stuff that keeps breaking, is no way to maintain a computer. Paul |
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On 10/05/2016 7:46 AM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
On 10/05/2016 12:08 PM, Yousuf Khan wrote: ... turns out that this is specifically one of the things not supported by the Windows 10 upgrade now. It will prevent you from upgrading. It's been like that since Windows 8! Yup, but I could care less about Windows 8, much the same as most other people. Long story short, I have a lot of backups made (both images and file/folder backups), and so I was able to break a few links and then was able to do the Windows 10 upgrade that way. Never copy the junction points! And you better backup both C:\Users and C:\ProgramData! Under Windows 7, my Users was actually on D drive by now, with a junction point pointing to it on C drive. ProgramData remained on C drive. Good point about backing up ProgramData. It was being backed up by the imaging procedure, but that runs only once weekly, whereas the Users is backed up daily. So I'll add the ProgramData to same daily backup as the Users. ... that I am now safe restore the Windows 7 from backups, and that I can go back to Windows 10 at anytime in the future, even after the free upgrade period is over? Obviously without making too many hardware changes of course. You better do a clean install of Win 10 version1511 using the Win 7 product key. Format the SSD completely when installing. That way you would have a really clean system. I attempted that too, but it never accepted my Win 7 product key. It only accepted it during an upgrade. Well during the upgrade, it never even asked for the key, of course, so it's an implied acceptance. Although now that I have finally done a successful upgrade, now clean installs are also available to me. However, I got too much **** to reinstall everything after a clean install. Yousuf Khan |
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On 10/05/2016 5:01 AM, wasbit wrote:
That's not my experience. On replacing a motherboard the Windows 10 entitlement was lost. Reinstalling W7 Pro on a 40GB partition & immediately moving the Downloads, Documents folders (using Properties/Location tab) & creating a new Programmes folder on a second partition did not prevent W10 upgrading successfully. In my case, I didn't just move the Downloads and Documents folders, I moved the entire Users folder to another drive, with all users aboard. Then I re-linked the Users folder to the C drive using a directory junction. The directory junction made everything look like it was still on the C drive. This was a very clever way to fool Windows into accepting a new folder location during the Windows 7 era, but for some reason Microsoft stopped allowing this with Windows 8 and above. Yousuf Khan |
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On 10/05/2016 9:30 AM, Paul wrote:
Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote: Never copy the junction points! And you better backup both C:\Users and C:\ProgramData! I do not recommend this form of "file-by-file" backup. Use a proper backup program, and let it take care of the details. If you have OS on C: and Users on D:, just back up C: and D: . It only takes seconds to set up the backup, and then you can ignore it as the backup program does all the work. Slaving over some script with XXcopy stuff that keeps breaking, is no way to maintain a computer. In my case, it is a proper backup program, Macrium. Yousuf Khan |
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Yousuf Khan wrote:
On 10/05/2016 9:30 AM, Paul wrote: Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote: Never copy the junction points! And you better backup both C:\Users and C:\ProgramData! I do not recommend this form of "file-by-file" backup. Use a proper backup program, and let it take care of the details. If you have OS on C: and Users on D:, just back up C: and D: . It only takes seconds to set up the backup, and then you can ignore it as the backup program does all the work. Slaving over some script with XXcopy stuff that keeps breaking, is no way to maintain a computer. In my case, it is a proper backup program, Macrium. Yousuf Khan One reason to do non-image backups in addition to images is to allow access by iPads which cannot read images. Also secure NAS access of backups over the internet while traveling using an iPad can be very helpful. -- Zaidy036 |
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On 10/05/2016 05:08, Yousuf Khan wrote:
So as you may or may not know, I've been having a helluva time upgrading my Windows 7 Ultimate desktop into a Windows 10 Pro. I have an SSD, and I ran out of space on it, so I followed a well-respected early procedure for how to move your Users folder over to another drive, without affecting your Windows setup. It involves using a directory junction to replace the old location and point it towards the new location. Well, it turns out that this is specifically one of the things not supported by the Windows 10 upgrade now. It will prevent you from upgrading. Long story short, I have a lot of backups made (both images and file/folder backups), and so I was able to break a few links and then was able to do the Windows 10 upgrade that way. So I assume that now that I've done the upgrade, that I am now safe restore the Windows 7 from backups, and that I can go back to Windows 10 at anytime in the future, even after the free upgrade period is over? Obviously without making too many hardware changes of course. Yousuf Khan It seems to me that nobody is answering your question. It sounds like you want to restore your comlpete Windows 7 and carry on using that for the time being while having claimed your free Windows 10 upgrade for possible use on this hardware at a later date. Yes, I think what you have done will work but obviously nobody knows for sure until after July 29th. -- Brian Gregory (in the UK). To email me please remove all the letter vee from my email address. |
