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  #76  
Old February 11th 16, 07:30 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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It happens that Pfsszxt formulated :
[...]
You doubt me? Then I challenge you. You're so sure --so go try to set
up an e-mail account which is resident in T'bird.


Sorry, your request doesn't make any sense.
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  #77  
Old February 11th 16, 07:32 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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Pfsszxt wrote in :

You doubt me? Then I challenge you. You're so sure --so go try
to set up an e-mail account which is resident in T'bird.


I wonder how many time this has been explained to you in the two
separate threads you started about it? I'm guessing its up to about a
dozen so far.

(hint: the scan-to-fax function will not work with the AOL program, but
it will with most other mail clients, including Thunderbird, Outlook
Express, and Outlook.)
  #78  
Old February 11th 16, 07:36 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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Pfsszxt wrote in :

I know that ---but several folks claimed I could use Thunderbird
as a resident-- e-mail client. It is an e-mail client at all --it
simply gets contents from e-mail clients one names.


Damn, you're good. I don't think I've ever seen a person who can make a
conversation eat its own tail as well as you can.
  #79  
Old February 11th 16, 07:38 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
J. P. Gilliver (John)
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In message , Pfsszxt writes:
On of dollars per month.

[]
You're missing the whole point here! What stated
this whole minagarie was my gripe: My new HP printer
won't do the "scan to computer" option unless I have
a "resident" -- that is: installed on my computer
--- e-mail client.


You do - Thunderbird. Since you're having some problem with the word,
just say "email PROGRAM". You just haven't set it up to work with your
AOL address. You can set up Thunderbird to send your AOL emails and to
receive your AOL emails.

I have such--AOL--but it won't
the printer won't recognize AOL ---.


No; for historical reasons, the AOL software you have is not an email
client, but a gateway to AOL's webmail interface. Webmail is a different
way to send and receive email: you can do email via a webmail interface,
or via an email client PROGRAM. Your printer software would recognise
Thunderbird (or most other email clients, sorry, PROGRAMmes), if set up
to work with an AOL account. "Setting up" an email client, sorry,
PROGRAM, to work with an AOL account, means you have to enter into its
settings somewhe

to send email through it (including linked from your scanner):
o your email address (presumably )
o name of AOL computer which handles outgoing mail from AOL customers
o your password for sending AOL email

to receive email through it:
o your email address
o name of AOL computer which handles incoming mail for AOL customers
o your password for receiving AOL email

and maybe one or two other settings. All the details of what you have to
put into Thunderbird to work with AOL are widely available, and linked
from at least one of the posts in this thread. Not being an AOL customer
I don't know what they are; the password may be the same for both, or it
may not, and the sending and receiving computers will probably have SMTP
and POP in their names, but I don't know.

HP folks said
I must have Outlook (A $150 client).
Folks here doubted me and this whole zoo has since
developed!


Yes, because we suspect that either the HP helpdesk were wrong (which is
possible), or that you didn't quite understand them (which, given your
difficulty in understanding what a client is [it DOESN'T have anything
to do with your email address, i. e. what comes after the "@" sign],
also seems quite likely).
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  #80  
Old February 11th 16, 07:41 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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Pfsszxt wrote:
On of dollars per month.

* ISP - virtually all ISPs provide at least one email
address for free with your account.

* Your own domain -- You can own a domain and
host it for a few dollars per month. You can then
set up a website or not. Either way, you'll usually
get lots of email addresses at your domain. (Caveat:
Some cheap hosts may not provide full email service,
and some sub out to sleazeware like gmail.)


You're missing the whole point here! What stated
this whole minagarie was my gripe: My new HP printer
won't do the "scan to computer" option unless I have
a "resident" -- that is: installed on my computer
--- e-mail client. I have such--AOL--but it won't
the printer won't recognize AOL ---. HP folks said
I must have Outlook (A $150 client).


Read carefully...

