Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8

The saga continues.

Following news that Windows 10 automatically downloads onto
Windows 7 and Windows 8 for users who choose to upgrade,
Microsoft MSFT +0.00% has now confirmed it has taken things one
serious step further: Windows 10 will now download on computers
even when users chose NOT to upgrade.

This somewhat shocking development was discovered by The
Inquirer when a reader reported Windows 10 had been downloaded
onto their computer despite the fact they expressly declined the
opportunity to upgrade:

“The symptoms are repeated failed ‘Upgrade to Windows 10' in the
WU update history and a huge 3.5GB to 6GB hidden folder labelled
‘$Windows.~BT’,” the reader explained. “I thought Microsoft
[said] this ‘upgrade’ was optional. If so, why is it being
pushed out to so many computers where it wasn’t reserved, and
why does it try to install over and over again?

He continued: “I know of two instances where people on metered
connections went over their data cap for August because of this
unwanted download. My own internet (slow DSL) was crawling for a
week or so until I discovered this problem. In fact, that’s what
led me to it. Not only does it download, it tries to install
every time the computer is booted.”

Microsoft Confirms New Policy

Astonishingly this is not a one-off error. Speaking to The
Inquirer, Microsoft confirmed this is now something they are
doing to all computers running Windows 7 and Windows 8:

“For individuals who have chosen to receive automatic updates
through Windows Update, we help upgradable devices get ready for
Windows 10 by downloading the files they’ll need if they decide
to upgrade. When the upgrade is ready, the customer will be
prompted to install Windows 10 on the device,” said a Microsoft
spokesperson.

Now let’s be clear he with regards to Windows 7 and Windows 8
“individuals who have chosen to receive automatic updates
through Windows Update” is essentially everyone.

So unless you expressly chose to switch off all Windows updates
(not recommended), you will be receiving (and have already
received) a 3-6GB silent download. As The Inquirer reader points
out, this can be found at: C:\$windows.~BT

Note this is a hidden folder so to view it you need to open File
Explorer and go to: Organize Folder Options View Show
hidden files, folders, and drives.

The Fall Out

So what to make of this? Quite frankly, while opinions remain
divided over Windows 10’s forced updates, for Microsoft to
presumptuously take a substantial chunk of every Windows 7 and
Windows 8 user’s storage (and data allowance) downloading
Windows 10 even if they specifically state they do not want to
upgrade is a big step too far.

Personally I cannot see what Microsoft is trying to achieve
here. When a user wants Windows 10 they will expect a large
download to begin and there to be some waiting time. But
Microsoft downloading Windows 10 anyway just to skip this wait
for users who don’t want Windows 10 is complete madness.

So what are your options…

What To Do

For those determined not to have their hard drive storage space
and/or Internet data allowance wasted by Windows 10, the options
are limited.

The most drastic step is to disable Windows Update completely,
but I would not recommend it as you are then trapped in a manual
cycle of vetting every update to keep your computer update and
secure.

Meanwhile the alternative for those who have already had Windows
10 downloaded on their systems is simply to delete the
C:\$windows folder. Then again Microsoft has not disclosed
whether it will simply start downloading it again!

I have reached out to Microsoft for further clarification here
and will update the post when/if the company responds.

In the meantime we are fast seeing Microsoft approach a
dangerous crossing. It has already released updates on Windows 7
and Windows 8 which add detailed user tracking akin to Windows
10 and now it is downloading Windows 10 on Windows 7 and Windows
8 computers computers whether users want it or not.

Microsoft needs to be very careful. It took decades to build up
user trust, but now it risks tearing everything down in just a
few months…

http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonke.../12/microsoft-
confirms-windows-10-now-forced-onto-windows-7-and-windows-8/

In message , Jeremy
Bentham writes
So unless you expressly chose to switch off all Windows updates (not
recommended), you will be receiving (and have already received) a 3-6GB
silent download. As The Inquirer reader points out, this can be found
at: C:\$windows.~BT

It's not actually necessary to switch of /all/ Windows updates. It's
sufficient to switch off "optional" updates, continuing to download
"essential" ones. I have always had optional updates switched off, and
there is no hidden C:\$windows.~BT on my Windows 7 machine.

