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reverse image search utility, for 7/10?
Just what it says, I'm trying to find something portable and free that
would do a search of my hard drive the way Google does, where an input image is given and then the search finds the same or similar images. Thanks! |
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reverse image search utility, for 7/10?
On 12/10/18 4:44 AM, JBI wrote:
Just what it says, I'm trying to find something portable and free that would do a search of my hard drive the way Google does, where an input image is given and then the search finds the same or similar images. Thanks! Now that would be cool. I know I have duplicates under different names. You say "or similar", I'd just like to find a binary duplicate. Al |
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reverse image search utility, for 7/10?
On 12/10/18 7:53 AM, Big Al wrote:
On 12/10/18 4:44 AM, JBI wrote: Just what it says, I'm trying to find something portable and free that would do a search of my hard drive the way Google does, where an input image is given and then the search finds the same or similar images. Thanks! Now that would be cool.Â*Â* I know I have duplicates under different names. You say "or similar", I'd just like to find a binary duplicate. Al Actually, I believe I can answer that for a change. During my search, I tried out VisiPics and it does just what you describe. Brought out many duplicates. It actually does seem to somewhat work for what I'm looking for, but I was hoping for something a bit more efficient. Right now, I am trying out another program called Find.Same.Images.OK. It is currently scanning the hard drive and will wait and see how it goes. |
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reverse image search utility, for 7/10?
On 10/12/2018 09:44, JBI wrote:
Just what it says, I'm trying to find something portable and free that would do a search of my hard drive the way Google does, where an input image is given and then the search finds the same or similar images. Thanks! You have heard of Google but you don't seem to know how to use it. Is this so? https://www.google.com/search?q=duplicate+images+finder&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b It is still free so please use it before asking stupid questions here. We don't support Linux junkies on Windows newsgroups. they are superior to all of us here but they still like to ask us before using their brains to do the research for themselves. Path: aioe.org!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: JBI Newsgroups: alt.windows7.general Subject: reverse image search utility, for 7/10? Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2018 04:44:33 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 4 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2018 09:44:33 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: reader01.eternal-september.org; posting-host="bdb0bd2fd00bcbec814fc72bc7484de3"; logging-data="11466"; "; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/X5GgvxEHuwx/zVXPkLqSW" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.2.1 Cancel-Lock: sha1:+V696r2x98nvnXE5AdceRl7jW2c= Content-Language: en-US X-Mozilla-News-Host: news://news.eternal-september.org:119 Xref: aioe.org alt.windows7.general:38000 -- With over 950 million devices now running Windows 10, customer satisfaction is higher than any previous version of windows. |
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"JBI" wrote | Right now, I | am trying out another program called Find.Same.Images.OK. It is | currently scanning the hard drive and will wait and see how it goes. Someone else will probably have better info than I do, but I've seen people in the photo group talk about what you want. My impression is that most of them use "asset management" software and that the software can find similar photos. Asset management refers to the trend, started by Picasa, I think, of assuming that people don't really know how to use the file system. So Picasa would find all images and make them available without needing to use Windows Explorer. (Turns out they were right. Most people don't know how to use a file system like Exporer. Picasa was a big hit.) My impression is that this asset management software has matured and can do things like finding EXIF data, similar images, etc. I'm sorry I can't give you a link, but that's all I know. If someone doesn't answer here then try the photo group. |
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On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 07:53:44 -0500, Big Al wrote:
On 12/10/18 4:44 AM, JBI wrote: Just what it says, I'm trying to find something portable and free that would do a search of my hard drive the way Google does, where an input image is given and then the search finds the same or similar images. Thanks! Now that would be cool. I know I have duplicates under different names. You say "or similar", I'd just like to find a binary duplicate. Sorry, although there probably are such programs available, I have no experience with any and can't name one. I just wanted to point out that running such a program--searching an entire drive to look for an exact match--would have to be very time-consuming. |
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In message , Big Al
writes: On 12/10/18 4:44 AM, JBI wrote: Just what it says, I'm trying to find something portable and free that would do a search of my hard drive the way Google does, where an input image is given and then the search finds the same or similar images. Thanks! Now that would be cool. I know I have duplicates under different names. You say "or similar", I'd just like to find a binary duplicate. Al I've found "Duplicate Image Finder", by Runningman software, works well: you can set the percentage similarity you wish, including 100%. However, this seems to have disappeared. I await with interest the results that another poster in this thread reports from several other utilities that person has found. For binary duplicates, _if_ you know one filename, using the "Everything" search utility, with no name specified, highlighting the file, then sorting the result by the size column, will list files of identical size adjacent to the highlighted one, so that their names and locations can be seen, and then compared (if only with "fc /b"). JPG - Visit 255soft.uk if you find petitions unfair (and please *pass it on*, too). -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf This space unintentionally left blank. |
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On 12/10/18 9:25 AM, 😉 Good Guy 😉 wrote:
On 10/12/2018 09:44, JBI wrote: Just what it says, I'm trying to find something portable and free that would do a search of my hard drive the way Google does, where an input image is given and then the search finds the same or similar images. Thanks! You have heard of Google but you don't seem to know how to use it. Is this so? https://www.google.com/search?q=duplicate+images+finder&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b It is still free so please use it before asking stupid questions here. We don't support Linux junkies on Windows newsgroups.Â* they are superior to all of us here but they still like to ask us before using their brains to do the research for themselves. You really do generalize don't you! |
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On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 16:09:08 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
wrote: In message , Big Al writes: On 12/10/18 4:44 AM, JBI wrote: Just what it says, I'm trying to find something portable and free that would do a search of my hard drive the way Google does, where an input image is given and then the search finds the same or similar images. Thanks! Now that would be cool. I know I have duplicates under different names. You say "or similar", I'd just like to find a binary duplicate. Al I've found "Duplicate Image Finder", by Runningman software, works well: you can set the percentage similarity you wish, including 100%. However, this seems to have disappeared. I await with interest the results that another poster in this thread reports from several other utilities that person has found. For binary duplicates, _if_ you know one filename, using the "Everything" search utility, with no name specified, highlighting the file, then sorting the result by the size column, will list files of identical size adjacent to the highlighted one, so that their names and locations can be seen, and then compared (if only with "fc /b"). A very good suggestion. That has to be *much* faster than comparing a file with every other file on the drive, bit by bit. On the other hand, perhaps a good duplicate finding program would begin by doing the same kind of thing. I hadn't thought of that when I posted my earlier message in this thread. |
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reverse image search utility, for 7/10?
