How many times?

I have tried to update my tablet. Knowing that there was a storage
space problem I uninstalled all user programs from the C: drive and had
17.1 GB free.

I have tried to install 1803 at least three time, from the OS upgrade
page, and they all failed.

I it from the MS Upgrade assistant and it failed.

Here are some of the error codes
windows 10 1803 failure to install 0xc1900101

windows 10 failed install attempt 1803 0x800704c7
windows 10 failed install attempt 1803 0x80240034
windows 10 failed install attempt 1803 (2) 0x80240034

update assistant
feature update windows 10 failed install attempt 1803

I can find nothing to cause any errors

The download goes to completion. The last install went to the first
reboot and failed. and said it was reinstalling the old Version I
believe it was in the 70% complete but not sure. The last revert there
was an error code I had never seen before, but it disappeared before I
could write it down.

My question is how many failures has to occur befor MS gives up and says
it can not install the update on a computer. After each revert to the
old OS the update says it is downloading 1803, so left to it own devices
it would continue to loop; download, install, fail, revert, redownload.


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On 5/14/2018 9:52 PM, Good Guy wrote:
On 15/05/2018 02:13, Keith Nuttle wrote:
I have tried to update my tablet.Â* Knowing that thereÂ* was a storage
space problem I uninstalled all user programs from the C: drive and
had 17.1 GB free.

I have tried to install 1803 at least three time, from the OS upgrade
page, and they all failed.

I it from the MS Upgrade assistant and it failed.

Here are some of the error codes
windows 10 1803 failure to install 0xc1900101

windows 10 failed install attempt 1803 0x800704c7
windows 10 failed install attempt 1803 0x80240034
windows 10 failed install attempt 1803 (2)Â* 0x80240034

update assistant
feature update windows 10 failed install attempt 1803

I can find nothing to cause any errors

The download goes to completion.Â* The last install went to the first
reboot and failed. and said it was reinstalling the old Version I
believe it was in the 70% complete but not sure.Â* The last revert
there was an error code I had never seen before, but it disappeared
before I could write it down.

My question is how many failures has to occur befor MS gives up and
says it can not install the update on a computer.Â* After each revert
to the old OS the update says it is downloading 1803, so left to it
own devices it would continue to loop; download, install, fail,
revert, redownload.



If it is a 64 bit version then you need at least 20GB to install the OS
(it is 16GB for 32 bit version) and you also need the same amount for
backup of the old version.

Personally, I wouldn't bother to waste time on that toy because you
can't do anything useful on it.

You either need to do a clean install or insert a new HD with at least
500GB space.Â* I am assuming your device can take 500GB HD.

You also need to make sure you have at least 4GB ram.Â* The processor
also needs to be a decent quality speed.

Microsoft's minimum spec is a complete joke so just ignore it.

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It is a 32 bit version. How can you stop it looping?




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In article ,
says...
My question is how many failures has to occur befor MS gives up and says
it can not install the update on a computer.


I don't think MS pays attention to failures. My laptop
refuses to update but MS doggedly keeps trying and trying.
I (foolishly) thought that perhaps checking the box about
making things better would enable some kind of useful
feedback to MS but either it doesn't or nobody's paying
attention.

On 05/14/2018 09:13 PM, Keith Nuttle wrote:
I have tried to update my tablet.Â* Knowing that thereÂ* was a storage
space problem I uninstalled all user programs from the C: drive and had
17.1 GB free.

I have tried to install 1803 at least three time, from the OS upgrade
page, and they all failed.

I it from the MS Upgrade assistant and it failed.

Here are some of the error codes
windows 10 1803 failure to install 0xc1900101

windows 10 failed install attempt 1803 0x800704c7
windows 10 failed install attempt 1803 0x80240034
windows 10 failed install attempt 1803 (2)Â* 0x80240034

update assistant
feature update windows 10 failed install attempt 1803

I can find nothing to cause any errors

The download goes to completion.Â* The last install went to the first
reboot and failed. and said it was reinstalling the old Version I
believe it was in the 70% complete but not sure.Â* The last revert there
was an error code I had never seen before, but it disappeared before I
could write it down.

