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Old December 9th 11, 08:34 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
J. P. Gilliver (John)
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Default Can recent "Documents" entries be locked?

Is there a way to "lock" entries in the "Documents" list in the start
menu, such that they don't get pushed out by opening other documents?

I know I could make shortcuts to the documents I want to keep easy
access to, but if there is a way, it'd be handy. (I'm prompted by the
old Xtree Gold recent commands list, which _does_ [did, if you like]
have such a facility.)
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Old December 9th 11, 09:00 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
VanguardLH[_2_]
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Default Can recent "Documents" entries be locked?

J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:

Is there a way to "lock" entries in the "Documents" list in the start
menu, such that they don't get pushed out by opening other documents?

I know I could make shortcuts to the documents I want to keep easy
access to, but if there is a way, it'd be handy. (I'm prompted by the
old Xtree Gold recent commands list, which _does_ [did, if you like]
have such a facility.)


So why not create a new toolbar in the Windows taskbar that has
shortcuts to your favorite documents? Or put a shortcut on your
desktop? Or create a folder on your desktop with shortcuts to your
favorite documents? Why not create a special Favorites folder in your
My Documents folder that you can then easily navigate to using Start
menu - Documents - My Documents - Favorites?
  #3  
Old December 9th 11, 11:56 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
J. P. Gilliver (John)
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In message , VanguardLH
writes:
J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:

Is there a way to "lock" entries in the "Documents" list in the start
menu, such that they don't get pushed out by opening other documents?

I know I could make shortcuts to the documents I want to keep easy
access to, but if there is a way, it'd be handy. (I'm prompted by the
old Xtree Gold recent commands list, which _does_ [did, if you like]
have such a facility.)


So why not create a new toolbar in the Windows taskbar that has


I have a strong aversion to extra toolbars.

shortcuts to your favorite documents? Or put a shortcut on your
desktop? Or create a folder on your desktop with shortcuts to your


I said "I know I could make shortcuts" - you've even quoted me saying
so!

favorite documents? Why not create a special Favorites folder in your
My Documents folder that you can then easily navigate to using Start
menu - Documents - My Documents - Favorites?


All of these I can do. I just find the "recent" list a useful facility,
and wondered if there _is_ a way of locking entries in it (having been
spoiled by being able to do something similar somewhere else).

Incidentally, though I've just edited my "hosts" file, it doesn't appear
in the "recent" list: is this because it doesn't have an extension (i.
e. the recent list only picks up things with an automatic association)?
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Old December 10th 11, 01:29 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Char Jackson
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Default Can recent "Documents" entries be locked?

On Fri, 9 Dec 2011 23:56:43 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
wrote:

In message , VanguardLH
writes:
J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:

Is there a way to "lock" entries in the "Documents" list in the start
menu, such that they don't get pushed out by opening other documents?

I know I could make shortcuts to the documents I want to keep easy
access to, but if there is a way, it'd be handy. (I'm prompted by the
old Xtree Gold recent commands list, which _does_ [did, if you like]
have such a facility.)


So why not create a new toolbar in the Windows taskbar that has


I have a strong aversion to extra toolbars.

shortcuts to your favorite documents? Or put a shortcut on your
desktop? Or create a folder on your desktop with shortcuts to your


I said "I know I could make shortcuts" - you've even quoted me saying
so!

favorite documents? Why not create a special Favorites folder in your
My Documents folder that you can then easily navigate to using Start
menu - Documents - My Documents - Favorites?


All of these I can do. I just find the "recent" list a useful facility,
and wondered if there _is_ a way of locking entries in it (having been
spoiled by being able to do something similar somewhere else).


Under the heading of wacky, outlandish suggestions, how about creating
a reg file that's loaded with the documents you want to see, then
executing that reg file during every boot? (Since the list of recent
docs is stored in the Registry.) During a Windows session, new items
would be added to the list, but the next time you reboot your faves
would be back.

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Old December 10th 11, 02:17 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
VanguardLH[_2_]
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J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:

VanguardLH writes:

J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:

Is there a way to "lock" entries in the "Documents" list in the
start menu, such that they don't get pushed out by opening other
documents?

I know I could make shortcuts to the documents I want to keep easy
access to, but if there is a way, it'd be handy. (I'm prompted by
the old Xtree Gold recent commands list, which _does_ [did, if you
like] have such a facility.)


So why not create a new toolbar in the Windows taskbar that has


I have a strong aversion to extra toolbars.


