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  #31  
Old October 19th 04, 03:17 PM
Prabhat
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Default Which Registry Cleaner?

Hi Jim, Well Placed.

Thanks
Prabhat

"Jim Byrd" wrote in message
...
Hi Prabhat - In my experience all of these Reg cleaners, even the best,

are
fraught with danger. I advise against using them except in one specific
instance, that is when you have one that is capable of doing specific Reg
searches, and you NEED (not just WANT) to remove the remaining traces of
something that didn't get uninstalled correctly. (and you didn't have
foresight enough to install it using Total Uninstall,
http://www.geocities.com/ggmartau/tu.html or direct dwnld he
http://files.webattack.com/localdl834/tun234.zip, in the first place.)

Lastly, if you must screw around with your Registry, then at least get
Erunt/Erdnt, and run it before you do the Reg clean. You'll then have a
true restore available to you. Read below to see why you might not just
using the Reg cleaner's resto

Get Erunt here for all NT-based computers including XP:
http://home.t-online.de/home/lars.he...runt/index.htm I've set it up

to
take a scheduled backup each night at 12:01AM on a weekly round-robin

basis,
and a Monthly on the 1st of each month. See here for how to set that up:
http://home.t-online.de/home/lars.he...runt/erunt.txt, and for some
useful information about this subject.

This program is one of the best things around - saved my butt on many
occasions, and will also run very nicely from a DOS prompt (in case you've
done something that won't let you boot any more and need to revert to a
previous Registry) IF you're FAT32 OR have a DOS startup disk with NTFS
write drivers in an NTFS system. (There is also a way using the Recovery
Console to get back to being "bootable" even without separate DOS write

NTFS
drivers, after which you can do a "normal" Erdnt restore.) (BTW, it also
includes a Registry defragger program). Free, and very, very highly
recommended.

FYI, quoting from the above document:

"Note: The "Export registry" function in Regedit is USELESS (!) to make a
complete backup of the registry. Neither does it export the whole registry
(for example, no information from the "SECURITY" hive is saved), nor can

the
exported file be used later to replace the current registry with the old
one. Instead, if you re-import the file, it is merged with the current
registry, leaving you with an absolute mess of old and new registry keys.

--
Please respond in the same thread.
Regards, Jim Byrd, MS-MVP



In ,
Prabhat typed:
I don't know, But the people from Microsoft or MVPs should able to
reply this.

Thanks
Prabhat

"
wrote in message
...
Do I understand correctly, that XP removes redundant registry
entries left behind when programmes are un-installed.

"Prabhat" wrote in message
...
Hi All,

I have XP + SP1. I use Microsoft OLD RegClean.

Is this the Best Registry Cleaner Available? Or If not which one I
should Go
For my XP System?

Thanks
Prabhat




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  #32  
Old October 19th 04, 03:22 PM
Prabhat
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Default Which Registry Cleaner?

Hi Richard,

Thanks for the Test Result
Prabhat

"Richard Urban" wrote in message
...
Consider this then!

I performed a clean install a month ago, just to test this theory.

Clean install. Added SP1 and all available Window Updates. Installed all

my
programs (had a lot of time on my hands). Then I installed SP2.

I ran WinDoctor and eliminated about 600 bad entries in the registry. I
rebooted and emptied the recycle bin.

I then ran NTREGopt.exe ( from ERUNT). This optimized (compacted) the
registry. I obtained a 19% gain in the reduction of the registry size

(about
8.5 meg smaller).

When I rebooted I was able to "CLOCK" - via a stop watch, a 23 second
reduction in bootup time to a usable desktop!

--

Regards:

Richard Urban

aka Crusty (-: Old B@stard :-)


"Ted Zieglar" wrote in message
...
Do you really think so?

Consider this:

How many megabytes of memory does, say, one thousand redundant registry
keys
occupy? How much RAM do you have installed? How fast is your hardware?

You accomplish nothing measurable (let alone perceptable) by eliminating
those thousand registry keys, but you risk crippling your system with a
so-called registry cleaner toy.

If you're interested in speeding up your system in a way that you can
actually notice, and you're already diligent about maintaining your
computer, buy more RAM, a faster hard disk or a faster video card.
--
Ted Zieglar


"Prabhat" wrote in message
...
Hi Ted,

Doeas Registry Gets Load while the Windows Load? If yes Then that

should
affect the System Performance if the Size grows due to Unwanted Values

in
it.

