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Old December 28th 07, 03:25 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics
Beth_russell1960[_2_]
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Default Creating User profiles & Program permissions

I am trying to create a 2nd acct on my winxp pro sp2 machine, lots of space,
1 gig ram.

I just want to create a user that loads only the basic drivers, no
antivirus, no chat programs, no weather programs, no printers, nada, just
windows xp, so that I can have a user that is just basic. I am trying to use
video rendering software of family movies to dvd's and not have the ram used
by other processes that the profile doesnt need.

I have tried creating user acct, that failed, as it is either admin or
paired down but still loads all the programs in the start menu.

I have tried going into documents & settings, under the profiles and
removing all the programs except the ones I need in the start menu, plus
doing the same to the default user.

I have tried setting the user permissions via explorer to do the same.

I have even toyed with the idea of installing win98 SE so that I can have a
dual boot machine so I can just run Explorer and systray and then install
older versions of the software I need.

I would really rather NOT do that.

Any help, suggestions, or ideas?

Thanks

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Old December 28th 07, 04:04 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics
Shenan Stanley
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Default Creating User profiles & Program permissions

Beth_russell1960 wrote:
I am trying to create a 2nd acct on my winxp pro sp2 machine, lots
of space, 1 gig ram.

I just want to create a user that loads only the basic drivers, no
antivirus, no chat programs, no weather programs, no printers,
nada, just windows xp, so that I can have a user that is just
basic. I am trying to use video rendering software of family movies
to dvd's and not have the ram used by other processes that the
profile doesnt need.

I have tried creating user acct, that failed, as it is either admin
or paired down but still loads all the programs in the start menu.

I have tried going into documents & settings, under the profiles and
removing all the programs except the ones I need in the start menu,
plus doing the same to the default user.

I have tried setting the user permissions via explorer to do the
same.

I have even toyed with the idea of installing win98 SE so that I
can have a dual boot machine so I can just run Explorer and systray
and then install older versions of the software I need.

I would really rather NOT do that.


For what reason? Gaming?

Create the profile - it can even have the same rights as your other profile
if the reason is just to have less running. Since most of the stuff you are
trying to stop are started up in the registry (likely
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RUN \) or a service that
starts up (start button -- run -- services.msc -- OK) then you have a
couple of choices.

The best one (IMHO) is to create a batch script to kill the services (net
stop servicename) and find a decent command line to kill each of the
programs that startup in the registry you do not want running.

Another option would be to move the stuff in the HKLM (above) to the HKCU of
your main user and also have the batch script to stop the services after the
user in question (the other user) loads in their startup folder.

--
Shenan Stanley
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How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html


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Old December 28th 07, 06:22 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics
Beth_russell1960[_2_]
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Default Creating User profiles & Program permissions

The idea for the new profile is to be able to run a video rendering software
package so I can burn vhs tapes to dvd, without the lag in the program every
15 seconds from the OS memory leak.

I would like to be able to just run xp, minus all the other programs that
start up on the main profile, in the secondary profile.

Although your solution sounds like it would work just fine, it would appear
to be a rather complex and complicated process, and although I think I know
alot about programming I know that I don't.

With all the advances that XP has over 98SE is there not a way to create a
user that only has the basic XP services without the other programs?

Thanks

"Shenan Stanley" wrote:

Beth_russell1960 wrote:
I am trying to create a 2nd acct on my winxp pro sp2 machine, lots
of space, 1 gig ram.

I just want to create a user that loads only the basic drivers, no
antivirus, no chat programs, no weather programs, no printers,
nada, just windows xp, so that I can have a user that is just
basic. I am trying to use video rendering software of family movies
to dvd's and not have the ram used by other processes that the
profile doesnt need.

I have tried creating user acct, that failed, as it is either admin
or paired down but still loads all the programs in the start menu.

I have tried going into documents & settings, under the profiles and
removing all the programs except the ones I need in the start menu,
plus doing the same to the default user.

I have tried setting the user permissions via explorer to do the
same.

I have even toyed with the idea of installing win98 SE so that I
can have a dual boot machine so I can just run Explorer and systray
and then install older versions of the software I need.

I would really rather NOT do that.


For what reason? Gaming?

Create the profile - it can even have the same rights as your other profile
if the reason is just to have less running. Since most of the stuff you are
trying to stop are started up in the registry (likely
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RUN \) or a service that
starts up (start button -- run -- services.msc -- OK) then you have a
couple of choices.

The best one (IMHO) is to create a batch script to kill the services (net
stop servicename) and find a decent command line to kill each of the
programs that startup in the registry you do not want running.