What's the difference between a list of shortcuts in a toolbar versus
the same list of shortcuts in a menu? With the toolbar, it's right
there for immediate use. With a [sub]menu in the Start menu, you have
to wade through it to get at the recent docs list.

If you're concerned about consuming the Windows taskbar with toolbar(s)
that get long with lots of shortcuts, you can always drag the toolbar to
the right side of the taskbar or move a toolbar on the left up against
the rightside of the target toolbar to make the target toolbar smaller
in size. The minimum size of a toolbar, I think, is 3 shortcut icons.
If you have shrunk the size of a toolbar to less than the number of
shortcuts it has inside it, you'll see a chevron you can click on to
popup a list of the remaining shortcuts. You can also drag around the
shortcuts in a toolbar so they are listed in the order you want, so the
most-used shortcuts can be at the left side of the toolbar (or at the
top of the popup list when you click its chevron to see the hidden
shortcuts).

I have a toolbar for E-mail that has 11 shortcuts related to e-mail
services or programs. It doesn't suck up an 11-icon width toolbar. I
shrunk it down to show the 4 most used shortcuts. The other 7 are shown
when I click on the toolbar's chevron. Unlike the Recent list, I can
change the size of this toolbar to show as many or as few (min of 3)
items as I want.

Note: I do not use the bobble-head Fisher-Price version of the Start
menu. Immediately after installation of Windows XP, I switch to the
classic Start menu. From what I've seen using Google Images, the "My
Recent Documents" list behaves the same for either style of the Start
menu.

The registry keys to alter how many *documents* (not apps) are listed in
the Recent list a

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curre ntVersion\Policies\Explorer
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\Policies\Explorer

One is for the account under which you are logged in and the other is
system-wide across all accounts. The DWORD data item you define under
them is:

MaxRecentDocs

The default is 15 items. Increasing this count means you could display
more recently used docs; however, that Recent list is still a list of
recent docs, not a static list. FIFO: first in, first out. By having a
longer list, it would be longer for a document to get moved out of this
recently-used list but eventually it will get moved out.


shortcuts to your favorite documents? Or put a shortcut on your
desktop? Or create a folder on your desktop with shortcuts to your


I said "I know I could make shortcuts" - you've even quoted me saying
so!


You said "I know I could make shortcuts to the documents I want to keep
easy access to". That doesn't say WHERE you were creating those
shortcuts. No one here is looking over your shoulder to see at what you
are pointing. Without details, expect responses to duplicate what
you've already tried.

I was supposed to know those shortcuts were on your desktop? How? They
could've been under Start - Documents - My Documents (since that's
almost as easy a navigation in the Start menu as is Start - Documents
under which the Recent list is shown). I mentioned using a folder on
the desktop because, yeah, you could put shortcuts there, too, but no
one would know that's what you meant.

favorite documents? Why not create a special Favorites folder in your
My Documents folder that you can then easily navigate to using Start
menu - Documents - My Documents - Favorites?


All of these I can do. I just find the "recent" list a useful facility,


Therein is your problem. You note that you want to use the Most
*RECENT* menu in the Start menu. Well, that's a list of recent entries.
A document you opened 2 weeks ago probably won't be the most recent
after you've been opening several docs since then.

and wondered if there _is_ a way of locking entries in it (having been
spoiled by being able to do something similar somewhere else).


I didn't address the Recent list in the Start menu because, well, that's
what it is for: most recently used documents. As I recall, there is a
registry setting where you can change the count of items shown in the
Recent list but they are still a FIFO list of recently opened documents.
Because the Recent list is to show recently used documents, I figured
having another means of providing a *static* list of documents would
suffice.

Incidentally, though I've just edited my "hosts" file, it doesn't appear
in the "recent" list: is this because it doesn't have an extension (i.
e. the recent list only picks up things with an automatic association)?


I edited my hosts file using Notepad and, yep, there was no entry under
the Recent list in the Start menu. I then created a new "testfile" file
on my desktop (no extension on the file's name). I opened it in both
Notepad and Wordpad. Still no entry in the Recent list. However,
remember that the Recent list is a list of documents, not apps. Since
there's no filetype for the file (because there's no extension), just
what app would be used to load that file into it?

