IE & Active X

Is it expected behavior that every-time IE seems to need to reinstall an
active x control even though it shows "enabled" under it's settings?

I have a D-Link IP camera requires an Active X control for full
functionality. All XP/Vista and Win7 pcs I have that the ActiveX control
has been installed on all now "just work" and I can view the image.

Win 10 requires me to choose "Install" every time. Is there some way to
just tell IE to keep using it?

Edge shows the camera no problem but it doesn't show the controls for
saving images, video etc. etc.

"pjp" wrote
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| Is it expected behavior that every-time IE seems to need to reinstall an
| active x control even though it shows "enabled" under it's settings?
|
| I have a D-Link IP camera requires an Active X control for full
| functionality. All XP/Vista and Win7 pcs I have that the ActiveX control
| has been installed on all now "just work" and I can view the image.
|
| Win 10 requires me to choose "Install" every time. Is there some way to
| just tell IE to keep using it?
|
| Edge shows the camera no problem but it doesn't show the controls for
| saving images, video etc. etc.

Are you sure it's an ActiveX control? An OCX
or maybe a DLL? It only needs to be registered.
That shouldn't need to be done twice. But it's
not directly conected to IE. (As opposed to
add-ons, which would be things like extensions.)
An Ax control is installed system-wide. It won't
work in Edge, however. IE11 disables IE standard
behavior by default. In Edge it's removed altogether.

Also, if it's a 32-bit Ax then it needs to run in
IE32.

Finally, it may be that you'll need to adjust IE
ActiveX settings in the Security tab.

I don't know how/why you're using IE with a
control. Maybe you're connecting remotely?
It may be possible to use another browser or,
if it's a local usage, to use an HTA by renaming
an HTML file to .hta, which simply removes all
security restrictions.

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"pjp" wrote
|
| Is it expected behavior that every-time IE seems to need to reinstall an
| active x control even though it shows "enabled" under it's settings?
|
| I have a D-Link IP camera requires an Active X control for full
| functionality. All XP/Vista and Win7 pcs I have that the ActiveX control
| has been installed on all now "just work" and I can view the image.
|
| Win 10 requires me to choose "Install" every time. Is there some way to
| just tell IE to keep using it?
|
| Edge shows the camera no problem but it doesn't show the controls for
| saving images, video etc. etc.

Are you sure it's an ActiveX control? An OCX
or maybe a DLL? It only needs to be registered.
That shouldn't need to be done twice. But it's
not directly conected to IE. (As opposed to
add-ons, which would be things like extensions.)
An Ax control is installed system-wide. It won't
work in Edge, however. IE11 disables IE standard
behavior by default. In Edge it's removed altogether.

Also, if it's a 32-bit Ax then it needs to run in
IE32.

Finally, it may be that you'll need to adjust IE
ActiveX settings in the Security tab.

I don't know how/why you're using IE with a
control. Maybe you're connecting remotely?
It may be possible to use another browser or,
if it's a local usage, to use an HTA by renaming
an HTML file to .hta, which simply removes all
security restrictions.



It definitely is an ActiveX control. It remains Enabled under Settings
even though it requires being reinstalled to use. The reason for wanting
to use it is that it gives me control of the camera, e.g. video stream
resolution and as well ability to record the camera to hard disk.
Wihtout the control using Edge I can view the camera but have no control
over it.

I just want to know if IE is supposed to keep it enabled or is it some
new thing under Win10 to discourage you using IE and instead use Edge.

It's a bsic Dlink IP security camera.

In article ,
says...

Is it expected behavior that every-time IE seems to need to reinstall an
active x control even though it shows "enabled" under it's settings?

I have a D-Link IP camera requires an Active X control for full
functionality. All XP/Vista and Win7 pcs I have that the ActiveX control
has been installed on all now "just work" and I can view the image.

Win 10 requires me to choose "Install" every time. Is there some way to
just tell IE to keep using it?

Edge shows the camera no problem but it doesn't show the controls for
saving images, video etc. etc.

Hi

Maybe this is a hint :
http://futurezone.at/produkte/window...ionen-webcams-
unbrauchbar/216.563.387
But it's in german.

Best regards
reinhard

| "pjp" wrote

| It definitely is an ActiveX control. It remains Enabled under Settings
| even though it requires being reinstalled to use.

I haven't managed to install IE11 at all, so I'm only
advising based on my knowledge of IE. Maybe someone
else will have an idea, but in case it might help....

