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Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) losespatent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX.
On 2016-10-03 12:01 PM, Silver Slimer wrote:
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 2016-10-03 2:56 PM, Silver Slimer wrote: On 2016-10-03 2:35 PM, Alan Baker wrote: On 2016-10-03 11:27 AM, Silver Slimer wrote: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 2016-10-03 2:19 PM, Alan Baker wrote: On 2016-10-03 11:09 AM, Silver Slimer wrote: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 2016-10-03 1:26 PM, Alan Baker wrote: On 2016-10-03 9:26 AM, Mongoose wrote: "Jolly Roger" wrote in message ... Fritz Wuehler wrote: Apple has been ordered to pay $302.4 million to the patent holding and security software company VirnetX Oh no, the sky is falling! : D Corrupt court known for siding with patent trolls gives Apple a slap on the wrist for doing nothing wrong. You fangurls are really stupid. Apple screws you without vaseline, and you bend over for more. How do they do that: by making products that people want and selling them at prices those people are willing to pay? Except they don't do that. They make LIMITED hardware at exorbitant prices knowing that there are enough dumb people out there willing to buy it as a fashion statement. In your limited opinion... $300 million is a drop in the bucket for a company that takes in over $18 billion a quarter. Apple makes enough money in profit to pay this fine in a couple days. Big deal. Especially in the light of they don't pay any taxes. Bull****. It's accurate. Apple's taxes are mostly paid elsewhere and they've been avoiding giving the United States even a dime. They went to court over it near and after Jobs' death and Tim Cook was asked point-blank why Apple avoids paying taxes in the United States. Try to pause your fanboyism for a day to look it up. Apple pays a HUGE amount in taxes, and they use legal means to avoid paying more than they have to. 'It’s the third thing that’s so interesting though. About this shifting of cash flows and tax debts through time. Last year Apple made provisions for tax of $8.283 billion (Provision for income taxes 8,283). Which was indeed 24.2% of their profits declared in that year. Now, in this trading year they’ve actually paid over $7.682 billion.' http://www.forbes.com/sites/timworst...o-how-much-tax - - di d-apple-pay/#36b183145fa9 Apple pays a lot but also avoids paying a lot. To be fair, I would probably do the same in their position since the United States have taken it upon themselves to tax the crap out of corporations to the extent that none of them want to do business in your country anymore but it's still unethical for an American company to do so. Now let's see a cite for your claim. http://abcnews.go.com/Business/apple...tifies/story?i d =19 219178 Your claim was: 'They went to court over it near and after Jobs' death' A congressional subcommittee hearing is not a court. And yet Apple received a _court_ order. https://secure.marke****ch.com/story...rt-order-threa te ns-the-security-of-customers-2016-02-17 Geez, stop being a retarded fanboy. Whoops, I posted the wrong link there. One, about what's going on in the United States by Apple: http://www.cnbc.com/2016/08/14/tim-c...us-taxes-says- no-repatriation-without-fair-rate.html ... they want a fair rate but: http://ca.finance.ret1p.global.media...ook-attacks-eu - -tax-114817858.html Turns out they weren't paying their fair share according to the _court_ No. The "European Commission" is not a court. |
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Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) losespatent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX.
