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Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) losespatent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX.
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GreyCloud wrote: On 10/05/2016 08:48 PM, nospam wrote: In article , GreyCloud wrote: Two words: Windows Update. They need to fix that. Computer constantly writing to disk gigabytes of data is *not acceptable*. And Win 10 takes 1-1.5GB of RAM sitting doing nothing... You need at least 2GB to fire up program without having to swap out.... That is 64 bit version. I guess that for 32 bit version you need half of that... who cares. memory is cheap, as is disk space. But not on a new iMac. on any mac or pc, new or old. Not on the 4k models. All sealed up. Wife's got one. You can't even get inside on the 4k model. so what? there's no reason to get inside. To update after the realization that it needs a faster hard drive or just rip out the hard drive and install an SSD? You either select all that should be in the mac or live with its slowness. And memory from Apple has never been cheap, and neither are their hard drives or SSDs. apple's memory prices are competitive with other makers such as dell, lenovo and in particular, hp, who is actually *more* expensive than apple. At least twice as much as the rest. |
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Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX.
In article , Silver Slimer wrote:
The more they accumulate, the slower the computer gets. nonsense. it only takes up disk space. it doesn't affect speed. Theoretically, that's true. not just theoretically, but in reality. http://www.theeldergeek.com/disk_cleanup_utility.htm "To keep a PC running smoothly, regular maintenance is critical. Many users shy away from maintenance tasks, thinking it is a long, drawn out manual affair, but the Disk Cleanup Utility can easily determine which files on a hard drive may no longer be needed and delete those files. In addition to freeing up potentially significant amounts of hard drive space, using Disk Cleanup on a regular basis can significantly improve system performance." don't believe everything you read. |
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Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX.
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wrote: The more they accumulate, the slower the computer gets. nonsense. it only takes up disk space. it doesn't affect speed. It does over time. After 4 years and updates on win7, it does start to slow down. It's the registry that the system has to paw thru serially on boot up. registry issues have nothing to do with stuff that hasn't been deleted. |
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Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX.
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wrote: Why does the Apple Terminal program take 7 seconds to finally show a prompt then? because something is wrong with your system, and instead of trying to diagnose the issue and resolve it, you'd rather bitch and moan. it takes about 1-2 seconds to cold-launch terminal on a 2008 macbook i happen to have, while on 2013 mac (which still is not the latest and greatest), terminal launches instantly. it's too fast to even measure. double-click terminal and there's a prompt. It was right there on my old 2007 iMac. On this new one it seems to take forever. then something is wrong. Also, on boot up, and logging into my account, it seems that all the services are very slow in starting up. I may have to call up Apple on this one, since I have paid support. yes you do. |
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Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX.
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wrote: who cares. memory is cheap, as is disk space. But not on a new iMac. on any mac or pc, new or old. Not on the 4k models. All sealed up. Wife's got one. that doesn't affect price. You can't even get inside on the 4k model. so what? there's no reason to get inside. To update after the realization that it needs a faster hard drive or just rip out the hard drive and install an SSD? most people never bother. You either select all that should be in the mac or live with its slowness. And memory from Apple has never been cheap, and neither are their hard drives or SSDs. apple's memory prices are competitive with other makers such as dell, lenovo and in particular, hp, who is actually *more* expensive than apple. At least twice as much as the rest. nope. |
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Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) losespatent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX.
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nospam wrote: In article , GreyCloud wrote: Regardless of what Mac heads tell you, OS X is slow no matter what kind of processor or amount of memory you throw at it. benchmarks show that to be complete rubbish. Apple is happy to see you spend the money but reward you with nothing at all. I recall getting my parents to pay for a 4GB upgrade on their Mac Mini to bring the total to 8GB. There's a 5400 RPM HD in there but even that kind of old technology would work relatively well with Linux or Windows on it. On the Mac? Disgusting. My parents felt _no change_ from 4GB to 8GB despiet assurances from zealots that the experience would be fantastic. that only means that you weren't memory bound. Maybe things will change once the filesystem is replaced (did it happen yet?) but I doubt it; optimization is something absolutely no one at Apple can even spell much less implement. nonsense. Why does the Apple Terminal program take 7 seconds to finally show a prompt then? because something is wrong with your system, and instead of trying to diagnose the issue and resolve it, you'd rather bitch and moan. it takes about 1-2 seconds to cold-launch terminal on a 2008 macbook i happen to have, while on 2013 mac (which still is not the latest and greatest), terminal launches instantly. it's too fast to even measure. double-click terminal and there's a prompt. |
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Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) losespatent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX.
