browser string

this my browser id after enabling spartan

1. You!! Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64) AppleWebKit/537.36
(KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/39.0.2171.71 Safari/537.36 Edge/12.0

Dino wrote:

1. You!! Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64) AppleWebKit/537.36
(KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/39.0.2171.71 Safari/537.36 Edge/12.0

Were you saying the "1. " (1, dot, space space) was part of the User
Agent string?

http://www.davevoyles.com/microsofts...ome-ua-string/

What they say is Spartan's UA string matches yours except for your
prepended "1. You!! " string. What tool or web site did you use to
announce to you the web browser's UA string?

On 2015-03-26 1:34 PM, Dino wrote:
this my browser id after enabling spartan

1. You!! Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64) AppleWebKit/537.36
(KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/39.0.2171.71 Safari/537.36 Edge/12.0

Alright, I'm confused. This seems to indicate that Spartan will use the
same engine as what Safari and Chrome use.

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VanguardLH wrote:
Dino wrote:

1. You!! Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64) AppleWebKit/537.36
(KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/39.0.2171.71 Safari/537.36 Edge/12.0

Were you saying the "1. " (1, dot, space space) was part of the User
Agent string?

http://www.davevoyles.com/microsofts...ome-ua-string/

What they say is Spartan's UA string matches yours except for your
prepended "1. You!! " string. What tool or web site did you use to
announce to you the web browser's UA string?
1.You is meaning that it was reading my browser and is not part of the
actual string.

Slimer wrote:
On 2015-03-26 1:34 PM, Dino wrote:
this my browser id after enabling spartan

1. You!! Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64) AppleWebKit/537.36
(KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/39.0.2171.71 Safari/537.36 Edge/12.0

Alright, I'm confused. This seems to indicate that Spartan will use the
same engine as what Safari and Chrome use.

not sure.the string for 9926 was showing that it was using mozilla.Looks
like they found out that open source is good.

Dino wrote:
Slimer wrote:
On 2015-03-26 1:34 PM, Dino wrote:
this my browser id after enabling spartan

1. You!! Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64) AppleWebKit/537.36
(KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/39.0.2171.71 Safari/537.36 Edge/12.0

Alright, I'm confused. This seems to indicate that Spartan will use
the same engine as what Safari and Chrome use.

not sure.the string for 9926 was showing that it was using mozilla.Looks
like they found out that open source is good.

The Microsoft browser team is dead-set against "browser sniffing"
via the UserAgent string.

By making bogus user agent declarations (ones similar to other
vendor browsers), they hope to encourage web sites to
sniff capabilities ("do you support HTML5" "do you have Flash")
instead of crafting a zillion custom web pages, one for Lynx,
one for Opera, one for IE6, one for IE7.

It's better to issue a bogus user agent, then force the web site
to check what language or feature the browser actually supports.

If the browser doesn't have Java, maybe JavaScript will work,
and entirely different files are needed.

In other words, you're not supposed to draw any conclusions about
the actual browser engine (open source or otherwise). By using
a "fake" UserAgent string, it forces web sites to use a different
philosophy. As a result, web sites will need a hybrid approach.
Unique browsers (IE6 declaration) will use traditional browser
sniffing (useragent). Newer browsers will all report confusingly
similar UserAgent strings, forcing a capabilities check. "Do you
understand HTML5 ?"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spartan_(browser)

"Spartan" uses a new "Edge" layout engine forked from Trident
that is "designed for interoperability with the modern web".

"Spartan" does not support legacy technologies such as ActiveX
and Browser Helper Objects, and will instead use an extension system

Forked from Trident, means forked from closed source code.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trident_(layout_engine)

"Trident is superseded by a fork of itself,
the Spartan browser rendering engine (EdgeHTML)."

Obviously, this is an attempt to make the browser more
secure. This is bound to annoy Todd, who hates it when
Microsoft makes the claim "our most secure OS yet". But
this change, no ActiveX or BHO, means an attack surface
is disappearing, and web hackers are going to need to
do their homework. People at your bank will have
to switch to Javascript for everything :-) Lots of
development work for web developers.

HTH,
Paul

On 2015-03-26 6:10 PM, Dino wrote:
Slimer wrote:
On 2015-03-26 1:34 PM, Dino wrote:
this my browser id after enabling spartan

1. You!! Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64) AppleWebKit/537.36
(KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/39.0.2171.71 Safari/537.36 Edge/12.0

Alright, I'm confused. This seems to indicate that Spartan will use
the same engine as what Safari and Chrome use.

not sure.the string for 9926 was showing that it was using mozilla.Looks
like they found out that open source is good.

Actually, the Mozilla part is meaningless. That part is included in the
user string of just about every version of IE since the beginning of
time. See he

http://www.zytrax.com/tech/web/msie-history.html

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OpenMedia, GreenPeace Supporter & SPCA Paw Partner
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