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1394 not recoginizing video camera
I am grasping at straws here, but could this knowledgebase article relate to
the non-recoginition of 1394-connected DV cams? What I'm asking is if the speed being reset to S100 could impact device recognition on a 1394 port? Or does that only have effect after connection with the device is established? KB885222 Performance of 1394 devices may decrease after you install Windows XP Service Pack 2 SYMPTOMS After you update your computer to Microsoft Windows XP Service Pack 2 (SP2), the performance of your 1394a or 1394b FireWire devices may be greatly decreased. A digital camera that uses S400 speed is an example of such a device. This problem occurs if you connect a 1394a or 1394b FireWire device to a 1394b port. This problem occurs because Windows XP SP2 changes 1394b ports to S100 speed when you upgrade. "Les" wrote: OK, so now I am even further confused! Today I brought my DV camera and Firewire cable to the office. I plugged it into a co-worker's Dell laptop 1394 port. Lo and behold, the camera is recognized. I then checked the O/S (XP SP2), and the 1394 driver (as loaded by XP SP2). Why do you think the operation of 1394 driver is so system dependant? "Les" wrote: LONE5RANGER, I am hoping you might have some suggestions for me regarding my inability to connect my Sony DVR-PC1 camera via 1394 adapter under WinXP. It is just never recognized as being connected. I have researched all the forums and boards, and tried everything that others have had success with, to no avail. I am running WinXP SP2. I have tried 2 different known good DV cables, 2 newly purchased 1394 adapter cards - one VIA based, the other TI based - I have backed the 1394 drivers down to XP SP1 versions (ensuring that they are not automatically updated to SP2 drivers upon boot). The VIA-based adapter was a USB/1394 combo, on which the USB ports worked fine. In Device Manager, the adpaters show up as being installed and working properly. I am at my wit's end. My DV camera worked fine on my now obsolete and cannibalized W2K system with a dedicated DV capture card (Canopus). I followed your link above to the RAM Electronics site, but the links to which you referred are now invalid. Besides, the 1394 info discussed on that site seemed to relate to Win98. Any suggestions on how to proceed would be much appreciated. "LONE5RANGER" wrote: Hello Khickenbottom Disregard the reply that I sent you. this message is only for those “whose Sony camcorders was not recognized by Windows” upon installation. However, I did see some information on the Microsoft website describing your problem check out this link. http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;281286 Have a nice day Lone5Ranger "khickenbottom" wrote: I have a DVD burner and my digital video camera hooked up to 1394 jacks. Now the computer won't recognize the video camera. I have Service Pack 2 loaded, which I thought had some fixes for that problem but it's not working. I've tried deleting and reinstalling drivers but no luck. Anyone run into this problem or know of a solution. |
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1394 not recoginizing video camera
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If you are referring to the possibility of MS XP Firewall blocking 1394 ports, in my case I have disabled XP Firewall. I use ZoneAlarm, which I also disabled for troubleshooting this 1394 connection problem. BTW, I have logged a support call with MS. I'll share the outcome of that case. "Treeman" wrote: Les Wrote: Treem, Was there supposed to be text in your lats post? "Treeman" wrote: - -- Treeman - Yes, Look at the thread above this one. Treeman -- Treeman |
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the files needed. I tried to download them off of Ram Electronics. They
were no longer available. Could you email them to me Lone5Ranger? "LONE5RANGER" wrote: Sony DCR-TRV820 will not connect I have a DCR-TRV Camcorder which I had been using to capture Video for editing on a Gateway Essentials 500, Window 98SE before upgrading my editing Software up to Videowave 5. The reason I put this in is very important. Because before purchasing a Dell Dimension 2350 desktop with Windows XP, the Camcorder and Computer worked Fine! Using the 1394 firewire and Sony Camcorder connected to the Dell Desktop I was unable to connect to the Camcorder. Here is a “Glitch” to be explained later. After almost a hundred hours trying to solve the problem I’m finally there. Sony, Dell, Microsoft support leaves “a lot to be desired” and I’m still waiting on a Call back from Dell! After reading all of the forums I’m not going to be very long explaining this because it seems as if you all are pretty much on track. 