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Hash: SHA256 On 2016-10-06 1:33 PM, Alan Baker wrote: On 2016-10-06 6:44 AM, Silver Slimer wrote: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 2016-10-05 8:05 PM, GreyCloud wrote: On 10/05/2016 03:08 PM, nospam wrote: In article , Melzzzzz wrote: Two words: Windows Update. They need to fix that. Computer constantly writing to disk gigabytes of data is *not acceptable*. And Win 10 takes 1-1.5GB of RAM sitting doing nothing... You need at least 2GB to fire up program without having to swap out.... That is 64 bit version. I guess that for 32 bit version you need half of that... who cares. memory is cheap, as is disk space. But not on a new iMac. You can't even get inside on the 4k model. You either select all that should be in the mac or live with its slowness. And memory from Apple has never been cheap, and neither are their hard drives or SSDs. Apple and its users have always been proud to tell us that you need to buy a specific brand of RAM for the Mac if you want to maintain stability. It seemed pretty lame at the time that I owned Macs (2003-2005) but I think that it's still the same story today. Meanwhile, the PC actually offers you the opportunity to put whatever RAM you want in there. It's bull****. You heard one guy once tell you that. To be honest, I don't really care if you believe me. However, web forums at the time were very clear in telling you that you had to buy whatever brand Apple uses or else you were exposing yourself to problems. It turned out to be garbage, but it seems that zealots at the time were not as honest as today's edition. - -- Silver Slimer Islam is a disease Gab.AI: @silverslimer -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJX9rePAAoJEIwFfgf/rr+uG5MH/3h8K0e2k8SZ9sTR1RxQoRFK FXgxAEh7QhSbEnHvjYnF9yNFwA8oSJAZc5naVoNUoPjbNBuCdV IoYnJfRoLHfsoP MxqAdNmF3AL4VkD45Um4qaSXAk6+ljBVL2wdDBKd+WFd4QUlqS 9lBTvagEEjyurA bz0Rbg0C9onyrAFbQ70J7UfkXXHQT4NaV4Uonz/Z7ehDcYtQ0duoS9Ke5Wky+J1E UD1WH/UfElU4d/CqO362YpfKSHhO6hAr6hqZHJMEaNv9XNDVJd5OHBb9YwMqTOi3 IRhoT6mPdFIYCqtEIYQBqngm9rUyXkyv9S88JWhbqlb1rcnXq/ucelkD1znrfUw= =pj7z -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- |
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Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX.
In article , Silver Slimer wrote:
Apple and its users have always been proud to tell us that you need to buy a specific brand of RAM for the Mac if you want to maintain stability. It seemed pretty lame at the time that I owned Macs (2003-2005) but I think that it's still the same story today. Meanwhile, the PC actually offers you the opportunity to put whatever RAM you want in there. It's bull****. You heard one guy once tell you that. To be honest, I don't really care if you believe me. However, web forums at the time were very clear in telling you that you had to buy whatever brand Apple uses or else you were exposing yourself to problems. It turned out to be garbage, but it seems that zealots at the time were not as honest as today's edition. web forums are your reference? you're an idiot. |
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Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) losespatent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX.
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Hash: SHA256 On 2016-10-06 3:33 PM, nospam wrote: In article , Silver Slimer wrote: The more they accumulate, the slower the computer gets. nonsense. it only takes up disk space. it doesn't affect speed. Theoretically, that's true. not just theoretically, but in reality. http://www.theeldergeek.com/disk_cleanup_utility.htm "To keep a PC running smoothly, regular maintenance is critical. Many users shy away from maintenance tasks, thinking it is a long, drawn out manual affair, but the Disk Cleanup Utility can easily determine which files on a hard drive may no longer be needed and delete those files. In addition to freeing up potentially significant amounts of hard drive space, using Disk Cleanup on a regular basis can significantly improve system performance." don't believe everything you read. Which is why I'm joyfully disregarding everything you write. - -- Silver Slimer Islam is a disease Gab.AI: @silverslimer -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJX9rqMAAoJEIwFfgf/rr+uocUH/Rerpe2swlQI9LAWbrTKluQg CKxmovB40weirWTTNXUlYt/Hg+dz9hSeUK6Mzf/l/0BBt60N11LdJmYxikAUy3oN +Mv/lbVwPPHdfgnfwDOj2V9mzXzV6FCUs7l2Lb78+rqY802BIHxl1d P/m0z9aC5q HGAlYRaOpC6FvpVV/+xLHTv/NpyXciJST+JmovBFTlcVkz8kv3Jj9WdS2w5p2WXp 0T2Onl3pfJ16rrQbxcjrJYxafpeZNei1V14TJy1DX4ZkM79O7x i6I8nKT+2mSCz6 YzXlpVr1ku6G6VCqqCbB0sitZt/+xA657tcptt7aV/FIUxal31PofcFr5I38xpA= =xbZv -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- |
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Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) losespatent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX.
