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Hi All,
W7-pro-x64 I have a customer that needs a stand alone, flat bed scanner that will do 8-1/2" by 14". Any favorites? Many thanks, -T |
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T wrote:
Hi All, W7-pro-x64 I have a customer that needs a stand alone, flat bed scanner that will do 8-1/2" by 14". Any favorites? Many thanks, -T EPSON WorkForce DS-1630 (B11B239201) Duplex 1200 dpi x 1200 dpi USB Color Flatbed Scanner $280 https://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...9SIA1YH5799282 It's CIS, which means no depth-of-field. If you take a textbook and lay it on the bed, none of the text near the binding will be visible. A CCD sensor will pick up that text on the curve, as it has depth of field. Most scanners were CCD, many many years ago. Now, they're all CIS, with few exceptions. Document scanning only needs 150-300DPI, as you only need enough resolution to meet Nyquist on media which is printed with dots (half-tone). You count the dots, to figure out the correct scan DPI. A "de-screen" plugin does the best job of anti-aliasing the resulting image. So while 600DPI optical resolution may seem restrictive, in practice it's good enough. For photographic paper or negatives, you can find a smaller scanner with 6400DPI, dual illumination for dust and scratch removal, 2 minute per page scan time, an entirely different beast. The grain size of photographic paper or negatives, means you can crank the res all you want. If you expect to be doing mostly office work, then you're stuck with the low-res unit, because the scan times will almost be reasonable. I own a scanner with a 2 minute scan time, and I can tell you, it's a real damper when it comes to scanning. Waiting and waiting... You want a scanner which only takes a few seconds per page. ******* You will likely have to visit a lot of web stores, to get a good picture of what is available. Paul |
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On 10/14/2017 04:24 PM, Paul wrote:
T wrote: Hi All, W7-pro-x64 I have a customer that needs a stand alone, flat bed scanner that will do 8-1/2" by 14". Any favorites? Many thanks, -T EPSON WorkForce DS-1630 (B11B239201) Duplex 1200 dpi x 1200 dpi USB Color Flatbed ScannerÂ*Â* $280 https://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...9SIA1YH5799282 It's CIS, which means no depth-of-field. If you take a textbook and lay it on the bed, none of the text near the binding will be visible. A CCD sensor will pick up that text on the curve, as it has depth of field. Most scanners were CCD, many many years ago. Now, they're all CIS, with few exceptions. Document scanning only needs 150-300DPI, as you only need enough resolution to meet Nyquist on media which is printed with dots (half-tone). You count the dots, to figure out the correct scan DPI. A "de-screen" plugin does the best job of anti-aliasing the resulting image. So while 600DPI optical resolution may seem restrictive, in practice it's good enough. For photographic paper or negatives, you can find a smaller scanner with 6400DPI, dual illumination for dust and scratch removal, 2 minute per page scan time, an entirely different beast. The grain size of photographic paper or negatives, means you can crank the res all you want. If you expect to be doing mostly office work, then you're stuck with the low-res unit, because the scan times will almost be reasonable. I own a scanner with a 2 minute scan time, and I can tell you, it's a real damper when it comes to scanning. Waiting and waiting... You want a scanner which only takes a few seconds per page. ******* You will likely have to visit a lot of web stores, to get a good picture of what is available. Â*Â* Paul Thank you! She has no book to scan, but dies have stabled documents |
