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Different Property - Details between Win7Pro and Enterprise - Capture.PNG (1/1) [106K]
On Thu, 26 Oct 2017 15:28:29 -0400, Mark Carson
wrote: The attached image includes two Properties screenshots, the left from Win 7 Pro (Mac + Parallels) and the right from Win 7 Enterprise on a company-supplied Dell. I'd like to obtain the level of detail of the Enterprise shot -- is there an add-on, or is that a feature of Enterprise? Or, is there an add-on to Sierra Finder that would get me these additional details? (Moving to High Sierra next week.) Thanks. Enterprise: "Your data boldly goes where no data has gone before". Or ... you can just "upgrade" to Win 10. []'s As to your post, I have no idea. Hint: post a link to images in text-only groups, not the actual images. -- Don't be evil - Google 2004 We have a new policy - Google 2012 |
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Different Property - Details between Win7Pro and Enterprise -Capture.PNG (1/1) [106K]
On 26/10/2017 22:41, Shadow wrote:
On Thu, 26 Oct 2017 15:28:29 -0400, Mark Carson wrote: The attached image includes two Properties screenshots, the left from Win 7 Pro (Mac + Parallels) and the right from Win 7 Enterprise on a company-supplied Dell. I'd like to obtain the level of detail of the Enterprise shot -- is there an add-on, or is that a feature of Enterprise? Or, is there an add-on to Sierra Finder that would get me these additional details? (Moving to High Sierra next week.) Thanks. Enterprise: "Your data boldly goes where no data has gone before". Or ... you can just "upgrade" to Win 10. []'s As to your post, I have no idea. Hint: post a link to images in text-only groups, not the actual images. What on earth makes you think this is a "text-only group"? It isn't! :-P -- “Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing ever happened.” (Winston S. Churchill) |
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Different Property - Details between Win7Pro and Enterprise -Capture.PNG (1/1) [106K]
On 26-10-2017 23:50, David B. wrote:
On 26/10/2017 22:41, Shadow wrote: On Thu, 26 Oct 2017 15:28:29 -0400, Mark Carson wrote: The attached image includes two Properties screenshots, the left from Win 7 Pro (Mac + Parallels) and the right from Win 7 Enterprise on a company-supplied Dell. I'd like to obtain the level of detail of the Enterprise shot -- is there an add-on, or is that a feature of Enterprise? Or, is there an add-on to Sierra Finder that would get me these additional details? (Moving to High Sierra next week.) Thanks. Enterprise: "Your data boldly goes where no data has gone before". Or ... you can just "upgrade" to Win 10. []'s As to your post, I have no idea. Hint: post a link to images in text-only groups, not the actual images. What on earth makes you think this is a "text-only group"? It isn't! :-P My isp is kicking your but and your attached pics. |
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Different Property - Details between Win7Pro and Enterprise - Capture.PNG (1/1) [106K]
On Oct 26, 2017, Shadow wrote
(in ): On Thu, 26 Oct 2017 15:28:29 -0400, Mark wrote: The attached image includes two Properties screenshots, the left from Win 7 Pro (Mac + Parallels) and the right from Win 7 Enterprise on a company-supplied Dell. I'd like to obtain the level of detail of the Enterprise shot -- is there an add-on, or is that a feature of Enterprise? Or, is there an add-on to Sierra Finder that would get me these additional details? (Moving to High Sierra next week.) Thanks. Enterprise: "Your data boldly goes where no data has gone before". Or ... you can just "upgrade" to Win 10. []'s As to your post, I have no idea. Hint: post a link to images in text-only groups, not the actual images. Images work for me. I’m using Hogwasher for Mac. If it matters. |
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Different Property - Details between Win7Pro and Enterprise -Capture.PNG (1/1) [106K]
On 26/10/2017 23:00, Sjouke Burry wrote:
On 26-10-2017 23:50, David B. wrote: On 26/10/2017 22:41, Shadow wrote: On Thu, 26 Oct 2017 15:28:29 -0400, Mark Carson wrote: The attached image includes two Properties screenshots, the left from Win 7 Pro (Mac + Parallels) and the right from Win 7 Enterprise on a company-supplied Dell. I'd like to obtain the level of detail of the Enterprise shot -- is there an add-on, or is that a feature of Enterprise? Or, is there an add-on to Sierra Finder that would get me these additional details? (Moving to High Sierra next week.) Thanks. ****Enterprise: ****"Your data boldly goes where no data has gone before". ****Or ... you can just "upgrade" to Win 10. ****[]'s ****As to your post, I have no idea. Hint: post a link to images in text-only groups, not the actual images. What on earth makes you think this is a "text-only group"? It isn't! :-P My isp is kicking your but and your attached pics. I hadn't attached a piccie ..... until now! Thunderbird displays images for me in these groups. -- “Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing ever happened.” (Winston S. Churchill) |
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Different Property - Details between Win7Pro and Enterprise - Capture.PNG (1/1) [106K]
In message ies.com,
Mark Carson writes: On Oct 26, 2017, Shadow wrote (in ): [] As to your post, I have no idea. Hint: post a link to images in text-only groups, not the actual images. Images work for me. I’m using Hogwasher for Mac. If it matters. It doesn't matter what you're using, more what news server you're on, and how that connects to others to pass on the posts to the rest of the world. From your headers, I _think_ you're posting through something called AllBinaries.com; with a name like that, it wouldn't surprise me if you - and probably other users of AllBinaries - can see your images; however, when other newsservers accept posts from AllBinaries to pass on to the rest of the world, attachments (including images) will be dropped, where the newsgroup isn't a binary one. (And many newsservers around the world - especially the free ones like eternal-september - [a] only handle text-only newsgroups, [b] don't accept attachments in those.) -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf As we journey through life, discarding baggage along the way, we should keep an iron grip, to the very end, on the capacity for silliness. It preserves the soul from desiccation. - Humphrey Lyttelton quoted by Barry Cryer in Radio Times 10-16 November 2012 |
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Different Property - Details between Win7Pro and Enterprise - Capture.PNG (1/1) [106K]
On Fri, 27 Oct 2017 10:32:03 +0100, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
It doesn't matter what you're using, more what news server you're on, and how that connects to others to pass on the posts to the rest of the world. From your headers, I _think_ you're posting through something called AllBinaries.com; with a name like that, it wouldn't surprise me if you - and probably other users of AllBinaries - can see your images; however, when other newsservers accept posts from AllBinaries to pass on to the rest of the world, attachments (including images) will be dropped, where the newsgroup isn't a binary one. (And many newsservers around the world - especially the free ones like eternal-september - [a] only handle text-only newsgroups, [b] don't accept attachments in those.) I wonder why news clients don't provide a (sneaky) workaround for this. i.e. provide an vendor specific (non standard) method to send binary data using UUEncode, Base64, etc. but with non standard header+footer marker lines. Like below GIF image. -+*= uniqueId; 1/1; base64; "test image.gif" =*+- R0lGODlhyAB+AMQAAM3V5e3w9sXO4dzi7dXc6eXp8vn6/PT1+crS4+ru9PL0+OLm8Nje6 t/k7v39/tTa6Nvg7Pb4+tHY5/7+/+/y9+js8/v8/fj5+/z8/cfQ4s/X5uzv9cvT5MzU5P ///8TN4CH5BAAAAAAALAAAAADIAH4AAAX/4CeOZGmeaKqubOu+cCzPdG3feK7vfO//wKB wSCwaj8ikcslsOp/QqHRKrVptAgABMmhcv2AbAhK4ODxoTyLMbqc4jEp6jl647+5OI ULv U/CAVxIFfYVoAIGJUQN8hoYDipFLC46VaBqSmUQMGJaeDJqhPQgH nqZqoqk3A6etFxmqs TABrbUeBLK5KRkGtrZeusEiHb7Fa8K5GsXLf8iqHMvRx86hZ9H LENSalNfRAtqS3dd24I ms4tHliRTo0YjqeL3txcDwbQjzy9P2Ycr5vgr4tSHwz9cBgWwI FqxlAWGYBgtrYfjm8Aq 3iKYsUKxY5SJGSxo5WvH40VFIkVRI/5YsdBKlFJUr6bR0CQViTJMbaT55cNPRRJ1RFPbs cwFo0KGFDhrdibSP0qVNiDWd8xTqEn9T0Wyw2gRA1jRbuS7JYC 1rWLFJyH71UADtkk5fs 7k9IgDChLUBOswtksHC2jly9waR+hdNW8FB1Bb2UA/xD3mFcTkGUmoxh8lAEiz2gBmIzb 