Of course it's always possible that at some time in the future Microsoft
will decide to upgrade the relevant updates from optional to essential.
--
John Hall
"Honest criticism is hard to take,
particularly from a relative, a friend,
an acquaintance, or a stranger." Franklin P Jones

John Hall wrote:
In message , Jeremy
Bentham writes
So unless you expressly chose to switch off all Windows updates (not
recommended), you will be receiving (and have already received) a
3-6GB silent download. As The Inquirer reader points out, this can be
found at: C:\$windows.~BT

It's not actually necessary to switch of /all/ Windows updates. It's
sufficient to switch off "optional" updates, continuing to download
"essential" ones. I have always had optional updates switched off, and
there is no hidden C:\$windows.~BT on my Windows 7 machine.

Of course it's always possible that at some time in the future
Microsoft will decide to upgrade the relevant updates from optional to
essential.
They are working their way there now.

I've noticed on my Win7 updates waiting for action lately, labels for
"optional" have disappeared, they moved to "recommended" briefly, and
way too many now, are labeled "security" ... with vague descriptions.
I feel MS thinks if they make investigating their "updates" too lengthy,
tiresome, and in some cases impossible ... we will all just give in and
turn our computers over to their key loggers and automatic updates.
Guess I'm just going to stop them ALL at that point.

After that, when Win7 becomes unusable on too many web sites, I'll
switch to Linux.
bj

On 09/12/15 11:49, Jeremy Bentham wrote:
The saga continues.

Following news that Windows 10 automatically downloads onto
Windows 7 and Windows 8 for users who choose to upgrade,
Microsoft MSFT +0.00% has now confirmed it has taken things one
serious step further: Windows 10 will now download on computers
even when users chose NOT to upgrade.

This somewhat shocking development was discovered by The
Inquirer when a reader reported Windows 10 had been downloaded
onto their computer despite the fact they expressly declined the
opportunity to upgrade:

“The symptoms are repeated failed ‘Upgrade to Windows 10' in the
WU update history and a huge 3.5GB to 6GB hidden folder labelled
‘$Windows.~BT’,” the reader explained. “I thought Microsoft
[said] this ‘upgrade’ was optional. If so, why is it being
pushed out to so many computers where it wasn’t reserved, and
why does it try to install over and over again?

He continued: “I know of two instances where people on metered
connections went over their data cap for August because of this
unwanted download. My own internet (slow DSL) was crawling for a
week or so until I discovered this problem. In fact, that’s what
led me to it. Not only does it download, it tries to install
every time the computer is booted.”

Microsoft Confirms New Policy

Astonishingly this is not a one-off error. Speaking to The
Inquirer, Microsoft confirmed this is now something they are
doing to all computers running Windows 7 and Windows 8:

“For individuals who have chosen to receive automatic updates
through Windows Update, we help upgradable devices get ready for
Windows 10 by downloading the files they’ll need if they decide
to upgrade. When the upgrade is ready, the customer will be
prompted to install Windows 10 on the device,” said a Microsoft
spokesperson.

Now let’s be clear he with regards to Windows 7 and Windows 8
“individuals who have chosen to receive automatic updates
through Windows Update” is essentially everyone.

So unless you expressly chose to switch off all Windows updates
(not recommended), you will be receiving (and have already
received) a 3-6GB silent download. As The Inquirer reader points
out, this can be found at: C:\$windows.~BT

Note this is a hidden folder so to view it you need to open File
Explorer and go to: Organize Folder Options View Show
hidden files, folders, and drives.

The Fall Out

So what to make of this? Quite frankly, while opinions remain
divided over Windows 10’s forced updates, for Microsoft to
presumptuously take a substantial chunk of every Windows 7 and
Windows 8 user’s storage (and data allowance) downloading
Windows 10 even if they specifically state they do not want to
upgrade is a big step too far.