1. When I first connected the Camcorder to the Computer a pop up Window appeared and it gave me 2 options. 1. Movie Maker(Windows can always run this program). And Option #2(take no action). I chose option #2 (take no action). and that Window has not appeared again until just a few minutes ago. 2. My problem was Texas Instruments OHCI Compliant IEEE 1394 Host Controller Drivers. In my Dimension Desktop “Device Manger” I only had 2: 1394BUS.SYS OHCI1394.SYS 3. Go to this Website for further information required for DV Camcorder and Texas Instruments OHCI Compliant IEEE 1394 Host Controller Drivers for your Windows XP to recognize. http://www.ramelectronics.net/html/i...4_support.html 3. According to ramelectronics 5 drivers are required: The files you need a 1394BUS.SYS DVCAM.INF DVCAM.SYS OHCI1394.SYS Usb001.exe (I did not find this driver: maybe it was combined with another Driver file) Sometimes manufacturers rename “files” and “Drivers” Finally this is what I did: 1. Download drivers from ramelectronics website on to floppy. Remove Floppy 2. With computer on Uninstall “Texas Instruments OHCI Compliant IEEE 1394 Host Controller” in the “Device Manger” Window 3. Turn Computer “Off” and physically remove card 4. Turn computer on and “Verified” the “Texas Instruments OHCI Compliant IEEE 1394 Host Controller” was uninstalled in the “DEVICE MANAGER” and shut off computer 5. Physically reinstall IEEE 1394 PCI CARD in a different PCI SLOT 6. Turned on COMPUTER and went to Device Manager. Windows had already installed the Texas Instruments OHCI Compliant IEEE 1394 Host Controller Drivers. Note: “everything that was done has been done as “Administrator” by the time I turned the COMPUTER ON and LOGGED ON as ADMINSTRATOR the 1394 Card and DRIVERS had already Been “Installed” In the “Device Manager” 7. I checked Texas Instruments OHCI Compliant IEEE 1394 Host Controller Drivers installed: Here are the Driver Names of the Files Installed C:\WINDOWS\System32\DRIVERS\1394bus.sys C:\WINDOWS\System32\DRIVERS\arp.1394.sys C:\WINDOWS\System32\DRIVERS\enum1394.sys C:\WINDOWS\System32\DRIVERS\nicsys1394.sys C:\WINDOWS\System32\DRIVERS\ohci1394.sys 8. I then connected the Camera and then the same thing happened as before “My Software nor Windows saw the Sony Camcorder. 9. Unplugged the firewire from the computer 10. I then went back to the “Device Manager” checked Texas Instruments OHCI Compliant IEEE 1394 Host Controller and “Choosing” UPDATE…BROWSE….Drive A(the floppy disk). 11. This is tricky. You will see one “file or folder” in the Windows Dialog Box and another in File Open Box, Maneuver through trying to get those files to download…..it probably won’t be easy but stay here on steps 10 and 11 until you see those files download. I did. And when it all stopped about 5 seconds. 12. I dragged back over to my Sony DCR-TRV820 and plugged the firewire in and turned the CAMERA ON: 13. The speakers went….. DUNG….BING…..BONG 14. I returned to the computer and There was two messages a “Window” whos message said: Record Video(using Windows Movie Maker) Take no action………….I say Do not choose this option 15. Let Windows Movie Maker download a little clip and close it out 16. Now I have my camera and computer working Never! Never! Give up Sir Winston Churchill And thanks to all of you on these forums you have helped me a lot if I can be of any assistance? Hit me back here “Glitch” LET movie maker run your first Clip 1. Record Video(using Windows Movie Maker) 2. Take no action………….Do not choose this option "khickenbottom" wrote: I have a DVD burner and my digital video camera hooked up to 1394 jacks. Now the computer won't recognize the video camera. I have Service Pack 2 loaded, which I thought had some fixes for that problem but it's not working. I've tried deleting and reinstalling drivers but no luck. Anyone run into this problem or know of a solution. |
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O.K. Here's the deal; if you have Sp2 installed you have to block SP2 from re-loading it's drivers by renaming a folder called SP2.cab to SP2cab.old Then do this; Go to C:\WINDOWS\Driver Cache\i386 & C:\dllcache in SP1 and copy out the following files SBP2port.sys is in C:\Windows\System32\Drivers & \system32\dllcache 1394bus.sys is in C:\Windows\System32\Drivers arp1394.sys is in C:\Windows\System32\Drivers nic1394.sys is in c:\Windows\System32\Drivers ohci1394.sys is in C:\windows\System32\drivers enum1394.sys is in C:\windows\system32\drivers Copy out the following files to a new folder you can call "Firewirefix," (without quotes) Stop XP Sp2 from re-installing it's drivers again by: Renaming the XP2.cab file to (e.g. to XP2old.cab) Replace the SP2 versions of these files with the SP1 versions in C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers & C:\WINDOWS\system32\dllcache in safe mode. Go to device manager for your ohci firewire card and update SP2 drivers to the SP1 drivers by pointing to Firewirefix.(warning message normal) Reboot. Treeman