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Hash: SHA256 On 2016-10-03 3:07 PM, Alan Baker wrote: On 2016-10-03 12:01 PM, Silver Slimer wrote: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 2016-10-03 2:56 PM, Silver Slimer wrote: On 2016-10-03 2:35 PM, Alan Baker wrote: On 2016-10-03 11:27 AM, Silver Slimer wrote: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 2016-10-03 2:19 PM, Alan Baker wrote: On 2016-10-03 11:09 AM, Silver Slimer wrote: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 2016-10-03 1:26 PM, Alan Baker wrote: On 2016-10-03 9:26 AM, Mongoose wrote: "Jolly Roger" wrote in message ... Fritz Wuehler wrote: Apple has been ordered to pay $302.4 million to the patent holding and security software company VirnetX Oh no, the sky is falling! : D Corrupt court known for siding with patent trolls gives Apple a slap on the wrist for doing nothing wrong. You fangurls are really stupid. Apple screws you without vaseline, and you bend over for more. How do they do that: by making products that people want and selling them at prices those people are willing to pay? Except they don't do that. They make LIMITED hardware at exorbitant prices knowing that there are enough dumb people out there willing to buy it as a fashion statement. In your limited opinion... $300 million is a drop in the bucket for a company that takes in over $18 billion a quarter. Apple makes enough money in profit to pay this fine in a couple days. Big deal. Especially in the light of they don't pay any taxes. Bull****. It's accurate. Apple's taxes are mostly paid elsewhere and they've been avoiding giving the United States even a dime. They went to court over it near and after Jobs' death and Tim Cook was asked point-blank why Apple avoids paying taxes in the United States. Try to pause your fanboyism for a day to look it up. Apple pays a HUGE amount in taxes, and they use legal means to avoid paying more than they have to. 'It’s the third thing that’s so interesting though. About this shifting of cash flows and tax debts through time. Last year Apple made provisions for tax of $8.283 billion (Provision for income taxes 8,283). Which was indeed 24.2% of their profits declared in that year. Now, in this trading year they’ve actually paid over $7.682 billion.' http://www.forbes.com/sites/timworst.../so-how-much-t ax - - - di d-apple-pay/#36b183145fa9 Apple pays a lot but also avoids paying a lot. To be fair, I would probably do the same in their position since the United States have taken it upon themselves to tax the crap out of corporations to the extent that none of them want to do business in your country anymore but it's still unethical for an American company to do so. Now let's see a cite for your claim. http://abcnews.go.com/Business/apple...estifies/story ?i d =19 219178 Your claim was: 'They went to court over it near and after Jobs' death' A congressional subcommittee hearing is not a court. And yet Apple received a _court_ order. https://secure.marke****ch.com/story...ourt-order-thr ea te ns-the-security-of-customers-2016-02-17 Geez, stop being a retarded fanboy. Whoops, I posted the wrong link there. One, about what's going on in the United States by Apple: http://www.cnbc.com/2016/08/14/tim-c...es-us-taxes-sa ys- no-repatriation-without-fair-rate.html ... they want a fair rate but: http://ca.finance.ret1p.global.media...m-cook-attacks - -eu - - -tax-114817858.html Turns out they weren't paying their fair share according to the _court_ No. The "European Commission" is not a court. And yet they were still forced to pay back taxes as would be proscribed by a _court_. - -- Silver Slimer Islam is a disease -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJX8rLyAAoJEIwFfgf/rr+uvVgH/A3y9AKQc5ZH1T+/6UzquNZk C4iW0xzm+oRGJHS6cTJBDCMNGsQHzxhBPJ+jxwXccFeKlMP2Bd J+upQ+WsuhMAz/ 63os6cT90fUrm802GhZsYKYZRbarOqubW5iCHgzU2eg55VkTid 8QsV0nIggj63E4 OKHfjlzVT5A9Xo3UD3Lu38MBJIG6J95wXqiMOlB+zum1rvciUZ cXQDyRijvVFoVg kuuPm7VZuglDYtb+R0T9VVu9I3JKYLcgpTEFDlqTvBf8JP49eL OctN2ydq7e3Hgg 4sbp4h80WBaBdkLrd3uvksGr1cmq98rqOusWRihMHotJkVNAqh hwKq41AxeMTHA= =KCoz -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- |
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Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) losespatent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX.