With no extension on a file, and when you right-click and select the
Open action, you'll notice that you get a list of handlers (apps) that
might be used to view the file. Regardless of which one you pick to
view the file, the option "Always use the selected program to open this
kind of file" is disabled. That's because filetype association is based
on the extension. If there's no extension then which app is going to
load the listed document? You are selecting a *document* in the Recent
list, not an application to open that file. That list doesn't pop open
the "Open with" dialog to let you select which handler to use. The
Recent list would be rather cumbersome if you had to wade through the
"Open with" dialog to load the document into whatever handler you chose.
It's cumbersome when doing it in Windows Explorer but then no extension
means no idea what to use to load the file.

You won't be able to use the Recent list in the Start menu for a list of
static documents. That's not what it was designed to do. You won't see
a list on non-extensioned files because those are documents for which no
handler is associated with them. While you can't get exactly what you
want, I don't see a big effort in navigating one more submenu in the
Start menu: instead of Start - Documents, you'd navigate to Start -
Documents - My Documents (in the classic Start menu). The cutsy
bobble-head Start menu may not be similarly easy to use in which case
you might consider switching to the classic Start menu (right-click on
the Windows taskbar, Properties, Start Menu tab).
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Old December 10th 11, 02:29 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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Default Can recent "Documents" entries be locked?

On 12/9/2011 3:34 AM, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
Is there a way to "lock" entries in the "Documents" list in the start
menu, such that they don't get pushed out by opening other documents?

I know I could make shortcuts to the documents I want to keep easy
access to, but if there is a way, it'd be handy. (I'm prompted by the
old Xtree Gold recent commands list, which _does_ [did, if you like]
have such a facility.)


Right-click each one you want to keep, and click "Pin to Start Menu".
That'll move them above the "Recently Used" area into the Pinned area.

--

Joe =o)
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Old December 10th 11, 06:41 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
VanguardLH[_2_]
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Default Can recent "Documents" entries be locked?

Elmo wrote:

On 12/9/2011 3:34 AM, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
Is there a way to "lock" entries in the "Documents" list in the start
menu, such that they don't get pushed out by opening other documents?

I know I could make shortcuts to the documents I want to keep easy
access to, but if there is a way, it'd be handy. (I'm prompted by the
old Xtree Gold recent commands list, which _does_ [did, if you like]
have such a facility.)


Right-click each one you want to keep, and click "Pin to Start Menu".
That'll move them above the "Recently Used" area into the Pinned area.


Which OS were you thinking of? This newsgroup discusses Windows XP, not
Vista or 7.

Right-click on what? Right-clicking on an entry already in the Recent
list does not show a Pin entry in the context menu. In Windows Explorer
when right-clicking on a file, there is no Pin entry in the context
menu. There is no space in the cutsy Fisher-Price Start menu for pinned
documents (and definitely no space for such in the classic Start menu).
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Old December 10th 11, 09:53 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
J. P. Gilliver (John)
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Default Can recent "Documents" entries be locked?

In message , Char Jackson
writes:
On Fri, 9 Dec 2011 23:56:43 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
wrote:

[]
All of these I can do. I just find the "recent" list a useful facility,
and wondered if there _is_ a way of locking entries in it (having been
spoiled by being able to do something similar somewhere else).


Under the heading of wacky, outlandish suggestions, how about creating
a reg file that's loaded with the documents you want to see, then
executing that reg file during every boot? (Since the list of recent
docs is stored in the Registry.) During a Windows session, new items
would be added to the list, but the next time you reboot your faves
would be back.

Now that is the sort of (wacky or otherwise) suggestion that appeals to
me. I don't think I'll bother, but it's the sort of lateral thinking I
appreciate!
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Live Faust, die Jung.
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Old December 10th 11, 10:17 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
J. P. Gilliver (John)
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Default Can recent "Documents" entries be locked?

In message , VanguardLH
writes:
[]
What's the difference between a list of shortcuts in a toolbar versus
the same list of shortcuts in a menu? With the toolbar, it's right
there for immediate use. With a [sub]menu in the Start menu, you have
to wade through it to get at the recent docs list.

If you're concerned about consuming the Windows taskbar with toolbar(s)
that get long with lots of shortcuts, you can always drag the toolbar to
the right side of the taskbar or move a toolbar on the left up against
the rightside of the target toolbar to make the target toolbar smaller
in size. The minimum size of a toolbar, I think, is 3 shortcut icons.