Personally I cannot see what Microsoft is trying to achieve
here. When a user wants Windows 10 they will expect a large
download to begin and there to be some waiting time. But
Microsoft downloading Windows 10 anyway just to skip this wait
for users who don’t want Windows 10 is complete madness.

So what are your options…

What To Do

For those determined not to have their hard drive storage space
and/or Internet data allowance wasted by Windows 10, the options
are limited.

The most drastic step is to disable Windows Update completely,
but I would not recommend it as you are then trapped in a manual
cycle of vetting every update to keep your computer update and
secure.

Meanwhile the alternative for those who have already had Windows
10 downloaded on their systems is simply to delete the
C:\$windows folder. Then again Microsoft has not disclosed
whether it will simply start downloading it again!

I have reached out to Microsoft for further clarification here
and will update the post when/if the company responds.

In the meantime we are fast seeing Microsoft approach a
dangerous crossing. It has already released updates on Windows 7
and Windows 8 which add detailed user tracking akin to Windows
10 and now it is downloading Windows 10 on Windows 7 and Windows
8 computers computers whether users want it or not.

Microsoft needs to be very careful. It took decades to build up
user trust, but now it risks tearing everything down in just a
few months…

http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonke.../12/microsoft-
confirms-windows-10-now-forced-onto-windows-7-and-windows-8/

That's rather odd... I have win7 and it hasn't downloaded win10 yet.
Nor was it forced upon me.

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Indian said, "Only the government would believe that you
could cut a foot off the top of a blanket, sew it to the
bottom, and have a longer blanket."

On 12/09/2015 20:48, GreyCloud wrote:


That's rather odd... I have win7 and it hasn't downloaded win10 yet.
Nor was it forced upon me.


It is because you are comparably more intelligent than some idiots
blaming Microsoft about everything when their stupidity is contributing
to all the problems they have with their machines.

One thing though, where your limited knowledge might embarrass you is
when you don't remove so many cross posted messages. It is absolutely
not necessary to post to some useless newsgroups where you get complete
idiots.

On 2015-09-12 3:08 PM, chicagofan wrote:
John Hall wrote:
In message , Jeremy
Bentham writes
So unless you expressly chose to switch off all Windows updates (not
recommended), you will be receiving (and have already received) a
3-6GB silent download. As The Inquirer reader points out, this can be
found at: C:\$windows.~BT

It's not actually necessary to switch of /all/ Windows updates. It's
sufficient to switch off "optional" updates, continuing to download
"essential" ones. I have always had optional updates switched off, and
there is no hidden C:\$windows.~BT on my Windows 7 machine.

Of course it's always possible that at some time in the future
Microsoft will decide to upgrade the relevant updates from optional to
essential.
They are working their way there now.

I've noticed on my Win7 updates waiting for action lately, labels for
"optional" have disappeared, they moved to "recommended" briefly, and
way too many now, are labeled "security" ... with vague descriptions.
I feel MS thinks if they make investigating their "updates" too lengthy,
tiresome, and in some cases impossible ... we will all just give in and
turn our computers over to their key loggers and automatic updates.
Guess I'm just going to stop them ALL at that point.

After that, when Win7 becomes unusable on too many web sites, I'll
switch to Linux.

Trust me, you wouldn't be switching to Linux anytime soon in this
century. It's THAT awful.


--
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On Sat, 12 Sep 2015 19:15:55 +0100, John Hall wrote:

In message , Jeremy
Bentham writes
So unless you expressly chose to switch off all Windows updates (not
recommended), you will be receiving (and have already received) a 3-6GB
silent download. As The Inquirer reader points out, this can be found
at: C:\$windows.~BT

It's not actually necessary to switch of /all/ Windows updates. It's
sufficient to switch off "optional" updates, continuing to download
"essential" ones. I have always had optional updates switched off, and
there is no hidden C:\$windows.~BT on my Windows 7 machine.