Thanks
Prabhat

"Ted Zieglar" wrote in message
...
Wesley is correct, of course.

The proper way to deal with the registry is to leave it alone, unless

you
need to fix a specific problem that can only be repaired by editing

the
registry.

Redundant registry entries cause no harm to your computer and do not
affect
its performance.
--
Ted Zieglar


"Wesley Vogel" wrote in message
...
No. XP does not do this.

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.
Wes

In ,


hunted and pecked:
Do I understand correctly, that XP removes redundant registry

entries
left behind when programmes are un-installed.

"Prabhat" wrote in message
...
Hi All,

I have XP + SP1. I use Microsoft OLD RegClean.

Is this the Best Registry Cleaner Available? Or If not which one

I
should Go
For my XP System?

Thanks
Prabhat











  #33  
Old October 19th 04, 03:28 PM
Prabhat
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Posts: n/a
Default Which Registry Cleaner?

Hi All,

I Got Looooots of thing from this Discussion.
Probably I come to comclusion that If we are Good in Registry Keys then
Better We keep the Backup and Do it our self, Only if the Uninstaller of any
Application leaves some thing or XP Itself does not compact the Registry.

Thanks All
Prabhat

"Wesley Vogel" wrote in message
...
Use NTREGOPT.

NTREGOPT NT Registry Optimizer
ERUNT The Emergency Recovery Utility NT
http://home.t-online.de/home/lars.hederer/erunt/

ERUNT [[Note: The "Export registry" function in Regedit is USELESS (!) to
make
a complete backup of the registry. Neither does it export the whole
registry (for example, no information from the "SECURITY" hive is
saved), nor can the exported file be used later to replace the current
registry with the old one. Instead, if you re-import the file, it is
merged with the current registry, leaving you with an absolute mess of
old and new registry keys.]]
http://home.t-online.de/home/lars.he...runt/erunt.txt

NTREGOPT [[Similar to Windows 9x/Me, the registry files in an NT-based
system
can become fragmented over time, occupying more space on your hard
disk than necessary and decreasing overall performance. You should
use the NTREGOPT utility regularly, but especially after installing
or uninstalling a program, to minimize the size of the registry files
and optimize registry access.

The program works by recreating each registry hive "from scratch",
thus removing any slack space that may be left from previously
modified or deleted keys.

Note that the program does NOT change the contents of the registry in
any way, nor does it physically defrag the registry files on the drive
(as the PageDefrag program from SysInternals does). The optimization
done by NTREGOPT is simply compacting the registry hives to the
minimum size possible.]]
http://home.t-online.de/home/lars.he...t/ntregopt.txt

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.
Wes

In ,
Prabhat hunted and pecked:
Hi Ted,

Doeas Registry Gets Load while the Windows Load? If yes Then that
should affect the System Performance if the Size grows due to
Unwanted Values in it.

Thanks
Prabhat

"Ted Zieglar" wrote in message
...
Wesley is correct, of course.

The proper way to deal with the registry is to leave it alone,
unless you need to fix a specific problem that can only be repaired
by editing the registry.

Redundant registry entries cause no harm to your computer and do not
affect its performance.
--
Ted Zieglar


"Wesley Vogel" wrote in message
...
No. XP does not do this.

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.
Wes

In ,


hunted and pecked:
Do I understand correctly, that XP removes redundant registry
entries left behind when programmes are un-installed.

"Prabhat" wrote in message
...
Hi All,

I have XP + SP1. I use Microsoft OLD RegClean.

Is this the Best Registry Cleaner Available? Or If not which one I
should Go
For my XP System?

Thanks
Prabhat




  #34  
Old October 19th 04, 07:12 PM
Testy
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Posts: n/a
Default Which Registry Cleaner?

The main problem with all registry cleaners is that if you don't know what
you are doing you can trash your system, And if you do know what you are
doing you don't need them.

Testy
\
"Prabhat" wrote in message
...
Hi All,

I Got Looooots of thing from this Discussion.
Probably I come to comclusion that If we are Good in Registry Keys then
Better We keep the Backup and Do it our self, Only if the Uninstaller of
any
Application leaves some thing or XP Itself does not compact the Registry.