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Hi All, especially LONE5RANGER and Pam: Pam, I've got the link to the files you wanted (the ones LONE5RANGER said. I don't know if you've already gotten them from him. it is a matter of misspelling on the ramelectronics site (capitalization). so klick the link he http://www.ramelectronics.net/download/IEEE1394/ I downloaded the files just know, all of them. And Also THAAAAAAAAANKKKKSS ALOT to the lone ranger (LONE5RANGER) for the info. really awesome. but i haven't tried it all yet! "Pam" wrote: the files needed. I tried to download them off of Ram Electronics. They were no longer available. Could you email them to me Lone5Ranger? "LONE5RANGER" wrote: Sony DCR-TRV820 will not connect I have a DCR-TRV Camcorder which I had been using to capture Video for editing on a Gateway Essentials 500, Window 98SE before upgrading my editing Software up to Videowave 5. The reason I put this in is very important. Because before purchasing a Dell Dimension 2350 desktop with Windows XP, the Camcorder and Computer worked Fine! Using the 1394 firewire and Sony Camcorder connected to the Dell Desktop I was unable to connect to the Camcorder. Here is a “Glitch” to be explained later. After almost a hundred hours trying to solve the problem I’m finally there. Sony, Dell, Microsoft support leaves “a lot to be desired” and I’m still waiting on a Call back from Dell! After reading all of the forums I’m not going to be very long explaining this because it seems as if you all are pretty much on track. 1. When I first connected the Camcorder to the Computer a pop up Window appeared and it gave me 2 options. 1. Movie Maker(Windows can always run this program). And Option #2(take no action). I chose option #2 (take no action). and that Window has not appeared again until just a few minutes ago. 2. My problem was Texas Instruments OHCI Compliant IEEE 1394 Host Controller Drivers. In my Dimension Desktop “Device Manger” I only had 2: 1394BUS.SYS OHCI1394.SYS 3. Go to this Website for further information required for DV Camcorder and Texas Instruments OHCI Compliant IEEE 1394 Host Controller Drivers for your Windows XP to recognize. http://www.ramelectronics.net/html/i...4_support.html 3. According to ramelectronics 5 drivers are required: The files you need a 1394BUS.SYS DVCAM.INF DVCAM.SYS OHCI1394.SYS Usb001.exe (I did not find this driver: maybe it was combined with another Driver file) Sometimes manufacturers rename “files” and “Drivers” Finally this is what I did: 1. Download drivers from ramelectronics website on to floppy. Remove Floppy 2. With computer on Uninstall “Texas Instruments OHCI Compliant IEEE 1394 Host Controller” in the “Device Manger” Window 3. Turn Computer “Off” and physically remove card 4. Turn computer on and “Verified” the “Texas Instruments OHCI Compliant IEEE 1394 Host Controller” was uninstalled in the “DEVICE MANAGER” and shut off computer 5. Physically reinstall IEEE 1394 PCI CARD in a different PCI SLOT 6. Turned on COMPUTER and went to Device Manager. Windows had already installed the Texas Instruments OHCI Compliant IEEE 1394 Host Controller Drivers. Note: “everything that was done has been done as “Administrator” by the time I turned the COMPUTER ON and LOGGED ON as ADMINSTRATOR the 1394 Card and DRIVERS had already Been “Installed” In the “Device Manager” 7. I checked Texas Instruments OHCI Compliant IEEE 1394 Host Controller Drivers installed: Here are the Driver Names of the Files Installed C:\WINDOWS\System32\DRIVERS\1394bus.sys C:\WINDOWS\System32\DRIVERS\arp.1394.sys C:\WINDOWS\System32\DRIVERS\enum1394.sys C:\WINDOWS\System32\DRIVERS\nicsys1394.sys C:\WINDOWS\System32\DRIVERS\ohci1394.sys 8. I then connected the Camera and then the same thing happened as before “My Software nor Windows saw the Sony Camcorder. 9. Unplugged the firewire from the computer 10. I then went back to the “Device Manager” checked Texas Instruments OHCI Compliant IEEE 1394 Host Controller and “Choosing” UPDATE…BROWSE….Drive A(the floppy disk). 11. This is tricky. You will see one “file or folder” in the Windows Dialog Box and another in File Open Box, Maneuver through trying to get those files to download…..it probably won’t be easy but stay here on steps 10 and 11 until you see those files download. I did. And when it all stopped about 5 seconds. 