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registry cleaner and back up
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... I`ve just looked at ccleaner , can`t see anything about disassociating file extensions .( Use it all the time ) On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 07:08:01 -0800, Ron Ruys Ron wrote: CCleaner was used on my recently rebuilt hard drive and disassociatd all file extensions on my computer. No programs worked anymore because exe did not work any more so another complete rebuild had to be done. I will not use it again. I note the use of the passive tense: "CCleaner was used...". Call me cynical, but it makes me wonder if Ron used it himself and, as a result, found associations lost - or whether someone else did some work on his machine for him and pointed the finger at CCleaner when things went belly-up. |
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CCleaner Registry Cleaner
I note the use of the passive tense: "CCleaner was used...". Call me
cynical, but it makes me wonder if Ron used it himself and, as a result, found associations lost - or whether someone else did some work on his machine for him and pointed the finger at CCleaner when things went belly-up. Perceptive. I'm a regular user of CCleaner and have not encountered any such problems. Note the use of the active voice -- not the passive voice. DSH "Olórin" wrote in message ... wrote in message ... I`ve just looked at ccleaner , can`t see anything about disassociating file extensions .( Use it all the time ) On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 07:08:01 -0800, Ron Ruys Ron wrote: CCleaner was used on my recently rebuilt hard drive and disassociatd all file extensions on my computer. No programs worked anymore because exe did not work any more so another complete rebuild had to be done. I will not use it again. I note the use of the passive tense: "CCleaner was used...". Call me cynical, but it makes me wonder if Ron used it himself and, as a result, found associations lost - or whether someone else did some work on his machine for him and pointed the finger at CCleaner when things went belly-up. |
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registry cleaner and back up
Olórin wrote:
wrote in message ... I`ve just looked at ccleaner , can`t see anything about disassociating file extensions .( Use it all the time ) On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 07:08:01 -0800, Ron Ruys Ron wrote: CCleaner was used on my recently rebuilt hard drive and disassociatd all file extensions on my computer. No programs worked anymore because exe did not work any more so another complete rebuild had to be done. I will not use it again. I note the use of the passive tense: "CCleaner was used...". Call me cynical, but it makes me wonder if Ron used it himself and, as a result, found associations lost - or whether someone else did some work on his machine for him and pointed the finger at CCleaner when things went belly-up. Quite possibly the case. It's like when a politician says, "Mistakes were made." :-) |
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CCleaner Registry Cleaner
"D. Spencer Hines" wrote in message ... I note the use of the passive tense: "CCleaner was used...". Call me cynical, but it makes me wonder if Ron used it himself and, as a result, found associations lost - or whether someone else did some work on his machine for him and pointed the finger at CCleaner when things went belly-up. Perceptive. I'm a regular user of CCleaner and have not encountered any such problems. Note the use of the active voice -- not the passive voice. DSH Whoops, is it "voice"? (Hits the Web.) Ook. I hate getting that sort of thing wrong! |
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CCleaner Registry Cleaner
You were right on the substance.
