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[OT] Strange spamming tactic
Steve wrote:
Recently I started getting spam every day addressed to with no full stop (period) I'm familiar w/ that problem. I believe that it arises because some real person (possibly w/ the same name) began exposing that address 'all over the place' or some call it 'free 4 all' which results in the address getting on spam lists. And, as far as spam goes, it is better to eliminate the concept of 'a spammer'. There isn't a spammer; there is a 'process' which results in spam. Here is another one for you. While gmail 'ignores' the dots, you can have every letter of your firstlast separated by dots or any other interval or none and gmail sends all of them to you; while other various entities which use an email as a method of id, DO respect the dots wherever they may be. SOOOO.... some place where your gmail address may be an id for you; some other person can come along and register at that place without a dot and be registered 'right along side' of you... that is they can be registered there without a dot and you can be registered there WITH a dot and then when that entity tries to send email to that other dot-less person, you are going to get their mail. I have seen that *SEVERAL* times. It is a mess. -- Mike Easter |
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[OT] Strange spamming tactic
On Wed, 20 Nov 2019 17:52:13 -0800, Mike Easter wrote:
Steve wrote: Recently I started getting spam every day addressed to with no full stop (period) I'm familiar w/ that problem. I believe that it arises because some real person (possibly w/ the same name) began exposing that address 'all over the place' or some call it 'free 4 all' which results in the address getting on spam lists. And, as far as spam goes, it is better to eliminate the concept of 'a spammer'. There isn't a spammer; there is a 'process' which results in spam. Here is another one for you. While gmail 'ignores' the dots, you can have every letter of your firstlast separated by dots or any other interval or none and gmail sends all of them to you; while other various entities which use an email as a method of id, DO respect the dots wherever they may be. SOOOO.... some place where your gmail address may be an id for you; some other person can come along and register at that place without a dot and be registered 'right along side' of you... that is they can be registered there without a dot and you can be registered there WITH a dot and then when that entity tries to send email to that other dot-less person, you are going to get their mail. I have seen that *SEVERAL* times. It is a mess. I'm sure I'm missing something. If both of those addresses are gmail addresses, and since dots don't matter, then how did the second person get a gmail address? Google should have told the second person that their requested address isn't available. |
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[OT] Strange spamming tactic
Char Jackson wrote:
I'm sure I'm missing something. If both of those addresses are gmail addresses, and since dots don't matter, then how did the second person get a gmail address? Google should have told the second person that their requested address isn't available. That's exactly what google does, and I tend to believe they'll have always done it that way. victims who receive email at variations of their gmail address are getting it because they have a similar name to an idiot, and the idiot gives out the victim's address (with or without extra dots) without realising. |
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[OT] Strange spamming tactic
Char Jackson wrote:
I'm sure I'm missing something. If both of those addresses are gmail addresses, and since dots don't matter, then how did the second person get a gmail address? Google should have told the second person that their requested address isn't available. They /didn't/ get a firstlast gmail address like the OP. They got 'confused' (mixed up, mistaken) when they registered their account at the entity which respects dots in the email. Perhaps they have some OTHER gmail address (not firstlast) and/or perhaps they have some non-gmail address which IS firstlast. In my theory. I've seen 'too many' instances which are clearly legitimate emails to the wrong address, and have telephone corresponded with a couple. Naturally they don't want to tell me very much about an account which is not mine, except that there is one. The best strategy I have been able to use to get such an entity to /do something/ about the 'bad' account info is to treat it as if their email bounced; that they have bad contact info for the account. My gripe is that it is a security issue; like having a wrong contact cellphone number. The problem NEEDS to be fixed, but that *I* can't fix a problem w/ someone else's account. -- Mike Easter |
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[OT] Strange spamming tactic
On Thu, 21 Nov 2019 09:47:41 +0000, Andy Burns wrote:
Char Jackson wrote: I'm sure I'm missing something. If both of those addresses are gmail addresses, and since dots don't matter, then how did the second person get a gmail address? Google should have told the second person that their requested address isn't available. That's exactly what google does, and I tend to believe they'll have always done it that way. victims who receive email at variations of their gmail address are getting it because they have a similar name to an idiot, and the idiot gives out the victim's address (with or without extra dots) without realising. OK, got it, thanks. That makes more sense. |
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