Win10 Home file permissions

I upgraded from Win7HP x64 to Win10Home x64, and almost everything that
requires an in-program update (YouTube Downloader being the latest) requires
me to start the program as Admin in order for the update to not fail. Simply
"Taking Ownership" doesn't cut it; it has to be started as Admin.

Is there an easy way around this? I find it pretty ridiculous that anything
that needs to be updated has to be closed, then re-opened with "Run as
Administrator." I am the PC admin; why isn't that enough?

BTW, UAC is turned off.
TIA!!
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SC Tom wrote:

I upgraded from Win7HP x64 to Win10Home x64, and almost everything that
requires an in-program update (YouTube Downloader being the latest) requires
me to start the program as Admin in order for the update to not fail. Simply
"Taking Ownership" doesn't cut it; it has to be started as Admin.

Is there an easy way around this? I find it pretty ridiculous that anything
that needs to be updated has to be closed, then re-opened with "Run as
Administrator." I am the PC admin; why isn't that enough?

BTW, UAC is turned off.
TIA!!

http://www.windowsbleu.com/2014/10/h...ntrol-uac.html

Claims that setting to the lowest setting using the GUI wizard does not
completely disable UAC. See if setting the policy in the registry more
completely disables UAC.

"VanguardLH" wrote in message
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SC Tom wrote:

I upgraded from Win7HP x64 to Win10Home x64, and almost everything that
requires an in-program update (YouTube Downloader being the latest)
requires
me to start the program as Admin in order for the update to not fail.
Simply
"Taking Ownership" doesn't cut it; it has to be started as Admin.

Is there an easy way around this? I find it pretty ridiculous that
anything
that needs to be updated has to be closed, then re-opened with "Run as
Administrator." I am the PC admin; why isn't that enough?

BTW, UAC is turned off.
TIA!!

http://www.windowsbleu.com/2014/10/h...ntrol-uac.html

Claims that setting to the lowest setting using the GUI wizard does not
completely disable UAC. See if setting the policy in the registry more
completely disables UAC.

Unfortunately, if I use that registry setting, none of my apps will work.
They all bring up a "UAC must be turned on for this app to run" message.
Bummer :-(
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SC Tom

On 04/12/2015 20:44, SC Tom wrote:
I upgraded from Win7HP x64 to Win10Home x64, and almost everything
that requires an in-program update (YouTube Downloader being the
latest) requires me to start the program as Admin in order for the
update to not fail. Simply "Taking Ownership" doesn't cut it; it has
to be started as Admin.

Is there an easy way around this? I find it pretty ridiculous that
anything that needs to be updated has to be closed, then re-opened
with "Run as Administrator." I am the PC admin; why isn't that enough?

BTW, UAC is turned off.
TIA!!

Common sense tells me that when performing any upgrades, you need to be
logged in as Administrator or a user with Administrator privileges.
Upgrades are not done daily. You need to sort out your schedule and
spend 15 minutes every week to log in as Administrator and checking for
any updates of your applications. For day to day usage of your
computer, you need to be a Standard User so that this protects your
computer from updating all "malware packages" and "viruses"
automatically!!!!!!

So the easy way around is to plan on a weekly basis! Simple. Don't you
think so?



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"VanguardLH" wrote in message
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SC Tom wrote:

I upgraded from Win7HP x64 to Win10Home x64, and almost everything that
requires an in-program update (YouTube Downloader being the latest)
requires
me to start the program as Admin in order for the update to not fail.
Simply
"Taking Ownership" doesn't cut it; it has to be started as Admin.

Is there an easy way around this? I find it pretty ridiculous that
anything
that needs to be updated has to be closed, then re-opened with "Run as
Administrator." I am the PC admin; why isn't that enough?

BTW, UAC is turned off.
TIA!!

http://www.windowsbleu.com/2014/10/h...ntrol-uac.html

Claims that setting to the lowest setting using the GUI wizard does not
completely disable UAC. See if setting the policy in the registry more
completely disables UAC.

Along with my previous reply, the OS updated itself to 10586 during the
night. We'll see what fresh hell has been bestowed upon me now. I haven't
had to update anything since the install, but I'm sure I will soon.

Thanks!
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On 12/5/2015 4:44 AM, SC Tom wrote:

Is there an easy way around this? I find it pretty ridiculous that
anything that needs to be updated has to be closed, then re-opened with
"Run as Administrator." I am the PC admin; why isn't that enough?