My question is how many failures has to occur befor MS gives up and says
it can not install the update on a computer.Â* After each revert to the
old OS the update says it is downloading 1803, so left to it own devices
it would continue to loop; download, install, fail, revert, redownload.


You might want to look at this article.
https://www.windowscentral.com/windo...lems-and-fixes
They had a ton of error codes and how to fixes. The only complaint I
see is that a lot of the "if it doesn't work" suggestions are to
download the iso and totally reload.

Keith Nuttle wrote:
I have tried to update my tablet.Â* Knowing that thereÂ* was a storage
space problem I uninstalled all user programs from the C: drive and had
17.1 GB free.

I have tried to install 1803 at least three time, from the OS upgrade
page, and they all failed.

I it from the MS Upgrade assistant and it failed.

Here are some of the error codes
windows 10 1803 failure to install 0xc1900101

windows 10 failed install attempt 1803 0x800704c7
windows 10 failed install attempt 1803 0x80240034
windows 10 failed install attempt 1803 (2)Â* 0x80240034

update assistant
feature update windows 10 failed install attempt 1803

I can find nothing to cause any errors

The download goes to completion.Â* The last install went to the first
reboot and failed. and said it was reinstalling the old Version I
believe it was in the 70% complete but not sure.Â* The last revert there
was an error code I had never seen before, but it disappeared before I
could write it down.

My question is how many failures has to occur befor MS gives up and says
it can not install the update on a computer.Â* After each revert to the
old OS the update says it is downloading 1803, so left to it own devices
it would continue to loop; download, install, fail, revert, redownload.



My tablet is happy with 1709. And (contrary to what GG says) it is
extremely useful. I know yours is too from previous conversations.
They run a condensed version of Windows. And mine is now saying that
it's up to date, which seems to imply that it doesn't want or need 1803.

I'd be happy to have stayed with a much earlier Win10 version. The
tablet is a kind of portable set of language aids, dictionaries & the
like. With the addition of web-browser, email etc. I never use it for
things like video-editing or such.

Do you really want 1803? You could try two things;
1. Clear 20 GB of memory.
2. Try plugging a portable HD or thumb-drive in.

Ed

On 5/15/2018 7:40 AM, Ed Cryer wrote:
Do you really want 1803? You could try two things;
1. Clear 20 GB of memory.
2. Try plugging a portable HD or thumb-drive in.
You remember correctly that I use my tablet as a PDA "remember that
term" and brief case for meetings.

I have cleared the the memory and have and had over 17GB on last attempt
to install. I also had over 25GB on the SD Card in the tablet

I have disabled the auto up date in sevices and will see if that works.

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On 5/15/2018 7:40 AM, Ed Cryer wrote:
Keith Nuttle wrote:
I have tried to update my tablet.Â* Knowing that thereÂ* was a storage
space problem I uninstalled all user programs from the C: drive and
had 17.1 GB free.

I have tried to install 1803 at least three time, from the OS upgrade
page, and they all failed.

I it from the MS Upgrade assistant and it failed.

Here are some of the error codes
windows 10 1803 failure to install 0xc1900101

windows 10 failed install attempt 1803 0x800704c7
windows 10 failed install attempt 1803 0x80240034
windows 10 failed install attempt 1803 (2)Â* 0x80240034

update assistant
feature update windows 10 failed install attempt 1803

I can find nothing to cause any errors

The download goes to completion.Â* The last install went to the first
reboot and failed. and said it was reinstalling the old Version I
believe it was in the 70% complete but not sure.Â* The last revert
there was an error code I had never seen before, but it disappeared
before I could write it down.

My question is how many failures has to occur befor MS gives up and
says it can not install the update on a computer.Â* After each revert
to the old OS the update says it is downloading 1803, so left to it
own devices it would continue to loop; download, install, fail,
revert, redownload.



My tablet is happy with 1709. And (contrary to what GG says) it is
extremely useful. I know yours is too from previous conversations.
They run a condensed version of Windows. And mine is now saying that
it's up to date, which seems to imply that it doesn't want or need 1803.