I don't think he knows what he's talking about. DSH "Olórin" wrote in message ... "D. Spencer Hines" wrote in message ... I note the use of the passive tense: "CCleaner was used...". Call me cynical, but it makes me wonder if Ron used it himself and, as a result, found associations lost - or whether someone else did some work on his machine for him and pointed the finger at CCleaner when things went belly-up. Perceptive. I'm a regular user of CCleaner and have not encountered any such problems. Note the use of the active voice -- not the passive voice. DSH Whoops, is it "voice"? (Hits the Web.) Ook. I hate getting that sort of thing wrong! |
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registry cleaner and back up
Why did I purchase Registry Cleaner last week and tonight when I typed in
www.windows.com I was hit with Registry Smart that found over 1000 errors on my computer after Registry Cleaner had found errors and fixes them after I paid them the $39.95 fee last week? Now Registry Smart wants me to pay them to correct these other 1000 errors. Is all of this a scam? "D. Spencer Hines" wrote: Nonsense... CCleaner is safe as a Registry Cleaner.... And improves performance. DSH "Bruce Chambers" wrote in message ... Why do you think you'd ever need to clean your registry? What specific *problems* are you actually experiencing (not some program's bogus listing of imaginary problems) that you think can be fixed by using a registry cleaner? If you do have a problem that is rooted in the registry, it would be far better to simply edit (after backing up, of course) only the specific key(s) and/or value(s) that are causing the problem. After all, why use a chainsaw when a scalpel will do the job? Additionally, the manually changing of one or two registry entries is far less likely to have the dire consequences of allowing an automated product to make multiple changes simultaneously. The only thing needed to safely clean your registry is knowledge and Regedit.exe. The registry contains all of the operating system's "knowledge" of the computer's hardware devices, installed software, the location of the device drivers, and the computer's configuration. A misstep in the registry can have severe consequences. One should not even turning loose a poorly understood automated "cleaner," unless he is fully confident that he knows *exactly* what is going to happen as a result of each and every change. Having repeatedly seen the results of inexperienced people using automated registry "cleaners," I can only advise all but the most experienced computer technicians (and/or hobbyists) to avoid them all. Experience has shown me that such tools simply are not safe in the hands of the inexperienced user. If you lack the knowledge and experience to maintain your registry by yourself, then you also lack the knowledge and experience to safely configure and use any automated registry cleaner, no matter how safe they claim to be. More importantly, no one has ever demonstrated that the use of an automated registry cleaner, particularly by an untrained, inexperienced computer user, does any real good, whatsoever. There's certainly been no empirical evidence offered to demonstrate that the use of such products to "clean" WinXP's registry improves a computer's performance or stability. Given the potential for harm, it's just not worth the risk. Granted, most registry "cleaners" won't cause problems each and every time they're used, but the potential for harm is always there. And, since no registry "cleaner" has ever been demonstrated to do any good (think of them like treating the flu with chicken soup - there's no real medicinal value, but it sometimes provides a warming placebo effect), I always tell people that the risks far out-weigh the non-existent benefits. I will concede that a good registry *scanning* tool, in the hands of an experienced and knowledgeable technician or hobbyist can be a useful time-saving diagnostic tool, as long as it's not allowed to make any changes automatically. But I really don't think that there are any registry cleaners that are truly safe for the general public to use. Experience has proven just the opposite: such tools simply are not safe in the hands of the inexperienced user. |
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Registry Cleaner
CCleaner is very helpful in this respect.
DSH "Edward W. Thompson" wrote in message ... "Linda W" Linda wrote in message ... Why did I purchase Registry Cleaner last week and tonight when I typed in www.windows.com I was hit with Registry Smart that found over 1000 errors on my computer after Registry Cleaner had found errors and fixes them after I paid them the $39.95 fee last week? Now Registry Smart wants me to pay them to correct these other 1000 errors. Is all of this a scam? snip Yes, it is a scam. Firstly and most importantly, if you have 'errors' in your Registry you will have problems running the OS and/or program. If you do have these problems Registry Cleaners will not help. What these cleaners term as errors are not errors they are simply entries in the Registry that the 'Cleaners' determine are redundant. Contrary to what many may tell you, these redundant entries do absolutely no harm and have no effect on the operation of the OS or programs. They may inflate the size of the Registry but as disk space is the least of problems with modern machines, this is of no consequence. Further, occasionally Registry Cleaners will remove or advise removal of Registry entries that are required for the running of installed programs and if acted upon will require you to reinstall the program. There are many who will tell you that Registry Cleaners will/may damage the OS. So far no one has yet given any evidence of this other than hearsay but the overall advice of these programs have the potential of doing harm without doing any good is valid. |