Of course it's always possible that at some time in the future Microsoft
will decide to upgrade the relevant updates from optional to essential.

I think it's worth pointing out that MSFT have form for doing exactly
this. In this case they didn't even bother trying the 'optional updates'
route but cut straight to the chase of 'essential system updates'.

I'm referring, of course, to that much unwanted and unloved IE7 update
that was sneakily inflicted on winXP SP3 users as a means of acclimating
them to the newly heralded (and ironically named) Vista by offering them
the thin end of the wedge of Vista nastiness (totally pointless 'change
for change's sake) that this represented.

MSFT's attitude to the consumer market demographic is exactly the same
now as it was when they unleashed that broken version of win2k, known as
winXP onto the huddled consumer masses some 15 years ago. The major
difference this time is that whatever scruples they used to have in
regard of the consumers' privacy have been well and truly swept away by
their decision to follow Google's and others' lead in data mining the
**** out of their market demographic.

--
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On 12/09/2015 20:54, A.M wrote:
Trust me, you wouldn't be switching to Linux anytime soon in this
century. It's THAT awful.




For once I have read something sensible here. Century might be too far
fetched but surely not in the next 10 years as far as I can see.

The caveat here is that if the Cloud Computing is developed so that one
can use Accounting and tax software using nothing but the browser then
probably other OS have a chance but I don't see this happening now.
Tax Return needs to be filled online these days in most countries and
Windows is the only platform that has software packages developed for this.

I have also noticed that DELL has stopped selling Linux boxes; Last
week they were selling for peanuts but now I don't see any. Of course,
I look at DELL UK (or EMEA as some call it). Don't know about US but it
is a big market not to support it.

I have had updates turned completely off for over a year now due
to all the government and MS spying going on. Never had any
(known) problems since. I am not so sure that turning off updates
is really such a bad idea. MS had plenty of time to work out any
major bugs/security problems during the years W7 was auto updating
my machine. I know that new problems can arise, but is there
really a bigger problem that MS doing this? I keep all my private
data in encrypted files on external drives that are plugged in only
when I need to use the data.
Programs accessing the data are run in a sandbox.

On Sat, 12 Sep 2015 13:48:05 -0600, GreyCloud wrote:

On 09/12/15 11:49, Jeremy Bentham wrote:
The saga continues.

Following news that Windows 10 automatically downloads onto Windows 7
and Windows 8 for users who choose to upgrade,
Microsoft MSFT +0.00% has now confirmed it has taken things one serious
step further: Windows 10 will now download on computers even when users
chose NOT to upgrade.

This somewhat shocking development was discovered by The Inquirer when
a reader reported Windows 10 had been downloaded onto their computer
despite the fact they expressly declined the opportunity to upgrade:

“The symptoms are repeated failed ‘Upgrade to Windows 10' in the WU
update history and a huge 3.5GB to 6GB hidden folder labelled
‘$Windows.~BT’,� the reader explained. “I thought Microsoft [said] this
‘upgrade’ was optional. If so, why is it being pushed out to so many
computers where it wasn’t reserved, and why does it try to install over
and over again?

He continued: “I know of two instances where people on metered
connections went over their data cap for August because of this
unwanted download. My own internet (slow DSL) was crawling for a week
or so until I discovered this problem. In fact, that’s what led me to
it. Not only does it download, it tries to install every time the
computer is booted.�

Microsoft Confirms New Policy

Astonishingly this is not a one-off error. Speaking to The Inquirer,
Microsoft confirmed this is now something they are doing to all
computers running Windows 7 and Windows 8:

“For individuals who have chosen to receive automatic updates through
Windows Update, we help upgradable devices get ready for Windows 10 by
downloading the files they’ll need if they decide to upgrade. When the
upgrade is ready, the customer will be prompted to install Windows 10
on the device,� said a Microsoft spokesperson.

