Desktop E-mail client ?

Pfsszxt wrote:

cute but not funny. Neither you,nor anyone else, has a resident
e-mail account at Thunderbird. You can list other e-mail eccounts
and T'bird will fetch mail from them. But if one tries their "sign up
for an account" thing one gets referred to something named
"gandhi.net"

OK, one more time...

Of COURSE no one has an account at Thunderbird. That's because Thunderbird
is a resident email CLIENT not a SERVER, a concept which you seem unwilling
or unable to grasp even though your OP was asking about a resident client.

|T'bird.... I think you'll find
| that it isn't even an e-mail client but rather only gets e-mail
| from other accounts you name.
|

You just defined "email client":

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Email_client

Pfsszxt wrote:
I was told by HP folks that it would ONLY work with Outlook (which
it now seems is the only available resident e-mail client (since AOL
foe some reason is not recognized)

Wrong. Again. Here's a list of email clients. Please note that AOL is not
among them.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compar..._email_clients

Pfsszxt wrote:
..
But prove me an ignorant fool!

You've been doing that yourself for sometime now.

On Sun, 14 Feb 2016 13:56:35 -0500, "Mayayana"
wrote:

|T'bird.... I think you'll find
| that it isn't even an e-mail client but rather only gets e-mail
| from other accounts you name.
|

You just defined "email client":

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Email_client




This guy is playing all of you. He is probably about 16 years old and
is just laughing his ass off at how many people keep sticking their
faces into his spinning fan.

I am amazed at how gullible so many people in this forum are.

Pfsszxt wrote:
I was told by HP folks that it would ONLY work with Outlook

MAPI: wp Messaging Application Programming Interface (MAPI) is a
messaging architecture and a Component Object Model based API for
Microsoft Windows. MAPI allows client programs to become (e-mail)
messaging-enabled, -aware, or -based by calling MAPI subsystem routines
that interface with certain messaging servers. While MAPI is designed to
be independent of the protocol, it is usually used with MAPI/RPC, the
proprietary protocol that Microsoft Outlook uses to communicate with
Microsoft Exchange.

OL is very MAPI compliant.

Tb is sorta but not _very_ MAPI compliant.

AOL software is not MAPI compliant at all.

Your understanding of what the HP folk said is not exactly the correct
info. Your HP can scan to your Tb if you would make Tb the default
client with your Win7 configuration. However, that would change your
default client 'away from' that client being AOL's software.

(since AOL foe some reason is not recognized)

AOL will handle only two types of mail initiations: mailto and send
mail. The problem is that HP wants a MAPI call. Even tho' Tb is only a
'partial' MAPI client, it can do the job required by HP's 'I want to
make an attachment to an email initiated by the default email client'.
OL could also handle that MAPI call.

AOL software cannot perform that job with its limited protocol handling.


--
Mike Easter

Brian wrote:
This guy is playing all of you. He is probably about 16 years old and
is just laughing his ass off at how many people keep sticking their
faces into his spinning fan.

I am amazed at how gullible so many people in this forum are.

I believe that he is confused/blinded by his (lack of) 'understanding'
of how AOL mail works.

I have a friend who is similarly confused by how email clients and
webmail actually work, such as the difference between what is happening
when he types into his Tb client vs when he types into gmail's webmail.

In both cases he is typing into something he sees on his screen, so
what's the difference? It is 'right there'.

Add to that mix the similarities and differences that AOL has managed to
blend together in its veg-o-matic and 'this' AOL user can't see the
forest for the trees.

To me, his 'guilt' extends to the point that he COULD get it if he would
("you're not trying hard enough") but since he SHOULD get it, then many
here assume that he *doesn't want to* get it, therefore it is all
intentional, a game, a troll.

I say those many should open their minds to the other possibilities.

--
Mike Easter

Pfsszxt wrote:
Neither you,nor anyone else, has a resident e-mail account at
Thunderbird.

You should not use the term 'resident email account' because that term
does not have a definition which is equal for all people involved in
this thread/conversation. Your understanding of the term is not
correct, so there can be no successful communication from you or from
anyone else to you using that term.

One way is to only use terms like domain name, ie aol.com or mailbox, ie
ie email address.

You can list other e-mail eccounts and T'bird will fetch mail from
them.

Correct.

But if one tries their "sign up for an account" thing one gets
referred to something named "gandhi.net"

Actually gandi.net.

Tb provides that gandi.net 'opportunity' (option) to create a new email
address/account when you proceed to set up a new Tb account.

You should understand better than you do how to set up a new Tb account
because you have already set up a new aioe.org usenet/news account.
However, that process is different from a new mail account because it is
not associated with the gandi.net option.

When you start to setup a Tb account, two of the choices are mail or
news. You have already setup a news account at such as news.aioe.org.

You could alternatively/similarly tell Tb you want to set up a mail
account, and then when the gandi.net option arises, you can click at the
bottom and say *instead* that you are going to use an existing account
if you wanted to/ so you can/ use your existing aol.com address.

Don't let the gandi.net confuse you between how AOL works with your AOL
software and your aol.com address vs how Tb would work with the Tb
software *instead* AND your *existing* aol.com address; not gandi.net.
You have no need for gandi.net.

