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  #1  
Old February 4th 17, 09:54 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Reinhard Skarbal
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Posts: 28
Default No Password Prompt at boot-time


Hi All

My Laptop Acer Aspire 1830 was delivered with Windows-7.
It was up dated to Windows-10.

But now there is no password prompt after booting.
Bios gaves me only the option to change the boot-order.
There is nothing like windows-recovery or repair-install.

I have only the old Windows-7-Recovery-DVD's.
But I would like to repair my Windows-10.

Any suggestions ?
BTW : I'm only a PC-User.
I did never a Windows-Recovery ore something else.

With thanks in advance
Reinhard
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  #2  
Old February 5th 17, 05:16 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Micky
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Posts: 1,528
Default No Password Prompt at boot-time

In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Sat, 4 Feb 2017 22:54:10 +0100, Reinhard
Skarbal wrote:


Hi All

My Laptop Acer Aspire 1830 was delivered with Windows-7.
It was up dated to Windows-10.

But now there is no password prompt after booting.
Bios gaves me only the option to change the boot-order.
There is nothing like windows-recovery or repair-install.

I have only the old Windows-7-Recovery-DVD's.
But I would like to repair my Windows-10.

Any suggestions ?


The old list of startup options is available if you press F8 at the
right time during boot-up. I press it over and over so I don't know
when the right time is.

I think maybe win10 makes a little noise when it receives the keystroke,
which XP and earlier didn't do, but I could be wrong.

If it's not F8, it's F10, but I'm pretty sure F10 gave me some other
wield startup option that I was afraid to touch. The othe one, that is
probably F8, gave me the list of command line, command line with
networking, .... boot with debugging, ... last successful boot, but F10
had no choices, only one place to enter anything, and the screen was
set for the oldest possible computer system, big tall letters

The BIOS startup page lists how to get into the BIOS, how to reorder
startup, and how to adjust starting remotely, but it doesn't get into
how to start windows because windows is an add-on to the empty computer.

So I think it strange that windows doesn't give one instructions on how
to get to this page. It probably goes there automatically if you crash
in a certain way, but I, in my last episode where I needed it, had
crashed. And iiuc you hadn't either. I wonder if Win10 for Dummies
says how to do this.

BTW : I'm only a PC-User.
I did never a Windows-Recovery ore something else.

With thanks in advance
Reinhard


  #3  
Old February 5th 17, 09:56 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
GlowingBlueMist[_6_]
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Default No Password Prompt at boot-time

On 2/4/2017 3:54 PM, Reinhard Skarbal wrote:

Hi All

My Laptop Acer Aspire 1830 was delivered with Windows-7.
It was up dated to Windows-10.

But now there is no password prompt after booting.
Bios gaves me only the option to change the boot-order.
There is nothing like windows-recovery or repair-install.

I have only the old Windows-7-Recovery-DVD's.
But I would like to repair my Windows-10.

Any suggestions ?
BTW : I'm only a PC-User.
I did never a Windows-Recovery ore something else.

With thanks in advance
Reinhard

Not sure what you are asking for.

1. Are you wanting to have the PC ask for a password before Windows 10
is even booted?

2. Do you want Windows 10, after it is booted, to ask for a password
before it allows someone to use the machine?
  #4  
Old February 5th 17, 09:57 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Paul[_32_]
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Posts: 11,873
Default No Password Prompt at boot-time

Reinhard Skarbal wrote:
Hi All

My Laptop Acer Aspire 1830 was delivered with Windows-7.
It was up dated to Windows-10.

But now there is no password prompt after booting.
Bios gaves me only the option to change the boot-order.
There is nothing like windows-recovery or repair-install.

I have only the old Windows-7-Recovery-DVD's.
But I would like to repair my Windows-10.

Any suggestions ?
BTW : I'm only a PC-User.
I did never a Windows-Recovery ore something else.

With thanks in advance
Reinhard


Does this mean you are being logged in as "Reinhard"
on each boot ?

If you wanted to set that up, you could use the right-click
Run box from the Start menu, and use

netplwiz

That panel allows nominating one account for auto-login at
startup. Check the setting there.