On 2016-10-03 12:35 PM, Silver Slimer wrote:
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 2016-10-03 3:07 PM, Alan Baker wrote: On 2016-10-03 12:01 PM, Silver Slimer wrote: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 2016-10-03 2:56 PM, Silver Slimer wrote: On 2016-10-03 2:35 PM, Alan Baker wrote: On 2016-10-03 11:27 AM, Silver Slimer wrote: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 2016-10-03 2:19 PM, Alan Baker wrote: On 2016-10-03 11:09 AM, Silver Slimer wrote: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 2016-10-03 1:26 PM, Alan Baker wrote: On 2016-10-03 9:26 AM, Mongoose wrote: "Jolly Roger" wrote in message ... Fritz Wuehler wrote: Apple has been ordered to pay $302.4 million to the patent holding and security software company VirnetX Oh no, the sky is falling! : D Corrupt court known for siding with patent trolls gives Apple a slap on the wrist for doing nothing wrong. You fangurls are really stupid. Apple screws you without vaseline, and you bend over for more. How do they do that: by making products that people want and selling them at prices those people are willing to pay? Except they don't do that. They make LIMITED hardware at exorbitant prices knowing that there are enough dumb people out there willing to buy it as a fashion statement. In your limited opinion... $300 million is a drop in the bucket for a company that takes in over $18 billion a quarter. Apple makes enough money in profit to pay this fine in a couple days. Big deal. Especially in the light of they don't pay any taxes. Bull****. It's accurate. Apple's taxes are mostly paid elsewhere and they've been avoiding giving the United States even a dime. They went to court over it near and after Jobs' death and Tim Cook was asked point-blank why Apple avoids paying taxes in the United States. Try to pause your fanboyism for a day to look it up. Apple pays a HUGE amount in taxes, and they use legal means to avoid paying more than they have to. 'It’s the third thing that’s so interesting though. About this shifting of cash flows and tax debts through time. Last year Apple made provisions for tax of $8.283 billion (Provision for income taxes 8,283). Which was indeed 24.2% of their profits declared in that year. Now, in this trading year they’ve actually paid over $7.682 billion.' http://www.forbes.com/sites/timworst.../so-how-much-t ax - - - di d-apple-pay/#36b183145fa9 Apple pays a lot but also avoids paying a lot. To be fair, I would probably do the same in their position since the United States have taken it upon themselves to tax the crap out of corporations to the extent that none of them want to do business in your country anymore but it's still unethical for an American company to do so. Now let's see a cite for your claim. http://abcnews.go.com/Business/apple...estifies/story ?i d =19 219178 Your claim was: 'They went to court over it near and after Jobs' death' A congressional subcommittee hearing is not a court. And yet Apple received a _court_ order. https://secure.marke****ch.com/story...ourt-order-thr ea te ns-the-security-of-customers-2016-02-17 Geez, stop being a retarded fanboy. Whoops, I posted the wrong link there. One, about what's going on in the United States by Apple: http://www.cnbc.com/2016/08/14/tim-c...es-us-taxes-sa ys- no-repatriation-without-fair-rate.html ... they want a fair rate but: http://ca.finance.ret1p.global.media...m-cook-attacks - -eu - - -tax-114817858.html Turns out they weren't paying their fair share according to the _court_ No. The "European Commission" is not a court. And yet they were still forced to pay back taxes as would be proscribed by a _court_. Incorrect, and a dodge. Your initial claim: 'They [Apple] went to court over it near and after Jobs' death and Tim Cook was asked point-blank why Apple avoids paying taxes in the United States.' So. 1. They didn't go to court. 2. The European Commission is not a court. 3. Apple didn't go to them either. 4. The group that asked Tim Cook "point-blank" was not the European Commission. It was a US sub-committee. 5. They didn't say that Apple avoids paying taxes in the US. 6. Apple DOES pay billions in taxes in the US. You're just digging yourself a deeper and deeper hole, here. |
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Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) losespatent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX.