Thanks All
Prabhat

"Wesley Vogel" wrote in message
...
Use NTREGOPT.

NTREGOPT NT Registry Optimizer
ERUNT The Emergency Recovery Utility NT
http://home.t-online.de/home/lars.hederer/erunt/

ERUNT [[Note: The "Export registry" function in Regedit is USELESS (!)
to
make
a complete backup of the registry. Neither does it export the whole
registry (for example, no information from the "SECURITY" hive is
saved), nor can the exported file be used later to replace the current
registry with the old one. Instead, if you re-import the file, it is
merged with the current registry, leaving you with an absolute mess of
old and new registry keys.]]
http://home.t-online.de/home/lars.he...runt/erunt.txt

NTREGOPT [[Similar to Windows 9x/Me, the registry files in an NT-based
system
can become fragmented over time, occupying more space on your hard
disk than necessary and decreasing overall performance. You should
use the NTREGOPT utility regularly, but especially after installing
or uninstalling a program, to minimize the size of the registry files
and optimize registry access.

The program works by recreating each registry hive "from scratch",
thus removing any slack space that may be left from previously
modified or deleted keys.

Note that the program does NOT change the contents of the registry in
any way, nor does it physically defrag the registry files on the drive
(as the PageDefrag program from SysInternals does). The optimization
done by NTREGOPT is simply compacting the registry hives to the
minimum size possible.]]
http://home.t-online.de/home/lars.he...t/ntregopt.txt

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.
Wes

In ,
Prabhat hunted and pecked:
Hi Ted,

Doeas Registry Gets Load while the Windows Load? If yes Then that
should affect the System Performance if the Size grows due to
Unwanted Values in it.

Thanks
Prabhat

"Ted Zieglar" wrote in message
...
Wesley is correct, of course.

The proper way to deal with the registry is to leave it alone,
unless you need to fix a specific problem that can only be repaired
by editing the registry.

Redundant registry entries cause no harm to your computer and do not
affect its performance.
--
Ted Zieglar


"Wesley Vogel" wrote in message
...
No. XP does not do this.

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.
Wes

In ,


hunted and pecked:
Do I understand correctly, that XP removes redundant registry
entries left behind when programmes are un-installed.

"Prabhat" wrote in message
...
Hi All,

I have XP + SP1. I use Microsoft OLD RegClean.

Is this the Best Registry Cleaner Available? Or If not which one I
should Go
For my XP System?

Thanks
Prabhat






  #35  
Old October 19th 04, 07:13 PM
Unknown
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default Which Registry Cleaner?

Just installing SP2 will create many, many useless registry entries. I suggest
you use a stop watch and time your functions then do a registry clean and time
them again. You won't be convinced until you do so.
@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
Holly cow, Richard: What kind of software do you buy that causes 600
"errors" to appear in your registry? Maybe you ought to spend a little more
and get the good stuff. {;- {;-

Ted Zieglar

"Richard Urban" wrote in message
...
Told you I loaded ALL of my software, about 100 major programs and smaller
applets!

--

Regards:

Richard Urban

aka Crusty (-: Old B@stard :-)


"Ted Zieglar" wrote in message
...
The six hundred registry entries that you eliminated didn't make your
bootup
any faster. It took your system a fraction of a second to load those
registry entries into RAM; that's how much time you saved by eliminating
them.

Besides, how do you know that those 600 registry entries were "bad" --
because WinDoctor told you so? The great majority of 'errors' that
WinDoctor
finds (missing icons, broken shortcuts, etc.) are laughable. Does it seem
a
little suspicious to you that a clean install of Windows with nothing more
than Windows updates added yielded 600 "bad" registry keys?

Windows XP is continuously tuning itself in the background, establishing
the
pre-fetch, performing partial defrags, reordering the driver load (the
'secret' behind the bootvis routine), etc.

Have you ever seen an article in a computer magazine that tested registry
cleaners with 'before and after' benchmarks that measured boot times and
overall system performance?
--
Ted Zieglar


"Richard Urban" wrote in message
...
Consider this then!

I performed a clean install a month ago, just to test this theory.

Clean install. Added SP1 and all available Window Updates. Installed all
my
programs (had a lot of time on my hands). Then I installed SP2.