I believe that the gandi.net thing is a promotional involving your
getting a temporarily free domain name from gandi hosting for one year;
probably Tb got money from gandi because someone at Tb tho't the
promotional freebie would be 'value added' for the Tb user and gandi
believed that it was good promotion for its name/domain business.

This old article was 2011
http://www.gandi.net/news/en/2012-11...and_gandi_too/
Thunderbird, .ME, and Gandi too!

Undated at support.moz
https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/new-email-address New Email Address

I've never seen a Tb with the Hover option.

--
Mike Easter

On 11/02/2016 2:38 PM, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
In message , Pfsszxt writes:
On of dollars per month.
[]
You're missing the whole point here! What stated
this whole minagarie was my gripe: My new HP printer
won't do the "scan to computer" option unless I have
a "resident" -- that is: installed on my computer
--- e-mail client.

You do - Thunderbird. Since you're having some problem with the word,
just say "email PROGRAM". You just haven't set it up to work with your
AOL address. You can set up Thunderbird to send your AOL emails and to
receive your AOL emails.

OMG, I haven't seen this level of newb in ages! And so argumentative,
why is anyone trying to help this jerk?

Yousuf Khan

In article , , Pfsszxt says...

On 2/14/2016 11:01 AM, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:

This joke has worn completely thin, unless you really are as clueless as
you pretend to be. An email client is software that handles email, NOT a
company that provides email services. Thus you cannot "get an account"
telephones, and wouldn't be able to use them with any other company.

Your having ignored the above makes me even more convinced you're just
trolling, for some reason that escapes me.

I'm too old for name playing. And don't have the time nor the
inclination to do so.
What I am saying, truthfully, is that no one can get a "resident"
e-mail account at/on Thunderbird. It will fetch mail from other
accounts one names . But, go try to open an account, you're so sure!
Click "sign up for an account" and see what you get!!! That doesn't
require much effort. Or would you prefer not to know the truth?

*STOP* barking up the wrong tree!

Put your AOL account in Thunderbird - you're done! You can now 'scan to
e-mail'.

--
Duncan.

Mike Easter wrote in
:

To me, his 'guilt' extends to the point that he COULD get it if he
would ("you're not trying hard enough") but since he SHOULD get
it, then many here assume that he *doesn't want to* get it,
therefore it is all intentional, a game, a troll.

I say those many should open their minds to the other
possibilities.

That might be a fair position to take if this weren't the umteenth time
the OP has pulled the same stunt. He has a history here going back some
years. Same M.O. cast into various scenarios, but the end result is
always the same.

In message , Pfsszxt writes:
[]
I'm too old for name playing. And don't have the time nor the
inclination to do so.
What I am saying, truthfully, is that no one can get a "resident"
e-mail account at/on Thunderbird. It will fetch mail from other
accounts one names . But, go try to open an account, you're so sure!
Click "sign up for an account" and see what you get!!! That doesn't
require much effort. Or would you prefer not to know the truth?

You are obsessed with "getting an account at/on Thunderbird". No-one is
suggesting you do that. All we are saying is set up YOUR EXISTING aol
account, in Thunderbird, and make that your default email METHOD rather
than the AOL software. (And turn down the offer of anything to do with
gandi.)
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

Never make the same mistake twice...there are so many new ones to make!

On 2/12/2016 1:05 PM, Whomever wrote:
Pfsszxt wrote:

I am indeed old. But fo those who are convinced
that I'm wrong, I dare you:
send me an e-mail with a return address :
whomever@Thunderbird.***
I dare you.

You are a lot more than "old." You are wrong, you are stupid and a troll.

Here ya go. Read my address.

Is he talking about this s/w?

https://help.aol.com/articles/Settin...nt-for-Windows

On 2/14/2016 11:47 PM, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
In message , Pfsszxt writes:
[]
I'm too old for name playing. And don't have the time nor the
inclination to do so.
What I am saying, truthfully, is that no one can get a "resident"
e-mail account at/on Thunderbird. It will fetch mail from other
accounts one names . But, go try to open an account, you're so sure!
Click "sign up for an account" and see what you get!!! That doesn't
require much effort. Or would you prefer not to know the truth?

You are obsessed with "getting an account at/on Thunderbird". No-one is
suggesting you do that. All we are saying is set up YOUR EXISTING aol
account, in Thunderbird, and make that your default email METHOD rather
than the AOL software. (And turn down the offer of anything to do with
gandi.)

Good answer. Maybe this approach will help?

http://pop2imap.com/aol_thunderbird.php

Mike S wrote:
Is he talking about this s/w?

https://help.aol.com/articles/Settin...nt-for-Windows

Yes. That is v.9.6 of the 'AOL Desktop' which the OP says he has.

Also, this time when I looked over the screenshots I noticed that the
AOL ware claims to be able to be used for other accounts than AOL's.
Earlier I had looked around for that info and didn't find it.

Graphic:
https://s.aolcdn.com/os/help/AOLDesk...tprograms3.JPG
AOL Desktop gives you one-click access to your AOL email. Plus you
can automatically access your other email accounts all in one place,
even if they're not with AOL.



--
Mike Easter