How to be Suck Cessful with Windows 10

On 12/09/2017 09:47 PM, T wrote:
On 12/09/2017 03:21 PM, Nil wrote:
On 09 Dec 2017, T wrote in
alt.comp.os.windows-10:

I go much faster without the "where's waldo" aspect
of 10 removed.

I have no idea what you're talking about. I can "go just as fast"
(whatever that means) on Windows 10 as I do with any other version.
Faster, for some things.

If you haven't been able to deal with its small leaning curve after all
this time, I'd say it's your problem, not Windows'.


I am talking about administering the thing.Â* I can find
things faster with Classic Shell.

The learning curve from 7 to Nein (w10) was enormous,
not "small".Â* I had customer in tears.Â* I was in stitches
laughing at some of the positioning of things.

I have managed to find everything I need to find without
Classic Shell, but it takes me a lot longer to get
to them.Â* And each YUGE update of Nein has to change a
bunch of stuff, like removing the Control Panel (I
can still get at it, but what a pain in the ass to
have to stop what I am doing and restore the functionality.)

My Virtual Machine of Nein deliberately does not have
Classic Shell installed as I want to see what my customer
see on stock machines.Â* I want to feel their pain, so to speak.


For instance, I find it a lot quicker to "winrnotepad" than
to dig through the tiles down to the "W" and find in the Windows
whatever menu.

Don't get me started on removing the Control Panel.

On 10 Dec 2017, T wrote in
alt.comp.os.windows-10:

For instance, I find it a lot quicker to "winrnotepad" than
to dig through the tiles down to the "W" and find in the Windows
whatever menu.

I find it just as quick to "winrnotepad" on Windows 10 as I did in
Windows 8, 7, Vista, and XP.

Don't get me started on removing the Control Panel.

It wasn't removed. You can invoke "winrcontrol" at any time, and
you can put it on the start menu or desktop or task bar if you like. I
put it in the right-click "Open with..." menu.

On 9/12/2017 10:29 PM, Scott wrote:

Place CD or DVD in computer CD drive.

I now only use USB to install Win 10 as most motherboard these days
support booting from USB.

You may be missing the point here :-)

The installation process is faster with USB.

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On Sun, 10 Dec 2017 02:55:35 -0500, Nil wrote:

On 10 Dec 2017, T wrote in
alt.comp.os.windows-10:

For instance, I find it a lot quicker to "winrnotepad" than
to dig through the tiles down to the "W" and find in the Windows
whatever menu.

I find it just as quick to "winrnotepad" on Windows 10 as I
did in Windows 8, 7, Vista, and XP.

Don't get me started on removing the Control Panel.

It wasn't removed. You can invoke "winrcontrol" at any time,
and you can put it on the start menu or desktop or task bar if
you like. I put it in the right-click "Open with..." menu.


Why? Control Panel isn't a file. Perhaps you meant the 'r-click on
the desktop' menu?

On 10 Dec 2017, mechanic wrote in
alt.comp.os.windows-10:

On Sun, 10 Dec 2017 02:55:35 -0500, Nil wrote:

On 10 Dec 2017, T wrote in
alt.comp.os.windows-10:

For instance, I find it a lot quicker to "winrnotepad" than
to dig through the tiles down to the "W" and find in the Windows
whatever menu.

I find it just as quick to "winrnotepad" on Windows 10 as I
did in Windows 8, 7, Vista, and XP.

Don't get me started on removing the Control Panel.

It wasn't removed. You can invoke "winrcontrol" at any time,
and you can put it on the start menu or desktop or task bar if
you like. I put it in the right-click "Open with..." menu.


Why? Control Panel isn't a file. Perhaps you meant the 'r-click on
the desktop' menu?

Oops - bad editing job! That last sentence should have been in the
earlier paragraph, something like this:

"I find it just as quick to "winrnotepad" on Windows 10 as I
did in Windows 8, 7, Vista, and XP. I also put Notepad in the right-
click "Open with..." menu."

mechanic wrote:
On Sun, 10 Dec 2017 02:55:35 -0500, Nil wrote:

On 10 Dec 2017, T wrote in
alt.comp.os.windows-10:

For instance, I find it a lot quicker to "winrnotepad" than
to dig through the tiles down to the "W" and find in the Windows
whatever menu.
I find it just as quick to "winrnotepad" on Windows 10 as I
did in Windows 8, 7, Vista, and XP.

Don't get me started on removing the Control Panel.
It wasn't removed. You can invoke "winrcontrol" at any time,
and you can put it on the start menu or desktop or task bar if
you like. I put it in the right-click "Open with..." menu.


Why? Control Panel isn't a file. Perhaps you meant the 'r-click on
the desktop' menu?

Control Panel is an executable (and a weird one at that,
look at it with a hex editor).