Well, either this extra toolbar would take up extra space on the screen,
or, if crammed down to minimum, would still take up some space thus
crushing something else. I think; different people mean different things
by toolbar. But please read full post before responding (I may well have
misunderstood what you've said above, as I don't use toolbars much).
[]
Note: I do not use the bobble-head Fisher-Price version of the Start
menu. Immediately after installation of Windows XP, I switch to the
classic Start menu. From what I've seen using Google Images, the "My
Recent Documents" list behaves the same for either style of the Start
menu.


I too use the classic (as you say, soon after starting), though I don't
share the hatred that many people here seem to have of the default one;
in fact for many users (especially new users of the non-demanding type),
I can see the intentions.

The registry keys to alter how many *documents* (not apps) are listed in
the Recent list a

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\Policies\Explorer
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Cur rentVersion\Policies\Explorer

One is for the account under which you are logged in and the other is
system-wide across all accounts. The DWORD data item you define under
them is:

MaxRecentDocs


Thanks. I've put that in in both (it wasn't there in either); I probably
only needed one (I'm the only user here).

The default is 15 items. Increasing this count means you could display
more recently used docs; however, that Recent list is still a list of
recent docs, not a static list. FIFO: first in, first out. By having a
longer list, it would be longer for a document to get moved out of this
recently-used list but eventually it will get moved out.

I realise that. However, I've set it to 30, and I think that will cover
most eventualities - the doc.s I have in mind I do use _reasonably_
often. (I'm assuming that using such a link actually "promotes" it in
terms of its "recentness"; I'll find out, I guess.)

shortcuts to your favorite documents? Or put a shortcut on your
desktop? Or create a folder on your desktop with shortcuts to your


I said "I know I could make shortcuts" - you've even quoted me saying
so!


You said "I know I could make shortcuts to the documents I want to keep
easy access to". That doesn't say WHERE you were creating those
shortcuts. No one here is looking over your shoulder to see at what you
are pointing. Without details, expect responses to duplicate what
you've already tried.


I didn't say I was doing so, only that I know I could (-:! (Desktop was
one place I thought of.)
[]
what it is for: most recently used documents. As I recall, there is a
registry setting where you can change the count of items shown in the


Er - you told me what it is earlier in the same post (-:!
[]
I edited my hosts file using Notepad and, yep, there was no entry under
the Recent list in the Start menu. I then created a new "testfile" file
on my desktop (no extension on the file's name). I opened it in both
Notepad and Wordpad. Still no entry in the Recent list. However,
remember that the Recent list is a list of documents, not apps. Since
there's no filetype for the file (because there's no extension), just
what app would be used to load that file into it?


It would have been nice if it had been added to the recent list, and
when selected, popped up the "what shall I open this with" dialogue,
just as it does when I activate it from explorer; I don't see why that
should be so offensive. (With, as you say, documents that do have
extensions not popping up such a box when selected from the recent
list.)
[]
kind of file" is disabled. That's because filetype association is based
on the extension. If there's no extension then which app is going to
load the listed document? You are selecting a *document* in the Recent
list, not an application to open that file. That list doesn't pop open
the "Open with" dialog to let you select which handler to use. The
Recent list would be rather cumbersome if you had to wade through the
"Open with" dialog to load the document into whatever handler you chose.


I don't see why, however, it shouldn't pop up that dialogue just for
entries without extensions. However, obviously someone at Microsoft
decided not to add such files to the recent list, and since no further
XP development is AFAIK going on, we're stuck with that.

It's cumbersome when doing it in Windows Explorer but then no extension
means no idea what to use to load the file.

You won't be able to use the Recent list in the Start menu for a list of
static documents. That's not what it was designed to do. You won't see


See a later post.

a list on non-extensioned files because those are documents for which no
handler is associated with them. While you can't get exactly what you


See above (re the non-extended documents). [I don't suppose the name of
the hosts file - i. e. "hosts" - is stored somewhere in a registry key
is it, so it could be changed (to one _with_ an extension)? (Come to
think of it, that could also have security advantages too!)]

want, I don't see a big effort in navigating one more submenu in the
Start menu: instead of Start - Documents, you'd navigate to Start -
Documents - My Documents (in the classic Start menu). The cutsy
bobble-head Start menu may not be similarly easy to use in which case
you might consider switching to the classic Start menu (right-click on
the Windows taskbar, Properties, Start Menu tab).


As I've already said, I did ages ago. (Though I've noticed Microsoft,
when they call something "classic", actually only mean "the previous
version" - not "a fixed version" ["classic" in Windows 7 {if the term is
used there at all, I'm not sure} doesn't mean the same as it does in
XP].)
--
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Live Faust, die Jung.
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Old December 10th 11, 10:21 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
J. P. Gilliver (John)
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Default Can recent "Documents" entries be locked?