Another option would be to move the stuff in the HKLM (above) to the HKCU of
your main user and also have the batch script to stop the services after the
user in question (the other user) loads in their startup folder.

--
Shenan Stanley
MS-MVP
--
How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html



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Old December 28th 07, 07:26 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics
DL
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Default Creating User profiles & Program permissions

Not after the event, because many apps are origonally installed for All
users
The batch file is an appropriate method to kill unwanted apps

"Beth_russell1960" wrote in
message ...
The idea for the new profile is to be able to run a video rendering
software
package so I can burn vhs tapes to dvd, without the lag in the program
every
15 seconds from the OS memory leak.

I would like to be able to just run xp, minus all the other programs that
start up on the main profile, in the secondary profile.

Although your solution sounds like it would work just fine, it would
appear
to be a rather complex and complicated process, and although I think I
know
alot about programming I know that I don't.

With all the advances that XP has over 98SE is there not a way to create a
user that only has the basic XP services without the other programs?

Thanks

"Shenan Stanley" wrote:

Beth_russell1960 wrote:
I am trying to create a 2nd acct on my winxp pro sp2 machine, lots
of space, 1 gig ram.

I just want to create a user that loads only the basic drivers, no
antivirus, no chat programs, no weather programs, no printers,
nada, just windows xp, so that I can have a user that is just
basic. I am trying to use video rendering software of family movies
to dvd's and not have the ram used by other processes that the
profile doesnt need.

I have tried creating user acct, that failed, as it is either admin
or paired down but still loads all the programs in the start menu.

I have tried going into documents & settings, under the profiles and
removing all the programs except the ones I need in the start menu,
plus doing the same to the default user.

I have tried setting the user permissions via explorer to do the
same.

I have even toyed with the idea of installing win98 SE so that I
can have a dual boot machine so I can just run Explorer and systray
and then install older versions of the software I need.

I would really rather NOT do that.


For what reason? Gaming?

Create the profile - it can even have the same rights as your other
profile
if the reason is just to have less running. Since most of the stuff you
are
trying to stop are started up in the registry (likely
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RUN \) or a service that
starts up (start button -- run -- services.msc -- OK) then you have a
couple of choices.

The best one (IMHO) is to create a batch script to kill the services (net
stop servicename) and find a decent command line to kill each of the
programs that startup in the registry you do not want running.

Another option would be to move the stuff in the HKLM (above) to the HKCU
of
your main user and also have the batch script to stop the services after
the
user in question (the other user) loads in their startup folder.

--
Shenan Stanley
MS-MVP
--
How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html





  #5  
Old January 6th 08, 11:14 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics
Sam Hobbs
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Default Creating User profiles & Program permissions

Microsoft is very serious about preventing memory leaks. If a software
vendor is blaming the OS for a memory leak then don't trust them to tell you
the truth about anything; the problem is their software, not Windows. There
are many ways that memory leaks can occur and some of them can be the result
of developers not reading the documentation well enough.


"Beth_russell1960" wrote in
message ...
without the lag in the program every
15 seconds from the OS memory leak.




  #6  
Old January 6th 08, 12:12 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics
Gordon
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Default Creating User profiles & Program permissions

"Sam Hobbs" wrote in message
...
Microsoft is very serious about preventing memory leaks.


BWAHAHAHAHA!
Have a look he
http://www.division6.co.uk/wp/2006/1...y-leak-issues/


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Old January 6th 08, 03:32 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics
Stan Brown
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Default Creating User profiles & Program permissions

Sun, 6 Jan 2008 03:14:50 -0800 from Sam Hobbs
:
Microsoft is very serious about preventing memory leaks.


Whether that's a true or false statement about Microsoft's
intentions, I guarantee you that a piece of software as complex as
Windows, particularly one developed by accretion rather than
planning, has multiple memory leaks.

If a software vendor is blaming the OS for a memory leak then don't
trust them to tell you the truth about anything; the problem is
their software, not Windows.


Yeah, right.

(A classic example of a double positive making a negative.)

The problem may be in their software, or in Windows, or in both.

--
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http://OakRoadSystems.com/
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been my life work." -- Marie Dressler, in /Dinner at Eight/
  #8  
Old January 6th 08, 11:21 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics
Sam Hobbs
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Default Creating User profiles & Program permissions

"Gordon" wrote in message
...
"Sam Hobbs" wrote in message
...
Microsoft is very serious about preventing memory leaks.


BWAHAHAHAHA!
Have a look he
http://www.division6.co.uk/wp/2006/1...y-leak-issues/



Anyone can call anything something that it is not and in this case the
problem is not a memory leak. The person just does not know what the
definition of a memory leak is. If that person were to allow more comments
about their article then I would explain in the comments.



 




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