On the command line, it also accepts a "Named Panel"
as a parameter, allowing a particular control panel
to be opened. This is how we had stuff like the following,
offer a useful option in a past OS.

control userpasswords2

It's actually like that in WinXP too.

In WinXP, try Start : Eun : control.exe

C:\WINDOWS\system32\control.exe 8192 bytes

There's no end to the bizarre stuff. You can
do "control sysdm.cpl" or just run "sysdm.cpl" itself.
Other types are .msc files, like eventvwr.msc. And we're
expected to memorize these, for quick access (like from the
Run box in Windows 7, because the right click menu is so lame).

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/...ping-a-command

Paul

On Sun, 10 Dec 2017 20:21:04 +0800, "Mr. Man-wai Chang"
wrote:

On 9/12/2017 10:29 PM, Scott wrote:

Place CD or DVD in computer CD drive.

I now only use USB to install Win 10 as most motherboard these days
support booting from USB.

You may be missing the point here :-)

The installation process is faster with USB.

Is it your interpretation of the original post that OP wishes to
install Windows 10?

On Sat, 09 Dec 2017 12:30:07 -0600, Char Jackson
wrote:

On Sat, 09 Dec 2017 14:26:35 +0000, Scott
wrote:

On Fri, 08 Dec 2017 19:43:17 -0600, wrote:

To be Suck Cessful with Windows 10 requires the following.

1. A computer with Windows 10 installed
2. An install CD or DVD for Windows XP or Windows 7
3. A hour of your time.

Place CD or DVD in computer CD drive.
Turn on the computer.
Follow the instructions to install Windows XP or Windows 7.

Be sure to allow it to format the hard drive and remove everything on
it. (You may want to backup any personal data before you do this)_.

Once the computer installation is finished, you will be Suck Cessful
with Windows 10.

Enjoy using Windows 7 or Windows XP, (and being free from Windows 10).

Until your unsupported software becomes riddled with viruses, then
repeat the process.

If you're the kind of person who finds himself picking up malware on a
regular basis, a 'supported' OS isn't going to save you. You need to
examine your Internet behaviors.

I'm not. I attribute this to keeping the operating system and
antivirus software up to date. Are you suggesting that the support
offered by MS for 'supported' software has no effect at all on
security?

On 09/12/2017 01:43, wrote:
To be Suck Cessful with Windows 10 requires the following.


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On 8/12/2017 17:43, wrote:

To be Suck Cessful with Windows 10 requires the following.

1. A computer with Windows 10 installed
2. An install CD or DVD for Windows XP or Windows 7
3. A hour of your time.

Place CD or DVD in computer CD drive.
Turn on the computer.
Follow the instructions to install Windows XP or Windows 7.

Be sure to allow it to format the hard drive and remove everything on
it. (You may want to backup any personal data before you do this)_.

Once the computer installation is finished, you will be Suck Cessful
with Windows 10.

Enjoy using Windows 7 or Windows XP, (and being free from Windows 10).

Easier said than done. You're dealing with contemporary hardware
designed for W10 and old Windows OSes that are not. A bad
combination. Case in point: Friend of mine fried his 14" Thinkpad
E-series (Windows 7) by spilling a glass of ice tea on the keyboard.
He replaced it with a new E model, but running Windows 8 or 8.1. (This
was before 10.) He didn't like 8 and wanted W7 on it. Took it to a pro
shop to do this. They were unable to install W7 on it. It failed early
and repeatedly in the install: Lack of a SINGLE driver that was not
available for Windows 7. Ended up having to put 8 back on it and
install Classic Shell for a W7 look.

I've had similar failings with XP and new hardware. And of course
there's UEFI/GPT (XP doesn't support it; 32-bit version anyway),
motherboards that don't have a Legacy option to allow MBR
partitioning, and then there's Secure Boot and Quick Boot, etc.

The easiest way to be rid of W10 and all other Windows' issues is
to buy a Mac. Something a lot of my loyal, but frustrated Windows using
friends have been doing since Vista. In retrospect, they wonder why
they waited so long.

Stef

On Sun, 10 Dec 2017 19:33:11 +0000, Scott
wrote:

On Sat, 09 Dec 2017 12:30:07 -0600, Char Jackson
wrote:

On Sat, 09 Dec 2017 14:26:35 +0000, Scott
wrote:

On Fri, 08 Dec 2017 19:43:17 -0600, wrote:

To be Suck Cessful with Windows 10 requires the following.

1. A computer with Windows 10 installed
2. An install CD or DVD for Windows XP or Windows 7
3. A hour of your time.

Place CD or DVD in computer CD drive.
Turn on the computer.
Follow the instructions to install Windows XP or Windows 7.

Be sure to allow it to format the hard drive and remove everything on
it. (You may want to backup any personal data before you do this)_.