On 2016-10-03 12:36 PM, Wolf K wrote:
On 2016-10-03 15:07, Alan Baker wrote: The "European Commission" is not a court. Irrelevant, since a) the EU is not a Common Law jurisdiction; and b) the Commission can issue binding orders. The closest analogue in Common Law countries would be a quasi-judicial administrative law tribunal. Ireland is trying to wiggle out of the binding order Apple's tax obligations. None of that makes "Slimer's" claims into truth. What this boils down to is GREED. The EC/EU doesn't actually CARE about this as a matter of principle: they care because they want the MONEY. |
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Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX.
"nospam" wrote in message ... In article , Mongoose wrote: $300 million is a drop in the bucket for a company that takes in over $18 billion a quarter. Apple makes enough money in profit to pay this fine in a couple days. Big deal. Especially in the light of they don't pay any taxes. apple pays a ****load of taxes. But not their fair share. Laughably lame troll brought to you by Fritz Wuehler. Try c.s.m.a. next time, dummy. Confused, fangurl This is CSMA. Try not to worry so much. We know the courts decision was a blow to you. it isn't. To you, maybe not, but to him a huge blow. And I'm happy for you. Maybe you can get an audience with Tim Cook for all your undying loyalty. Maybe he will take you out to dinner. |
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Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) losespatent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX.
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Hash: SHA256 On 2016-10-03 4:08 PM, Mongoose wrote: "nospam" wrote in message ... In article , Mongoose wrote: $300 million is a drop in the bucket for a company that takes in over $18 billion a quarter. Apple makes enough money in profit to pay this fine in a couple days. Big deal. Especially in the light of they don't pay any taxes. apple pays a ****load of taxes. But not their fair share. Laughably lame troll brought to you by Fritz Wuehler. Try c.s.m.a. next time, dummy. Confused, fangurl This is CSMA. Try not to worry so much. We know the courts decision was a blow to you. it isn't. To you, maybe not, but to him a huge blow. And I'm happy for you. Maybe you can get an audience with Tim Cook for all your undying loyalty. Maybe he will take you out to dinner. Tim Cook would invite him up for coffee, actually. - -- Silver Slimer Islam is a disease -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJX8sA+AAoJEIwFfgf/rr+uiuEH/iT6xe5Z+tuV+rKKWctPv4ZD SPUco+cG/pCCqV2AXCxbj1r94SGEy7aZPflaPpi3RgagAOuhUZWLeg0kNKp bF1Gn 43+yxnijsDsHmeyQQ7wuJ0RZODzwKl2ramE42eQ3BTdJJyvceZ HOetLTdNfeWcp7 /ZlxUjm74BZLFjv5xoyXYZ/5OyX7mG6PRqZiwbAJXWKvLY9xLPmzyQC7QPSCpbmz vSMBQoPbxoHKG+RVmeqskMzateL8h2O0N87enpaGy7bpXYtEdD N9KoYodj6Hxr+s aSKC0qDdU05mxHylKywAb+EHPnCDL4INQRsURbGYVyaWLH7IOe K1er48BIs3HrI= =sFUq -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- |
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Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX.
In article , Mongoose
wrote: Especially in the light of they don't pay any taxes. apple pays a ****load of taxes. But not their fair share. wrong. they pay every penny they're required to pay. google, microsoft, facebook, intel and many others use the same tax code in the same way, but as is typical with haters, they get a free pass. |
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Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal)loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX.
