Installation on more than one home computer

yep and he shoe is on the other foot with microsoft failing to live up to its responsibilities in providing updates/upgrades for it's hardware/software for new OS like vista.







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"Bruce Chambers" wrote
NowItsWhatever wrote:
I was able to install Windows 2000 on multiple home computers.

True, but not without violating the EULA. In those days, Microsoft
was naive enough to expect people to be honest and abide by the
license terms, so there was no mechanism to prevent the sort of
casual software piracy you committed.

The copyright act permits you to make a copy of copyrighted material
for your own personal use only. This is known as 'first use rights'.
A licence agreement cannot change what you are entitled in law to do.

Making a backup copy is different than installing the same copy on
multiple computes.


Where does 'backup copy' come into it. You are entitled to make a copy
of copyrighted material (for which you own a legitimate copy obviously),
for you own personal use. The copyright act makes no specification as
to what you use it for. This busines of a 'backup copy' only is just
something the software suppliers want you to believe.


I don't understand your position here. Making a copy is fine.
Installing that copy on multiple machines is a violation of the EULA.
What's your point?


Under EU law, an EULA that is contained within a package that does not get
revealed until you open the shrink wrap is unlawful and unenforceable.
Microsoft have always backed out of enforcing it at the last minute.
There is thus no established case law in support of an EULA in Europe.

Ok, now we know the perspective you're talking from. You didn't mention EU
before. It does come down to integrity. Abiding by what one agreed to when
they installed the OS. To me that's much more binding than concern for
reprisals.

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M.I.5¾ wrote:


The copyright act makes no specification as to what you use it for.

Please provide a specific, verifiable reference for this mystery law.


No case has been successfully prosecuted in the courts within this
jurisdiction.


No, no, my reading challenged "friend." Please provide a link to prove
that the law is as you say it is, as I have done.


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M.I.5¾ wrote:


Why is that the yanks think that they are the only country in the world?
Everyone has rattled off a whole load of law that is completely
inapplicable. You might like to think that your laws apply throughout the
planet - but they don't.



Which is why I asked what country you were in and for you to provide a
verifiable reference for the pertinent law in your location. You have
so far ignored the request for a specific reference, so I can only
assume that you're lying about the contents of said "law."


Where I am, (UK) the prevailing opinion is that you buy the operating system
(or whatever) to use.

Don't care about "opinion." What does the law actually say? Provide a
link to a reputable source, or stop making such claims.


There is no distinction in law between computer
copyright or any other copyright.


Having lived in Great Britain for several years, I've no doubt
whatsoever that the above is a falsehood. Whether deliberate or not
remains to be seen, but I've my suspicions.

Microsoft (and many others) maintain that
you don't buy it and that you only have a licence to use it (but that is
purely a biased opinion based on vested interest). Whenever the situation
is challenged and Microsoft try to take someone to court, Microsoft have
always backed out of the case at the 11th hour.

Please name a single specific instance. Provide links to a reputable
source.

Until you can provide some sort of substantiation for what appear to be
patently absurd claims, no one is going to give you a bit of credibility.



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