Mail Issues

I've been using Outlook 2003 for years and it did all I needed. When I
upgraded to Windows 10, it killed Outlook 2003. I can still received
and read emails but cannot send a new one. I cannot activate the
Office 2003 suite even though it was activated under Windows 7.
Automatic activation says I have too many installations so cannot add
another one (I actually have no working installations). Telephone
support is unavailable for this product so I am stuck.

I started using the mail that came with Windows 10, but then found out
that the programming is incomplete. It is not possible to add new
folders. Help says that ability is coming soon, whatever that means.

At this point, I intend to set up Gmail to send and receive all my
mail accounts and be finished with this.

Shoe wrote on 12/8/2015 1:47 PM:
I've been using Outlook 2003 for years and it did all I needed. When I
upgraded to Windows 10, it killed Outlook 2003. I can still received
and read emails but cannot send a new one. I cannot activate the
Office 2003 suite even though it was activated under Windows 7.
Automatic activation says I have too many installations so cannot add
another one (I actually have no working installations). Telephone
support is unavailable for this product so I am stuck.

I started using the mail that came with Windows 10, but then found out
that the programming is incomplete. It is not possible to add new
folders. Help says that ability is coming soon, whatever that means.

At this point, I intend to set up Gmail to send and receive all my
mail accounts and be finished with this.


You could install something like Mozilla Thunderbird and use that.

--
Ed Mullen
http://edmullen.net/
"One of the great tragedies of life is the murder of a beautiful theory
by a gang of brutal facts." - Benjamin Franklin

On 08-Dec-2015 13:52, Ed Mullen wrote:
Shoe wrote on 12/8/2015 1:47 PM:
I've been using Outlook 2003 for years and it did all I needed. When I
upgraded to Windows 10, it killed Outlook 2003. I can still received
and read emails but cannot send a new one. I cannot activate the
Office 2003 suite even though it was activated under Windows 7.
Automatic activation says I have too many installations so cannot add
another one (I actually have no working installations). Telephone
support is unavailable for this product so I am stuck.

I started using the mail that came with Windows 10, but then found out
that the programming is incomplete. It is not possible to add new
folders. Help says that ability is coming soon, whatever that means.

At this point, I intend to set up Gmail to send and receive all my
mail accounts and be finished with this.


You could install something like Mozilla Thunderbird and use that.


https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/all/

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On 2015-12-08 1:52 PM, Ed Mullen wrote:
Shoe wrote on 12/8/2015 1:47 PM:
I've been using Outlook 2003 for years and it did all I needed.
When I upgraded to Windows 10, it killed Outlook 2003. I can
still received and read emails but cannot send a new one. I
cannot activate the Office 2003 suite even though it was
activated under Windows 7. Automatic activation says I have too
many installations so cannot add another one (I actually have no
working installations). Telephone support is unavailable for this
product so I am stuck.

I started using the mail that came with Windows 10, but then
found out that the programming is incomplete. It is not possible
to add new folders. Help says that ability is coming soon,
whatever that means.

At this point, I intend to set up Gmail to send and receive all
my mail accounts and be finished with this.


You could install something like Mozilla Thunderbird and use that.

I'll vouch for Thunderbird. It also allows users to easily set up
encryption for their mail accounts if every they choose to keep their
data away from the American government which claims to need it to
fight "terrorism" all the while being powerless to actually stop it.


- --
Slimer
EFF & OpenMedia member / IFAW & PETA supporter
Matthew 7:12: "In everything, therefore, treat people the same way you
want them to treat you, for this is the Law and the Prophets."
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On 08-Dec-2015 14:08, Slimer wrote:
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On 2015-12-08 1:52 PM, Ed Mullen wrote:
Shoe wrote on 12/8/2015 1:47 PM:
I've been using Outlook 2003 for years and it did all I needed.
When I upgraded to Windows 10, it killed Outlook 2003. I can
still received and read emails but cannot send a new one. I
cannot activate the Office 2003 suite even though it was
activated under Windows 7. Automatic activation says I have too
many installations so cannot add another one (I actually have no
working installations). Telephone support is unavailable for this
product so I am stuck.

I started using the mail that came with Windows 10, but then
found out that the programming is incomplete. It is not possible
to add new folders. Help says that ability is coming soon,
whatever that means.

At this point, I intend to set up Gmail to send and receive all
my mail accounts and be finished with this.