On 2016-10-03, Silver Slimer wrote:
On 2016-10-03 1:26 PM, Alan Baker wrote: On 2016-10-03 9:26 AM, Mongoose wrote: "Jolly Roger" wrote in message ... Fritz Wuehler wrote: Apple has been ordered to pay $302.4 million to the patent holding and security software company VirnetX Oh no, the sky is falling! : D Corrupt court known for siding with patent trolls gives Apple a slap on the wrist for doing nothing wrong. You fangurls are really stupid. Apple screws you without vaseline, and you bend over for more. How do they do that: by making products that people want and selling them at prices those people are willing to pay? Except they don't do that. They make LIMITED hardware at exorbitant prices knowing that there are enough dumb people out there willing to buy it as a fashion statement. I wouldn't go so far as to call them dumb people but they are people who like the Apple culture, prefer the ease of use right from the moment they take the system out of the box and so forth. And Apple support is number one by far. People are willing to pay extra for that. That being said, there is nothing magical about Apple hardware or software for that matter with one exception and that is it is all controlled tightly (although that seems to be fading a bit with the last updates) so it tends to work well together. $300 million is a drop in the bucket for a company that takes in over $18 billion a quarter. Apple makes enough money in profit to pay this fine in a couple days. Big deal. Especially in the light of they don't pay any taxes. Bull****. It's accurate. Apple's taxes are mostly paid elsewhere and they've been avoiding giving the United States even a dime. They went to court over it near and after Jobs' death and Tim Cook was asked point-blank why Apple avoids paying taxes in the United States. Try to pause your fanboyism for a day to look it up. As long as Apple isn't doing anything illegal, they would be doing their shareholders a disservice if they were paying more taxes than legally required. The same goes for Trump BTW. What kind of an idiot doesn't try to reduce his taxes LEGALLY by using every line in the tax code to his advantage? Every single one of us in USA does it every year. Key word LEGALLY. |
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Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX.
In article , Jim Polaski
wrote: As long as Apple isn't doing anything illegal, they would be doing their shareholders a disservice if they were paying more taxes than legally required. The same goes for Trump BTW. What kind of an idiot doesn't try to reduce his taxes LEGALLY by using every line in the tax code to his advantage? Every single one of us in USA does it every year. Key word LEGALLY. yep. https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Learned_Hand Billings Learned Hand (January 27, 1872 * August 18, 1961), usually called simply Learned Hand, was an American judge famous as an avid supporter of free speech and for applying economic reasoning to American tort law. He is noted as one of the most influential American judges to have never served on the Supreme Court of the United States. .... € Any one may so arrange his affairs that his taxes shall be as low as possible; he is not bound to choose that pattern which will best pay the Treasury; there is not even a patriotic duty to increase one's taxes. € Helvering v. Gregory, 69 F.2d 809, 810-11 (2d Cir. 1934). .... € Over and over again courts have said that there is nothing sinister in so arranging one's affairs as to keep taxes as low as possible. Everybody does so, rich or poor; and all do right, for nobody owes any public duty to pay more than the law demands: taxes are enforced exactions, not voluntary contributions. To demand more in the name of morals is mere cant. € Commissioner v. Newman, 159 F2d 848 (1947). |
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Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) losespatent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX.
In article nospam wrote:
now look up that it's not a sweetheart deal nor is it specific to apple, but rather it's part of the tax code itself and completely legal. also look up that apple isn't the only company to legally use the tax code in that manner. google, microsoft, facebook, intel and others do the same thing. after that, look up that ireland is siding with apple, *not* the eu. in other words, ireland doesn't want apple to pay and it's questionable whether the eu has any say in the matter in the first place. http://www.reuters.com/article/us-eu...reland-idUSKCN 1180WR The bad guys are sitting in the Irish parliament. For centuries Ireland tried to convert from an agricultural country to a worthless nonproductive banking nation at the EU's expense. And that plan was paid by the EU twice, by direct funding and by a big loss of taxes due to Ireland's irresponsibe tax dumping strategy, which allowed companies to avoid payments on a large scale. On top of that, when in 2008 the economic bubble burst, they once again held out their hands to be bailed out by the EU and the IMF with additional multi-billion Euro benefits. When will EU representatives recognize that it's time to end that farce, time to make the spalpeens understand that solidarity has to be mutual. http://www.cnbc.com/2016/08/30/how-a...e-in-2014.html |
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Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) losespatent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX.