A O L I S NOT A R E S I D E N T E M A I L C L I E N T



  #81  
Old February 11th 16, 07:42 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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Pfsszxt wrote:
On 2/11/2016 9:19 AM, Stormin' Norman wrote:
On Thu, 11 Feb 2016 09:02:24 -0600, Pfsszxt wrote:

On 2/10/2016 10:25 AM, Stormin' Norman wrote:
On Wed, 10 Feb 2016 08:37:22 -0600, Pfsszxt
wrote:
On 2/9/2016 1:44 PM, Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
Pfsszxt wrote:

In another thread, I complained that my printer's "scan to
e-mail" feature wouldn't work, because, the printer company's
help folks said, my e-mail client wasn't completely installed
on the computer. Web based e-mail clients were not acceptable.
So what is a good, freeware hopefully, such client?
Outlook Express claims to be until one tries to download, then
one finds that a "donation" to a specified address is needed!


But that's the whole point. My e-mail account is not in T'bird.
T'bird just goes there to get mail. You cannot set up an account
that resided in T'bird.


Heh, heh........ good one, you got me to take you seriously for a
moment...... Off to the bit bucket with you!



you doubt me ---? Try it! Try to set up an account which resides in
T'bird.


I used to think lead was dense.


  #82  
Old February 11th 16, 07:51 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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In article , , Pfsszxt says...

On 2/10/2016 1:31 PM, Dave Doe wrote:
In article ,
, Pfsszxt says...

On 2/10/2016 1:07 PM, Dave Doe wrote:
In article ,
lid, Mike
Easter says...

Dave Doe wrote:
What make n' model is it?

Just that most of 'em have an SMTP setup,

This one wants to use the system's smtp client softwa

HP3830 p.54: "Choose Email as PDF or Email as JPEG to open your email
software with the scanned file as an attachment."

... where the/your 'email software' is NOT expected to be AOL's webmail
gizmo/stuff.

Ah, thanks. Well we're back to T.bird then. Should work just fine.

T'bird isn't a resident e-mail client. It fetches e-mail from
accounts one names or, for a price, will let you sign up to the client
"Gandhi" (spelling?).
Do you know anyone with a Thunderbird e-mail address?


Set up your AOL account on Thunderbird and give it a whirl.

AOL guff on that...
https://help.aol.com/articles/how-do...plications-to-
send-and-receive-my-aol-mail

Maybe a better third party article...
http://email.about.com/od/accessinga...P_Settings.htm

I think you'll like it! Web mail's a bit sucky really!

This whols thread has wandered far from my original gripe.
That is: my HP printer won't do it's "scan to e-mail" function
because it will not accept my resident AOL as acceptable.
The printer company's folks told me I had to have "Outlook"
for that function to work.

Since then, this thread has wandered everywhere!


Thunderbird will do what Outlook would do. They're both fully MAPI
compliant.

You setup your AOL e-mail account in Thunderbird (or any other email
account you have) and it'll work.

--
Duncan.
  #83  
Old February 11th 16, 07:51 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
J. P. Gilliver (John)
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In message , Pfsszxt writes:
[]
Here's a challeng. Get Outlook Express1!! :-). It doesn't exist now.


Oh yes it does; lots of people are still using it. You can't _get_ it
now, and if you could it wouldn't work under Windows 7 (which since
you're here I assume is what you've got), without a lot of fiddling.
Most people say it could never be got, it only came supplied with
Windows (though I have a vague feeling that some early versions might
have been downloadable, but that would have been back in the Windows 9x
days, or even Windows 3.1). But you're right to a first approximation -
you can't download it now, and if you could you wouldn't be able to use
it.

Any of those agents could receive and send email with your aol.com using
AOL's servers. None of that has anything to do with any such imaginary
thing as thunderbird.com.


I know that ---but several folks claimed I could use Thunderbird as a
resident--
e-mail client. It is an e-mail client at all --it simply gets contents
from e-mail


Yes, that's what a client does.

clients one names.

The things you "name" in that sentence - AOL, Virgin, PlusNet, Verizon,
and many others - aren't "email clients", they're email PROVIDERS. You
set up an email CLIENT [like Thunderbird, Outlook, Outlook Express (not
under W7), Turnpike, or many others] to send and receive emails from/to
an email ACCOUNT you have with an email PROVIDER [like AOL, Virgin,
etcetera].
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  #84  
Old February 11th 16, 08:16 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Dave Doe
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In article , , Pfsszxt says...

On 2/10/2016 1:31 PM, Dave Doe wrote:
In article ,
, Pfsszxt says...

On 2/10/2016 1:07 PM, Dave Doe wrote:
In article ,
lid, Mike
Easter says...

Dave Doe wrote:
What make n' model is it?

