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[OT] How to use a 'news:' URL.
On 18 Nov 2018 19:14:11 GMT, Frank Slootweg wrote:
[This response is not about backing up APKs, but about backup/syncing in general:] Frank, You don't remember your own words, Frank. You complained that I *ignored* your "solution", remember. That's the whole point, Frank! a. It had nothing to do with the APK backup, so it wasn't a solution, and, b. It doesn't work anyway. http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=4423528syncme01.jpg http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=8394922syncme02.jpg |
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[OT] How to use a 'news:' URL.
On 18 Nov 2018 19:14:11 GMT, Frank Slootweg wrote:
[This response is not about backing up APKs, but about backup/syncing in general:] Frank, You don't remember your own words, Frank. You complained that I *ignored* your "solution", remember. And yet, you never once provided a solution. That's the whole point, Frank! a. What you say I "ignored" had absolutely nothing to do with the APK backup, so it wasn't a solution, and, b. It doesn't work anyway. http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=4423528syncme01.jpg http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=8394922syncme02.jpg |
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[OT] How to use a 'news:' URL.
arlen michael holder wrote:
On 18 Nov 2018 19:14:11 GMT, Frank Slootweg wrote: [This response is not about backing up APKs, but about backup/syncing in general:] Frank, You don't remember your own words, Frank. Yes, I do. You OTOH don't know/remember left from right. You complained that I *ignored* your "solution", remember. Yes, but that was for a *different* issue (than *both* APK backup *and* general backup). If you think otherwise, then *prove* it with a direct quote (and URL of that source). That's the whole point, Frank! a. It had nothing to do with the APK backup, so it wasn't a solution, and, Of course it wasn't. I *said* so, didn't I!? b. It doesn't work anyway. http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=4423528syncme01.jpg http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=8394922syncme02.jpg It works fine for me, but then I'm severely hindered by actual expertise, experience, intelligence, etc., not to mention knowing how to do research and troubleshoot. I think your screenshots give clues as to what may be causing your problems. But I'm afraid you'll have to figure it out for yourself. You no longer - if you ever did - deserve any further help from me, or anybody for that matter. Have fun. EOD. |
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[OT] How to use a 'news:' URL
Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 17/11/2018 22.14, Frank Slootweg wrote: [...] ... Because it's a news URL, there's no need to search for it, because your newsreader should be able to show it to you (assuming it's not expired from your news server). Figure that, a newsreader actually showing news articles! What *will* they think of next!? A webbrowser showing webpages!? Like for a web ('http:') URL, you don't search for it, you just 'execute' it. Same thing with a news URL. Ok, this is interesting to me. How do I tell my news reader, Thunderbird, to find a message by knowing the URL? Because my Thunderbird can only search (quick filter button) by "sender", "recipient", or "subject". The body is not downloaded, so it can not actually search there, it finds nothing. The button for "body" is there, but does not work. As nospam wrote, clicking on the news URL should work. Note 'should'. I tried it yesterday and I can't get it to work. I've set up TB's 'System Integration', (Windows) 'Internet Options' (Programs (Set programs)) and 'Associate a file type or protocol with a program', but it doesn't work. This used to work out-of-the-box with Outlook Express (when putting the news URL in *Internet Explorer*'s URL box). The specific setting which *should* (IMO) do the trick, but doesn't work for me is this (English Windows 8.1 version): Control Panel - Programs - Default Programs - Associate a file type or protocol with a program This gives a very long list, first for all the 'Extensions' and at the end for all the 'Protocols'. I the 'Protocols' list, there should be an entry: Name Description Current Default ---- --------------------- --------------- NEWS Thunderbird (News) URL Thunderbird That implies that a news URL should be handled by Thunderbird, but when I click on a news URL *in* TB, TB does not handle it, let alone that a news URL *outside* TB will be handled by TB. If by any chance, you do not get the above entry in the 'Protocols' list, then check this: Thunderbird - Tools - Options - 'Advanced' tab - System Integration - Check Now... The 'System Integration' popup should say: "Use Thunderbird as the default client for: V Email V Newsgroups" If you do not get this list, let me know. Sorry to be of so little help. As I said, it used to work for OE (+IE). If anyone know how to get this to work for Thunderbird, please let us know. [...] In your defense, but not an excuse for dodging my question: You're not the only one who doesn't know how handle a news URL or/and how to look up an article with their newsreader, given a news URL. Well, I go to Edit/Find/search messages, select "message-ID", then enter the MID, and tick "run search on server" (an option I did not see years before), then it does the search fast enough. Great! Thanks! I think I looked for something like that, but apparently not good enough. So that's at least a workaround. It's still a search instead of a direct lookup, but it's better than nothing. Now we 'only' need someone who can show us how to teach TB to do a direct lookup of a news URL. |
