How many times?

On 5/16/2018 6:05 AM, Doomsdrzej wrote:

I find that tablets, in general, strip computing of the most
necessary element (a keyboard)

There are several tablets that come with a keyboard/case as mine did.
And there are aftermarket keyboard/cases available for many popular
models that don't come with one.

and its most essential (power) in favour of supposed convenience.

Computing power is decreased in favor of more battery time for many
tablets. Having 10+ hours operating time on my W10 tablet is a
reasonable trade off IMO. YMMV.

For a teacher, I'm sure that the iPad is fantastic but I find it
fairly cumbersome in comparison to a traditional laptop.

And then there's the laptops that bend around to become a tablet. But if
you think the iPad is cumbersome, you would likely think this tablet
configuration a monster.

nospam wrote:
In article , Ed Cryer
wrote:

Well then, Ed (someone might ask), why not use one of your iPads?
Ed: Because they can't take this package;
https://community.dur.ac.uk/p.j.hesl...ware/Diogenes/
and I teach Classics online.

ask the author to write an ios and/or android version, although given
that it's written in perl (!!) and that the author doesn't give a ****
about it actually working correctly (or at all), that isn't likely to
happen any time soon.

meanwhile, this ios app might be useful, at least according to one of
the comments:
https://itunes.apple.com/gb/app/attikos/id522497233?mt=8
A great little app. I've long wanted Diogenes and TLG on my iPad.
Well, this isn't quite that, but works in much the same way, though
on a limited number of texts. And we have Middle Liddell as well as
LSJ. Fantastic!

It's free but not as good as this;
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/anci...463233342?mt=8
and add one for Latin too;

https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/spqr.../id407340562?m
t=8

i just did a quick search for options on ios. i haven't tried any of
them. if there's enough of a demand, there will be apps.

But both of those together aren't a patch on Peter Heslin's Diogenes bundle.
He's now PhD professor at Durham University, and writing Diogenes got
him there, together with donating it to the world for free.
It can do myriads of things that the others can't.

i'm sure it can, except that he should stick to what he does well, and
that is definitely *not* software.

in particular:
https://community.dur.ac.uk/p.j.heslin/Software/Diogenes/issues.php
On Linux, Diogenes expects the filenames to be lowercase. If yours
are uppercase, rename them (there are tools that can help with this).

in other words, he is too lazy to convert everything internally to
lower case and leave the files as they are and/or do a case-insensitive
comparison.

any software that forces users to rename their files just in order for
it to work is by definition, crap. it's also an insult to users.

as i said, he doesn't give a ****.


Have you ever met someone who jumps to quick conclusions? And then,
because those conclusions depart from the path of logic, examined those
conclusions to try and establish what that person's prejudices are?

Well, I have. Many times. I'm trained for it.
And you have much in common with Good Guy. He goes gaga when someone
criticises Win10; and you do similar for Apple computers.

Why is that? I don't do that. Very few do.

Ed

In article , Ed Cryer
wrote:

But both of those together aren't a patch on Peter Heslin's Diogenes
bundle.
He's now PhD professor at Durham University, and writing Diogenes got
him there, together with donating it to the world for free.
It can do myriads of things that the others can't.

i'm sure it can, except that he should stick to what he does well, and
that is definitely *not* software.

in particular:
https://community.dur.ac.uk/p.j.heslin/Software/Diogenes/issues.php
On Linux, Diogenes expects the filenames to be lowercase. If yours
are uppercase, rename them (there are tools that can help with this).

in other words, he is too lazy to convert everything internally to
lower case and leave the files as they are and/or do a case-insensitive
comparison.

any software that forces users to rename their files just in order for
it to work is by definition, crap. it's also an insult to users.

as i said, he doesn't give a ****.


Have you ever met someone who jumps to quick conclusions? And then,
because those conclusions depart from the path of logic, examined those
conclusions to try and establish what that person's prejudices are?

Well, I have. Many times. I'm trained for it.
And you have much in common with Good Guy. He goes gaga when someone
criticises Win10; and you do similar for Apple computers.

apparently your training is limited, since that has absolutely nothing
whatsoever to do with what i wrote.

in this case, i'm criticizing incredibly poorly written software. it
has nothing to do with apple at all.

since there's no competition for the app, he has zero motivation to fix
any of its problems (assuming he even knows how, which is in doubt).
not that motivation should be required to do a good job. he simply
doesn't care.

forcing a user to rename files is absurd, and it's something that could
happen on mac and even windows, something he doesn't even realize.

as for 'going gaga', i take issue when people criticize *anything*
based on demonstrably false information or sheer ignorance, regardless
of what it is or what company it is. it might be apple or it might be
microsoft, google, facebook or many other companies.

nospam wrote:
In article , Ed Cryer
wrote:

But both of those together aren't a patch on Peter Heslin's Diogenes
bundle.
He's now PhD professor at Durham University, and writing Diogenes got
him there, together with donating it to the world for free.
It can do myriads of things that the others can't.

i'm sure it can, except that he should stick to what he does well, and
that is definitely *not* software.

in particular:
https://community.dur.ac.uk/p.j.heslin/Software/Diogenes/issues.php
On Linux, Diogenes expects the filenames to be lowercase. If yours
are uppercase, rename them (there are tools that can help with this).

in other words, he is too lazy to convert everything internally to
lower case and leave the files as they are and/or do a case-insensitive
comparison.

any software that forces users to rename their files just in order for
it to work is by definition, crap. it's also an insult to users.

as i said, he doesn't give a ****.