I ran WinDoctor and eliminated about 600 bad entries in the registry. I
rebooted and emptied the recycle bin.

I then ran NTREGopt.exe ( from ERUNT). This optimized (compacted) the
registry. I obtained a 19% gain in the reduction of the registry size
(about
8.5 meg smaller).

When I rebooted I was able to "CLOCK" - via a stop watch, a 23 second
reduction in bootup time to a usable desktop!

--

Regards:

Richard Urban

aka Crusty (-: Old B@stard :-)


"Ted Zieglar" wrote in message
...
Do you really think so?

Consider this:

How many megabytes of memory does, say, one thousand redundant registry
keys
occupy? How much RAM do you have installed? How fast is your hardware?

You accomplish nothing measurable (let alone perceptable) by
eliminating
those thousand registry keys, but you risk crippling your system with a
so-called registry cleaner toy.

If you're interested in speeding up your system in a way that you can
actually notice, and you're already diligent about maintaining your
computer, buy more RAM, a faster hard disk or a faster video card.
--
Ted Zieglar


"Prabhat" wrote in message
...
Hi Ted,

Doeas Registry Gets Load while the Windows Load? If yes Then that
should
affect the System Performance if the Size grows due to Unwanted Values
in
it.

Thanks
Prabhat

"Ted Zieglar" wrote in message
...
Wesley is correct, of course.

The proper way to deal with the registry is to leave it alone,
unless
you
need to fix a specific problem that can only be repaired by editing
the
registry.

Redundant registry entries cause no harm to your computer and do not
affect
its performance.
--
Ted Zieglar


"Wesley Vogel" wrote in message
...
No. XP does not do this.

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.
Wes

In ,


hunted and pecked:
Do I understand correctly, that XP removes redundant registry
entries
left behind when programmes are un-installed.

"Prabhat" wrote in message
...
Hi All,

I have XP + SP1. I use Microsoft OLD RegClean.

Is this the Best Registry Cleaner Available? Or If not which
one
I
should Go
For my XP System?

Thanks
Prabhat















  #36  
Old October 19th 04, 08:02 PM
Ted Zieglar
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default Which Registry Cleaner?

How about posting some of those "many, many useless registry entries" along
with your explanation of why they are useless. Or is this just your opinion?

In fact, I have tried a few of the more popular "registry cleaners"
(WinDoctor, RegCleaner, etc.) and none of them came up with anything that
would affect my system's performance or bootup. No surprise then that my
before and after bootups were identical. But I did have a good laugh about
the "errors" these toys discovered.

I won't belabor the point: There is no substitute for learning how to use a
PC correctly and to best advantage. In the long run, this will cover your
a** better than digital eye candy.
--
Ted Zieglar


"Unknown" wrote in message
om...
Just installing SP2 will create many, many useless registry entries. I

suggest
you use a stop watch and time your functions then do a registry clean and

time
them again. You won't be convinced until you do so.
@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
Holly cow, Richard: What kind of software do you buy that causes 600
"errors" to appear in your registry? Maybe you ought to spend a little

more
and get the good stuff. {;- {;-

Ted Zieglar

"Richard Urban" wrote in message
...
Told you I loaded ALL of my software, about 100 major programs and

smaller
applets!

--

Regards:

Richard Urban

aka Crusty (-: Old B@stard :-)


"Ted Zieglar" wrote in message
...
The six hundred registry entries that you eliminated didn't make your
bootup
any faster. It took your system a fraction of a second to load those
registry entries into RAM; that's how much time you saved by

eliminating
them.

Besides, how do you know that those 600 registry entries were "bad" --
because WinDoctor told you so? The great majority of 'errors' that
WinDoctor
finds (missing icons, broken shortcuts, etc.) are laughable. Does it

seem
a
little suspicious to you that a clean install of Windows with nothing

more
than Windows updates added yielded 600 "bad" registry keys?

Windows XP is continuously tuning itself in the background,

establishing
the
pre-fetch, performing partial defrags, reordering the driver load (the
'secret' behind the bootvis routine), etc.

Have you ever seen an article in a computer magazine that tested

registry
cleaners with 'before and after' benchmarks that measured boot times

and
overall system performance?
--
Ted Zieglar


"Richard Urban" wrote in message
...
Consider this then!

I performed a clean install a month ago, just to test this theory.

