USB 3.1 ???

Anyone get to play with USB 3.1 yet?

http://www.pcworld.com/article/28588...14.html#slide8

T wrote:
Anyone get to play with USB 3.1 yet?

http://www.pcworld.com/article/28588...14.html#slide8


If available, it's a "hood ornament".

It's just a disruption for the sake of
disrupting things. Think what a mess "Type C"
will make of the I/O plate on desktop computers.

And is it enabling some "new capabilities" ?

All it will mean, is some SSD drive runs 50MB/sec
faster when placed in a USB 3.1 enclosure or docking station.

Give it two or three years, and maybe we can have
a meaningful conversation about it.

For a guy like you, it'll be yet another
connector that "isn't compatible with USB2" :-)

*******

Read the customer reviews here.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813132509

"ASM1142 USB 3.1"

"Pros: 1st commercially available motherboard with USB 3.1.

Cons: The provided ASMedia ASM1142 USB 3.1 controller drivers
(1.16.23.0 from 12/24/2014) are problematic. There is a
working fix available, search Google for "Plugable ASMedia 3.1"
and a link to their blog post should be the first hit.

The solution is to roll back to a slightly older ASMedia driver.
"

HTH,
Paul

On 03/14/2015 11:31 PM, Paul wrote:
If available, it's a "hood ornament".

It's just a disruption for the sake of
disrupting things. Think what a mess "Type C"
will make of the I/O plate on desktop computers.

And is it enabling some "new capabilities" ?

All it will mean, is some SSD drive runs 50MB/sec
faster when placed in a USB 3.1 enclosure or docking station.

Give it two or three years, and maybe we can have
a meaningful conversation about it.

For a guy like you, it'll be yet another
connector that "isn't compatible with USB2" :-)

Hi Paul,

I like the way it looks on paper, but paper and
reality are two separate things. I like the 100 watts.

Apple's new mac book is using it, apparently for video too:

http://www.infoworld.com/article/289...h-macbook.html

-T

T wrote:
On 03/14/2015 11:31 PM, Paul wrote:
If available, it's a "hood ornament".

It's just a disruption for the sake of
disrupting things. Think what a mess "Type C"
will make of the I/O plate on desktop computers.

And is it enabling some "new capabilities" ?

All it will mean, is some SSD drive runs 50MB/sec
faster when placed in a USB 3.1 enclosure or docking station.

Give it two or three years, and maybe we can have
a meaningful conversation about it.

For a guy like you, it'll be yet another
connector that "isn't compatible with USB2" :-)

Hi Paul,

I like the way it looks on paper, but paper and
reality are two separate things. I like the 100 watts.

Apple's new mac book is using it, apparently for video too:

http://www.infoworld.com/article/289...h-macbook.html


-T

We already had an example of "video" by Apple the other day.

A poster tells me his Apple product, has an "HDMI" output.
Turns out, I got the pinout, and there is no HDMI. There
is USB. And apparently the OS is capable of extracting
some movie or video content you're playing, and send it
down the USB cable, to a USB-to-HDMI dongle you've purchased.
It gives them complete control over the content - no worries
about movie pirating, since the information source
is curated.

Yeah, now tell me what kind of "video" capability this
Mac will have. It won't be the "VGA connector on the side
of my laptop" kind of video. It won't be a mirror copy of the
screen. It'll be whatever little video snippet they choose
to give you. Nicely curated and playing attention to any DRM
and "Do Not Copy" bits etc. No need for HDCP, when there is
nothing to steal. A black screen if you try.

So it will be a video capability, in name only.

Paul

On Sat, 14 Mar 2015 17:24:32 -0700, T wrote:

Anyone get to play with USB 3.1 yet?

http://www.pcworld.com/article/28588...14.html#slide8

Once this is released, there will be lots of very similar looking but
different plugs and sockets in circulation, some reversible and some
not, which means some physically compatible and some not, which means
even more ways of getting it wrong. That's standards for you.

Rod.