I'd be happy to have stayed with a much earlier Win10 version. The
tablet is a kind of portable set of language aids, dictionaries & the
like. With the addition of web-browser, email etc. I never use it for
things like video-editing or such.

Do you really want 1803? You could try two things;
1. Clear 20 GB of memory.
2. Try plugging a portable HD or thumb-drive in.

Ed


Ed: How are you handling the automatic updates on your tablet?

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Ed Cryer wrote:

My tablet is happy with 1709.

Mine too.

And (contrary to what GG says) it
is extremely useful. I know yours is too from previous
conversations.

Depends on what I want to do of course but I agree, most of the
time My 10" Acer elcheapo (US$129) tablet is quite useful.

They run a condensed version of Windows. And mine is now saying
that it's up to date, which seems to imply that it doesn't want
or need 1803.

My tablet reports build 16299.431. It too says it is up to date
and was last checked earlier this morning. It is likely because
of the Atom processor that MS no longer supports. It still gets
security updates though.

I never use it for things like video-editing or such.

My cable company, besides the physical cable, also streams my
channels online. My tablet handles the video fine. Certainly very
handy for not missing any content during a potty break...

Keith Nuttle wrote:
On 5/15/2018 7:40 AM, Ed Cryer wrote:
Keith Nuttle wrote:
I have tried to update my tablet.Â* Knowing that thereÂ* was a storage
space problem I uninstalled all user programs from the C: drive and
had 17.1 GB free.

I have tried to install 1803 at least three time, from the OS upgrade
page, and they all failed.

I it from the MS Upgrade assistant and it failed.

Here are some of the error codes
windows 10 1803 failure to install 0xc1900101

windows 10 failed install attempt 1803 0x800704c7
windows 10 failed install attempt 1803 0x80240034
windows 10 failed install attempt 1803 (2)Â* 0x80240034

update assistant
feature update windows 10 failed install attempt 1803

I can find nothing to cause any errors

The download goes to completion.Â* The last install went to the first
reboot and failed. and said it was reinstalling the old Version I
believe it was in the 70% complete but not sure.Â* The last revert
there was an error code I had never seen before, but it disappeared
before I could write it down.

My question is how many failures has to occur befor MS gives up and
says it can not install the update on a computer.Â* After each revert
to the old OS the update says it is downloading 1803, so left to it
own devices it would continue to loop; download, install, fail,
revert, redownload.



My tablet is happy with 1709. And (contrary to what GG says) it is
extremely useful. I know yours is too from previous conversations.
They run a condensed version of Windows. And mine is now saying that
it's up to date, which seems to imply that it doesn't want or need 1803.

I'd be happy to have stayed with a much earlier Win10 version. The
tablet is a kind of portable set of language aids, dictionaries & the
like. With the addition of web-browser, email etc. I never use it for
things like video-editing or such.

Do you really want 1803? You could try two things;
1. Clear 20 GB of memory.
2. Try plugging a portable HD or thumb-drive in.

Ed


Ed:Â* How are you handling the automatic updates on your tablet?


Switched on. But the tablet itself is off for 99.999% of the time.
I only use it out of range of home wifi; and very infrequently.
About once every three months I switch it on in the house here and let
it look for whatever updates are waiting for it.

Ed

Keith Nuttle wrote:
On 5/15/2018 7:40 AM, Ed Cryer wrote:
Do you really want 1803? You could try two things;
1. Clear 20 GB of memory.
2. Try plugging a portable HD or thumb-drive in.
You remember correctly that I use my tablet as a PDA "remember that
term" and brief case for meetings.

I have cleared the the memory and have and had over 17GB on last attempt
to install.Â* I also had over 25GB on the SD Card in the tablet

I have disabled the auto up date in sevices and will see if that works.


Is an iPad a toy? I think not.
Take a standard, jail-broken, 9.7" screen, quadcore, 32GB flash memory,
well engineered gen 4.
Compare it with my Linx 10;
https://www.techradar.com/reviews/pc...1291585/review

My verdict; it compares favourably with all the above points; slightly
larger screen too, and (believe me) it has something of the Apple high
quality look about it. I've had it for several years, and there's no
sign of any loosening or coming-undone around it.
Well then, Ed (someone might ask), why not use one of your iPads?
Ed: Because they can't take this package;
https://community.dur.ac.uk/p.j.hesl...ware/Diogenes/
and I teach Classics online.