On 12/10/18 11:35 AM, Ken Blake wrote:
On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 16:09:08 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote: In message , Big Al writes: On 12/10/18 4:44 AM, JBI wrote: Just what it says, I'm trying to find something portable and free that would do a search of my hard drive the way Google does, where an input image is given and then the search finds the same or similar images. Thanks! Now that would be cool. I know I have duplicates under different names. You say "or similar", I'd just like to find a binary duplicate. Al I've found "Duplicate Image Finder", by Runningman software, works well: you can set the percentage similarity you wish, including 100%. However, this seems to have disappeared. I await with interest the results that another poster in this thread reports from several other utilities that person has found. For binary duplicates, _if_ you know one filename, using the "Everything" search utility, with no name specified, highlighting the file, then sorting the result by the size column, will list files of identical size adjacent to the highlighted one, so that their names and locations can be seen, and then compared (if only with "fc /b"). A very good suggestion. That has to be *much* faster than comparing a file with every other file on the drive, bit by bit. On the other hand, perhaps a good duplicate finding program would begin by doing the same kind of thing. I hadn't thought of that when I posted my earlier message in this thread. And now that you say this, I do remember a 'find dupes' type of program that had adjustments you could set as to how it find dupes. I think size was one, and turn off name was another. That might have worked if I remembered the program grin. Al |
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In message , Big Al
writes: On 12/10/18 11:35 AM, Ken Blake wrote: On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 16:09:08 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote: [] For binary duplicates, _if_ you know one filename, using the "Everything" search utility, with no name specified, highlighting the file, then sorting the result by the size column, will list files of identical size adjacent to the highlighted one, so that their names and locations can be seen, and then compared (if only with "fc /b"). A very good suggestion. That has to be *much* faster than comparing a file with every other file on the drive, bit by bit. Well, it's worth remembering that identical files tend to have identical sizes (-:! [Though it's possible for _image_ files to have identical _image_ data and _not_ be of identical size - different comment data, for example. Though the size would usually be _similar_ enough that the above "Everything" search might still have them _nearby_.] On the other hand, perhaps a good duplicate finding program would begin by doing the same kind of thing. I hadn't thought of that when I posted my earlier message in this thread. Specifically on images, Runningman's duplicate image finder did also allow you to compare images of different sizes (number of pixels) and formats (e. g. GIF/JPEG), and I think even 90 degree rotations. And now that you say this, I do remember a 'find dupes' type of program that had adjustments you could set as to how it find dupes. I think size was one, and turn off name was another. That might have worked if I remembered the program grin. David Taylor's FindDup http://www.satsignal.eu/software/disk.html? That certainly had the option to turn off name, and also ignore 0 size files. (It isn't an image one, though.) Al John Visit 255soft.uk if you find petitions unfair (and please *pass it on*, too). -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf Beauty is in the eye of the beer holder... |
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On 10-12-2018 13:53, Big Al wrote:
On 12/10/18 4:44 AM, JBI wrote: Just what it says, I'm trying to find something portable and free that would do a search of my hard drive the way Google does, where an input image is given and then the search finds the same or similar images. Thanks! Now that would be cool. I know I have duplicates under different names. You say "or similar", I'd just like to find a binary duplicate. Al Google for doublekiller, it works quite well for me. |
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Ken Blake wrote:
On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 16:09:08 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote: In message , Big Al writes: On 12/10/18 4:44 AM, JBI wrote: Just what it says, I'm trying to find something portable and free that would do a search of my hard drive the way Google does, where an input image is given and then the search finds the same or similar images. Thanks! Now that would be cool. I know I have duplicates under different names. You say "or similar", I'd just like to find a binary duplicate. Al I've found "Duplicate Image Finder", by Runningman software, works well: you can set the percentage similarity you wish, including 100%. However, this seems to have disappeared. I await with interest the results that another poster in this thread reports from several other utilities that person has found. For binary duplicates, _if_ you know one filename, using the "Everything" search utility, with no name specified, highlighting the file, then sorting the result by the size column, will list files of identical size adjacent to the highlighted one, so that their names and locations can be seen, and then compared (if only with "fc /b"). A very good suggestion. That has to be *much* faster than comparing a file with