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[OT] How to use a 'news:' URL
In article , Frank Slootweg
wrote: As nospam wrote, clicking on the news URL should work. Note 'should'. I tried it yesterday and I can't get it to work. I've set up TB's 'System Integration', (Windows) 'Internet Options' (Programs (Set programs)) and 'Associate a file type or protocol with a program', but it doesn't work. that's because thunderbird is a buggy mess. Now we 'only' need someone who can show us how to teach TB to do a direct lookup of a news URL. it's open source. feel free to fix it (along with its numerous other problems). |
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[OT] How to use a 'news:' URL
On 19/11/2018 13.13, Frank Slootweg wrote:
Carlos E.R. wrote: On 17/11/2018 22.14, Frank Slootweg wrote: [...] ... Because it's a news URL, there's no need to search for it, because your newsreader should be able to show it to you (assuming it's not expired from your news server). Figure that, a newsreader actually showing news articles! What *will* they think of next!? A webbrowser showing webpages!? Like for a web ('http:') URL, you don't search for it, you just 'execute' it. Same thing with a news URL. Ok, this is interesting to me. How do I tell my news reader, Thunderbird, to find a message by knowing the URL? Because my Thunderbird can only search (quick filter button) by "sender", "recipient", or "subject". The body is not downloaded, so it can not actually search there, it finds nothing. The button for "body" is there, but does not work. As nospam wrote, clicking on the news URL should work. It doesn't here. Right click offers to open in browser, then a dialog ask to say what application to open it with (choose other application). And it does not suggest any by default, just the entire disk tree. Note 'should'. I tried it yesterday and I can't get it to work. I've set up TB's 'System Integration', (Windows) 'Internet Options' (Programs (Set programs)) and 'Associate a file type or protocol with a program', but it doesn't work. This used to work out-of-the-box with Outlook Express (when putting the news URL in *Internet Explorer*'s URL box). The specific setting which *should* (IMO) do the trick, but doesn't work for me is this (English Windows 8.1 version): Control Panel - Programs - Default Programs - Associate a file type or protocol with a program This gives a very long list, first for all the 'Extensions' and at the end for all the 'Protocols'. I the 'Protocols' list, there should be an entry: Name Description Current Default ---- --------------------- --------------- NEWS Thunderbird (News) URL Thunderbird That implies that a news URL should be handled by Thunderbird, but when I click on a news URL *in* TB, TB does not handle it, let alone that a news URL *outside* TB will be handled by TB. If by any chance, you do not get the above entry in the 'Protocols' list, then check this: Thunderbird - Tools - Options - 'Advanced' tab - System Integration - Check Now... The 'System Integration' popup should say: "Use Thunderbird as the default client for: V Email V Newsgroups" If you do not get this list, let me know. Sorry to be of so little help. As I said, it used to work for OE (+IE). If anyone know how to get this to work for Thunderbird, please let us know. [...] Well, I forced "thunderbird", and did nothing (Linux here, but should not matter much). In your defense, but not an excuse for dodging my question: You're not the only one who doesn't know how handle a news URL or/and how to look up an article with their newsreader, given a news URL. Well, I go to Edit/Find/search messages, select "message-ID", then enter the MID, and tick "run search on server" (an option I did not see years before), then it does the search fast enough. Great! Thanks! I think I looked for something like that, but apparently not good enough. So that's at least a workaround. It's still a search instead of a direct lookup, but it's better than nothing. Now we 'only' need someone who can show us how to teach TB to do a direct lookup of a news URL. I think I tried on this or another computer some weeks back, and it launched firefox, which did nothing or complained, I don't remember for sure. -- Cheers, Carlos. |
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[OT] How to use a 'news:' URL
In article , Carlos E.R.