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Alan Baker wrote: On 2016-10-06 6:44 AM, Silver Slimer wrote: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 2016-10-05 8:05 PM, GreyCloud wrote: On 10/05/2016 03:08 PM, nospam wrote: In article , Melzzzzz wrote: Two words: Windows Update. They need to fix that. Computer constantly writing to disk gigabytes of data is *not acceptable*. And Win 10 takes 1-1.5GB of RAM sitting doing nothing... You need at least 2GB to fire up program without having to swap out.... That is 64 bit version. I guess that for 32 bit version you need half of that... who cares. memory is cheap, as is disk space. But not on a new iMac. You can't even get inside on the 4k model. You either select all that should be in the mac or live with its slowness. And memory from Apple has never been cheap, and neither are their hard drives or SSDs. Apple and its users have always been proud to tell us that you need to buy a specific brand of RAM for the Mac if you want to maintain stability. It seemed pretty lame at the time that I owned Macs (2003-2005) but I think that it's still the same story today. Meanwhile, the PC actually offers you the opportunity to put whatever RAM you want in there. It's bull****. You heard one guy once tell you that. |
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nospam wrote:
In article , GreyCloud wrote: The more they accumulate, the slower the computer gets. nonsense. it only takes up disk space. it doesn't affect speed. It does over time. After 4 years and updates on win7, it does start to slow down. It's the registry that the system has to paw thru serially on boot up. registry issues have nothing to do with stuff that hasn't been deleted. Idiot. Stuff which hasn't been deleted has Registry entries. In some cases *hundreds* of entries for a single application The registry is loaded into memory at boot time, and it stays there. And it *grows* with every installed application Do you idiots *ever* get something technical right? |
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Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) losespatent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX.
On 2016-10-06 1:43 PM, Silver Slimer wrote:
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 2016-10-06 1:33 PM, Alan Baker wrote: On 2016-10-06 6:44 AM, Silver Slimer wrote: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 2016-10-05 8:05 PM, GreyCloud wrote: On 10/05/2016 03:08 PM, nospam wrote: In article , Melzzzzz wrote: Two words: Windows Update. They need to fix that. Computer constantly writing to disk gigabytes of data is *not acceptable*. And Win 10 takes 1-1.5GB of RAM sitting doing nothing... You need at least 2GB to fire up program without having to swap out.... That is 64 bit version. I guess that for 32 bit version you need half of that... who cares. memory is cheap, as is disk space. But not on a new iMac. You can't even get inside on the 4k model. You either select all that should be in the mac or live with its slowness. And memory from Apple has never been cheap, and neither are their hard drives or SSDs. Apple and its users have always been proud to tell us that you need to buy a specific brand of RAM for the Mac if you want to maintain stability. It seemed pretty lame at the time that I owned Macs (2003-2005) but I think that it's still the same story today. Meanwhile, the PC actually offers you the opportunity to put whatever RAM you want in there. It's bull****. You heard one guy once tell you that. To be honest, I don't really care if you believe me. However, web forums at the time were very clear in telling you that you had to buy whatever brand Apple uses or else you were exposing yourself to problems. It turned out to be garbage, but it seems that zealots at the time were not as honest as today's edition. Well then if the answer was found in web forums, you should have no trouble providing a couple of examples... |
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Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) losespatent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX.
On 2016-10-06 2:49 PM, Peter Köhlmann wrote:
nospam wrote: In article , GreyCloud wrote: The more they accumulate, the slower the computer gets. nonsense. it only takes up disk space. it doesn't affect speed. It does over time. After 4 years and updates on win7, it does start to slow down. It's the registry that the system has to paw thru serially on boot up. registry issues have nothing to do with stuff that hasn't been deleted. Idiot. Stuff which hasn't been deleted has Registry entries. In some cases *hundreds* of entries for a single application Which has nothing to do with deleting FILES. Uninstalling applications, perhaps... ....but that wasn't what was under discussion: 'The remaining problem is that after updating, Windows keeps the UPDATE FILES on the hard disk for God knows what reason.' The registry is loaded into memory at boot time, and it stays there. And it *grows* with every installed application Do you idiots *ever* get something technical right? |
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Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) losespatent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX.
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GreyCloud wrote: On 10/05/2016 08:48 PM, nospam wrote: In article , Silver Slimer wrote: Like I said before, it has already been resolved with forced updates. The remaining problem is that after updating, Windows keeps the update files on the hard disk for God knows what reason. that's to be able to undo the update in case there are any problems, which is a very good idea and since disk space is cheap, who cares, and it eventually auto-deletes anyway (i think it's 10 days). The more they accumulate, the slower the computer gets. nonsense. it only takes up disk space. it doesn't affect speed. It does over time. After 4 years and updates on win7, it does start to slow down. It's the registry that the system has to paw thru serially on boot up. Delete a program here and there and install a few new programs, and the registry starts to get bigger and bigger. The uninstall procedure varies from vendor to vendor, so not all registry items are deleted. This makes the registry get fatter over the years. |
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Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX.
Alan Baker wrote:
On 2016-10-06 2:49 PM, Peter Köhlmann wrote: nospam wrote: In article , GreyCloud wrote: The more they accumulate, the slower the computer gets. nonsense. it only takes up disk space. it doesn't affect speed. It does over time. After 4 years and updates on win7, it does start to slow down. It's the registry that the system has to paw thru serially on boot up. registry issues have nothing to do with stuff that hasn't been deleted. Idiot. Stuff which hasn't been deleted has Registry entries. In some cases *hundreds* of entries for a single application Which has nothing to do with deleting FILES. Uninstalling applications, perhaps... ...but that wasn't what was under discussion: 'The remaining problem is that after updating, Windows keeps the UPDATE FILES on the hard disk for God knows what reason.' And the registry contains links to those files |
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