Clean install. Added SP1 and all available Window Updates. Installed

all
my
programs (had a lot of time on my hands). Then I installed SP2.

I ran WinDoctor and eliminated about 600 bad entries in the registry.

I
rebooted and emptied the recycle bin.

I then ran NTREGopt.exe ( from ERUNT). This optimized (compacted) the
registry. I obtained a 19% gain in the reduction of the registry size
(about
8.5 meg smaller).

When I rebooted I was able to "CLOCK" - via a stop watch, a 23 second
reduction in bootup time to a usable desktop!

--

Regards:

Richard Urban

aka Crusty (-: Old B@stard :-)


"Ted Zieglar" wrote in message
...
Do you really think so?

Consider this:

How many megabytes of memory does, say, one thousand redundant

registry
keys
occupy? How much RAM do you have installed? How fast is your

hardware?

You accomplish nothing measurable (let alone perceptable) by
eliminating
those thousand registry keys, but you risk crippling your system

with a
so-called registry cleaner toy.

If you're interested in speeding up your system in a way that you

can
actually notice, and you're already diligent about maintaining your
computer, buy more RAM, a faster hard disk or a faster video card.
--
Ted Zieglar


"Prabhat" wrote in message
...
Hi Ted,

Doeas Registry Gets Load while the Windows Load? If yes Then that
should
affect the System Performance if the Size grows due to Unwanted

Values
in
it.

Thanks
Prabhat

"Ted Zieglar" wrote in message
...
Wesley is correct, of course.

The proper way to deal with the registry is to leave it alone,
unless
you
need to fix a specific problem that can only be repaired by

editing
the
registry.

Redundant registry entries cause no harm to your computer and do

not
affect
its performance.
--
Ted Zieglar


"Wesley Vogel" wrote in message
...
No. XP does not do this.

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.
Wes

In ,


hunted and pecked:
Do I understand correctly, that XP removes redundant

registry
entries
left behind when programmes are un-installed.

"Prabhat" wrote in message
...
Hi All,

I have XP + SP1. I use Microsoft OLD RegClean.

Is this the Best Registry Cleaner Available? Or If not

which
one
I
should Go
For my XP System?

Thanks
Prabhat

















  #37  
Old October 19th 04, 08:25 PM
XS11E
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default Which Registry Cleaner?

"Testy" wrote in
:

The main problem with all registry cleaners is that if you don't
know what you are doing you can trash your system, And if you do
know what you are doing you don't need them.


I'll disagree with the last, a registry cleaner is usually much faster
than manually going through the registry.

  #38  
Old October 19th 04, 08:58 PM
Ted Zieglar
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default Which Registry Cleaner?

I may be just playing with words here, but I don't think a registry
'cleaner' is called for even in that case. There are several third party
registry 'editors' that are more convenient than regedit. Basically, they
make it easier to navigate through the registry. For those who work in the
registry often, and who know what they're looking at, a well designed
registry editor can make working in the registry a lot less tedious. And
let's face it, working in the registry is dull. I'd much rather be playing
with Windows Media Player. :-)
--
Ted Zieglar


"XS11E" wrote in message
.. .
"Testy" wrote in
:

The main problem with all registry cleaners is that if you don't
know what you are doing you can trash your system, And if you do
know what you are doing you don't need them.


I'll disagree with the last, a registry cleaner is usually much faster
than manually going through the registry.



  #39  
Old October 19th 04, 09:51 PM
Unknown
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default Which Registry Cleaner?

I really wish I could so that I could convince you. However, I have deleted
them already. But as an example, my system came with many advertised ISP's.
Notably, AOL. If I wanted to subscribe to AOL I would click on its ICON and
install and register it. (Subscribe). I cleaned out everything pertainging to
AOL and, there was tons of it. If you had similar experience, do a regedit
search for AOL and see what comes up.
I run a registry cleaner about once a month and usually find at least 30
useless items each time. They accumulate.
"Ted Zieglar" wrote in message
...
How about posting some of those "many, many useless registry entries" along
with your explanation of why they are useless. Or is this just your opinion?

In fact, I have tried a few of the more popular "registry cleaners"
(WinDoctor, RegCleaner, etc.) and none of them came up with anything that
would affect my system's performance or bootup. No surprise then that my
before and after bootups were identical. But I did have a good laugh about
the "errors" these toys discovered.