And if you cannot find the Control Panel in the menu
some day, type this to find it

control

As in the Control Panel, there is a User Accounts
thing for managing user accounts. But "netplwiz" gives
access to the auto-login option. The netplwiz is not
available on all versions of Windows. On WinXP,
it might be "control userpasswords2" or so.

*******

Repairing Windows 10 is a bit difficult, because the OS
must be running when you start the repair. You use the
Win10 DVD to do it. On the Win10 DVD, you should find a
Setup.exe. When you run that, the Windows 10 on the DVD
can do an installation. If you do the installation from
the running OS, it can do Repair. When you Repair Install,
you get to keep your programs and data files.

If you *boot* from the DVD, that allows Clean Install,
and then you have to install all your programs again.
So in this case, you don't want to boot from the DVD,
just execute the contents off the DVD while the
existing OS installation is running.

On Windows 10, you can download the DVD, without entering
a license key to get it. If the web browser you use for
the download, is on a Vista/W7/W8/W10 machine, you will be
given a copy of MediaCreationTool.exe . And that program
carries out the actual DVD download. If you are on some
other OS, you will be given a direct URL to download the
DVD. The MediaCreationTool is the recommended method, because
the downloads don't get corrupted. Direct download of the
ISO9660 file, doesn't always work properly.

https://www.microsoft.com/en-ca/soft...load/windows10

What a page like that should be serving up now, is 14393
Anniversary Edition. About 3.5GB for x64 version. About 2.5GB
for x86 (32-bit) version. The DVD will contain Win10 Home
and Win10 Professional. If your OS is frozen at 10240 (no
more security patches) or 10586 (still gets security patches),
the 14393 DVD will bring the OS up to 14393 for you.

If you want to do a Repair Install in Win10, you don't even
need to burn the DVD. You can right-click the ISO9660 file
when the download is finished, and select "Mount" from the
menu. The ISO file will be mounted as a virtual CD drive.
Go to File Explorer, open the new drive that appears in
the Windows, and there should be a Setup.exe on there.

The files will be copied from the virtual CD drive,
onto the hard drive. After that is done, the machine will
reboot and start the actual Repair Install.

On subsequent reboots, all the info necessary is now
sitting in C: , so the virtual CD is no longer needed
at that point, and you should not have to restore the
mount to finish the multiple reboot cycles.

You *do* want to burn the DVD, for emergency usage,
such as doing a Clean Install when the OS is completely
dead. So keep at least one DVD on hand for that.

The DVD has an expiry date. The winload.exe on the DVD
is signed with a certificate. The certificate expires
after a number of months. At least one of the Preview
versions, the DVD no longer boots. So unlike other
OSes, where the media "lasts forever", you have not
done your last download of Windows 10 media. I use
re-writable DVDs for this, so it doesn't cost me anything
additional, to keep a working physical DVD for clean
install purposes.

Using the virtual CD mounting trick, should also make
the Repair Install go slightly faster. Because the DVD
image must be unpacked, the decompression step is what
makes the file copying slow.

You can do two things when you get the media:

1) Burn the DVD for emergencies, right away. Keep
it in a safe place. You can boot to Command Prompt,
using the DVD, and execute commands to fix things
on the C: partition. That's one reason to keep a DVD.
The DVD can be downloaded on a second computer, if the
first computer no longer works properly.

2) Use the virtual CD mounting method, to mount
the ISO9660 file - then you can do the
Repair Install if this is what you actually want.

A Repair Install does not remove malware. If you have
a severe malware problem, it will still be there after
the Repair Install. A Clean Install (which formats C: ),
would be required to have a better chance of cleaning
up any problems of that sort.

The security requirements for setups at work, need to be
a lot better than for home users. For example, you can
now get computers, that not only do they have TPM for
Trusted Boot, but they also have a feature for BIOS
file signing ("Intel Boot Guard"), that prevents non-valid
BIOS files from being installed. My machine doesn't have
that, and it's a relatively new feature.

http://www.pcworld.com/article/28839...-firmware.html

HTH,
Paul

  #5  
Old February 5th 17, 12:44 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Arnie Goetchius
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Posts: 58
Default No Password Prompt at boot-time

Paul wrote:
Reinhard Skarbal wrote:
Hi All

My Laptop Acer Aspire 1830 was delivered with Windows-7.
It was up dated to Windows-10.