In article
Silver Slimer wrote: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 2016-10-03 2:56 PM, Silver Slimer wrote: On 2016-10-03 2:35 PM, Alan Baker wrote: On 2016-10-03 11:27 AM, Silver Slimer wrote: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 2016-10-03 2:19 PM, Alan Baker wrote: On 2016-10-03 11:09 AM, Silver Slimer wrote: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 2016-10-03 1:26 PM, Alan Baker wrote: On 2016-10-03 9:26 AM, Mongoose wrote: "Jolly Roger" wrote in message ... Fritz Wuehler wrote: Apple has been ordered to pay $302.4 million to the patent holding and security software company VirnetX Oh no, the sky is falling! : D Corrupt court known for siding with patent trolls gives Apple a slap on the wrist for doing nothing wrong. You fangurls are really stupid. Apple screws you without vaseline, and you bend over for more. How do they do that: by making products that people want and selling them at prices those people are willing to pay? Except they don't do that. They make LIMITED hardware at exorbitant prices knowing that there are enough dumb people out there willing to buy it as a fashion statement. In your limited opinion... $300 million is a drop in the bucket for a company that takes in over $18 billion a quarter. Apple makes enough money in profit to pay this fine in a couple days. Big deal. Especially in the light of they don't pay any taxes. Bull****. It's accurate. Apple's taxes are mostly paid elsewhere and they've been avoiding giving the United States even a dime. They went to court over it near and after Jobs' death and Tim Cook was asked point-blank why Apple avoids paying taxes in the United States. Try to pause your fanboyism for a day to look it up. Apple pays a HUGE amount in taxes, and they use legal means to avoid paying more than they have to. 'It’s the third thing that’s so interesting though. About this shifting of cash flows and tax debts through time. Last year Apple made provisions for tax of $8.283 billion (Provision for income taxes 8,283). Which was indeed 24.2% of their profits declared in that year. Now, in this trading year they’ve actually paid over $7.682 billion.' http://www.forbes.com/sites/timworst...o-how-much-tax - - di d-apple-pay/#36b183145fa9 Apple pays a lot but also avoids paying a lot. To be fair, I would probably do the same in their position since the United States have taken it upon themselves to tax the crap out of corporations to the extent that none of them want to do business in your country anymore but it's still unethical for an American company to do so. Now let's see a cite for your claim. http://abcnews.go.com/Business/apple...tifies/story?i d =19 219178 Your claim was: 'They went to court over it near and after Jobs' death' A congressional subcommittee hearing is not a court. And yet Apple received a _court_ order. https://secure.marke****ch.com/story...rt-order-threa te ns-the-security-of-customers-2016-02-17 Geez, stop being a retarded fanboy. Whoops, I posted the wrong link there. One, about what's going on in the United States by Apple: http://www.cnbc.com/2016/08/14/tim-c...us-taxes-says- no-repatriation-without-fair-rate.html ... they want a fair rate but: http://ca.finance.ret1p.global.media...ook-attacks-eu - -tax-114817858.html Turns out they weren't paying their fair share according to the _court_ . - -- Silver Slimer Islam is a disease -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJX8qsZAAoJEIwFfgf/rr+uc84IAIPlCO3u0N4U5gjAvwgbGSaO z/JoKZ0a8hDlMG+q6xw1vxsakOEyQd+Q0g7k/+C2/j9pTo8t7p+bxa1ZfrNE4PqB 0hXclKNNyx/h8IdBpRiclurPyMi+zwH84NcXIBXe7dyOseD305x81qLogdGra 1cw Dfu757c4tjpIPp3AqYuvflmnKGh0m6wTmgwM6b2FlE9oOV7xK6 NYlHyujyG0IYzr c8iQMumds/FpEypNCSHKgZJeKfcfks8BV5L6xPpjqrIqNPNeQlrVAnv1MDEX wv58 2W+quH2/injsc+R16Tb/PLifmBx63uMlxNF4GDlXAVvlI5Sl40Z1gSptsjZbCOM= =0MbM -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- |
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Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) losespatent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX.