It's security. I even change the notification from Prompt For Consent to
Request Password!

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On 12/5/2015 2:57 AM, Good Guy wrote:
On 04/12/2015 20:44, SC Tom wrote:
I upgraded from Win7HP x64 to Win10Home x64, and almost everything

BTW, UAC is turned off.
TIA!!

Common sense tells me that when performing any upgrades, you need to be
logged in as Administrator or a user with Administrator privileges.
Upgrades are not done daily. You need to sort out your schedule and
spend 15 minutes every week to log in as Administrator and checking for
any updates of your applications. For day to day usage of your
computer, you need to be a Standard User so that this protects your
computer from updating all "malware packages" and "viruses"
automatically!!!!!!


Are you saying your Windows 10 computer will not update, unless there is
an administrator logged in?

Is this a way to prevent the random MS update for the Windows 10 OS?

On 05/12/2015 13:19, Keith Nuttle wrote:



Are you saying your Windows 10 computer will not update, unless there
is an administrator logged in?

Is this a way to prevent the random MS update for the Windows 10 OS?

I am not sure of this is the way but I have blocked/disabled Automatic
Updates from the service panel.

Disable Windows Update
http://s23.postimg.org/kp9l467ej/2015_12_05_1357.png

Up to now it works but who knows if this is going to be a long term
solution.

My update plan is to login as Administrator once every 3 months on the
usual quarter days and do the necessary updates and upgrades. The next
schedule is on 25th December but I will be in Scotland so it has to wait
until 2nd January. this is not good way to deal with for everybody but
I am pretty careful in what I browse and which sites I visit. Also my
Symantec is pretty good to protect me and I have also changed the dns
servers to go via symantec so any links I get are checked before I can
open them.

Some people have told me that this diaablement doesn't stick on their
machine and they still get the updates. I don't know what is wrong
with their machines but they keep messing around all the time so I have
given up on them. These are people working for me.

My machine is for business, for learning and for research purposes only
so I don't have the time to keep changing anything on them.



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SC Tom wrote:

"VanguardLH" wrote in message
...
SC Tom wrote:

I upgraded from Win7HP x64 to Win10Home x64, and almost everything that
requires an in-program update (YouTube Downloader being the latest)
requires
me to start the program as Admin in order for the update to not fail.
Simply
"Taking Ownership" doesn't cut it; it has to be started as Admin.

Is there an easy way around this? I find it pretty ridiculous that
anything
that needs to be updated has to be closed, then re-opened with "Run as
Administrator." I am the PC admin; why isn't that enough?

BTW, UAC is turned off.
TIA!!

http://www.windowsbleu.com/2014/10/h...ntrol-uac.html

Claims that setting to the lowest setting using the GUI wizard does not
completely disable UAC. See if setting the policy in the registry more
completely disables UAC.

Unfortunately, if I use that registry setting, none of my apps will work.
They all bring up a "UAC must be turned on for this app to run" message.
Bummer :-(

Did you reboot to effect the change? Editing the registry does not
alter the setup established during Windows load. Something has to read
the changed setting to effect that change. Windows reads the registry
on its loading to establish many of it behaviors during that session.

"Keith Nuttle" wrote in message
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On 12/5/2015 2:57 AM, Good Guy wrote:
On 04/12/2015 20:44, SC Tom wrote:
I upgraded from Win7HP x64 to Win10Home x64, and almost everything

BTW, UAC is turned off.
TIA!!

Common sense tells me that when performing any upgrades, you need to be
logged in as Administrator or a user with Administrator privileges.
Upgrades are not done daily. You need to sort out your schedule and
spend 15 minutes every week to log in as Administrator and checking for
any updates of your applications. For day to day usage of your
computer, you need to be a Standard User so that this protects your
computer from updating all "malware packages" and "viruses"
automatically!!!!!!


Are you saying your Windows 10 computer will not update, unless there is
an administrator logged in?

Is this a way to prevent the random MS update for the Windows 10 OS?

No, not Windows Update, just 3rd-party programs.

