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When I run SpeedFan, it says I have 3680 reallocated sectors while HDTune says everything is fine.
Anyone else seen this ? Thanks, Andy |
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Andy wrote:
When I run SpeedFan, it says I have 3680 reallocated sectors while HDTune says everything is fine. Anyone else seen this ? Thanks, Andy Take a look at the raw parameters, and see if Speedfan is interpreting the wrong offset as "reallocations". SMART isn't as standardized as you'd think. It's pretty difficult for a software developer to know about all the issues, and write a "perfect" reporting utility. Really, Seagate should write a utility for Seagate drives, WD should write a utility for WD drives, and so on. That would be the solution to the problem. Not by getting your readout from Speedfan or HDTune. The companies that made the mess, should clean it up. Paul |
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I do not think those utilities are reliable.
They have shown "supposed" problems for several years yet I have never lost any data. I make daily images. Andy |
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Paul wrote on 2/3/2015 4:00 PM:
Andy wrote: When I run SpeedFan, it says I have 3680 reallocated sectors while HDTune says everything is fine. Anyone else seen this ? Thanks, Andy Take a look at the raw parameters, and see if Speedfan is interpreting the wrong offset as "reallocations". SMART isn't as standardized as you'd think. It's pretty difficult for a software developer to know about all the issues, and write a "perfect" reporting utility. Really, Seagate should write a utility for Seagate drives, WD should write a utility for WD drives, and so on. That would be the solution to the problem. Not by getting your readout from Speedfan or HDTune. The companies that made the mess, should clean it up. Paul Hello, As I understand it the interpretation of SMART values is "roll your own". However, the main field names (and identifier) are specified. So the issue is converting raw values to something sensible. -- Jeff Barnett |
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When I run SpeedFan, it says I have 3680 reallocated sectors while
HDTune says everything is fine. Anyone else seen this ? Take a look at the raw parameters, and see if Speedfan is interpreting the wrong offset as "reallocations". SMART isn't as standardized as you'd think. It's pretty difficult for a software developer to know about all the issues, and write a "perfect" reporting utility. Really, Seagate should write a utility for Seagate drives, WD should write a utility for WD drives, and so on. That would be the solution to the problem. Not by getting your readout from Speedfan or HDTune. The companies that made the mess, should clean it up. How come there aren't a SMART standards? -- "Every ruler sleeps on an anthill." --Afghani /\___/\ Ant(Dude) @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) / /\ /\ \ Ant's Quality Foraged Links: http://aqfl.net | |o o| | \ _ / If crediting, then use Ant nickname and AQFL URL/link. ( ) If e-mailing, then axe ANT from its address if needed. Ant is currently not listening to any songs on this computer. |
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Ant wrote:
When I run SpeedFan, it says I have 3680 reallocated sectors while HDTune says everything is fine. Anyone else seen this ? Take a look at the raw parameters, and see if Speedfan is interpreting the wrong offset as "reallocations". SMART isn't as standardized as you'd think. It's pretty difficult for a software developer to know about all the issues, and write a "perfect" reporting utility. Really, Seagate should write a utility for Seagate drives, WD should write a utility for WD drives, and so on. That would be the solution to the problem. Not by getting your readout from Speedfan or HDTune. The companies that made the mess, should clean it up. How come there aren't a SMART standards? The t13.org site contains a number of ATA/ATAPI standards organization documents. The fun part, is figuring out where this stuff is located (SMART Attribute Annex). I know it'll be on here somewhere, but I can't pull these rabbits out of a hat when I need them. http://www.t13.org/Documents/Uploade...butesAnnex.pdf The standard has a number of annexes at the back, but the ones I have on disk here, I'm not finding the SMART log most people are used to seeing. There are also SMART tests you can run on a disk, immediate tests - something the diagnostics from the two companies undoubtedly call when doing the warranty claim tests. For some comedy, I've extracted a bit of text from the above document. In it, someone appears to want to assemble a list of SMART table entries already in usage. "Partial list of SMART Attributes Identifiers This is a list of SMART attributes and names obtained from an opensource project. [Note: This list was originally obtained from sourceforge.net, as compiled by Bruce Allen. I have edited some of the descriptions for grammar and spelling. ] This list is not intended to be comprehensive, complete or authoritative. Some of the IDs listed have other names and uses that are vendor-specific. Some of these have been obsolete for a long time and are not supported. The descriptions are vague and subject to multiple interpretations. Consider everything in this list to be vendor-specific: scale, measurement units, threshholds, when they get cleared, minimum and maximum values." Now that quotation is from the year 2005, and I'm *sure* by now things are a lot better :-) LOL. "Round up the usual suspects" Imagine you're a standards body, and things are so well documented, you're extracting stuff from Sourceforge :-) That could have been a project like SMARTMonTools. Paul |
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I ran the extensive disk test and it came out as 98% healthy.
Andy |
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In message , Paul
writes: [] The t13.org site contains a number of ATA/ATAPI standards organization documents. The fun part, is figuring out where this stuff is located (SMART Attribute Annex). [] The standard has a number of annexes at the back, but the ones I have on disk here, I'm not finding the SMART log most [] or authoritative. Some of the IDs listed have other names and uses that are vendor-specific. [] You are in a maze of twisty standards, all alike ... -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf "You know what they say. In London you're never more than ten feet away from a lying politician." The Downing Street rat, "quoted" by Rod Liddle in Radio Times, 12-18 February 2011 |
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On 2015-02-03 16:45, Andy wrote:
When I run SpeedFan, it says I have 3680 reallocated sectors while HDTune says everything is fine. Anyone else seen this ? Thanks, Andy Might want to get a 3rd opinion; this one works fine for me and is able to get USB disks SMART stats where other tools have failed: http://www.passmark.com/products/diskcheckup.htm Regards, -- ! _\|/_ Sylvain / ! (o o) Member-+-David-Suzuki-Foundation/EFF/Planetary-Society-+- oO-( )-Oo BIT: The increment by which programmers slowly go mad. |
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On Thu, 5 Feb 2015 23:21:17 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
wrote: [snip] You are in a maze of twisty standards, all alike ... No, the problem is that they are all different. Sincerely, Gene Wirchenko |
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In message , Gene Wirchenko
writes: On Thu, 5 Feb 2015 23:21:17 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote: [snip] You are in a maze of twisty standards, all alike ... No, the problem is that they are all different. Sincerely, Gene Wirchenko It was an adventurous reference ... (-: [and not original either!] -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf Look out for #1. Don't step in #2 either. |
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On Fri, 6 Feb 2015 22:35:36 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
wrote: In message , Gene Wirchenko writes: On Thu, 5 Feb 2015 23:21:17 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote: [snip] You are in a maze of twisty standards, all alike ... No, the problem is that they are all different. It was an adventurous reference ... (-: [and not original either!] There was more than one maze in the Colossal Cave. One was the all-same, and the other was the all-different. Sincerely, Gene Wirchenko |
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