Ed

On Wed, 16 May 2018 13:27:36 +0100, Ed Cryer
wrote:

Keith Nuttle wrote:
On 5/15/2018 7:40 AM, Ed Cryer wrote:
Do you really want 1803? You could try two things;
1. Clear 20 GB of memory.
2. Try plugging a portable HD or thumb-drive in.
You remember correctly that I use my tablet as a PDA "remember that
term" and brief case for meetings.

I have cleared the the memory and have and had over 17GB on last attempt
to install.* I also had over 25GB on the SD Card in the tablet

I have disabled the auto up date in sevices and will see if that works.


Is an iPad a toy? I think not.
Take a standard, jail-broken, 9.7" screen, quadcore, 32GB flash memory,
well engineered gen 4.
Compare it with my Linx 10;
https://www.techradar.com/reviews/pc...1291585/review

My verdict; it compares favourably with all the above points; slightly
larger screen too, and (believe me) it has something of the Apple high
quality look about it. I've had it for several years, and there's no
sign of any loosening or coming-undone around it.
Well then, Ed (someone might ask), why not use one of your iPads?
Ed: Because they can't take this package;
https://community.dur.ac.uk/p.j.hesl...ware/Diogenes/
and I teach Classics online.

I have an ASUS VivoTab Pro tablet running Windows 10 and I find it
shockingly useless. Mind you, I wouldn't use an iPad much either if I
had one. I find that tablets, in general, strip computing of the most
necessary element (a keyboard) and its most essential (power) in
favour of supposed convenience. For a teacher, I'm sure that the iPad
is fantastic but I find it fairly cumbersome in comparison to a
traditional laptop.

In article , Ed Cryer
wrote:

1. Clear 20 GB of memory.
2. Try plugging a portable HD or thumb-drive in.
You remember correctly that I use my tablet as a PDA "remember that
term" and brief case for meetings.

I have cleared the the memory and have and had over 17GB on last attempt
to install.* I also had over 25GB on the SD Card in the tablet

I have disabled the auto up date in sevices and will see if that works.


Is an iPad a toy? I think not.
Take a standard, jail-broken, 9.7" screen, quadcore, 32GB flash memory,
well engineered gen 4.
Compare it with my Linx 10;
https://www.techradar.com/reviews/pc...1291585/review

My verdict; it compares favourably with all the above points; slightly
larger screen too, and (believe me) it has something of the Apple high
quality look about it. I've had it for several years, and there's no
sign of any loosening or coming-undone around it.
Well then, Ed (someone might ask), why not use one of your iPads?
Ed: Because they can't take this package;
https://community.dur.ac.uk/p.j.hesl...ware/Diogenes/
and I teach Classics online.

ask the author to write an ios and/or android version, although given
that it's written in perl (!!) and that the author doesn't give a ****
about it actually working correctly (or at all), that isn't likely to
happen any time soon.

meanwhile, this ios app might be useful, at least according to one of
the comments:
https://itunes.apple.com/gb/app/attikos/id522497233?mt=8
A great little app. I've long wanted Diogenes and TLG on my iPad.
Well, this isn't quite that, but works in much the same way, though
on a limited number of texts. And we have Middle Liddell as well as
LSJ. Fantastic!

In article , Doomsdrzej
wrote:

I have an ASUS VivoTab Pro tablet running Windows 10 and I find it
shockingly useless. Mind you, I wouldn't use an iPad much either if I
had one. I find that tablets, in general, strip computing of the most
necessary element (a keyboard) and its most essential (power) in
favour of supposed convenience. For a teacher, I'm sure that the iPad
is fantastic but I find it fairly cumbersome in comparison to a
traditional laptop.

one is not a replacement for the other.

for some tasks, a tablet is ideal, if not the only solution. for other
tasks, a laptop is a better choice. sometimes a smartphone is the best
choice.

pick the best tool for the job.

nospam wrote:
In article , Ed Cryer
wrote:

1. Clear 20 GB of memory.
2. Try plugging a portable HD or thumb-drive in.
You remember correctly that I use my tablet as a PDA "remember that
term" and brief case for meetings.