Now let’s be clear he with regards to Windows 7 and Windows 8
“individuals who have chosen to receive automatic updates through
Windows Update� is essentially everyone.

So unless you expressly chose to switch off all Windows updates (not
recommended), you will be receiving (and have already received) a 3-6GB
silent download. As The Inquirer reader points out, this can be found
at: C:\$windows.~BT

Note this is a hidden folder so to view it you need to open File
Explorer and go to: Organize Folder Options View Show hidden
files, folders, and drives.

The Fall Out

So what to make of this? Quite frankly, while opinions remain divided
over Windows 10’s forced updates, for Microsoft to presumptuously take
a substantial chunk of every Windows 7 and Windows 8 user’s storage
(and data allowance) downloading Windows 10 even if they specifically
state they do not want to upgrade is a big step too far.

Personally I cannot see what Microsoft is trying to achieve here. When
a user wants Windows 10 they will expect a large download to begin and
there to be some waiting time. But Microsoft downloading Windows 10
anyway just to skip this wait for users who don’t want Windows 10 is
complete madness.

So what are your options…

What To Do

For those determined not to have their hard drive storage space and/or
Internet data allowance wasted by Windows 10, the options are limited.

The most drastic step is to disable Windows Update completely,
but I would not recommend it as you are then trapped in a manual cycle
of vetting every update to keep your computer update and secure.

Meanwhile the alternative for those who have already had Windows 10
downloaded on their systems is simply to delete the C:\$windows folder.
Then again Microsoft has not disclosed whether it will simply start
downloading it again!

I have reached out to Microsoft for further clarification here and will
update the post when/if the company responds.

In the meantime we are fast seeing Microsoft approach a dangerous
crossing. It has already released updates on Windows 7 and Windows 8
which add detailed user tracking akin to Windows 10 and now it is
downloading Windows 10 on Windows 7 and Windows 8 computers computers
whether users want it or not.

Microsoft needs to be very careful. It took decades to build up user
trust, but now it risks tearing everything down in just a few months…

http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonke.../12/microsoft-
confirms-windows-10-now-forced-onto-windows-7-and-windows-8/

That's rather odd... I have win7 and it hasn't downloaded win10 yet.
Nor was it forced upon me.


Wasn't forced on any of my boxes either.



--
Lloyd

Lloyd Parsons wrote:

On Sat, 12 Sep 2015 13:48:05 -0600, GreyCloud wrote:

On 09/12/15 11:49, Jeremy Bentham wrote:
The saga continues.

Following news that Windows 10 automatically downloads onto Windows 7
and Windows 8 for users who choose to upgrade,
Microsoft MSFT +0.00% has now confirmed it has taken things one serious
step further: Windows 10 will now download on computers even when users
chose NOT to upgrade.

This somewhat shocking development was discovered by The Inquirer when
a reader reported Windows 10 had been downloaded onto their computer
despite the fact they expressly declined the opportunity to upgrade:

“The symptoms are repeated failed ‘Upgrade to Windows 10' in the WU
update history and a huge 3.5GB to 6GB hidden folder labelled
‘$Windows.~BT’,� the reader explained. “I thought Microsoft [said] this
‘upgrade’ was optional. If so, why is it being pushed out to so many
computers where it wasn’t reserved, and why does it try to install over
and over again?

He continued: “I know of two instances where people on metered
connections went over their data cap for August because of this
unwanted download. My own internet (slow DSL) was crawling for a week
or so until I discovered this problem. In fact, that’s what led me to
it. Not only does it download, it tries to install every time the
computer is booted.�

Microsoft Confirms New Policy

Astonishingly this is not a one-off error. Speaking to The Inquirer,
Microsoft confirmed this is now something they are doing to all
computers running Windows 7 and Windows 8:

“For individuals who have chosen to receive automatic updates through
Windows Update, we help upgradable devices get ready for Windows 10 by
downloading the files they’ll need if they decide to upgrade. When the
upgrade is ready, the customer will be prompted to install Windows 10
on the device,� said a Microsoft spokesperson.