But now there is no password prompt after booting.
Bios gaves me only the option to change the boot-order.
There is nothing like windows-recovery or repair-install.

I have only the old Windows-7-Recovery-DVD's.
But I would like to repair my Windows-10.

Any suggestions ?
BTW : I'm only a PC-User.
I did never a Windows-Recovery ore something else.

With thanks in advance
Reinhard


Does this mean you are being logged in as "Reinhard"
on each boot ?

If you wanted to set that up, you could use the right-click
Run box from the Start menu, and use

netplwiz

That panel allows nominating one account for auto-login at
startup. Check the setting there.

And if you cannot find the Control Panel in the menu
some day, type this to find it

control

As in the Control Panel, there is a User Accounts
thing for managing user accounts. But "netplwiz" gives
access to the auto-login option. The netplwiz is not
available on all versions of Windows. On WinXP,
it might be "control userpasswords2" or so.

*******

Repairing Windows 10 is a bit difficult, because the OS
must be running when you start the repair. You use the
Win10 DVD to do it. On the Win10 DVD, you should find a
Setup.exe. When you run that, the Windows 10 on the DVD
can do an installation. If you do the installation from
the running OS, it can do Repair. When you Repair Install,
you get to keep your programs and data files.

If you *boot* from the DVD, that allows Clean Install,
and then you have to install all your programs again.
So in this case, you don't want to boot from the DVD,
just execute the contents off the DVD while the
existing OS installation is running.

On Windows 10, you can download the DVD, without entering
a license key to get it. If the web browser you use for
the download, is on a Vista/W7/W8/W10 machine, you will be
given a copy of MediaCreationTool.exe . And that program
carries out the actual DVD download. If you are on some
other OS, you will be given a direct URL to download the
DVD. The MediaCreationTool is the recommended method, because
the downloads don't get corrupted. Direct download of the
ISO9660 file, doesn't always work properly.

https://www.microsoft.com/en-ca/soft...load/windows10

What a page like that should be serving up now, is 14393
Anniversary Edition. About 3.5GB for x64 version. About 2.5GB
for x86 (32-bit) version. The DVD will contain Win10 Home
and Win10 Professional. If your OS is frozen at 10240 (no
more security patches) or 10586 (still gets security patches),
the 14393 DVD will bring the OS up to 14393 for you.

If you want to do a Repair Install in Win10, you don't even
need to burn the DVD. You can right-click the ISO9660 file
when the download is finished, and select "Mount" from the
menu. The ISO file will be mounted as a virtual CD drive.
Go to File Explorer, open the new drive that appears in
the Windows, and there should be a Setup.exe on there.

The files will be copied from the virtual CD drive,
onto the hard drive. After that is done, the machine will
reboot and start the actual Repair Install.

On subsequent reboots, all the info necessary is now
sitting in C: , so the virtual CD is no longer needed
at that point, and you should not have to restore the
mount to finish the multiple reboot cycles.

You *do* want to burn the DVD, for emergency usage,
such as doing a Clean Install when the OS is completely
dead. So keep at least one DVD on hand for that.

The DVD has an expiry date. The winload.exe on the DVD
is signed with a certificate. The certificate expires
after a number of months. At least one of the Preview
versions, the DVD no longer boots. So unlike other
OSes, where the media "lasts forever", you have not
done your last download of Windows 10 media. I use
re-writable DVDs for this, so it doesn't cost me anything
additional, to keep a working physical DVD for clean
install purposes.

Using the virtual CD mounting trick, should also make
the Repair Install go slightly faster. Because the DVD
image must be unpacked, the decompression step is what
makes the file copying slow.

You can do two things when you get the media:

1) Burn the DVD for emergencies, right away. Keep
it in a safe place. You can boot to Command Prompt,
using the DVD, and execute commands to fix things
on the C: partition. That's one reason to keep a DVD.
The DVD can be downloaded on a second computer, if the
first computer no longer works properly.

2) Use the virtual CD mounting method, to mount
the ISO9660 file - then you can do the
Repair Install if this is what you actually want.