I have cleared the the memory and have and had over 17GB on last attempt
to install.Â* I also had over 25GB on the SD Card in the tablet

I have disabled the auto up date in sevices and will see if that works.


Is an iPad a toy? I think not.
Take a standard, jail-broken, 9.7" screen, quadcore, 32GB flash memory,
well engineered gen 4.
Compare it with my Linx 10;
https://www.techradar.com/reviews/pc...1291585/review

My verdict; it compares favourably with all the above points; slightly
larger screen too, and (believe me) it has something of the Apple high
quality look about it. I've had it for several years, and there's no
sign of any loosening or coming-undone around it.
Well then, Ed (someone might ask), why not use one of your iPads?
Ed: Because they can't take this package;
https://community.dur.ac.uk/p.j.hesl...ware/Diogenes/
and I teach Classics online.

ask the author to write an ios and/or android version, although given
that it's written in perl (!!) and that the author doesn't give a ****
about it actually working correctly (or at all), that isn't likely to
happen any time soon.

meanwhile, this ios app might be useful, at least according to one of
the comments:
https://itunes.apple.com/gb/app/attikos/id522497233?mt=8
A great little app. I've long wanted Diogenes and TLG on my iPad.
Well, this isn't quite that, but works in much the same way, though
on a limited number of texts. And we have Middle Liddell as well as
LSJ. Fantastic!


It's free but not as good as this;
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/anci...463233342?mt=8
and add one for Latin too;
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/spqr...407340562?mt=8

But both of those together aren't a patch on Peter Heslin's Diogenes bundle.
He's now PhD professor at Durham University, and writing Diogenes got
him there, together with donating it to the world for free.
It can do myriads of things that the others can't.
1. It has full dictionaries for Latin & Greek, and they're linked
together so that if you click on a Greek word in the Latin side it takes
you to it.
2. Get hold of a couple of TLG databases for ancient texts, and you can
find anything in them. Who wrote this, who wrote that?
3. Full parsing of syntax & grammar.
4. Searches for word usage, word parts, words together.
και τα λοιπά

I'd be lost without it. And yes, I do know about the Perseus Project
online from Tufts University; which is very good.

Ed

In article , Ed Cryer
wrote:

Well then, Ed (someone might ask), why not use one of your iPads?
Ed: Because they can't take this package;
https://community.dur.ac.uk/p.j.hesl...ware/Diogenes/
and I teach Classics online.

ask the author to write an ios and/or android version, although given
that it's written in perl (!!) and that the author doesn't give a ****
about it actually working correctly (or at all), that isn't likely to
happen any time soon.

meanwhile, this ios app might be useful, at least according to one of
the comments:
https://itunes.apple.com/gb/app/attikos/id522497233?mt=8
A great little app. I've long wanted Diogenes and TLG on my iPad.
Well, this isn't quite that, but works in much the same way, though
on a limited number of texts. And we have Middle Liddell as well as
LSJ. Fantastic!

It's free but not as good as this;
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/anci...463233342?mt=8
and add one for Latin too;

https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/spqr.../id407340562?m
t=8

i just did a quick search for options on ios. i haven't tried any of
them. if there's enough of a demand, there will be apps.

But both of those together aren't a patch on Peter Heslin's Diogenes bundle.
He's now PhD professor at Durham University, and writing Diogenes got
him there, together with donating it to the world for free.
It can do myriads of things that the others can't.

i'm sure it can, except that he should stick to what he does well, and
that is definitely *not* software.

in particular:
https://community.dur.ac.uk/p.j.heslin/Software/Diogenes/issues.php
On Linux, Diogenes expects the filenames to be lowercase. If yours
are uppercase, rename them (there are tools that can help with this).

in other words, he is too lazy to convert everything internally to
lower case and leave the files as they are and/or do a case-insensitive
comparison.

any software that forces users to rename their files just in order for
it to work is by definition, crap. it's also an insult to users.

as i said, he doesn't give a ****.