wrote: As nospam wrote, clicking on the news URL should work. It doesn't here. Right click offers to open in browser, then a dialog ask to say what application to open it with (choose other application). And it does not suggest any by default, just the entire disk tree. normal click, not contextual click, and the problem appears to be thunderbird. |
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[OT] How to use a 'news:' URL
nospam
Mon, 19 Nov 2018 15:13:33 GMT in alt.comp.freeware, wrote: In article , Carlos E.R. wrote: As nospam wrote, clicking on the news URL should work. It doesn't here. Right click offers to open in browser, then a dialog ask to say what application to open it with (choose other application). And it does not suggest any by default, just the entire disk tree. normal click, not contextual click, and the problem appears to be thunderbird. Aye. It's been a known issue with thunderchicken for years. Never fixed, amongst other things. Xnews has it's own share of.. unique gotchas, but, as long as the server actually has the article, it'll pull it up via clicking the news url link. Despite Xnews data files not being officially documented, they're easy to reverse engineer and I like that. It also looks alot like NewsXpress, and, I used that for years prior.. so... -- To prevent yourself from being a victim of cyber stalking, it's highly recommended you visit he https://tekrider.net/pages/david-brooks-stalker.php ================================================== = Anything on the ground is a cat toy. Anything not there yet, will be. |
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[OT] How to use a 'news:' URL
On 19/11/2018 16.13, nospam wrote:
In article , Carlos E.R. wrote: As nospam wrote, clicking on the news URL should work. It doesn't here. Right click offers to open in browser, then a dialog ask to say what application to open it with (choose other application). And it does not suggest any by default, just the entire disk tree. normal click, not contextual click, and the problem appears to be thunderbird. Yes, but the point is that not every NNTP client supports locating "news://..." URLS. And it is demonstrated. -- Cheers, Carlos. |
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Let's attempt Frank Slootweg's freeware solution for backing upAndroid to Windows
On 17/11/2018 21.34, nospam wrote:
In article , Alek wrote: You apparently missed - or don't remember - my recent (October 22) response to you about what I use to backup my Android devices, so here's the news URL of my post. And yes, it ticks all your boxes. Have fun. news Not sure how to use this link. click on it, and it will show the post. No, it won't. -- Cheers, Carlos. |
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Let's attempt Frank Slootweg's freeware solution for backing upAndroid to Windows
On 17/11/2018 21.29, Alek wrote:
Frank Slootweg wrote on 11/17/2018 9:48 AM: You apparently missed - or don't remember - my recent (October 22) response to you about what I use to backup my Android devices, so here's the news URL of my post. And yes, it ticks all your boxes. Have fun. news Not sure how to use this link. Go to Edit/Find/search messages, select "message-ID", then enter the MID, and tick "run search on server" (an option I did not see years before), then it does the search fast enough (my server is local). -- Cheers, Carlos. |
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Let's attempt Frank Slootweg's freeware solution for backingup Android to Windows
Alek wrote:
Frank Slootweg wrote on 11/17/2018 9:48 AM: You apparently missed - or don't remember - my recent (October 22) response to you about what I use to backup my Android devices, so here's the news URL of my post. And yes, it ticks all your boxes. Have fun. news Not sure how to use this link. news Adjust, leave delimiters on the outside. Go to this website, and paste the modified string here. http://al.howardknight.net/ This avoids details about your newsreader, to be doing it on the web. Paul |
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Let's attempt Frank Slootweg's freeware solution for backingup Android to Windows
Alek wrote:
Frank Slootweg wrote on 11/17/2018 9:48 AM: You apparently missed - or don't remember - my recent (October 22) response to you about what I use to backup my Android devices, so here's the news URL of my post. And yes, it ticks all your boxes. Have fun. news Not sure how to use this link. Another way to do it: Enter this URL in Seamonkey browser (which is a suite and includes a news reader). news://news.aioe.org:119/pql56t.8k8....individual.net That syntax would work in Thunderbird... if we could figure out a way to enter a URL :-) I haven't figured out where that is hiding on TBird. Maybe you could call TBird from the command line and do it or something. Paul |
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Let's attempt Frank Slootweg's freeware solution for backing up Android to Windows
In article , Carlos E.R.
wrote: news Not sure how to use this link. click on it, and it will show the post. No, it won't. yes it does. the problem is your newsreader. replace it and problem solved. |
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[OT] How to use a 'news:' URL
In article , Carlos E.R.
wrote: As nospam wrote, clicking on the news URL should work. It doesn't here. Right click offers to open in browser, then a dialog ask to say what application to open it with (choose other application). And it does not suggest any by default, just the entire disk tree. normal click, not contextual click, and the problem appears to be thunderbird. Yes, but the point is that not every NNTP client supports locating "news://..." URLS. And it is demonstrated. that just means you're using a broken news client. replace it with a better one. |
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