A Repair Install does not remove malware. If you have
a severe malware problem, it will still be there after
the Repair Install. A Clean Install (which formats C: ),
would be required to have a better chance of cleaning
up any problems of that sort.

The security requirements for setups at work, need to be
a lot better than for home users. For example, you can
now get computers, that not only do they have TPM for
Trusted Boot, but they also have a feature for BIOS
file signing ("Intel Boot Guard"), that prevents non-valid
BIOS files from being installed. My machine doesn't have
that, and it's a relatively new feature.

http://www.pcworld.com/article/28839...-firmware.html


HTH,
Paul

Wow, what a great post. Many, many thanks for taking the time to put that all
together and adding to this NG. Great job!
  #6  
Old February 5th 17, 03:44 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
mick
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Posts: 280
Default No Password Prompt at boot-time

On 05/02/2017 09:57:19, Paul wrote:
Reinhard Skarbal wrote:
Hi All

My Laptop Acer Aspire 1830 was delivered with Windows-7.
It was up dated to Windows-10.

But now there is no password prompt after booting.
Bios gaves me only the option to change the boot-order.
There is nothing like windows-recovery or repair-install.

I have only the old Windows-7-Recovery-DVD's.
But I would like to repair my Windows-10.

Any suggestions ?
BTW : I'm only a PC-User.
I did never a Windows-Recovery ore something else.

With thanks in advance
Reinhard


Does this mean you are being logged in as "Reinhard"
on each boot ?

If you wanted to set that up, you could use the right-click
Run box from the Start menu, and use

netplwiz

That panel allows nominating one account for auto-login at
startup. Check the setting there.

And if you cannot find the Control Panel in the menu
some day, type this to find it

control

As in the Control Panel, there is a User Accounts
thing for managing user accounts. But "netplwiz" gives
access to the auto-login option. The netplwiz is not
available on all versions of Windows. On WinXP,
it might be "control userpasswords2" or so.

*******

Repairing Windows 10 is a bit difficult, because the OS
must be running when you start the repair. You use the
Win10 DVD to do it. On the Win10 DVD, you should find a
Setup.exe. When you run that, the Windows 10 on the DVD
can do an installation. If you do the installation from
the running OS, it can do Repair. When you Repair Install,
you get to keep your programs and data files.

If you *boot* from the DVD, that allows Clean Install,
and then you have to install all your programs again.
So in this case, you don't want to boot from the DVD,
just execute the contents off the DVD while the
existing OS installation is running.

On Windows 10, you can download the DVD, without entering
a license key to get it. If the web browser you use for
the download, is on a Vista/W7/W8/W10 machine, you will be
given a copy of MediaCreationTool.exe . And that program
carries out the actual DVD download. If you are on some
other OS, you will be given a direct URL to download the
DVD. The MediaCreationTool is the recommended method, because
the downloads don't get corrupted. Direct download of the
ISO9660 file, doesn't always work properly.

https://www.microsoft.com/en-ca/soft...load/windows10

What a page like that should be serving up now, is 14393
Anniversary Edition. About 3.5GB for x64 version. About 2.5GB
for x86 (32-bit) version. The DVD will contain Win10 Home
and Win10 Professional. If your OS is frozen at 10240 (no
more security patches) or 10586 (still gets security patches),
the 14393 DVD will bring the OS up to 14393 for you.

If you want to do a Repair Install in Win10, you don't even
need to burn the DVD. You can right-click the ISO9660 file
when the download is finished, and select "Mount" from the
menu. The ISO file will be mounted as a virtual CD drive.
Go to File Explorer, open the new drive that appears in
the Windows, and there should be a Setup.exe on there.

The files will be copied from the virtual CD drive,
onto the hard drive. After that is done, the machine will
reboot and start the actual Repair Install.

On subsequent reboots, all the info necessary is now
sitting in C: , so the virtual CD is no longer needed
at that point, and you should not have to restore the
mount to finish the multiple reboot cycles.

You *do* want to burn the DVD, for emergency usage,
such as doing a Clean Install when the OS is completely
dead. So keep at least one DVD on hand for that.