In message , Roderick
Stewart writes
Once this is released, there will be lots of very similar looking but
different plugs and sockets in circulation, some reversible and some
not, which means some physically compatible and some not, which means
even more ways of getting it wrong. That's standards for you.

But if it really can carry 20amps (100watts @ 5v), it will be the one
that glows in the dark and smells of burning.
--
Bill

Bill wrote:

if it really can carry 20amps (100watts @ 5v)

3A @ 5V, up to 5A @ 20V by negotiation ...

On 03/15/2015 12:00 PM, Andy Burns wrote:
Bill wrote:

if it really can carry 20amps (100watts @ 5v)

3A @ 5V, up to 5A @ 20V by negotiation ...



Hi Andy,

Thank you for that clarification!

You mean I don't get to arc weld with USB 3.1? :-)

-T

On 03/15/2015 12:00 PM, Andy Burns wrote:
Bill wrote:

if it really can carry 20amps (100watts @ 5v)

3A @ 5V, up to 5A @ 20V by negotiation ...



Thinking about this. With all the push to cheapen things
down, I can see this going really wrong.

On Mon, 16 Mar 2015 12:55:50 -0700, T wrote:

On 03/15/2015 12:00 PM, Andy Burns wrote:
Bill wrote:

if it really can carry 20amps (100watts @ 5v)

3A @ 5V, up to 5A @ 20V by negotiation ...



Thinking about this. With all the push to cheapen things
down, I can see this going really wrong.

Like what?

--
Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

On 03/16/2015 01:39 PM, Gene E. Bloch wrote:
On Mon, 16 Mar 2015 12:55:50 -0700, T wrote:

On 03/15/2015 12:00 PM, Andy Burns wrote:
Bill wrote:

if it really can carry 20amps (100watts @ 5v)

3A @ 5V, up to 5A @ 20V by negotiation ...



Thinking about this. With all the push to cheapen things
down, I can see this going really wrong.

Like what?


Improper negotiation because someone cheeped out on
parts and excess voltage being applied to something.

One of those thing were the spec works, but did you
spend the money and follow the spec?

On 03/14/2015 07:24 PM, T wrote:
Anyone get to play with USB 3.1 yet?

http://www.pcworld.com/article/28588...14.html#slide8







The dumbest thing about USB was simply plugging it in.

The reversibility seems like a bigger breakthrough than the speed.

On 2015-03-17 7:55 PM, philo wrote:
On 03/14/2015 07:24 PM, T wrote:
Anyone get to play with USB 3.1 yet?

http://www.pcworld.com/article/28588...14.html#slide8

The dumbest thing about USB was simply plugging it in.

The reversibility seems like a bigger breakthrough than the speed.

Agreed. It's a shame that it breaks compatibility though.

--
Slimer
OpenMedia, GreenPeace Supporter & SPCA Paw Partner
Encrypt.

On 03/18/2015 09:22 AM, Slimer wrote:
On 2015-03-17 7:55 PM, philo wrote:
On 03/14/2015 07:24 PM, T wrote:
Anyone get to play with USB 3.1 yet?

http://www.pcworld.com/article/28588...14.html#slide8


The dumbest thing about USB was simply plugging it in.

The reversibility seems like a bigger breakthrough than the speed.

Agreed. It's a shame that it breaks compatibility though.




Since it's new, I will probably not be using it for a few years.

On 03/18/2015 11:08 AM, philo wrote:
On 03/18/2015 09:22 AM, Slimer wrote:
On 2015-03-17 7:55 PM, philo wrote:
On 03/14/2015 07:24 PM, T wrote:
Anyone get to play with USB 3.1 yet?

http://www.pcworld.com/article/28588...14.html#slide8



The dumbest thing about USB was simply plugging it in.

The reversibility seems like a bigger breakthrough than the speed.

Agreed. It's a shame that it breaks compatibility though.




Since it's new, I will probably not be using it for a few years.


Seems to me like is will be "adapter hell" for a few years too