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On 05/10/2016 12:08 AM, Yousuf Khan wrote:
So as you may or may not know, I've been having a helluva time upgrading my Windows 7 Ultimate desktop into a Windows 10 Pro. I have an SSD, and I ran out of space on it, so I followed a well-respected early procedure for how to move your Users folder over to another drive, without affecting your Windows setup. It involves using a directory junction to replace the old location and point it towards the new location. Well, it turns out that this is specifically one of the things not supported by the Windows 10 upgrade now. It will prevent you from upgrading. Long story short, I have a lot of backups made (both images and file/folder backups), and so I was able to break a few links and then was able to do the Windows 10 upgrade that way. So I assume that now that I've done the upgrade, that I am now safe restore the Windows 7 from backups, and that I can go back to Windows 10 at anytime in the future, even after the free upgrade period is over? Obviously without making too many hardware changes of course. Yousuf Khan How to Geek newsletter or website just recently had an article about getting windows 10 after the 1 year runs out. And basically they say just what you did. Get your system up to windows 10 before the deadline then put windows 7 back. But just make sure your windows 10 is activated by going into the settings and look at activation. If you're activated, then you got the entitlement and as long as no major changes are made to your hardware you can reload 10 any time. http://www.howtogeek.com/253901/get-...ttle-prep-now/ |
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On Wed, 11 May 2016 09:24:12 -0400, Big Al wrote:
How to Geek newsletter or website just recently had an article about getting windows 10 after the 1 year runs out. And basically they say just what you did. Get your system up to windows 10 before the deadline then put windows 7 back. Or don't. People worrying about "missing out" on Windows 10 are the spiritual descendants of 18th-century French aristos worrying about missing out on the guillotine. -- Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA http://BrownMath.com/ http://OakRoadSystems.com/ Shikata ga nai... |
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On 10/05/2016 1:50 PM, Brian Gregory wrote:
It seems to me that nobody is answering your question. It sounds like you want to restore your comlpete Windows 7 and carry on using that for the time being while having claimed your free Windows 10 upgrade for possible use on this hardware at a later date. Yes, I think what you have done will work but obviously nobody knows for sure until after July 29th. Yes, you're absolutely right, that was my question. Thanks, even if you didn't have a definitive answer, you at least understood the question properly. Yousuf Khan |
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On 11/05/2016 9:24 AM, Big Al wrote:
How to Geek newsletter or website just recently had an article about getting windows 10 after the 1 year runs out. And basically they say just what you did. Get your system up to windows 10 before the deadline then put windows 7 back. But just make sure your windows 10 is activated by going into the settings and look at activation. If you're activated, then you got the entitlement and as long as no major changes are made to your hardware you can reload 10 any time. http://www.howtogeek.com/253901/get-...ttle-prep-now/ Yeah, but some of the problem resulted from following a previous How To Geek newsletter. They said that it will accept my Windows 7 activation key, but it never did. How to do a Clean Install of Windows 10, the Easy Way http://www.howtogeek.com/224342/how-...ll-windows-10/ So How To Geek is a bit suspect in my mind. Yousuf Khan |
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On 17/05/2016 18:16, Yousuf Khan wrote:
Yeah, but some of the problem resulted from following a previous How To Geek newsletter. They said that it will accept my Windows 7 activation key, but it never did. People have already pointed out that you are a very stupid person. First you are reading a very old article; Second, you are using a very old ISO; Third, you are not able to read these posts carefully and follow them strictly; Fourth, you are committed jihadist. Now with all this in your character, there is nothing anybody here can do to help you or to reform you to be a better Muslim. -- 1. /*This post contains rich text (HTML). if you don't like it then you can kill-filter the poster without crying like a small baby.*/ 2. /*This message is best read in Mozilla Thunderbird as it uses 21st century technology.*/ |
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