In message , Elmo
writes:
On 12/9/2011 3:34 AM, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
Is there a way to "lock" entries in the "Documents" list in the start
menu, such that they don't get pushed out by opening other documents?

I know I could make shortcuts to the documents I want to keep easy
access to, but if there is a way, it'd be handy. (I'm prompted by the
old Xtree Gold recent commands list, which _does_ [did, if you like]
have such a facility.)


Right-click each one you want to keep, and click "Pin to Start Menu".
That'll move them above the "Recently Used" area into the Pinned area.

Now that is exactly what I was looking for: a _simple_ way to say
"that's a document I keep finding I want to access, can it please not
drop off the list".

Unfortunately - though I suspected as much as soon as I saw "pin" (or
rather "Pin" - M$ are Obsessed With Capitalising Everything In Sight) -
this is not available under XP. ("Pin" is a term 7's designers like.)

However, the fact that someone decided to add it as a simple option in
7's interface shows that what I wanted wasn't something weird and
quirky, but something presumably more than one other person (if only
among M$'s developers) thought would be a good idea.
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G.5AL-IS-P--Ch++(p)Ar@T0H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

Live Faust, die Jung.
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Old December 10th 11, 12:43 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
VanguardLH[_2_]
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Default Can recent "Documents" entries be locked?

J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:

Well, either this extra toolbar would take up extra space on the screen,
or, if crammed down to minimum, would still take up some space thus
crushing something else. I think; different people mean different things
by toolbar. But please read full post before responding (I may well have
misunderstood what you've said above, as I don't use toolbars much).


The toolbar would take up some space for 3 icons and the chevron. The
rest of what shortcuts there were in that toolbar would turn into a
vertical popup when you clicked the chevron. The only toolbar you'd be
crushing would be this one if it had more than 3 shortcuts.

Whether it crushed something else in the taskbar depends on how you
arrange your taskbar and how many toolbars are already there. To
provide the most space for taskbar buttons for apps with windows, and to
have a separate line for all my toolbars, my taskbar is 2 rows high: top
line is for apps with taskbar buttons, bottom row is for toolbars and
addressbar.

You can also drag a toolbar out of the taskbar to position elsewhere on
the screen. If you, for example, dragged out the "docs" toolbar to the
right-side of the screen and docked it there, you'l have an entire
toolbar just for doc shortcuts and it wouldn't be crushing anything in
the Windows taskbar.

VanguardLH said:

instead of
Start - Documents
you'd navigate to
Start - Documents - My Documents


As I've already said, I did ages ago.


My reply can only address your posts timestamped BEFORE my reply, not to
posts that exist after my reply. Not in any of your prior posts did you
mention using that nav path but then I don't see you mention using that
nav path in any of your later posts, either. It's just 1 step away.
You don't need to save the actual docs there, just the shortcuts you
want to that static list for wherever are the actual doc files.
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Old December 10th 11, 02:19 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Elmo[_2_]
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Default Can recent "Documents" entries be locked?

On 12/10/2011 5:21 AM, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
In message , Elmo
writes:
On 12/9/2011 3:34 AM, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
Is there a way to "lock" entries in the "Documents" list in the start
menu, such that they don't get pushed out by opening other documents?

I know I could make shortcuts to the documents I want to keep easy
access to, but if there is a way, it'd be handy. (I'm prompted by the
old Xtree Gold recent commands list, which _does_ [did, if you like]
have such a facility.)


Right-click each one you want to keep, and click "Pin to Start Menu".
That'll move them above the "Recently Used" area into the Pinned area.

Now that is exactly what I was looking for: a _simple_ way to say
"that's a document I keep finding I want to access, can it please not
drop off the list".

Unfortunately - though I suspected as much as soon as I saw "pin" (or
rather "Pin" - M$ are Obsessed With Capitalising Everything In Sight) -
this is not available under XP. ("Pin" is a term 7's designers like.)

However, the fact that someone decided to add it as a simple option in
7's interface shows that what I wanted wasn't something weird and
quirky, but something presumably more than one other person (if only
among M$'s developers) thought would be a good idea.


I don't know how I got it, but it's a context menu option in my XP, SP3.
I thought it was from an XP update.. maybe not.

--

Joe =o)
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Old December 10th 11, 02:29 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Elmo[_2_]
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Default Can recent "Documents" entries be locked?