I tried VanguardLH's suggestion of totally disabling UAC, but that killed
all the in-bred Win10 apps. And, overnight, it updated to v.1511 (OS Build
10586.17) and now I have to reset all the defaults back to the way I had
them. That's what I get for letting it do that :-( There must be a way to
save all my preferences, and then when an update changes everything to
Windows defaults, I can change it back in one fell swoop without having to
through every single file extension and setting it to how I like it. For
example, I would much rather use WMP or VLC for playing MP3s instead of the
default Groove. I guess that'll be a search on another day :-)

(Aside to Good Guy: If you had read the OP, you would see that I am the
administrator, therefore I am logged in as such.)
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SC Tom wrote on 12/4/2015 9:06 PM:


"VanguardLH" wrote in message
...
SC Tom wrote:

I upgraded from Win7HP x64 to Win10Home x64, and almost everything that
requires an in-program update (YouTube Downloader being the latest)
requires
me to start the program as Admin in order for the update to not fail.
Simply
"Taking Ownership" doesn't cut it; it has to be started as Admin.

Is there an easy way around this? I find it pretty ridiculous that
anything
that needs to be updated has to be closed, then re-opened with "Run as
Administrator." I am the PC admin; why isn't that enough?

BTW, UAC is turned off.
TIA!!

http://www.windowsbleu.com/2014/10/h...ntrol-uac.html


Claims that setting to the lowest setting using the GUI wizard does not
completely disable UAC. See if setting the policy in the registry more
completely disables UAC.

Unfortunately, if I use that registry setting, none of my apps will
work. They all bring up a "UAC must be turned on for this app to run"
message. Bummer :-(

Do you mean Windows Store apps or also Windows programs?


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"VanguardLH" wrote in message
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SC Tom wrote:

"VanguardLH" wrote in message
...
SC Tom wrote:

I upgraded from Win7HP x64 to Win10Home x64, and almost everything that
requires an in-program update (YouTube Downloader being the latest)
requires
me to start the program as Admin in order for the update to not fail.
Simply
"Taking Ownership" doesn't cut it; it has to be started as Admin.

Is there an easy way around this? I find it pretty ridiculous that
anything
that needs to be updated has to be closed, then re-opened with "Run as
Administrator." I am the PC admin; why isn't that enough?

BTW, UAC is turned off.
TIA!!

http://www.windowsbleu.com/2014/10/h...ntrol-uac.html

Claims that setting to the lowest setting using the GUI wizard does not
completely disable UAC. See if setting the policy in the registry more
completely disables UAC.

Unfortunately, if I use that registry setting, none of my apps will work.
They all bring up a "UAC must be turned on for this app to run" message.
Bummer :-(

Did you reboot to effect the change? Editing the registry does not
alter the setup established during Windows load. Something has to read
the changed setting to effect that change. Windows reads the registry
on its loading to establish many of it behaviors during that session.

Yep, rebooted it. It seems to be a common problem according to Google,
although it's not considered to be a problem, but is by design.

I should clarify that it's the Windows Apps that won't work. 3rd-party
programs work OK (or at least the ones I tried did), but unfortunately I
didn't have any that needed updating so I could test it. But, with the
Windows apps not working, it's kind of a deal breaker. Back to the drawing
board :-(
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"Ed Mullen" wrote in message
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SC Tom wrote on 12/4/2015 9:06 PM:


"VanguardLH" wrote in message
...
SC Tom wrote:

I upgraded from Win7HP x64 to Win10Home x64, and almost everything that
requires an in-program update (YouTube Downloader being the latest)
requires
me to start the program as Admin in order for the update to not fail.
Simply
"Taking Ownership" doesn't cut it; it has to be started as Admin.

Is there an easy way around this? I find it pretty ridiculous that
anything
that needs to be updated has to be closed, then re-opened with "Run as
Administrator." I am the PC admin; why isn't that enough?

BTW, UAC is turned off.
TIA!!

http://www.windowsbleu.com/2014/10/h...ntrol-uac.html


Claims that setting to the lowest setting using the GUI wizard does not
completely disable UAC. See if setting the policy in the registry more
completely disables UAC.

Unfortunately, if I use that registry setting, none of my apps will
work. They all bring up a "UAC must be turned on for this app to run"
message. Bummer :-(

Do you mean Windows Store apps or also Windows programs?

I should have clarified that it's the native Windows Apps like Calculator,
Calendar, and Money that won't open. 3rd-party programs still run OK (or at
least the ones I tried did), but unfortunately I didn't have any that needed
updating so that I could test that aspect.
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SC Tom