Now let’s be clear he with regards to Windows 7 and Windows 8
“individuals who have chosen to receive automatic updates through
Windows Update� is essentially everyone.

So unless you expressly chose to switch off all Windows updates (not
recommended), you will be receiving (and have already received) a 3-6GB
silent download. As The Inquirer reader points out, this can be found
at: C:\$windows.~BT

Note this is a hidden folder so to view it you need to open File
Explorer and go to: Organize Folder Options View Show hidden
files, folders, and drives.

The Fall Out

So what to make of this? Quite frankly, while opinions remain divided
over Windows 10’s forced updates, for Microsoft to presumptuously take
a substantial chunk of every Windows 7 and Windows 8 user’s storage
(and data allowance) downloading Windows 10 even if they specifically
state they do not want to upgrade is a big step too far.

Personally I cannot see what Microsoft is trying to achieve here. When
a user wants Windows 10 they will expect a large download to begin and
there to be some waiting time. But Microsoft downloading Windows 10
anyway just to skip this wait for users who don’t want Windows 10 is
complete madness.

So what are your options…

What To Do

For those determined not to have their hard drive storage space and/or
Internet data allowance wasted by Windows 10, the options are limited.

The most drastic step is to disable Windows Update completely,
but I would not recommend it as you are then trapped in a manual cycle
of vetting every update to keep your computer update and secure.

Meanwhile the alternative for those who have already had Windows 10
downloaded on their systems is simply to delete the C:\$windows folder.
Then again Microsoft has not disclosed whether it will simply start
downloading it again!

I have reached out to Microsoft for further clarification here and will
update the post when/if the company responds.

In the meantime we are fast seeing Microsoft approach a dangerous
crossing. It has already released updates on Windows 7 and Windows 8
which add detailed user tracking akin to Windows 10 and now it is
downloading Windows 10 on Windows 7 and Windows 8 computers computers
whether users want it or not.

Microsoft needs to be very careful. It took decades to build up user
trust, but now it risks tearing everything down in just a few months…

http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2015/09/12/microsoft- confirms-windows-10-now-forced-onto-windows-7-and-windows-8/

That's rather odd... I have win7 and it hasn't downloaded win10 yet.
Nor was it forced upon me.


Wasn't forced on any of my boxes either.



Naturally not. Can't have telling the truth

There are even articles around telling how to get rid of that unwanted
"update". Which people get when they have "automatic updates" enabled

You MS shills may deny the truth as long as you want, it does not change
though. Even MS itself was forced to admit that they force that Win10 ****e
down peoples throats

In article
Peter =?UTF-8?B?S8O2aGxtYW5u?= wrote:


You MS shills

STFU FOAD.

Lehman wrote:

In article
Peter =?UTF-8?B?S8O2aGxtYW5u?= wrote:


You MS shills

STFU FOAD.

Idiot.

But then you are a dizumn coward. Abject stupidity does not nearly describe
your mental "abilities". And you use windows

On Sun, 13 Sep 2015 00:33:33 +0200, Peter Köhlmann wrote:

Lloyd Parsons wrote:

On Sat, 12 Sep 2015 13:48:05 -0600, GreyCloud wrote:

On 09/12/15 11:49, Jeremy Bentham wrote:
The saga continues.

Following news that Windows 10 automatically downloads onto Windows 7
and Windows 8 for users who choose to upgrade,
Microsoft MSFT +0.00% has now confirmed it has taken things one serious
step further: Windows 10 will now download on computers even when users
chose NOT to upgrade.

This somewhat shocking development was discovered by The Inquirer when
a reader reported Windows 10 had been downloaded onto their computer
despite the fact they expressly declined the opportunity to upgrade:

“The symptoms are repeated failed ‘Upgrade to Windows 10' in the WU
update history and a huge 3.5GB to 6GB hidden folder labelled
‘$Windows.~BT’,� the reader explained. “I thought Microsoft [said] this
‘upgrade’ was optional. If so, why is it being pushed out to so many
computers where it wasn’t reserved, and why does it try to install over
and over again?