It seems to be a BHO. You're not providing accurate
info. Where is "Settings"? Isn't it under Manage Add-ons?
What do you mean it requires being reinstalled? What
does the message actually say? If the DLL is showing up
as enabled in Add-ons then it is installed.

I don't mean to split hairs, but these things matter.
ActiveX controls run in a webpage. BHOs (add-ons)
are DLLs that load with IE and can provide functionality,
load extensions, etc.

In Edge, both BHOs and ActiveX controls are broken.
It's probably using script via "HTML5" and that's why the
functionality is limited. So, no, MS is not trying to force
Edge by breaking IE11. But IE11 is semi-broken. Each
IE version has added new restrictions and security
features that can confuse things.
If it were me I'd go to D-Link and see if they have
another option that can be run in Firefox. But if they
do it might be Java, which could be a bigger headache
than IE, as well as being a new security risk.

"Reinhard Skarbal" wrote

| Maybe this is a hint :
| http://futurezone.at/produkte/window...ionen-webcams-
| unbrauchbar/216.563.387
| But it's in german.

You're talking about the update that broke
webcams? That's a different issue. He's not
talking about a webcam that doesn't work.
He's talking about a security camera that he
want's to access through IE.

Mayayana wrote:
"Reinhard Skarbal" wrote

| Maybe this is a hint :
| http://futurezone.at/produkte/window...ionen-webcams-
| unbrauchbar/216.563.387
| But it's in german.

You're talking about the update that broke
webcams? That's a different issue. He's not
talking about a webcam that doesn't work.
He's talking about a security camera that he
want's to access through IE.



http://arstechnica.com/information-t...-most-webcams/

"The Anniversary Update changes some aspects of
how Windows handles cameras, and the issue
appears to affect both USB webcams
and network-connected IP devices."

Although I haven't read any descriptions of
ip cameras that were affected.

And maybe it didn't affect Firewire cameras yet...
because nobody tested it :-) I don't see a reason
why that developer at Microsoft, wouldn't make a list
of all the class drivers supporting cameras, and
ruin all of them.

For my webcam, the webcam software continues to malfunction,
whether the frameserve registry setting is true or false.
In one state, the software crashes almost immediately.
In the other state, the software starts up and the display
doesn't have a preview image coming from the camera.
(The camera rectangle on the screen remains black.)
If you click the "take a picture" button, then it crashes.

If you disable Frameserve and use the DShow interface directly
(without manufacturer software), then it works. I can record
from that camera with VLC. But then I cannot control any
custom settings on the camera. (That's what the manufacturer
software is for, it has several radio buttons for stuff.)

And I don't have any plans with my "free" OS, to
invest another $100 in a new webcam that they will only
break in Windows 11. I already need to buy new video
cards to keep them happy (my HD6450 is at the end of support).

The only thing I can't figure out, is why they didn't
make all my hard drives incompatible. They weren't
trying hard enough... Shurely there would have been
a way to make me buy all new hard drives.

Paul

"Paul" wrote:

| And I don't have any plans with my "free" OS, to
| invest another $100 in a new webcam that they will only
| break in Windows 11. I already need to buy new video
| cards to keep them happy (my HD6450 is at the end of support).
|
| The only thing I can't figure out, is why they didn't
| make all my hard drives incompatible. They weren't
| trying hard enough... Shurely there would have been
| a way to make me buy all new hard drives.
|

Lucky for you that you're just playing with it, huh?

Mayayana wrote:
"Paul" wrote:

| And I don't have any plans with my "free" OS, to
| invest another $100 in a new webcam that they will only
| break in Windows 11. I already need to buy new video
| cards to keep them happy (my HD6450 is at the end of support).
|
| The only thing I can't figure out, is why they didn't
| make all my hard drives incompatible. They weren't
| trying hard enough... Shurely there would have been
| a way to make me buy all new hard drives.
|

Lucky for you that you're just playing with it, huh?

Naturally, I have plenty of OSes and plenty of options.

I'm not impressed with this from a Rolling Release
perspective. Imagine if instead of my Webcam,
it was my copy of Notepad that wouldn't open.
Or, the network stack was ruined. And, like the
"repair" for this webcam issue, the projected
fix date is weeks or months away. I haven't seen
any quick fix pushed out. Maybe they're "testing"
the "quick fix" ? Naw. Why test it... If you
didn't test the original code, why test the
fix ?

Paul