8YOv8QuraZaB7QCh8+zWMxJNY87v59AJtHo7Xvauc499WAbh4b vjrA9HtH5aYSivMgNBW Wch2ke0Z4vgNf033Ub9zuCSp7DuZDveuQgHS6+ByybwY+b0NOT +fsbXi9GTA+ju0fJdu3 wSBm0f04KLBSbgDWIEB6C61WoP8N4C20YA79ReTAgziQF1F9FN Zg4ULmZUhDhAtN4GENn xUk4ogzNFhQTii6oBlGerUIg4AY0SbjCxd8tN6NKhz4kYI87lI SdkGWkAED7HyEQQPEFV mCiiXB56QISd7U5JQflBVTd1gKgFQFWIoQ3Uq+heneUCwG6RdS rzmJ1VBV8cgAZEglcNm NA2iZVQBXPpgBTGspoB+AHdCyWR8WtMkeAzQe6sgCd2a3wJqOe kJBn7Bp8GKltUTQmGgM 4MdpLRMkgABmAAA6KkBcuvVAo6u2Y0EBUhqVQQN6xppPADbqBI ChupZ0wacOMRosUguci hAEdB47VF722OXsX9BqQ0BPs9N+BSYyAlSZ7WatxjLmt4sFkIu q5P41kyZQpnuoA2kqAo G7ujakSWr0xkpkIMflu2pykYDo76r/KQLrwKMCHEgGCAe7bSC8NTzqhEGEAAA7 -+*= uniqueId; 1/1; base64; "test image.gif" =*+- |
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Different Property - Details between Win7Pro and Enterprise -Capture.PNG (1/1) [106K]
JJ wrote:
On Fri, 27 Oct 2017 10:32:03 +0100, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote: It doesn't matter what you're using, more what news server you're on, and how that connects to others to pass on the posts to the rest of the world. From your headers, I _think_ you're posting through something called AllBinaries.com; with a name like that, it wouldn't surprise me if you - and probably other users of AllBinaries - can see your images; however, when other newsservers accept posts from AllBinaries to pass on to the rest of the world, attachments (including images) will be dropped, where the newsgroup isn't a binary one. (And many newsservers around the world - especially the free ones like eternal-september - [a] only handle text-only newsgroups, [b] don't accept attachments in those.) I wonder why news clients don't provide a (sneaky) workaround for this This falls under the general topic of "What if I abuse USENET, what then?" type questions. It depends on the extent of the abuse, whether the abuse costs money, whether the abuse completely obliterates ordinary conversations, and so on. When some moron pointed his movie-posting software at a text-only newsgroup, he was cut off at the knees in a day or two. The servers don't use AI. They use a tool called "cleanfeed" for some purposes. For example, you might notice an absence of Chinese knockoff sneaker adverts, and cleanfeed had some common terms included in it as a filter. As for ultimate tricks, steganography is a method of transmitting information (sparsely) within ordinary looking messages. And it's unlikely to be filterable. Only the level of traffic (hammering) or the like, might trip a filter on the server. But steganography has a relatively low data rate, and USENET posters aren't patient enough for such to pay off. Any time you abuse a text-only group, by posting images in it, if the method is "persistent", they can and will write a filter. Sometimes it takes months, for someone in the cabal to write a cancelbot, to stomp on certain kinds of abuse (floods). But eventually, the pool of server admins, someone will be interested enough in it, to stop it. When the movie-twits tried to abuse Howard (howardknight archive), Howard simply truncated large messages, ruining the archive and making it absolutely useless... And this is why we can't have nice things. Because you kids keep jumping on the sofa. The OPs post did make it to Howard, but... it got truncated, so I wasn't able to fetch it from there. And of course, Google removed the OPs post. The original post is not in the groups.google.com archive. If you abuse USENET, at the very least you should expect un-even propagation of your attack. If you post text on a text-only text group, it should get through. If you use custom encoding in messages, it'll get through on Monday, but will it work on Tuesday ? Ask Jeff Relf how that worked out. (That's the Relf we can't see, because he's in outer space.) Paul |
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Different Property - Details between Win7Pro and Enterprise - Capture.PNG (1/1) [106K]
In message , Paul