12. I dragged back over to my Sony DCR-TRV820 and plugged the firewire in and turned the CAMERA ON: 13. The speakers went….. DUNG….BING…..BONG 14. I returned to the computer and There was two messages a “Window” whos message said: Record Video(using Windows Movie Maker) Take no action………….I say Do not choose this option 15. Let Windows Movie Maker download a little clip and close it out 16. Now I have my camera and computer working Never! Never! Give up Sir Winston Churchill And thanks to all of you on these forums you have helped me a lot if I can be of any assistance? Hit me back here “Glitch” LET movie maker run your first Clip 1. Record Video(using Windows Movie Maker) 2. Take no action………….Do not choose this option "khickenbottom" wrote: I have a DVD burner and my digital video camera hooked up to 1394 jacks. Now the computer won't recognize the video camera. I have Service Pack 2 loaded, which I thought had some fixes for that problem but it's not working. I've tried deleting and reinstalling drivers but no luck. Anyone run into this problem or know of a solution. |
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Hi All, especially LONE5RANGER and Pam: Pam, I've got the link to the files you wanted (the ones LONE5RANGER said. I don't know if you've already gotten them from him. it is a matter of misspelling on the ramelectronics site (capitalization). so klick the link he http://www.ramelectronics.net/download/IEEE1394/ I downloaded the files just know, all of them. And Also THAAAAAAAAANKKKKSS ALOT to the lone ranger (LONE5RANGER) for the info. really awesome. but i haven't tried it all yet! "Pam" wrote: the files needed. I tried to download them off of Ram Electronics. They were no longer available. Could you email them to me Lone5Ranger? "LONE5RANGER" wrote: Sony DCR-TRV820 will not connect I have a DCR-TRV Camcorder which I had been using to capture Video for editing on a Gateway Essentials 500, Window 98SE before upgrading my editing Software up to Videowave 5. The reason I put this in is very important. Because before purchasing a Dell Dimension 2350 desktop with Windows XP, the Camcorder and Computer worked Fine! Using the 1394 firewire and Sony Camcorder connected to the Dell Desktop I was unable to connect to the Camcorder. Here is a “Glitch” to be explained later. After almost a hundred hours trying to solve the problem I’m finally there. Sony, Dell, Microsoft support leaves “a lot to be desired” and I’m still waiting on a Call back from Dell! After reading all of the forums I’m not going to be very long explaining this because it seems as if you all are pretty much on track. 1. When I first connected the Camcorder to the Computer a pop up Window appeared and it gave me 2 options. 1. Movie Maker(Windows can always run this program). And Option #2(take no action). I chose option #2 (take no action). and that Window has not appeared again until just a few minutes ago. 2. My problem was Texas Instruments OHCI Compliant IEEE 1394 Host Controller Drivers. In my Dimension Desktop “Device Manger” I only had 2: 1394BUS.SYS OHCI1394.SYS 3. Go to this Website for further information required for DV Camcorder and Texas Instruments OHCI Compliant IEEE 1394 Host Controller Drivers for your Windows XP to recognize. http://www.ramelectronics.net/html/i...4_support.html 3. According to ramelectronics 5 drivers are required: The files you need a 1394BUS.SYS DVCAM.INF DVCAM.SYS OHCI1394.SYS Usb001.exe (I did not find this driver: maybe it was combined with another Driver file) Sometimes manufacturers rename “files” and “Drivers” Finally this is what I did: 1. Download drivers from ramelectronics website on to floppy. Remove Floppy 2. With computer on Uninstall “Texas Instruments OHCI Compliant IEEE 1394 Host Controller” in the “Device Manger” Window 3. Turn Computer “Off” and physically remove card 4. Turn computer on and “Verified” the “Texas Instruments OHCI Compliant IEEE 1394 Host Controller” was uninstalled in the “DEVICE MANAGER” and shut off computer 5. Physically reinstall IEEE 1394 PCI CARD in a different PCI SLOT 6. Turned on COMPUTER and went to Device Manager. Windows had already installed the Texas Instruments OHCI Compliant IEEE 1394 Host Controller Drivers. Note: “everything that was done has been done as “Administrator” by the time I turned the COMPUTER ON and LOGGED ON as ADMINSTRATOR the 1394 Card and DRIVERS had already Been “Installed” In the “Device Manager” 7. I checked Texas Instruments OHCI Compliant IEEE 1394 Host Controller Drivers installed: Here are the Driver Names of the Files Installed C:\WINDOWS\System32\DRIVERS\1394bus.sys C:\WINDOWS\System32\DRIVERS\arp.1394.sys C:\WINDOWS\System32\DRIVERS\enum1394.sys C:\WINDOWS\System32\DRIVERS\nicsys1394.sys C:\WINDOWS\System32\DRIVERS\ohci1394.sys 8. I then connected the Camera and then the same thing happened as before “My Software nor Windows saw the Sony Camcorder. 