The DVD has an expiry date. The winload.exe on the DVD
is signed with a certificate. The certificate expires
after a number of months. At least one of the Preview
versions, the DVD no longer boots. So unlike other
OSes, where the media "lasts forever", you have not
done your last download of Windows 10 media. I use
re-writable DVDs for this, so it doesn't cost me anything
additional, to keep a working physical DVD for clean
install purposes.

Using the virtual CD mounting trick, should also make
the Repair Install go slightly faster. Because the DVD
image must be unpacked, the decompression step is what
makes the file copying slow.

You can do two things when you get the media:

1) Burn the DVD for emergencies, right away. Keep
it in a safe place. You can boot to Command Prompt,
using the DVD, and execute commands to fix things
on the C: partition. That's one reason to keep a DVD.
The DVD can be downloaded on a second computer, if the
first computer no longer works properly.

2) Use the virtual CD mounting method, to mount
the ISO9660 file - then you can do the
Repair Install if this is what you actually want.

A Repair Install does not remove malware. If you have
a severe malware problem, it will still be there after
the Repair Install. A Clean Install (which formats C: ),
would be required to have a better chance of cleaning
up any problems of that sort.

The security requirements for setups at work, need to be
a lot better than for home users. For example, you can
now get computers, that not only do they have TPM for
Trusted Boot, but they also have a feature for BIOS
file signing ("Intel Boot Guard"), that prevents non-valid
BIOS files from being installed. My machine doesn't have
that, and it's a relatively new feature.

http://www.pcworld.com/article/28839...-firmware.html

HTH,
Paul


Thanks Paul, really useful information to keep for reference.

--
mick
  #7  
Old February 5th 17, 04:04 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Reinhard Skarbal
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Posts: 28
Default No Password Prompt at boot-time

In article ,
says...

On 2/4/2017 3:54 PM, Reinhard Skarbal wrote:

Hi All

My Laptop Acer Aspire 1830 was delivered with Windows-7.
It was up dated to Windows-10.

But now there is no password prompt after booting.
Bios gaves me only the option to change the boot-order.
There is nothing like windows-recovery or repair-install.

I have only the old Windows-7-Recovery-DVD's.
But I would like to repair my Windows-10.

Any suggestions ?
BTW : I'm only a PC-User.
I did never a Windows-Recovery ore something else.

With thanks in advance
Reinhard

Not sure what you are asking for.

1. Are you wanting to have the PC ask for a password before Windows 10
is even booted?

2. Do you want Windows 10, after it is booted, to ask for a password
before it allows someone to use the machine?


Hi GlowingBlueMist

After power up there is only one way to get into windows-10 :

I have to key in my password. Then I'm user Reinhard.
And than I have windows-10 up and running and can click on icons
or run cmd.exe.

BUT there is NOTHING. Only the lock-screen (with a picture) and
4 symbols on the right bottom :

A symbol for the Keyboard-Language (DE for german)
A symbol for WIFI : airplane-mode, on/off, mobile
A symbol for enhanced handling
A symbol for : shut down, restart, power-save

As there is no way to type commands I cannot view the event-log
to see was has happened.

My next step will be. Put out the harddisk and look for the event-log.
(BTW : Can I modify the registry if the HD is in an external disk-box ?
Is there a freeware for that ?)

With thanks in advance
Reinhard
  #8  
Old February 6th 17, 01:20 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
GlowingBlueMist[_6_]
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Posts: 378
Default No Password Prompt at boot-time

On 2/5/2017 10:04 AM, Reinhard Skarbal wrote:
In article ,
says...

On 2/4/2017 3:54 PM, Reinhard Skarbal wrote:

Hi All

My Laptop Acer Aspire 1830 was delivered with Windows-7.
It was up dated to Windows-10.

But now there is no password prompt after booting.
Bios gaves me only the option to change the boot-order.
There is nothing like windows-recovery or repair-install.

I have only the old Windows-7-Recovery-DVD's.
But I would like to repair my Windows-10.

Any suggestions ?
BTW : I'm only a PC-User.
I did never a Windows-Recovery ore something else.

With thanks in advance
Reinhard

Not sure what you are asking for.

