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IE & Active X
Is it expected behavior that every-time IE seems to need to reinstall an active x control even though it shows "enabled" under it's settings? I have a D-Link IP camera requires an Active X control for full functionality. All XP/Vista and Win7 pcs I have that the ActiveX control has been installed on all now "just work" and I can view the image. Win 10 requires me to choose "Install" every time. Is there some way to just tell IE to keep using it? Edge shows the camera no problem but it doesn't show the controls for saving images, video etc. etc. |
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"pjp" wrote
| | Is it expected behavior that every-time IE seems to need to reinstall an | active x control even though it shows "enabled" under it's settings? | | I have a D-Link IP camera requires an Active X control for full | functionality. All XP/Vista and Win7 pcs I have that the ActiveX control | has been installed on all now "just work" and I can view the image. | | Win 10 requires me to choose "Install" every time. Is there some way to | just tell IE to keep using it? | | Edge shows the camera no problem but it doesn't show the controls for | saving images, video etc. etc. Are you sure it's an ActiveX control? An OCX or maybe a DLL? It only needs to be registered. That shouldn't need to be done twice. But it's not directly conected to IE. (As opposed to add-ons, which would be things like extensions.) An Ax control is installed system-wide. It won't work in Edge, however. IE11 disables IE standard behavior by default. In Edge it's removed altogether. Also, if it's a 32-bit Ax then it needs to run in IE32. Finally, it may be that you'll need to adjust IE ActiveX settings in the Security tab. I don't know how/why you're using IE with a control. Maybe you're connecting remotely? It may be possible to use another browser or, if it's a local usage, to use an HTA by renaming an HTML file to .hta, which simply removes all security restrictions. |
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| "pjp" wrote
| It definitely is an ActiveX control. It remains Enabled under Settings | even though it requires being reinstalled to use. I haven't managed to install IE11 at all, so I'm only advising based on my knowledge of IE. Maybe someone else will have an idea, but in case it might help.... It seems to be a BHO. You're not providing accurate info. Where is "Settings"? Isn't it under Manage Add-ons? What do you mean it requires being reinstalled? What does the message actually say? If the DLL is showing up as enabled in Add-ons then it is installed. I don't mean to split hairs, but these things matter. ActiveX controls run in a webpage. BHOs (add-ons) are DLLs that load with IE and can provide functionality, load extensions, etc. In Edge, both BHOs and ActiveX controls are broken. It's probably using script via "HTML5" and that's why the functionality is limited. So, no, MS is not trying to force Edge by breaking IE11. But IE11 is semi-broken. Each IE version has added new restrictions and security features that can confuse things. If it were me I'd go to D-Link and see if they have another option that can be run in Firefox. But if they do it might be Java, which could be a bigger headache than IE, as well as being a new security risk. |
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"Reinhard Skarbal" wrote
| Maybe this is a hint : | http://futurezone.at/produkte/window...ionen-webcams- | unbrauchbar/216.563.387 | But it's in german. You're talking about the update that broke webcams? That's a different issue. He's not talking about a webcam that doesn't work. He's talking about a security camera that he want's to access through IE. |
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Mayayana wrote:
"Reinhard Skarbal" wrote | Maybe this is a hint : | http://futurezone.at/produkte/window...ionen-webcams- | unbrauchbar/216.563.387 | But it's in german. You're talking about the update that broke webcams? That's a different issue. He's not talking about a webcam that doesn't work. He's talking about a security camera that he want's to access through IE. http://arstechnica.com/information-t...-most-webcams/ "The Anniversary Update changes some aspects of how Windows handles cameras, and the issue appears to affect both USB webcams and network-connected IP devices." Although I haven't read any descriptions of ip cameras that were affected. And maybe it didn't affect Firewire cameras yet... because nobody tested it :-) I don't see a reason why that developer at Microsoft, wouldn't make a list of all the class drivers supporting cameras, and ruin all of them. For my webcam, the webcam software continues to malfunction, whether the frameserve registry setting is true or false. In one state, the software crashes almost immediately. In the other state, the software starts up and the display doesn't have a preview image coming from the camera. (The camera rectangle on the screen remains black.) If you click the "take a picture" button, then it crashes. If you disable Frameserve and use the DShow interface directly (without manufacturer software), then it works. I can record from that camera with VLC. But then I cannot control any custom settings on the camera. (That's what the manufacturer software is for, it has several radio buttons for stuff.) And I don't have any plans with my "free" OS, to invest another $100 in a new webcam that they will only break in Windows 11. I already need to buy new video cards to keep them happy (my HD6450 is at the end of support). The only thing I can't figure out, is why they didn't make all my hard drives incompatible. They weren't trying hard enough... Shurely there would have been a way to make me buy all new hard drives. Paul |
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"Paul" wrote:
| And I don't have any plans with my "free" OS, to | invest another $100 in a new webcam that they will only | break in Windows 11. I already need to buy new video | cards to keep them happy (my HD6450 is at the end of support). | | The only thing I can't figure out, is why they didn't | make all my hard drives incompatible. They weren't | trying hard enough... Shurely there would have been | a way to make me buy all new hard drives. | Lucky for you that you're just playing with it, huh? |
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Mayayana wrote:
"Paul" wrote: | And I don't have any plans with my "free" OS, to | invest another $100 in a new webcam that they will only | break in Windows 11. I already need to buy new video | cards to keep them happy (my HD6450 is at the end of support). | | The only thing I can't figure out, is why they didn't | make all my hard drives incompatible. They weren't | trying hard enough... Shurely there would have been | a way to make me buy all new hard drives. | Lucky for you that you're just playing with it, huh? Naturally, I have plenty of OSes and plenty of options. I'm not impressed with this from a Rolling Release perspective. Imagine if instead of my Webcam, it was my copy of Notepad that wouldn't open. Or, the network stack was ruined. And, like the "repair" for this webcam issue, the projected fix date is weeks or months away. I haven't seen any quick fix pushed out. Maybe they're "testing" the "quick fix" ? Naw. Why test it... If you didn't test the original code, why test the fix ? Paul |
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