9. Unplugged the firewire from the computer 10. I then went back to the “Device Manager” checked Texas Instruments OHCI Compliant IEEE 1394 Host Controller and “Choosing” UPDATE…BROWSE….Drive A(the floppy disk). 11. This is tricky. You will see one “file or folder” in the Windows Dialog Box and another in File Open Box, Maneuver through trying to get those files to download…..it probably won’t be easy but stay here on steps 10 and 11 until you see those files download. I did. And when it all stopped about 5 seconds. 12. I dragged back over to my Sony DCR-TRV820 and plugged the firewire in and turned the CAMERA ON: 13. The speakers went….. DUNG….BING…..BONG 14. I returned to the computer and There was two messages a “Window” whos message said: Record Video(using Windows Movie Maker) Take no action………….I say Do not choose this option 15. Let Windows Movie Maker download a little clip and close it out 16. Now I have my camera and computer working Never! Never! Give up Sir Winston Churchill And thanks to all of you on these forums you have helped me a lot if I can be of any assistance? Hit me back here “Glitch” LET movie maker run your first Clip 1. Record Video(using Windows Movie Maker) 2. Take no action………….Do not choose this option "khickenbottom" wrote: I have a DVD burner and my digital video camera hooked up to 1394 jacks. Now the computer won't recognize the video camera. I have Service Pack 2 loaded, which I thought had some fixes for that problem but it's not working. I've tried deleting and reinstalling drivers but no luck. Anyone run into this problem or know of a solution. |
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Sorry about the renaming thing with the SP2.cab folder. This is the actual scenario; Go to C:\WINDOWS\Driver Cache\i386 & C:\dllcache in SP1 and copy out the following files 1394bus.sys is in C:\Windows\System32\Drivers arp1394.sys is in C:\Windows\System32\Drivers nic1394.sys is in c:\Windows\System32\Drivers ohci1394.sys is in C:\windows\System32\drivers enum1394.sys is in C:\windows\system32\drivers MSDV.sys is in windows\system32\Drivers & \system32\dllcache (Microsoft camera & vcr driver) Stream.sys is in windows\system32\Drivers & \system32\dllcache (WDM Codec) Copy out the following files to a new folder you can call "Firewirefix," (without quotes) Stop XP Sp2 from re-installing it's drivers again by: Renaming the SP2.cab file to (e.g. to SP2old.cab) Replace the SP2 versions of these files with the SP1 versions in C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers & C:\WINDOWS\system32\dllcache in safe mode. Go to device manager for your ohci firewire card and update SP2 drivers to the SP1 drivers by pointing to Firewirefix.(warning message normal) Reboot. Treeman
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(sorry, i'm a n00b)
i seem to have the identical problem (new dcr-pc1 dv cam, xp with sp2, can't get cam to register via 1394, going insane). are you saying that the solution is to overwrite certain sp2 files/drivers with the respective sp1 files? |
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Yes Rob, AKA, the post above yours from me. And I haven't a clue as to what's going on with the server! Parsing text, duplicate postings all around. What a mess! Best, Treeman -- Treeman ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Treeman's Profile: http://www.msusenet.com/member.php?userid=1260 View this thread: http://www.msusenet.com/t-1870189750 |
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sweet, thanks.
i'll give this a try later tonight, and post an update... which will probably be another question about something i missed, can't find, etc. ha. but it's nice to know that i wasn't alone with this problem, and that a solution exists. again, thanks for the info/help. |
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There is now an SP2 fix from MS worth trying, see my page here
http://www.myvideoproblems.co.uk/Pro...ngUnderSP2.htm -- Graham Hughes MVP Digital Media www.myvideoproblems.co.uk www.dvds2treasure.com www.simplydv.com "Treeman" wrote in message ... Yes Rob, AKA, the post above yours from me. And I haven't a clue as to what's going on with the server! Parsing text, duplicate postings all around. What a mess! Best, Treeman -- Treeman ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Treeman's Profile: http://www.msusenet.com/member.php?userid=1260 View this thread: http://www.msusenet.com/t-1870189750 |
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any idea where i can find these sp1 files: enum1394.sys is in C:\windows\system32\drivers MSDV.sys is in windows\system32\Drivers & \system32\dllcache i found the other 4, but don't see these listed for download anywhere... |
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