On 2016-10-03 2:30 PM, Anonymous wrote:
In article nospam wrote: now look up that it's not a sweetheart deal nor is it specific to apple, but rather it's part of the tax code itself and completely legal. also look up that apple isn't the only company to legally use the tax code in that manner. google, microsoft, facebook, intel and others do the same thing. after that, look up that ireland is siding with apple, *not* the eu. in other words, ireland doesn't want apple to pay and it's questionable whether the eu has any say in the matter in the first place. http://www.reuters.com/article/us-eu...reland-idUSKCN 1180WR The bad guys are sitting in the Irish parliament. For centuries Ireland tried to convert from an agricultural country to a worthless nonproductive banking nation at the EU's expense. And that plan was paid by the EU twice, by direct funding and by a big loss of taxes due to Ireland's irresponsibe tax dumping strategy, which allowed companies to avoid payments on a large scale. On top of that, when in 2008 the economic bubble burst, they once again held out their hands to be bailed out by the EU and the IMF with additional multi-billion Euro benefits. When will EU representatives recognize that it's time to end that farce, time to make the spalpeens understand that solidarity has to be mutual. http://www.cnbc.com/2016/08/30/how-a...e-in-2014.html Again: how is Apple doing anything different than what anyone else does: i.e. organizing its affairs to take advantage of the tax laws? |
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Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX.
"nospam" wrote in message ... In article , Mongoose wrote: Especially in the light of they don't pay any taxes. apple pays a ****load of taxes. But not their fair share. wrong. they pay every penny they're required to pay. At the expense of US taxpayers. google, microsoft, facebook, intel and many others use the same tax code in the same way, but as is typical with haters, they get a free pass. The only haters here are Appholes like you. No one really cares about google, microsoft, facebook, intel. Only you Appholes make it your lifes work to defend an uncaring corporate entity. Something must be lacking in your life. Buy another Apple toy, it might assuage your discontent. |
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Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX.
In article , Alan Baker
wrote: Again: how is Apple doing anything different than what anyone else does: i.e. organizing its affairs to take advantage of the tax laws? they're doing the same thing plenty of other companies do, who all get a free pass. http://www.taxjusticeblog.org/archiv...tax_avoidance_ from.php You may have heard about Google Inc.¹s restructuring last year, which resulted in the technology company becoming a wholly owned subsidiary of a new Delaware corporation called Alphabet Inc. What you may not know is how this restructuring can help the company potentially avoid millions in state taxes. .... As of the end of 2015, Google had $58.3 billion in offshore ³permanently reinvested² profits on which it pays no U.S. taxes, up from $47.4 billion in 2014. |
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Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX.
In article , Mongoose
wrote: "nospam" wrote in message ... Especially in the light of they don't pay any taxes. apple pays a ****load of taxes. But not their fair share. wrong. they pay every penny they're required to pay. At the expense of US taxpayers. nope. google, microsoft, facebook, intel and many others use the same tax code in the same way, but as is typical with haters, they get a free pass. The only haters here are Appholes like you. No one really cares about google, microsoft, facebook, intel. exactly my point. http://www.taxjusticeblog.org/archiv...tax_avoidance_ from.php You may have heard about Google Inc.¹s restructuring last year, which resulted in the technology company becoming a wholly owned subsidiary of a new Delaware corporation called Alphabet Inc. What you may not know is how this restructuring can help the company potentially avoid millions in state taxes. .... As of the end of 2015, Google had $58.3 billion in offshore ³permanently reinvested² profits on which it pays no U.S. taxes, up from $47.4 billion in 2014. Only you Appholes make it your lifes work to defend an uncaring corporate entity. Something must be lacking in your life. Buy another Apple toy, it might assuage your discontent. i'm not defending anything. i'm just pointing out how much of a hypocrite you and your ilk are. apple is doing *nothing* illegal, and ireland is on *apple's* side, appealing the eu decision. |
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