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registry cleaner and back up
Linda W wrote:
Why did I purchase Registry Cleaner last week and tonight when I typed in www.windows.com I was hit with Registry Smart that found over 1000 errors on my computer after Registry Cleaner had found errors and fixes them after I paid them the $39.95 fee last week? Now Registry Smart wants me to pay them to correct these other 1000 errors. Is all of this a scam? Yes, registry cleaners are all a scam. -- Bruce Chambers Help us help you: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand Russell The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has killed a great many philosophers. ~ Denis Diderot |
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Registry Cleaner
D. Spencer Hines wrote:
CCleaner is very helpful in this respect. No, it is not. It''s not better than any of the other snake oil scams available. -- Bruce Chambers Help us help you: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand Russell The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has killed a great many philosophers. ~ Denis Diderot |
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registry cleaner and back up
On Sun, 23 Dec 2007 20:11:00 -0800, Linda W Linda
wrote: Why did I purchase Registry Cleaner last week and tonight when I typed in www.windows.com I was hit with Registry Smart that found over 1000 errors on my computer after Registry Cleaner had found errors and fixes them after I paid them the $39.95 fee last week? Now Registry Smart wants me to pay them to correct these other 1000 errors. Is all of this a scam? All registry cleaners are scams at best. At worst, they can completely hose your system. I strongly suggest you avoid using any registry cleaning program. They are *all* snake oil. Cleaning of the registry isn't needed and is dangerous. Leave the registry alone and don't use any registry cleaner. Despite what many people think, and what vendors of registry cleaning software try to convince you of, having unused registry entries doesn't really hurt you. The risk of a serious problem caused by a registry cleaner erroneously removing an entry you need is far greater than any potential benefit it may have. -- Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP Windows - Shell/User Please Reply to the Newsgroup |
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Registry Cleaner
Nonsense.
Chambers is just blustering and burbling. CCleaner works beautifully as a Registry Cleaner. http://www.ccleaner.com/ Try it... DSH "Bruce Chambers" wrote in message ... D. Spencer Hines wrote: CCleaner is very helpful in this respect. No, it is not. It''s [sic] not better than any of the other snake oil scams available. -- Bruce Chambers |
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Registry Cleaner
D. Spencer Hines wrote:
Nonsense. Chambers is just blustering and burbling. CCleaner works beautifully as a Registry Cleaner. *NO* registry cleaner works "beautifully," as *NONE* of them do anything in the least bit useful or beneficial. And CCLeaner, in particular, products nothing but false positives, identifying orphaned entries where none exist. I've tested it. -- Bruce Chambers Help us help you: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand Russell The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has killed a great many philosophers. ~ Denis Diderot |
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Registry Cleaner
Evidence?
D. Spencer Hines wrote: CCleaner is very helpful in this respect. DSH "Edward W. Thompson" wrote in message ... "Linda W" Linda wrote in message ... Why did I purchase Registry Cleaner last week and tonight when I typed in www.windows.com I was hit with Registry Smart that found over 1000 errors on my computer after Registry Cleaner had found errors and fixes them after I paid them the $39.95 fee last week? Now Registry Smart wants me to pay them to correct these other 1000 errors. Is all of this a scam? snip Yes, it is a scam. Firstly and most importantly, if you have 'errors' in your Registry you will have problems running the OS and/or program. If you do have these problems Registry Cleaners will not help. What these cleaners term as errors are not errors they are simply entries in the Registry that the 'Cleaners' determine are redundant. Contrary to what many may tell you, these redundant entries do absolutely no harm and have no effect on the operation of the OS or programs. They may inflate the size of the Registry but as disk space is the least of problems with modern machines, this is of no consequence. Further, occasionally Registry Cleaners will remove or advise removal of Registry entries that are required for the running of installed programs and if acted upon will require you to reinstall the program. There are many who will tell you that Registry Cleaners will/may damage the OS. So far no one has yet given any evidence of this other than hearsay but the overall advice of these programs have the potential of doing harm without doing any good is valid. |
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