I won't belabor the point: There is no substitute for learning how to use a
PC correctly and to best advantage. In the long run, this will cover your
a** better than digital eye candy.
--
Ted Zieglar


"Unknown" wrote in message
om...
Just installing SP2 will create many, many useless registry entries. I

suggest
you use a stop watch and time your functions then do a registry clean and

time
them again. You won't be convinced until you do so.
@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
Holly cow, Richard: What kind of software do you buy that causes 600
"errors" to appear in your registry? Maybe you ought to spend a little

more
and get the good stuff. {;- {;-

Ted Zieglar

"Richard Urban" wrote in message
...
Told you I loaded ALL of my software, about 100 major programs and

smaller
applets!

--

Regards:

Richard Urban

aka Crusty (-: Old B@stard :-)


"Ted Zieglar" wrote in message
...
The six hundred registry entries that you eliminated didn't make your
bootup
any faster. It took your system a fraction of a second to load those
registry entries into RAM; that's how much time you saved by

eliminating
them.

Besides, how do you know that those 600 registry entries were "bad" --
because WinDoctor told you so? The great majority of 'errors' that
WinDoctor
finds (missing icons, broken shortcuts, etc.) are laughable. Does it

seem
a
little suspicious to you that a clean install of Windows with nothing

more
than Windows updates added yielded 600 "bad" registry keys?

Windows XP is continuously tuning itself in the background,

establishing
the
pre-fetch, performing partial defrags, reordering the driver load (the
'secret' behind the bootvis routine), etc.

Have you ever seen an article in a computer magazine that tested

registry
cleaners with 'before and after' benchmarks that measured boot times

and
overall system performance?
--
Ted Zieglar


"Richard Urban" wrote in message
...
Consider this then!

I performed a clean install a month ago, just to test this theory.

Clean install. Added SP1 and all available Window Updates. Installed

all
my
programs (had a lot of time on my hands). Then I installed SP2.

I ran WinDoctor and eliminated about 600 bad entries in the registry.

I
rebooted and emptied the recycle bin.

I then ran NTREGopt.exe ( from ERUNT). This optimized (compacted) the
registry. I obtained a 19% gain in the reduction of the registry size
(about
8.5 meg smaller).

When I rebooted I was able to "CLOCK" - via a stop watch, a 23 second
reduction in bootup time to a usable desktop!

--

Regards:

Richard Urban

aka Crusty (-: Old B@stard :-)


"Ted Zieglar" wrote in message
...
Do you really think so?

Consider this:

How many megabytes of memory does, say, one thousand redundant

registry
keys
occupy? How much RAM do you have installed? How fast is your

hardware?

You accomplish nothing measurable (let alone perceptable) by
eliminating
those thousand registry keys, but you risk crippling your system

with a
so-called registry cleaner toy.

If you're interested in speeding up your system in a way that you

can
actually notice, and you're already diligent about maintaining your
computer, buy more RAM, a faster hard disk or a faster video card.
--
Ted Zieglar


"Prabhat" wrote in message
...
Hi Ted,

Doeas Registry Gets Load while the Windows Load? If yes Then that
should
affect the System Performance if the Size grows due to Unwanted

Values
in
it.

Thanks
Prabhat

"Ted Zieglar" wrote in message
...
Wesley is correct, of course.

The proper way to deal with the registry is to leave it alone,
unless
you
need to fix a specific problem that can only be repaired by

editing
the
registry.

Redundant registry entries cause no harm to your computer and do

not
affect
its performance.
--
Ted Zieglar


"Wesley Vogel" wrote in message
...
No. XP does not do this.

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Hope this helps. Let us know.
Wes

In ,


hunted and pecked:
Do I understand correctly, that XP removes redundant

registry
entries
left behind when programmes are un-installed.

"Prabhat" wrote in message
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Hi All,

I have XP + SP1. I use Microsoft OLD RegClean.

Is this the Best Registry Cleaner Available? Or If not

which
one
I
should Go
For my XP System?

Thanks
Prabhat


















  #40  
Old October 19th 04, 10:14 PM
Unknown
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Default Which Registry Cleaner?

