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Got this error message, too!
Expected it to eventually display the Win10 login screen but it didn't. ??? |
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On 11/8/2018 7:48 PM, Alek wrote:
Got this error message, too! Expected it to eventually display the Win10 login screen but it didn't. ??? I believe that if Donald Trump licks your ass and eats your feces, the bootup error will go away. Give him a call. |
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"Alek" wrote
| | Expected it to eventually display the Win10 login screen but it didn't. ??? Keith's theory sounds likely -- a dying disk. I dealt with something similar in Win8 recently. The disk was known bad but I was hoping to get data off of it. It just kept cycling with various errors. You could have bad RAM but that usually manifests more as functionality problems. Like things work OK but suddenly crash. Over the years Microsoft have added things like repair that seem useful, but they don't seem to do much and can't usually tell you what the problem is. I've also tried disk analysis software but got different results with each one. You didn't say anything about the type of computer or whether you have backup. If you have a disk image you might want to try picking up a new hard disk and installing it to that. Then see if you can get your data off the old disk. |
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Mayayana wrote on 11/8/2018 9:28 PM:
"Alek" wrote | | Expected it to eventually display the Win10 login screen but it didn't. ??? Keith's theory sounds likely -- a dying disk. I dealt with something similar in Win8 recently. The disk was known bad but I was hoping to get data off of it. It just kept cycling with various errors. You could have bad RAM but that usually manifests more as functionality problems. Like things work OK but suddenly crash. Over the years Microsoft have added things like repair that seem useful, but they don't seem to do much and can't usually tell you what the problem is. I've also tried disk analysis software but got different results with each one. You didn't say anything about the type of computer or whether you have backup. If you have a disk image you might want to try picking up a new hard disk and installing it to that. Then see if you can get your data off the old disk. The boot disk is a 5-month-old M.2 SSD. How does that change things? |
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"Alek" wrote
| The boot disk is a 5-month-old M.2 SSD. How does that change things? I guess that makes it a less likely culprit. But it doesn't rule it out. There are things you can try that are fairly easy, to rule out some things: Run memtest86 to test the RAM. Check all connections to make sure nothing is loose. Sometimes just taking out a RAM stick and putting it back in will fix "faulty" RAM. I'd be surprised if the battery is a problem. That usually manifests as a clock that keeps losing time. Usually you can also find good info online by searching for the exact text of the error. Though you have to watch out for know-it-alls who will throw out quick answers. Also watch out for companies that want to sell you a product to fix exactly the problem you have. Even better is to get any error code. That's usually something like: 0x00001234 (0x00001234, 0x00001234, 0x00001234, 0x00001234) Each part means something. Search for the exact text of some or all of the error code. |
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On Fri, 9 Nov 2018 19:24:22 -0500, Alek
wrote: Mayayana wrote on 11/8/2018 9:28 PM: "Alek" wrote | | Expected it to eventually display the Win10 login screen but it didn't. ??? Keith's theory sounds likely -- a dying disk. I dealt with something similar in Win8 recently. The disk was known bad but I was hoping to get data off of it. It just kept cycling with various errors. You could have bad RAM but that usually manifests more as functionality problems. Like things work OK but suddenly crash. Over the years Microsoft have added things like repair that seem useful, but they don't seem to do much and can't usually tell you what the problem is. I've also tried disk analysis software but got different results with each one. You didn't say anything about the type of computer or whether you have backup. If you have a disk image you might want to try picking up a new hard disk and installing it to that. Then see if you can get your data off the old disk. The boot disk is a 5-month-old M.2 SSD. How does that change things? I had a call from a near neighbor about a year ago and he was having a problem with his recently installed M2 SSD card. He plugged his SSD card in its socket and it worked for a few months and then it failed. He didn't realise that he should also install a holding screw in the other end of the SSD card to secure it in its socket ! You can guess the result of this oversight. Fortunately there was no damage to the SSD card and his problem was easy to fix. |
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Alek wrote:
The boot disk is a 5-month-old M.2 SSD. How does that change things? Do you have a backup image of the drive ? How old is it (i.e. is the backup image relevant or irrelevant at this point) ? A really old backup isn't much good if you're about to lose a lot of data files. In a previous thread, you're missing a SYSTEM registry file. In this thread, you're missing some small boot ingredient. I'd want to boot some environment, where I could look at the volume in question. Even booting the Win10 installer DVD is better than nothing. In the troubleshooting section, it has a Command Prompt button. From there, you can "dir C:" or "dir D:" and so on. Testdisk has a list files option, which you could test if the volume isn't too trashed. The Automatic Repair may have already tried to run CHKDSK. At one time, it would spend two hours doing a bad block scan, but doesn't seem to be doing that now. I've had these Automatic Repairs too, but for a different easy to fix reason. All I had to do was get into Safe Mode (mine was a driver problem, and the BSOD error STOP code right away gives the breadcrumb needed). Paul |
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Paul wrote on 11/10/2018 2:52 AM:
Alek wrote: The boot disk is a 5-month-old M.2 SSD. How does that change things? Do you have a backup image of the drive ? Yes. Current. In a previous thread, you're missing a SYSTEM registry file. I don't follow this. What exactly am I missing and why? In this thread, you're missing some small boot ingredient. I don't follow this. What exactly am I missing and why? I'd want to boot some environment, where I could look at the volume in question. Even booting the Win10 installer DVD is better than nothing. In the troubleshooting section, it has a Command Prompt button. From there, you can "dir C:" or "dir D:" and so on. Testdisk has a list files option, which you could test if the volume isn't too trashed. The Automatic Repair may have already tried to run CHKDSK. At one time, it would spend two hours doing a bad block scan, but doesn't seem to be doing that now. I've had these Automatic Repairs too, but for a different easy to fix reason. All I had to do was get into Safe Mode (mine was a driver problem, and the BSOD error STOP code right away gives the breadcrumb needed). Today when I booted up, everything was fine. :-) Go figure. Incidentally, every time I had tried to get into Safe Mode (shift Restart), I got to "Choose an option" but with just one option: Shutdown your PC"!! ??? Thanks, all, for your suggestions. |
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Mayayana wrote on 11/9/2018 8:12 PM:
"Alek" wrote | The boot disk is a 5-month-old M.2 SSD. How does that change things? I guess that makes it a less likely culprit. But it doesn't rule it out. There are things you can try that are fairly easy, to rule out some things: Run memtest86 to test the RAM. Check all connections to make sure nothing is loose. Sometimes just taking out a RAM stick and putting it back in will fix "faulty" RAM. I'd be surprised if the battery is a problem. That usually manifests as a clock that keeps losing time. Usually you can also find good info online by searching for the exact text of the error. Though you have to watch out for know-it-alls who will throw out quick answers. Also watch out for companies that want to sell you a product to fix exactly the problem you have. Even better is to get any error code. That's usually something like: 0x00001234 (0x00001234, 0x00001234, 0x00001234, 0x00001234) Each part means something. Search for the exact text of some or all of the error code. Thanks b ut there was no error code. Weird, huh? |
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Alek wrote:
Incidentally, every time I had tried to get into Safe Mode (shift Restart), I got to "Choose an option" but with just one option: Shutdown your PC"!! ??? Thanks, all, for your suggestions. The last time I tried "shift", nothing happened. I could not get into Safe Mode that way. ******* On some of my Win10 installs, I have this set up in bcd, using the bcdedit command. https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/...dows-10-a.html Now, mine is set to "Standard" and yet the black screen appears. I can access Safe Mode options when this screen is displayed, by pressing F8 in that screen. The Safe Mode option is then accessed by pressing a single digit key such as "4" (not shown in my picture, but on the tenforums pictures). https://i.postimg.cc/6395hcrc/boot-menu-policy.gif You use an Administrator Command Prompt, so bcdedit is elevated enough to change the bcd file. My guess would be, that the "DisplayBootMenu" item is the most important. You can rinse and repeat, after adding it and see what happens. Try standard or legacy for the other one etc. ******* As for why you got Shutdown, that's a "short story". As far as I know, the GUIDs for each storage partition aren't stored in the partitions themselves. Or at least, I couldn't find them. I suspect the Registry has to be fully operational, for booting to work (look up GUID in registry). The boot process might be more "tortured" than it looks, at a guess. If it doesn't actually know where C: is, then the only option it could offer is shutdown. Paul |
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