1. Are you wanting to have the PC ask for a password before Windows 10
is even booted?

2. Do you want Windows 10, after it is booted, to ask for a password
before it allows someone to use the machine?


Hi GlowingBlueMist

After power up there is only one way to get into windows-10 :

I have to key in my password. Then I'm user Reinhard.
And than I have windows-10 up and running and can click on icons
or run cmd.exe.

BUT there is NOTHING. Only the lock-screen (with a picture) and
4 symbols on the right bottom :

A symbol for the Keyboard-Language (DE for german)
A symbol for WIFI : airplane-mode, on/off, mobile
A symbol for enhanced handling
A symbol for : shut down, restart, power-save

As there is no way to type commands I cannot view the event-log
to see was has happened.

My next step will be. Put out the harddisk and look for the event-log.
(BTW : Can I modify the registry if the HD is in an external disk-box ?
Is there a freeware for that ?)

With thanks in advance
Reinhard

At this stage I'd be inclined to follow the suggestions from Paul.
  #9  
Old February 6th 17, 02:01 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Paul[_32_]
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Posts: 11,873
Default No Password Prompt at boot-time

Reinhard Skarbal wrote:
In article ,
says...
On 2/4/2017 3:54 PM, Reinhard Skarbal wrote:
Hi All

My Laptop Acer Aspire 1830 was delivered with Windows-7.
It was up dated to Windows-10.

But now there is no password prompt after booting.
Bios gaves me only the option to change the boot-order.
There is nothing like windows-recovery or repair-install.

I have only the old Windows-7-Recovery-DVD's.
But I would like to repair my Windows-10.

Any suggestions ?
BTW : I'm only a PC-User.
I did never a Windows-Recovery ore something else.

With thanks in advance
Reinhard

Not sure what you are asking for.

1. Are you wanting to have the PC ask for a password before Windows 10
is even booted?

2. Do you want Windows 10, after it is booted, to ask for a password
before it allows someone to use the machine?


Hi GlowingBlueMist

After power up there is only one way to get into windows-10 :

I have to key in my password. Then I'm user Reinhard.
And than I have windows-10 up and running and can click on icons
or run cmd.exe.

BUT there is NOTHING. Only the lock-screen (with a picture) and
4 symbols on the right bottom :

A symbol for the Keyboard-Language (DE for german)
A symbol for WIFI : airplane-mode, on/off, mobile
A symbol for enhanced handling
A symbol for : shut down, restart, power-save

As there is no way to type commands I cannot view the event-log
to see was has happened.

My next step will be. Put out the harddisk and look for the event-log.
(BTW : Can I modify the registry if the HD is in an external disk-box ?
Is there a freeware for that ?)

With thanks in advance
Reinhard


I actually forced a copy of Win10 into "tablet mode", and
the login screen was handled in non-tablet mode. I could not
leave myself "high and dry" when logging in. I always had
input capability, in proportion to the input methods available.

Could you post a picture of the screen ? I want to make sure
I'm not missing some hint here. There are a bewildering array
of lock screen and login options. Including an option for a
*text* entry screen. I don't know what happens if you use
console login mode on a tablet. Maybe the screen cracks and
smoke comes out :-)

This is an example of a photo sharing site. You can use a
digital camera, if nothing else is available. Or, the webcam
on your other computer. Remember to blank out any personally
identifiable information from the picture, before uploading.

https://postimage.org/index.php?um=flash

The site provides a URL pointing at the photo. This is an example
of a link to one of my uploads. I use a second browser, to
verify the URL I've selected, looks good. The thumbnail options
are too small to be useful.

https://s12.postimg.org/f5ov21itp/Wi..._Ahost_SSD.png

*******

Maybe you can gain access to "osk" and do the login from there ?
There should be an accessibility icon.

http://www.isunshare.com/windows-10/...indows-10.html

In my test VM, this is what I see. I neglected to capture the
OSK and overlay it onto the photo, so you'll have to imagine
a tiny onscreen keyboard above the other bits.

https://s24.postimg.org/4rdf7zs79/us...n_keyboard.jpg

But that doesn't explain why regular input doesn't work,
unless the keyboard driver isn't loading properly at start.