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On 10/14/2017 04:24 PM, Paul wrote: T wrote: Hi All, W7-pro-x64 I have a customer that needs a stand alone, flat bed scanner that will do 8-1/2" by 14". Any favorites? Many thanks, -T EPSON WorkForce DS-1630 (B11B239201) Duplex 1200 dpi x 1200 dpi USB Color Flatbed Scanner $280 https://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...9SIA1YH5799282 Thank you! She has no book to scan, but dies have stabled documents Before you race off and do a victory lap, a word of warning. https://epson.com/For-Work/Scanners/...r/p/B11B239201 scan up to 8.5x11 on the platen scan up to 8.5x14 on the ADF If your ADF breaks, then laying the documents flat on the platen doesn't give you a 8.5x14 scanner. The duplexing storage area defines the 14" limit. One other scanner with an ADF (but no duplexing function), describes their scanner as 8.5xN, as it'll just keep grabbing an infinitely long sheet and shove it into the output tray area. ******* This is another Epson, probably the model replaced by the DS-1630. It's price should be the same as the DS-1630. https://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...9SIA61K53X2908 I have a lot of trouble, judging by eye, whether I'm getting an 8.5x14 platen there. It might be another 8.5x11 platen. ******* This one is pretty expensive (and maybe the price is wrong), but this one right on the web page, says both the ADF and platen scan 8.5"x14". HP Scanjet 8270 $598 ??? https://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...9SIA6AU4UH5273 It has a duplex ADF so flips the paper for the second scan. And then the paper has to be in mint condition, or the duplex request will jam up. Maybe it runs a bit better in simplex mode. ******* And then the price shoots up from there. This one has an 8.5x14 platen. DocuMate 3640 40ppm Color Duplex 8.5x14" ADF/Flatbed VRS Professional $1500+ https://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...82E16838152054 The prices are all over the place on this stuff. It's like a used car lot, where the price changes depending on whether you're wearing a skirt. Paul |
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On 10/14/2017 07:00 PM, Wolf K wrote:
On 2017-10-14 20:35, T wrote: On 10/14/2017 04:24 PM, Paul wrote: T wrote: Hi All, W7-pro-x64 I have a customer that needs a stand alone, flat bed scanner that will do 8-1/2" by 14". Any favorites? Many thanks, -T EPSON WorkForce DS-1630 (B11B239201) Duplex 1200 dpi x 1200 dpi USB Color Flatbed ScannerÂ*Â* $280 https://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...9SIA1YH5799282 It's CIS, which means no depth-of-field. If you take a textbook and lay it on the bed, none of the text near the binding will be visible. A CCD sensor will pick up that text on the curve, as it has depth of field. Most scanners were CCD, many many years ago. Now, they're all CIS, with few exceptions. Document scanning only needs 150-300DPI, as you only need enough resolution to meet Nyquist on media which is printed with dots (half-tone). You count the dots, to figure out the correct scan DPI. A "de-screen" plugin does the best job of anti-aliasing the resulting image. So while 600DPI optical resolution may seem restrictive, in practice it's good enough. For photographic paper or negatives, you can find a smaller scanner with 6400DPI, dual illumination for dust and scratch removal, 2 minute per page scan time, an entirely different beast. The grain size of photographic paper or negatives, means you can crank the res all you want. If you expect to be doing mostly office work, then you're stuck with the low-res unit, because the scan times will almost be reasonable. I own a scanner with a 2 minute scan time, and I can tell you, it's a real damper when it comes to scanning. Waiting and waiting... You want a scanner which only takes a few seconds per page. ******* You will likely have to visit a lot of web stores, to get a good picture of what is available. Â*Â*Â* Paul Thank you! She has no book to scan, but dies have stabled documents If her printer is getting long in the tooth, it might be a better buy to get an all-in-one now instead of replacing the printer later. Stand-alone scanner + printer is considerably more expensive than all-in-one. The only difference between copy and scan is software; and adding a copy/scan engine to a printer is cheap compared to building it into its own box. She has a special stand alone printer for printing legal forms. |
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On 10/14/2017 07:35 PM, Paul wrote:
Â* scan up to 8.5x14 on the ADF Poop! Thank you for the warning! |
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On 10/14/2017 07:35 PM, Paul wrote:
T wrote: On 10/14/2017 04:24 PM, Paul wrote: T wrote: Hi All, W7-pro-x64 I have a customer that needs a stand alone, flat bed scanner that will do 8-1/2" by 14". Any favorites? Many thanks, -T EPSON WorkForce DS-1630 (B11B239201) Duplex 1200 dpi x 1200 dpi USB Color Flatbed ScannerÂ*Â* $280 https://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...9SIA1YH5799282 Thank you! She has no book to scan, but dies have stabled documents Before you race off and do a victory lap, a word of warning. https://epson.com/For-Work/Scanners/...r/p/B11B239201 Â*Â* scan up to 8.5x11 on the platen Â*Â* scan up to 8.5x14 on the ADF If your ADF breaks, then laying the documents flat on the platen doesn't give you a 8.5x14 scanner. The duplexing storage area defines the 14" limit. One other scanner with an ADF (but no duplexing function), describes their scanner as 8.5xN, as it'll just keep grabbing an infinitely long sheet and shove it into the output tray area. ******* This is another Epson, probably the model replaced by the DS-1630. It's price should be the same as the DS-1630. https://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...9SIA61K53X2908 I have a lot of trouble, judging by eye, whether I'm getting an 8.5x14 platen there. It might be another 8.5x11 platen. ******* This one is pretty expensive (and maybe the price is wrong), but this one right on the web page, says both the ADF and platen scan 8.5"x14". HP Scanjet 8270Â* $598 ??? https://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...9SIA6AU4UH5273 It has a duplex ADF so flips the paper for the second scan. And then the paper has to be in mint condition, or the duplex request will jam up. Maybe it runs a bit better in simplex mode. ******* And then the price shoots up from there. This one has an 8.5x14 platen. DocuMate 3640 40ppm Color Duplex 8.5x14" ADF/Flatbed VRS Professional $1500+ https://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...82E16838152054 The prices are all over the place on this stuff. It's like a used car lot, where the price changes depending on whether you're wearing a skirt. Â*Â* Paul Thank you! |
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On 10/14/2017 07:35 PM, Paul wrote:
This is another Epson, probably the model replaced by the DS-1630. It's price should be the same as the DS-1630. https://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...9SIA61K53X2908 I have a lot of trouble, judging by eye, whether I'm getting an 8.5x14 platen there. It might be another 8.5x11 platen. https://epson.com/For-Work/Scanners/...r/p/B11B190011 Maximum Scan Area: Flatbed: 8.5" x 11.7" ADF: 8.5" x 14" Poop! |
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On 10/14/2017 4:53 PM, T wrote:
Hi All, W7-pro-x64 I have a customer that needs a stand alone, flat bed scanner that will do 8-1/2" by 14". Any favorites? Many thanks, -T canon's Lide 110 |
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In message , Paul
writes: T wrote: On 10/14/2017 04:24 PM, Paul wrote: T wrote: Hi All, W7-pro-x64 I have a customer that needs a stand alone, flat bed scanner that will do 8-1/2" by 14". Any favorites? Many thanks, -T (You should have said what the purpose was, though [a] the size you mention suggests it's documents rather than photographs, [b] you have confirmed that later.) [] storage area defines the 14" limit. One other scanner with an ADF (but no duplexing function), describes their scanner as 8.5xN, as it'll just keep grabbing an infinitely long sheet and shove it into the output tray area. [] I have a small scanner that is like that: it's a feedthrough scanner (no duplex), that is about standard width (A4 for Europe, 8.5" I think is what you use in USA), but unlimited length - as Paul says, it just keeps feeding through indefinitely. I find it handy as it's very portable - goes in a tubular bag. The good length capability is useful for genealogy (birth/marriage/death certificates in the UK used to be rather long, or rather wide). IIRR it's an Antec. I won't recommend it for you, as I suspect you want (though not necessarily high-resolution, as someone else has said), _accurate_ scans, and this does tend to skew a bit if you're not careful as you feed them through. -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf Society has the right to punish wrongdoing; it doesn't have the right to make punishment a form of entertainment. This is where things have gone wrong: humiliating other people has become both a blood sport and a narcotic. - Joe Queenan, RT 2015/6/27-7/3 |
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