You could install something like Mozilla Thunderbird and use that.

I'll vouch for Thunderbird. It also allows users to easily set up
encryption for their mail accounts if every they choose to keep their
data away from the American government which claims to need it to
fight "terrorism" all the while being powerless to actually stop it.


snip the useless pgp sig and broken sig delimiter

1. Your sig delimiter is broken.
2. Do you really think that a pgp sig is necessary in a newsgroup.
3. Your almost ready to join my kill file.

Shoe wrote:

I've been using Outlook 2003 for years and it did all I needed. When I
upgraded to Windows 10, it killed Outlook 2003. I can still received
and read emails but cannot send a new one. I cannot activate the
Office 2003 suite even though it was activated under Windows 7.
Automatic activation says I have too many installations so cannot add
another one (I actually have no working installations). Telephone
support is unavailable for this product so I am stuck.

I started using the mail that came with Windows 10, but then found out
that the programming is incomplete. It is not possible to add new
folders. Help says that ability is coming soon, whatever that means.

At this point, I intend to set up Gmail to send and receive all my
mail accounts and be finished with this.

You did not want help with Windows 10 or with Outlook 2003. This was a
rant. Feel better now after venting?

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On 2015-12-08 4:00 PM, Leala wrote:
On 08-Dec-2015 14:08, Slimer wrote:
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On 2015-12-08 1:52 PM, Ed Mullen wrote:
Shoe wrote on 12/8/2015 1:47 PM:
I've been using Outlook 2003 for years and it did all I
needed. When I upgraded to Windows 10, it killed Outlook
2003. I can still received and read emails but cannot send a
new one. I cannot activate the Office 2003 suite even though
it was activated under Windows 7. Automatic activation says I
have too many installations so cannot add another one (I
actually have no working installations). Telephone support is
unavailable for this product so I am stuck.

I started using the mail that came with Windows 10, but then
found out that the programming is incomplete. It is not
possible to add new folders. Help says that ability is coming
soon, whatever that means.

At this point, I intend to set up Gmail to send and receive
all my mail accounts and be finished with this.


You could install something like Mozilla Thunderbird and use
that.

I'll vouch for Thunderbird. It also allows users to easily set
up encryption for their mail accounts if every they choose to
keep their data away from the American government which claims to
need it to fight "terrorism" all the while being powerless to
actually stop it.


snip the useless pgp sig and broken sig delimiter

1. Your sig delimiter is broken.

The OpenPGP key is a good one but it was created by Unseen.is and
therefore doesn't play nice for some people. The reason I use OpenPGP
in general is because there is a loser in another newsgroup who has a
habit of stealing peoples' identities and posting as them. I insert it
as a way of authenticating the posts by signing them.

2. Do you really think that a pgp sig is necessary in a newsgroup.

It isn't, but the above mentions _why_ I'm using it.

3. Your almost ready to join my kill file.

I will try to keep on trucking despite the trauma.

- --
Slimer
EFF & OpenMedia member / IFAW & PETA supporter
Matthew 7:12: "In everything, therefore, treat people the same way you
want them to treat you, for this is the Law and the Prophets."
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On Tue, 8 Dec 2015 13:52:01 -0500, Ed Mullen wrote:

You could install something like Mozilla Thunderbird and use that.

Seriously lacking in support as time goes on. Claws mail might do if
you like that kind of client.

mechanic wrote:

Ed Mullen wrote:

You could install something like Mozilla Thunderbird and use that.

Seriously lacking in support as time goes on.

It would have been better if they'd stopped "supporting" it earlier, so
people didn't need to disable so much of the later fiddling with it.

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On 2015-12-09 8:00 AM, Andy Burns wrote:
mechanic wrote:

Ed Mullen wrote:

You could install something like Mozilla Thunderbird and use
that.

Seriously lacking in support as time goes on.

It would have been better if they'd stopped "supporting" it
earlier, so people didn't need to disable so much of the later
fiddling with it.

I'm curious as to which support Thunderbird is lacking in as time goes
on. For me, it works well.


- --
Slimer
EFF & OpenMedia member / IFAW & PETA supporter
Matthew 7:12: "In everything, therefore, treat people the same way you
want them to treat you, for this is the Law and the Prophets."
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Slimer wrote:

Andy Burns wrote:

mechanic wrote:

Ed Mullen wrote:

You could install something like Mozilla Thunderbird and use
that.