writes: JJ wrote: On Fri, 27 Oct 2017 10:32:03 +0100, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote: [] binary one. (And many newsservers around the world - especially the free ones like eternal-september - [a] only handle text-only newsgroups, [b] don't accept attachments in those.) I wonder why news clients don't provide a (sneaky) workaround for this This falls under the general topic of "What if I abuse USENET, what then?" type questions. It depends on the extent of the abuse, whether the abuse costs money, whether the abuse completely obliterates ordinary conversations, and so on. When some moron pointed his movie-posting software at a text-only newsgroup, he was cut off at the knees in a day or two. Yes; text-only 'groups aren't text-only out of spite or an attempt to control: they're text-only to keep the total volume down. (Remember that news posts are downloaded many times.) Given that many news servers are free (I _still_ don't get the business model, but it obviously works), and others cheap (such as the Berlin one), this is significant. [] Any time you abuse a text-only group, by posting images in it, if the method is "persistent", they can and will write a filter. Sometimes it takes months, for someone in the cabal to write a cancelbot, to stomp on certain kinds of abuse (floods). But eventually, the pool of server admins, someone will be interested enough in it, to stop it. To stop it by filter, that is. The offending poster will be blocked somewhat sooner, in most cases, I suspect! When the movie-twits tried to abuse Howard (howardknight archive), Howard simply truncated large messages, ruining the archive and making it absolutely useless... And this is why we can't have nice things. Because you kids keep jumping on the sofa. Nicely put (-: [] -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf The losses on both sides at Borodino [1812], 70 miles from Moscow, are the equivalent of a jumbo jet crashing into an area of six square miles every five minutes for the whole ten hours of the battle, killing or wounding everyone on board. - Andrew Roberts on Napoleon, RT 2015/6/13-19 |
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Different Property - Details between Win7Pro and Enterprise - Capture.PNG (1/1) [106K]
On Oct 27, 2017, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote
(in article ): In ltBinaries.com, Mark Carson writes: On Oct 26, 2017, Shadow wrote (in ): [] As to your post, I have no idea. Hint: post a link to images in text-only groups, not the actual images. Images work for me. I’m using Hogwasher for Mac. If it matters. It doesn't matter what you're using, more what news server you're on, and how that connects to others to pass on the posts to the rest of the world. From your headers, I _think_ you're posting through something called AllBinaries.com; with a name like that, it wouldn't surprise me if you - and probably other users of AllBinaries - can see your images; however, when other newsservers accept posts from AllBinaries to pass on to the rest of the world, attachments (including images) will be dropped, where the newsgroup isn't a binary one. (And many newsservers around the world - especially the free ones like eternal-september - [a] only handle text-only newsgroups, [b] don't accept attachments in those.) Johnny Carson: I did not know that. And yes, AltBinaries. |
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Different Property - Details between Win7Pro and Enterprise -Capture.PNG (1/1) [106K]
On 27/10/2017 02:14, Mark Carson wrote:
Images work for me. I’m using Hogwasher for Mac. If it matters. Does this work for you? You have to view these posts in "Original HTML" Capture.png https://photos-6.dropbox.com/t/2/AAC-cmX4Cmcio0lpNeaepEX-ssv42eikpKSFS-83Lu6CGQ/12/6019758/png/32x32/3/1509166800/0/2/Capture.PNG/EM_tsrMFGA4gBygH/LG3RofwxTVUya_wjmOa2bTL8P6FFK7L2p1rp2_Kjr-o?dl=0&size=1600x1200&size_mode=3 -- With over 500 million devices now running Windows 10, customer satisfaction is higher than any previous version of windows. |
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Different Property - Details between Win7Pro and Enterprise - Capture.PNG (1/1) [106K]
On Fri, 27 Oct 2017 10:17:57 -0400, Wolf K wrote:
.... which doesn't show as an image here. IOW, the receiving client would have to be able to recognise the trick. This one doesn't. Which is why I've mentioned it as vendor specific and non standard. i.e. application specific. |
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