Paul
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Old February 6th 17, 06:58 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default No Password Prompt at boot-time

On 2/5/2017 8:01 PM, Paul wrote:
Reinhard Skarbal wrote:
snip
I have to key in my password. Then I'm user Reinhard.
And than I have windows-10 up and running and can click on icons
or run cmd.exe.


I re-read your message and saw the above passage. If in fact you can
run the cmd.exe program you should be able to reload Windows 10 with out
deleting your exiting programs and files.

Be sure to NOT insert a W10 install DVD until after your existing copy
of Windows 10 has booted. Then stick the DVD into the drive.

If your CD/DVD drive is drive letter "D" then you would put in the DVD
and enter run d:\setup.exe in the cmd.exe window and it should start the
windows install/repair system. When asked, tell it to keep your
personal files and apps and windows 10 should rebuild itself and keep
your stuff. The trick is to not boot from the DVD but rather to run the
DVD's setup.exe from the cmd.exe.

Do you agree Paul or is there a better way?

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Old February 6th 17, 07:01 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Paul[_32_]
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Default No Password Prompt at boot-time

GlowingBlueMist wrote:
On 2/5/2017 8:01 PM, Paul wrote:
Reinhard Skarbal wrote:
snip
I have to key in my password. Then I'm user Reinhard.
And than I have windows-10 up and running and can click on icons
or run cmd.exe.


I re-read your message and saw the above passage. If in fact you can
run the cmd.exe program you should be able to reload Windows 10 with out
deleting your exiting programs and files.

Be sure to NOT insert a W10 install DVD until after your existing copy
of Windows 10 has booted. Then stick the DVD into the drive.

If your CD/DVD drive is drive letter "D" then you would put in the DVD
and enter run d:\setup.exe in the cmd.exe window and it should start the
windows install/repair system. When asked, tell it to keep your
personal files and apps and windows 10 should rebuild itself and keep
your stuff. The trick is to not boot from the DVD but rather to run the
DVD's setup.exe from the cmd.exe.

Do you agree Paul or is there a better way?


Well, if you can get to a GUI and get the Setup.exe to
run off the DVD, that'll allow a Repair install.

There are other hacks to get around login. The "utilman" bypass for example.
I tested this a while ago, and it was still working. I think there was
some other example, of replacing osk.exe to do something like this. This
is to allow you to reset a password.

http://www.howtogeek.com/222262/how-...in-windows-10/

But I confuse easily and I'm still probably not following
the symptoms properly.

Paul
  #12  
Old February 7th 17, 11:50 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Reinhard Skarbal
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Default No Password Prompt at boot-time

In article ,
says...

On 2/5/2017 10:04 AM, Reinhard Skarbal wrote:
In article ,

says...

On 2/4/2017 3:54 PM, Reinhard Skarbal wrote:

Hi All

My Laptop Acer Aspire 1830 was delivered with Windows-7.
It was up dated to Windows-10.

But now there is no password prompt after booting.
Bios gaves me only the option to change the boot-order.
There is nothing like windows-recovery or repair-install.

I have only the old Windows-7-Recovery-DVD's.
But I would like to repair my Windows-10.

Any suggestions ?
BTW : I'm only a PC-User.
I did never a Windows-Recovery ore something else.

With thanks in advance
Reinhard

Not sure what you are asking for.

1. Are you wanting to have the PC ask for a password before Windows 10
is even booted?

2. Do you want Windows 10, after it is booted, to ask for a password
before it allows someone to use the machine?


Hi GlowingBlueMist

After power up there is only one way to get into windows-10 :

I have to key in my password. Then I'm user Reinhard.
And than I have windows-10 up and running and can click on icons
or run cmd.exe.

BUT there is NOTHING. Only the lock-screen (with a picture) and
4 symbols on the right bottom :

A symbol for the Keyboard-Language (DE for german)
A symbol for WIFI : airplane-mode, on/off, mobile
A symbol for enhanced handling
A symbol for : shut down, restart, power-save


Hi all

Thanks to all for the answers.
But now my Acer Aspire is dead.
(After remove and reinsert the HD = loose conections on mainboard ?)
So I have to go to the store to buy a new laptop.