Seriously lacking in support as time goes on.

It would have been better if they'd stopped "supporting" it
earlier, so people didn't need to disable so much of the later
fiddling with it.

I'm curious as to which support Thunderbird is lacking in as time goes
on. For me, it works well.

I'm not complaining, it works fine, it's better for being left alone.

Time will tell what happens now Mozilla want to actively stop supporting
it, rather than passively stop ...

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On 2015-12-09 8:10 AM, Andy Burns wrote:
Slimer wrote:

Andy Burns wrote:

mechanic wrote:

Ed Mullen wrote:

You could install something like Mozilla Thunderbird and
use that.

Seriously lacking in support as time goes on.

It would have been better if they'd stopped "supporting" it
earlier, so people didn't need to disable so much of the later
fiddling with it.

I'm curious as to which support Thunderbird is lacking in as time
goes on. For me, it works well.

I'm not complaining, it works fine, it's better for being left
alone.

Time will tell what happens now Mozilla want to actively stop
supporting it, rather than passively stop ...

If they stop supporting it, we'll be left to rely on software like
Outlook which has terrible e-mail encryption support as well as awful
plug-ins or outdated software like Claws Mail. We can always end up
using Mail in Windows 10 which is good if you demand absolutely
nothing out of an e-mail client.

- --
Slimer
EFF & OpenMedia member / IFAW & PETA supporter
Matthew 7:12: "In everything, therefore, treat people the same way you
want them to treat you, for this is the Law and the Prophets."
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mechanic wrote on 12/9/2015 7:46 AM:
On Tue, 8 Dec 2015 13:52:01 -0500, Ed Mullen wrote:

You could install something like Mozilla Thunderbird and use that.

Seriously lacking in support as time goes on. Claws mail might do if
you like that kind of client.


Not likely. Mozilla will probably spin it off like they did SeaMkonkey
into a Mozilla project. SM gets regular updates and there's no reason
to think the same won't be true of TB.

--
Ed Mullen
http://edmullen.net/
When you open a new bag of cotton balls, are you supposed to throw the
top one away?

Slimer wrote on 12/9/2015 9:48 AM:
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On 2015-12-09 8:10 AM, Andy Burns wrote:
Slimer wrote:

Andy Burns wrote:

mechanic wrote:

Ed Mullen wrote:

You could install something like Mozilla Thunderbird and
use that.

Seriously lacking in support as time goes on.

It would have been better if they'd stopped "supporting" it
earlier, so people didn't need to disable so much of the later
fiddling with it.

I'm curious as to which support Thunderbird is lacking in as time
goes on. For me, it works well.

I'm not complaining, it works fine, it's better for being left
alone.

Time will tell what happens now Mozilla want to actively stop
supporting it, rather than passively stop ...

If they stop supporting it, we'll be left to rely on software like
Outlook which has terrible e-mail encryption support as well as awful
plug-ins or outdated software like Claws Mail. We can always end up
using Mail in Windows 10 which is good if you demand absolutely
nothing out of an e-mail client.


As I said up-thread, a spin-off doesn't mean end of support. SeaMonkey
was spun off in 2005 as a Mozilla Project and is still being actively
updated.

Mozilla still provides infrastructure support for the project and likely
would do the same for Thunderbird.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SeaMonkey

--
Ed Mullen
http://edmullen.net/
When you open a new bag of cotton balls, are you supposed to throw the
top one away?

On 12/9/15 8:03 AM, Ed Mullen wrote:
mechanic wrote on 12/9/2015 7:46 AM:
On Tue, 8 Dec 2015 13:52:01 -0500, Ed Mullen wrote:

You could install something like Mozilla Thunderbird and use that.

Seriously lacking in support as time goes on. Claws mail might do if
you like that kind of client.


Not likely. Mozilla will probably spin it off like they did SeaMkonkey
into a Mozilla project. SM gets regular updates and there's no reason
to think the same won't be true of TB.

Mozilla is apparently looking for a new home for Thunderbird.

And FWIW, Softmaker Office Professional now includes their version of
Thunderbird. Not sure what it looks like there. But I hope they've
fixed a lot of problems with the HTML editor.


--
Ken
Mac OS X 10.8.5
Firefox 42.0
Thunderbird 38.0.1
"My brain is like lightning, a quick flash
and it's gone!"