Once the computer installation is finished, you will be Suck Cessful
with Windows 10.

Enjoy using Windows 7 or Windows XP, (and being free from Windows 10).

Until your unsupported software becomes riddled with viruses, then
repeat the process.

If you're the kind of person who finds himself picking up malware on a
regular basis, a 'supported' OS isn't going to save you. You need to
examine your Internet behaviors.

I'm not. I attribute this to keeping the operating system and
antivirus software up to date. Are you suggesting that the support
offered by MS for 'supported' software has no effect at all on
security?

I'm suggesting it has limited effect. User behavior arguably has far
greater effect.

On Sun, 10 Dec 2017 14:02:42 -0600, Char Jackson
wrote:


On Sun, 10 Dec 2017 19:33:11 +0000, Scott
wrote:


On Sat, 09 Dec 2017 12:30:07 -0600, Char Jackson
wrote:


On Sat, 09 Dec 2017 14:26:35 +0000, Scott
wrote:

On Fri, 08 Dec 2017 19:43:17 -0600, wrote:

To be Suck Cessful with Windows 10 requires the following.

1. A computer with Windows 10 installed
2. An install CD or DVD for Windows XP or Windows 7
3. A hour of your time.

Place CD or DVD in computer CD drive.
Turn on the computer.
Follow the instructions to install Windows XP or Windows 7.

Be sure to allow it to format the hard drive and remove everything on
it. (You may want to backup any personal data before you do this)_.

Once the computer installation is finished, you will be Suck Cessful
with Windows 10.

Enjoy using Windows 7 or Windows XP, (and being free from Windows 10).

Until your unsupported software becomes riddled with viruses, then
repeat the process.

If you're the kind of person who finds himself picking up malware on a
regular basis, a 'supported' OS isn't going to save you. You need to
examine your Internet behaviors.


I'm not. I attribute this to keeping the operating system and
antivirus software up to date. Are you suggesting that the support
offered by MS for 'supported' software has no effect at all on
security?


I'm suggesting it has limited effect. User behavior arguably has far
greater effect.


Ditto!

On 12/10/2017 10:34 AM, Paul wrote:
mechanic wrote:
On Sun, 10 Dec 2017 02:55:35 -0500, Nil wrote:

On 10 Dec 2017, T wrote in
alt.comp.os.windows-10:
For instance, I find it a lot quicker to "winrnotepad" than
to dig through the tiles down to the "W" and find in the Windows
whatever menu.
I find it just as quick to "winrnotepad" on Windows 10 as I
did in Windows 8, 7, Vista, and XP.

On 7, I find notepad once and pin it to the start menu.
Most of the time, it is already there.


Don't get me started on removing the Control Panel.
It wasn't removed. You can invoke "winrcontrol" at any time,
and you can put it on the start menu or desktop or task bar if
you like. I put it in the right-click "Open with..." menu.


Why? Control Panel isn't a file. Perhaps you meant the 'r-click on
the desktop' menu?

Control Panel is an executable (and a weird one at that,
look at it with a hex editor).

On the command line, it also accepts a "Named Panel"
as a parameter, allowing a particular control panel
to be opened. This is how we had stuff like the following,
offer a useful option in a past OS.

Â*Â* control userpasswords2

It's actually like that in WinXP too.

In WinXP, try Start : Eun : control.exe

Â*Â* C:\WINDOWS\system32\control.exeÂ*Â*Â* 8192 bytes

There's no end to the bizarre stuff. You can
do "control sysdm.cpl" or just run "sysdm.cpl" itself.
Other types are .msc files, like eventvwr.msc. And we're
expected to memorize these, for quick access (like from the
Run box in Windows 7, because the right click menu is so lame).

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/...ping-a-command


Â* Paul


Wonderful workarounds.

What I was getting at was that these are not my computers.
Just how much time do I charge the customer for installing
work arounds before I get on to solving their problems.

All these work arounds are great for my system, but not
necessarily for others who just want a problem fixed.

And, if I introduce ANYTHING NEW. GOD HELP ME!

They love Classic Shell as they are typically very
use to W7 and if not, are not use to migrating around
those obnoxious tiles.

My own VM of 10 is bare bones so I can see what the customer
sees. But, I do have to come clean and disclose that I
did put services.msc and Power Off (a sweet utility) on the
desktop.

This is one of the reasons why I suffer with Windows
Explorer (not IE). Because I can not be introducing
things they don't understand just to help me out.
If it is quick and they don't see it, I somethings
will.

On 12/10/2017 12:07 PM, Ken Blake wrote:
I'm suggesting it has limited effect. User behavior arguably has far
greater effect.

Ditto!

I second that!

On 12/10/2017 11:44 AM, Good Guy wrote:
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