He continued: “I know of two instances where people on metered
connections went over their data cap for August because of this
unwanted download. My own internet (slow DSL) was crawling for a week
or so until I discovered this problem. In fact, that’s what led me to
it. Not only does it download, it tries to install every time the
computer is booted.�

Microsoft Confirms New Policy

Astonishingly this is not a one-off error. Speaking to The Inquirer,
Microsoft confirmed this is now something they are doing to all
computers running Windows 7 and Windows 8:

“For individuals who have chosen to receive automatic updates through
Windows Update, we help upgradable devices get ready for Windows 10 by
downloading the files they’ll need if they decide to upgrade. When the
upgrade is ready, the customer will be prompted to install Windows 10
on the device,� said a Microsoft spokesperson.

Now let’s be clear he with regards to Windows 7 and Windows 8
“individuals who have chosen to receive automatic updates through
Windows Update� is essentially everyone.

So unless you expressly chose to switch off all Windows updates (not
recommended), you will be receiving (and have already received) a 3-6GB
silent download. As The Inquirer reader points out, this can be found
at: C:\$windows.~BT

Note this is a hidden folder so to view it you need to open File
Explorer and go to: Organize Folder Options View Show hidden
files, folders, and drives.

The Fall Out

So what to make of this? Quite frankly, while opinions remain divided
over Windows 10’s forced updates, for Microsoft to presumptuously take
a substantial chunk of every Windows 7 and Windows 8 user’s storage
(and data allowance) downloading Windows 10 even if they specifically
state they do not want to upgrade is a big step too far.

Personally I cannot see what Microsoft is trying to achieve here. When
a user wants Windows 10 they will expect a large download to begin and
there to be some waiting time. But Microsoft downloading Windows 10
anyway just to skip this wait for users who don’t want Windows 10 is
complete madness.

So what are your options…

What To Do

For those determined not to have their hard drive storage space and/or
Internet data allowance wasted by Windows 10, the options are limited.

The most drastic step is to disable Windows Update completely,
but I would not recommend it as you are then trapped in a manual cycle
of vetting every update to keep your computer update and secure.

Meanwhile the alternative for those who have already had Windows 10
downloaded on their systems is simply to delete the C:\$windows folder.
Then again Microsoft has not disclosed whether it will simply start
downloading it again!

I have reached out to Microsoft for further clarification here and will
update the post when/if the company responds.

In the meantime we are fast seeing Microsoft approach a dangerous
crossing. It has already released updates on Windows 7 and Windows 8
which add detailed user tracking akin to Windows 10 and now it is
downloading Windows 10 on Windows 7 and Windows 8 computers computers
whether users want it or not.

Microsoft needs to be very careful. It took decades to build up user
trust, but now it risks tearing everything down in just a few months…

http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2015/09/12/microsoft- confirms-windows-10-now-forced-onto-windows-7-and-windows-8/

That's rather odd... I have win7 and it hasn't downloaded win10 yet.
Nor was it forced upon me.


Wasn't forced on any of my boxes either.



Naturally not. Can't have telling the truth

Wasn't forced on me either.

+SHADDUP **** for brains


There are even articles around telling how to get rid of that unwanted
"update". Which people get when they have "automatic updates" enabled

You MS shills may deny the truth as long as you want, it does not change
though. Even MS itself was forced to admit that they force that Win10 ****e
down peoples throats



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p-0''0-h the cat (UK) - The voice of the Sheeple wrote:

On Sun, 13 Sep 2015 00:33:33 +0200, Peter Köhlmann wrote:

Lloyd Parsons wrote:

On Sat, 12 Sep 2015 13:48:05 -0600, GreyCloud wrote:

On 09/12/15 11:49, Jeremy Bentham wrote:
The saga continues.