On 12/10/2011 5:21 AM, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
In message , Elmo
writes:
On 12/9/2011 3:34 AM, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
Is there a way to "lock" entries in the "Documents" list in the start
menu, such that they don't get pushed out by opening other documents?

I know I could make shortcuts to the documents I want to keep easy
access to, but if there is a way, it'd be handy. (I'm prompted by the
old Xtree Gold recent commands list, which _does_ [did, if you like]
have such a facility.)


Right-click each one you want to keep, and click "Pin to Start Menu".
That'll move them above the "Recently Used" area into the Pinned area.

Now that is exactly what I was looking for: a _simple_ way to say
"that's a document I keep finding I want to access, can it please not
drop off the list".

Unfortunately - though I suspected as much as soon as I saw "pin" (or
rather "Pin" - M$ are Obsessed With Capitalising Everything In Sight) -
this is not available under XP. ("Pin" is a term 7's designers like.)

However, the fact that someone decided to add it as a simple option in
7's interface shows that what I wanted wasn't something weird and
quirky, but something presumably more than one other person (if only
among M$'s developers) thought would be a good idea.


A Google search found this article on a registry hack to add the
feature. There are also two files offered to add/remove the feature, in
case you'd prefer not to edit the registry yourself.

http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windo...dows-vista-xp/

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Old December 10th 11, 02:58 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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Default Can recent "Documents" entries be locked?

On 12/10/2011 8:29 AM, Elmo wrote:
On 12/10/2011 5:21 AM, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
In , Elmo
writes:
On 12/9/2011 3:34 AM, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
Is there a way to "lock" entries in the "Documents" list in the start
menu, such that they don't get pushed out by opening other documents?

I know I could make shortcuts to the documents I want to keep easy
access to, but if there is a way, it'd be handy. (I'm prompted by the
old Xtree Gold recent commands list, which _does_ [did, if you like]
have such a facility.)

Right-click each one you want to keep, and click "Pin to Start Menu".
That'll move them above the "Recently Used" area into the Pinned area.

Now that is exactly what I was looking for: a _simple_ way to say
"that's a document I keep finding I want to access, can it please not
drop off the list".

Unfortunately - though I suspected as much as soon as I saw "pin" (or
rather "Pin" - M$ are Obsessed With Capitalising Everything In Sight) -
this is not available under XP. ("Pin" is a term 7's designers like.)

However, the fact that someone decided to add it as a simple option in
7's interface shows that what I wanted wasn't something weird and
quirky, but something presumably more than one other person (if only
among M$'s developers) thought would be a good idea.


A Google search found this article on a registry hack to add the
feature. There are also two files offered to add/remove the feature, in
case you'd prefer not to edit the registry yourself.

http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windo...dows-vista-xp/


What I do for such tasks is to create a folder anywhere (like the Start
Menu, Desktop, or where ever). And then place shortcuts to my most often
used docs in this folder. An extra benefit to this method, is you can
also choose another application to open the file besides the default one.

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  #15  
Old December 10th 11, 05:41 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Patok[_2_]
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Default Can recent "Documents" entries be locked?

J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
VanguardLH writes:

The registry keys to alter how many *documents* (not apps) are listed in
the Recent list a

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curre ntVersion\Policies\Explorer

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\Policies\Explorer


One is for the account under which you are logged in and the other is
system-wide across all accounts. The DWORD data item you define under
them is:

MaxRecentDocs


Thanks. I've put that in in both (it wasn't there in either); I probably
only needed one (I'm the only user here).



Let us know if it works. It does *not* work for me. I've changed all
three values (there is one more place to change: Group Policy - User
Configuration - Administrative Templates - Windows Components -
Windows Explorer - Maximum number of recent documents) setting them all
to 31 (hex 1f). The disappointing effect is, that if I do a flurry of
document openings, the number rises to about 25, quickly drops to about
20, and on the next day is back to 15. It just doesn't stick.




The default is 15 items. Increasing this count means you could display
more recently used docs; however, that Recent list is still a list of
recent docs, not a static list. FIFO: first in, first out. By having a
longer list, it would be longer for a document to get moved out of this
recently-used list but eventually it will get moved out.


I realise that. However, I've set it to 30, and I think that will cover
most eventualities - the doc.s I have in mind I do use _reasonably_
often. (I'm assuming that using such a link actually "promotes" it in
terms of its "recentness"; I'll find out, I guess.)


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