Just that most of 'em have an SMTP setup,

This one wants to use the system's smtp client softwa

HP3830 p.54: "Choose Email as PDF or Email as JPEG to open your email
software with the scanned file as an attachment."

... where the/your 'email software' is NOT expected to be AOL's webmail
gizmo/stuff.

Ah, thanks. Well we're back to T.bird then. Should work just fine.

T'bird isn't a resident e-mail client. It fetches e-mail from
accounts one names or, for a price, will let you sign up to the client
"Gandhi" (spelling?).
Do you know anyone with a Thunderbird e-mail address?


Set up your AOL account on Thunderbird and give it a whirl.

AOL guff on that...
https://help.aol.com/articles/how-do...plications-to-
send-and-receive-my-aol-mail

Maybe a better third party article...
http://email.about.com/od/accessinga...P_Settings.htm

I think you'll like it! Web mail's a bit sucky really!

This whols thread has wandered far from my original gripe.
That is: my HP printer won't do it's "scan to e-mail" function
because it will not accept my resident AOL as acceptable.
The printer company's folks told me I had to have "Outlook"
for that function to work.

Since then, this thread has wandered everywhere!


I hope this is very ****ing clear mate. These pics I've screenshotted
from HP.com website are about your printer model - self-explanitory...

http://1drv.ms/20OKtFe

As you can see, HP specifically mention Thunderbird as a working option.


And you have links above in previous reply on setting up your AOL e-mail
account in Thunderbird.

It will work!!!

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  #85  
Old February 11th 16, 08:16 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
J. P. Gilliver (John)
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In message , Dave
Doe writes:
In article , , Pfsszxt says...

[]
This whols thread has wandered far from my original gripe.
That is: my HP printer won't do it's "scan to e-mail" function
because it will not accept my resident AOL as acceptable.
The printer company's folks told me I had to have "Outlook"
for that function to work.

Since then, this thread has wandered everywhere!


Thunderbird will do what Outlook would do. They're both fully MAPI
compliant.

You setup your AOL e-mail account in Thunderbird (or any other email
account you have) and it'll work.

Oops - what Pfsszxt has is obviously catching. When Dave Doe said in
that last line "any other email account you have", he meant "any other
email CLIENT you have". So that last line should read

You set up your AOL e-mail *account* in Thunderbird (or any other email
*client* you have) and it'll work.
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`Where a calculator on the Eniac is equipped with 18,000 vacuum tubes and
weighs
30 tons, computers in the future may have only 1,000 vacuum tubes and perhaps
weigh 1.5 tons.' Popular Mechanics, March 1949 (quoted in Computing 1999-12-16)
  #87  
Old February 11th 16, 08:41 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Mike Easter
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Dave Doe wrote:
These pics I've screenshotted from HP.com website are about your
printer model - self-explanitory...


http://1drv.ms/20OKtFe

As you can see, HP specifically mention Thunderbird as a working option.


That HP answer is much more 'direct' to this thread's issue than the
similar pages in the 3830 manual which don't *name* 'proper' smtp agents
such as Tb or OL or improper webmail agents such as Yahoo.

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  #88  
Old February 11th 16, 10:22 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Mike Easter
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Stormin' Norman wrote:
There is just no way he could be as stupid as he is trying to come
across as being.


Sometimes the basis for someone being 'blind' to a concept is difficult
to determine or understand.

I like to work crossword puzzles and I'm pretty good at it.

VERY very often a puzzle has a clue/answer that I cannot 'see' for the
life of me. I'm not talking about an obscure trivia piece of
information; I'm talking about something that is in your 'roundhouse' of
knowledge, but the setter has 'obscured' from your recognition.

When that clue/answer is solved, it is a 'head-slapper', "Oooohhhh.'

"Now I see/ get it."

I wasn't seeing it before because I was 'stupid'. I wasn't seeing it
before because I wasn't 'opening up my mind/imagination right'.



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  #89  
Old February 11th 16, 10:26 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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Mike Easter wrote:
I wasn't seeing it before because I was 'stupid'. I wasn't seeing it
before because I wasn't 'opening up my mind/imagination right'.


Oops. Missing a 'not'.

I wasn't *not* seeing it before because I was stupid. I wasn't seeing
it before because I wasn't opening up my mind's eye properly.

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