Following news that Windows 10 automatically downloads onto Windows 7
and Windows 8 for users who choose to upgrade,
Microsoft MSFT +0.00% has now confirmed it has taken things one
serious step further: Windows 10 will now download on computers even
when users chose NOT to upgrade.

This somewhat shocking development was discovered by The Inquirer when
a reader reported Windows 10 had been downloaded onto their computer
despite the fact they expressly declined the opportunity to upgrade:

“The symptoms are repeated failed ‘Upgrade to Windows 10' in the WU
update history and a huge 3.5GB to 6GB hidden folder labelled
‘$Windows.~BT’,� the reader explained. “I thought Microsoft [said]
this ‘upgrade’ was optional. If so, why is it being pushed out to so
many computers where it wasn’t reserved, and why does it try to
install over and over again?

He continued: “I know of two instances where people on metered
connections went over their data cap for August because of this
unwanted download. My own internet (slow DSL) was crawling for a week
or so until I discovered this problem. In fact, that’s what led me to
it. Not only does it download, it tries to install every time the
computer is booted.�

Microsoft Confirms New Policy

Astonishingly this is not a one-off error. Speaking to The Inquirer,
Microsoft confirmed this is now something they are doing to all
computers running Windows 7 and Windows 8:

“For individuals who have chosen to receive automatic updates through
Windows Update, we help upgradable devices get ready for Windows 10 by
downloading the files they’ll need if they decide to upgrade. When the
upgrade is ready, the customer will be prompted to install Windows 10
on the device,� said a Microsoft spokesperson.

Now let’s be clear he with regards to Windows 7 and Windows 8
“individuals who have chosen to receive automatic updates through
Windows Update� is essentially everyone.

So unless you expressly chose to switch off all Windows updates (not
recommended), you will be receiving (and have already received) a
3-6GB silent download. As The Inquirer reader points out, this can be
found at: C:\$windows.~BT

Note this is a hidden folder so to view it you need to open File
Explorer and go to: Organize Folder Options View Show hidden
files, folders, and drives.

The Fall Out

So what to make of this? Quite frankly, while opinions remain divided
over Windows 10’s forced updates, for Microsoft to presumptuously take
a substantial chunk of every Windows 7 and Windows 8 user’s storage
(and data allowance) downloading Windows 10 even if they specifically
state they do not want to upgrade is a big step too far.

Personally I cannot see what Microsoft is trying to achieve here. When
a user wants Windows 10 they will expect a large download to begin and
there to be some waiting time. But Microsoft downloading Windows 10
anyway just to skip this wait for users who don’t want Windows 10 is
complete madness.

So what are your options…

What To Do

For those determined not to have their hard drive storage space and/or
Internet data allowance wasted by Windows 10, the options are limited.

The most drastic step is to disable Windows Update completely,
but I would not recommend it as you are then trapped in a manual cycle
of vetting every update to keep your computer update and secure.

Meanwhile the alternative for those who have already had Windows 10
downloaded on their systems is simply to delete the C:\$windows
folder. Then again Microsoft has not disclosed whether it will simply
start downloading it again!

I have reached out to Microsoft for further clarification here and
will update the post when/if the company responds.

In the meantime we are fast seeing Microsoft approach a dangerous
crossing. It has already released updates on Windows 7 and Windows 8
which add detailed user tracking akin to Windows 10 and now it is
downloading Windows 10 on Windows 7 and Windows 8 computers computers
whether users want it or not.

Microsoft needs to be very careful. It took decades to build up user
trust, but now it risks tearing everything down in just a few months…

http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2015/09/12/microsoft-
confirms-windows-10-now-forced-onto-windows-7-and-windows-8/

That's rather odd... I have win7 and it hasn't downloaded win10 yet.
Nor was it forced upon me.


Wasn't forced on any of my boxes either.



Naturally not. Can't have telling the truth

Wasn't forced on me either.

Lying comes natural to peabrains like you

+SHADDUP **** for brains

Make me, dimbulb