What you fail to recognize is that a registry cleaner finds items that are not
associated with anything else (a useless key).
Problem is that you don't have a list of what to search for. Hence, you cannot
clean your registry.
"Ted Zieglar" wrote in message
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I may be just playing with words here, but I don't think a registry
'cleaner' is called for even in that case. There are several third party
registry 'editors' that are more convenient than regedit. Basically, they
make it easier to navigate through the registry. For those who work in the
registry often, and who know what they're looking at, a well designed
registry editor can make working in the registry a lot less tedious. And
let's face it, working in the registry is dull. I'd much rather be playing
with Windows Media Player. :-)
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"XS11E" wrote in message
.. .
"Testy" wrote in
:

The main problem with all registry cleaners is that if you don't
know what you are doing you can trash your system, And if you do
know what you are doing you don't need them.


I'll disagree with the last, a registry cleaner is usually much faster
than manually going through the registry.




  #41  
Old October 19th 04, 10:30 PM
Phil McCracken
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Default Which Registry Cleaner?

Richard Urban wrote:
I just performed that benchmark, with a stop watch. I can't argue with the
results!


I think the problem is that you observed that "B" followed "A" and came
to the conclusion that A must have *caused* B. There are other factors
that could have come into play. We know, for instance, that post-SP2
boot time isn't initially optimized until after the third post-SP2 boot.
I agree with Ted in general, in that registry cleaners are highly
overrated, and shouldn't be messed with by anyone who isn't comfortable
with editing the registry without one.
  #42  
Old October 19th 04, 10:33 PM
Phil McCracken
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Unknown wrote:

What you fail to recognize is that a registry cleaner finds items that
are not associated with anything else (a useless key).
Problem is that you don't have a list of what to search for. Hence, you
cannot clean your registry.


What you fail to recognize is that there doesn't seem to be any reliable
objective evidence that "useless" entries cause any problems. If you
believe it does you some good, and it makes you happy, that's fine. But
it's irresponsible to tout registry cleaning if the basis for your
recommendation is without an objective basis in fact.

  #43  
Old October 19th 04, 10:39 PM
Unknown
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Default Which Registry Cleaner?

Ah, but it is with an objective basis in fact. Your problem is simply that
you haven't tested or tried it but merely have a great fear of the registry.
Preserve your ignorance.
"Phil McCracken" wrote in message
...
Unknown wrote:

What you fail to recognize is that a registry cleaner finds items that are
not associated with anything else (a useless key).
Problem is that you don't have a list of what to search for. Hence, you
cannot clean your registry.


What you fail to recognize is that there doesn't seem to be any reliable
objective evidence that "useless" entries cause any problems. If you believe
it does you some good, and it makes you happy, that's fine. But it's
irresponsible to tout registry cleaning if the basis for your recommendation
is without an objective basis in fact.


  #44  
Old October 20th 04, 12:29 AM
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On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 12:25:51 -0700, XS11E wrote:

"Testy" wrote in
:

The main problem with all registry cleaners is that if you don't
know what you are doing you can trash your system, And if you do
know what you are doing you don't need them.


I'll disagree with the last, a registry cleaner is usually much faster
than manually going through the registry.


Try searching Tucows for System utilities, and Registry Cleaners or
Editors. There are at least 3 editors (freeware) and 3 cleaners (free &
share).
I currently use Norton System Works which has a decent file shredder,
registry cleaner AV and internet tools (for $89)
Tools tried are Vilma Rege Explorer (free) and Oberon (share $35), awa
Resplendent Registrar - editor. I favor one that can present a list at the
bottom of all known inferences to a search item (like the old Norton editor
for 98/me). There are many, many more out there. Try them and then decide
which ones best suit your needs.
--
Lester Stiefel
In Romans 1 there are qualities of Unregenerate man listed which describe
him in the last days.
Is your quality found on this list??
  #45  
Old October 20th 04, 01:38 AM
Lillly
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Default Which Registry Cleaner?

Here is my 2 cents worth: I've tried at least 6 or 7 "registry cleaners"
and have deleted quite a lot of uneeded or redundant keys.

Fortunately I've done no harm to my system. However, I have not found that
I've experienced any performance enhancement.

I think the idea of an automated cleaner sounds great ... if it is safe and
effective. But for me, the risk benefit ratio cannot justify using any of
the registry cleaners that I've encountered so far.


 




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