With kindly egards
Reinhard
  #13  
Old February 7th 17, 05:27 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default No Password Prompt at boot-time

Reinhard Skarbal wrote:
In article ,
says...
On 2/5/2017 10:04 AM, Reinhard Skarbal wrote:
In article ,

says...
On 2/4/2017 3:54 PM, Reinhard Skarbal wrote:
Hi All

My Laptop Acer Aspire 1830 was delivered with Windows-7.
It was up dated to Windows-10.

But now there is no password prompt after booting.
Bios gaves me only the option to change the boot-order.
There is nothing like windows-recovery or repair-install.

I have only the old Windows-7-Recovery-DVD's.
But I would like to repair my Windows-10.

Any suggestions ?
BTW : I'm only a PC-User.
I did never a Windows-Recovery ore something else.

With thanks in advance
Reinhard

Not sure what you are asking for.

1. Are you wanting to have the PC ask for a password before Windows 10
is even booted?

2. Do you want Windows 10, after it is booted, to ask for a password
before it allows someone to use the machine?
Hi GlowingBlueMist

After power up there is only one way to get into windows-10 :

I have to key in my password. Then I'm user Reinhard.
And than I have windows-10 up and running and can click on icons
or run cmd.exe.

BUT there is NOTHING. Only the lock-screen (with a picture) and
4 symbols on the right bottom :

A symbol for the Keyboard-Language (DE for german)
A symbol for WIFI : airplane-mode, on/off, mobile
A symbol for enhanced handling
A symbol for : shut down, restart, power-save


Hi all

Thanks to all for the answers.
But now my Acer Aspire is dead.
(After remove and reinsert the HD = loose conections on mainboard ?)
So I have to go to the store to buy a new laptop.

With kindly egards
Reinhard


See if the BIOS screen (BIOS "Setup") responds, with the
hard drive removed.

This is to verify the motherboard still works.

Once you verify the CPU/RAM/Motherboard work, by
seeing a BIOS setup screen or BIOS boot messages,
then you can power off and start testing various
USB flash boot sources or replacement HDD boot sources.

Paul
  #14  
Old February 7th 17, 09:07 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Anonymous
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Default No Password Prompt at boot-time

Reinhard Skarbal wrote:
In article ,
says...

On 2/5/2017 10:04 AM, Reinhard Skarbal wrote:
In article ,

says...

On 2/4/2017 3:54 PM, Reinhard Skarbal wrote:

Hi All

My Laptop Acer Aspire 1830 was delivered with Windows-7.
It was up dated to Windows-10.

But now there is no password prompt after booting.
Bios gaves me only the option to change the boot-order.
There is nothing like windows-recovery or repair-install.

I have only the old Windows-7-Recovery-DVD's.
But I would like to repair my Windows-10.

Any suggestions ?
BTW : I'm only a PC-User.
I did never a Windows-Recovery ore something else.

With thanks in advance
Reinhard

Not sure what you are asking for.

1. Are you wanting to have the PC ask for a password before Windows 10
is even booted?

2. Do you want Windows 10, after it is booted, to ask for a password
before it allows someone to use the machine?

Hi GlowingBlueMist

After power up there is only one way to get into windows-10 :

I have to key in my password. Then I'm user Reinhard.
And than I have windows-10 up and running and can click on icons
or run cmd.exe.

BUT there is NOTHING. Only the lock-screen (with a picture) and
4 symbols on the right bottom :

A symbol for the Keyboard-Language (DE for german)
A symbol for WIFI : airplane-mode, on/off, mobile
A symbol for enhanced handling
A symbol for : shut down, restart, power-save


Hi all

Thanks to all for the answers.
But now my Acer Aspire is dead.
(After remove and reinsert the HD = loose conections on mainboard ?)
So I have to go to the store to buy a new laptop.

With kindly egards
Reinhard


Get a DVD and do repair install

--
Ken1943
  #15  
Old February 10th 17, 09:49 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Reinhard Skarbal
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Default No Password Prompt at boot-time

In article , lid says...

Reinhard Skarbal wrote:

....
Hi Paul

Thanks for suggestion.
But there is nothing.
New laptop already bought.

With kindly regards
Reinhard



 




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