Have you ever met someone who jumps to quick conclusions? And then,
because those conclusions depart from the path of logic, examined those
conclusions to try and establish what that person's prejudices are?

Well, I have. Many times. I'm trained for it.
And you have much in common with Good Guy. He goes gaga when someone
criticises Win10; and you do similar for Apple computers.

apparently your training is limited, since that has absolutely nothing
whatsoever to do with what i wrote.

in this case, i'm criticizing incredibly poorly written software. it
has nothing to do with apple at all.

since there's no competition for the app, he has zero motivation to fix
any of its problems (assuming he even knows how, which is in doubt).
not that motivation should be required to do a good job. he simply
doesn't care.

forcing a user to rename files is absurd, and it's something that could
happen on mac and even windows, something he doesn't even realize.

as for 'going gaga', i take issue when people criticize *anything*
based on demonstrably false information or sheer ignorance, regardless
of what it is or what company it is. it might be apple or it might be
microsoft, google, facebook or many other companies.


Peter is a professor. He deals mostly with postgrad students, ones going
for an MA or PhD. But he takes undergrad classes in Greek philosophy.
They're 3rd year students on their specialist subject choice. They
gather with him and analyse Plato's Republic; in Greek, in the context
of 4th c BC Athens, what is justice? They have to be able to understand
some of the most beautiful classical Greek ever written, pick their way
through formal reason and logic, place it into the context of today's
philosophy of politics and epistemology.

Peter had his younger days, learning all that; oh, and by the way, he
also taught himself to program computers.

Do you want to discuss ancient Greek? Maybe those complex verb conjugations?
Or do you want to discuss "Beauty, Truth and Justice"?
Or, maybe look into Vergil's Latin?

No, you take him to task over a few bugs in his Perl; and hold that up
to the world to mock.

You are myopic.

Ed

In article , Ed Cryer
wrote:

Peter is a professor. He deals mostly with postgrad students, ones going
for an MA or PhD. But he takes undergrad classes in Greek philosophy.

i.e., not a software developer.

They're 3rd year students on their specialist subject choice. They
gather with him and analyse Plato's Republic; in Greek, in the context
of 4th c BC Athens, what is justice? They have to be able to understand
some of the most beautiful classical Greek ever written, pick their way
through formal reason and logic, place it into the context of today's
philosophy of politics and epistemology.

that was never in dispute.

Peter had his younger days, learning all that; oh, and by the way, he
also taught himself to program computers.

not if he's writing apps in perl, he didn't.

the mere fact he chose perl shows that he knows next to nothing about
writing apps.

Do you want to discuss ancient Greek? Maybe those complex verb conjugations?
Or do you want to discuss "Beauty, Truth and Justice"?
Or, maybe look into Vergil's Latin?

No, you take him to task over a few bugs in his Perl; and hold that up
to the world to mock.

i take him to task for writing a ****ty app with significant problems.
it's much more than 'a few bugs'. for linux users, it's not usable.

as i said, forcing users to rename files so that the app can work is a
fairly significant ****up.

imagine if microsoft office only worked with lower case file names. to
open or save a file with mixed or upper case letters, you have to
rename them. nobody would tolerate that.

a better example, one which actually exists today, are apps that don't
properly support unicode, some of which will result in data loss.

nospam wrote:
In article , Ed Cryer
wrote:

Peter is a professor. He deals mostly with postgrad students, ones going
for an MA or PhD. But he takes undergrad classes in Greek philosophy.

i.e., not a software developer.

They're 3rd year students on their specialist subject choice. They
gather with him and analyse Plato's Republic; in Greek, in the context
of 4th c BC Athens, what is justice? They have to be able to understand
some of the most beautiful classical Greek ever written, pick their way
through formal reason and logic, place it into the context of today's
philosophy of politics and epistemology.

that was never in dispute.

Peter had his younger days, learning all that; oh, and by the way, he
also taught himself to program computers.

not if he's writing apps in perl, he didn't.

the mere fact he chose perl shows that he knows next to nothing about
writing apps.

Do you want to discuss ancient Greek? Maybe those complex verb conjugations?
Or do you want to discuss "Beauty, Truth and Justice"?
Or, maybe look into Vergil's Latin?

No, you take him to task over a few bugs in his Perl; and hold that up
to the world to mock.

i take him to task for writing a ****ty app with significant problems.
it's much more than 'a few bugs'. for linux users, it's not usable.

as i said, forcing users to rename files so that the app can work is a
fairly significant ****up.

imagine if microsoft office only worked with lower case file names. to
open or save a file with mixed or upper case letters, you have to
rename them. nobody would tolerate that.

a better example, one which actually exists today, are apps that don't
properly support unicode, some of which will result in data loss.


Another solution is; don't run it on Linux, run it under Windows!!!

Ed