every other file on the drive, bit by bit. On the other hand, perhaps a good duplicate finding program would begin by doing the same kind of thing. I hadn't thought of that when I posted my earlier message in this thread. They do make some pretty strange software. http://www.mindgems.com/products/VS-...SDIF-About.htm This is similar to what the image upload Google finder was *supposed* to do. It pretends to compute a "percentage of similarity" and notice it's not doing autocorrelation. It almost seems like a crude classifier. http://www.mindgems.com/products/VS-...tae_images.png When I tested it, the Google one was terrible. And it's a "hard" problem, so I'm not faulting them for this. No matter what approach you use, it simply won't do a good job on all possible inputs. ******* "Duplicate files", where the MD5 of the files must be exact, to detect a duplicate, that's an O(n) problem. The detecting similar images can be O(n) or O(n^2), depending on how you attempt to do it. I can't find it now, but I did have a heuristic program that computes a signature for each photo, and you compare "how many bits are different" between two photo signatures, to tell whether they're similar. And that one was O(n). It could easily produce false positives, and isn't intended for the "flower" problem above. You'll notice the "flower" example is much more tolerant (whatever the method is). Paul |
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Paul wrote:
Ken Blake wrote: On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 16:09:08 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote: In message , Big Al writes: On 12/10/18 4:44 AM, JBI wrote: Just what it says, I'm trying to find something portable and free that would do a search of my hard drive the way Google does, where an input image is given and then the search finds the same or similar images. Thanks! Now that would be cool. I know I have duplicates under different names. You say "or similar", I'd just like to find a binary duplicate. Al I've found "Duplicate Image Finder", by Runningman software, works well: you can set the percentage similarity you wish, including 100%. However, this seems to have disappeared. I await with interest the results that another poster in this thread reports from several other utilities that person has found. For binary duplicates, _if_ you know one filename, using the "Everything" search utility, with no name specified, highlighting the file, then sorting the result by the size column, will list files of identical size adjacent to the highlighted one, so that their names and locations can be seen, and then compared (if only with "fc /b"). A very good suggestion. That has to be *much* faster than comparing a file with every other file on the drive, bit by bit. On the other hand, perhaps a good duplicate finding program would begin by doing the same kind of thing. I hadn't thought of that when I posted my earlier message in this thread. One of the methods, is called the Haar algorithm. O(n). It's possible that's the code I tried out. https://photo.stackexchange.com/ques...te-image-files "using a special technique (Haar algorithm) that makes it possible to compare images by comparing this calculated signature. The less numerical difference there is between any two image signatures, the more they resemble each other." So if two image signatures are like this, they're "exact", which means they're kinda close, and not exact in the way a banker or accountant would consider them. 110110 110110 If the images differ in one bit, they're a less exact match 111110 110110 less exact You set the "number of bits difference" as a measure of how far off an image can be, before you select it for human appraisal. And it's O(n) because you only compute the "110110" thing once, then do a quick O(n^2) when comparing the six bit values to one another. The program I had, might have produced a 32 bit wide number or so. The six bits above is just to demonstrate how it works. The program I had, said it was "tuned" for small pictures. It was working at 1024x768. If you fed it 1280x1024, it would scale the image first, before the computation. If you fed in a 4000x3000 picture, the signature then would not be as accurate perhaps. Lots of details would be missing because of the tuning. Paul |
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On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 09:23:34 -0500, JBI wrote:
On 12/10/18 7:53 AM, Big Al wrote: On 12/10/18 4:44 AM, JBI wrote: Just what it says, I'm trying to find something portable and free that would do a search of my hard drive the way Google does, where an input image is given and then the search finds the same or similar images. Thanks! Now that would be cool.** I know I have duplicates under different names. You say "or similar", I'd just like to find a binary duplicate. Al Actually, I believe I can answer that for a change. During my search, I tried out VisiPics Which has a Wiki at http://www.visipics.info/index.php?title=Main_Page and it does just what you describe. Brought out many duplicates. It actually does seem to somewhat work for what I'm looking for, but I was hoping for something a bit more efficient. Right now, I am trying out another program called Find.Same.Images.OK. From these guys: (or this guy?) http://www.softwareok.com his download page is at: http://www.softwareok.com/?Download and has loads of goodies. The direct linky to the recent version of FSIOK is at: http://www.softwareok.com/?Download=Find.Same.Images.OK It is currently scanning the hard drive and will wait and see how it goes. It is *easy* to provide linkies to programs you recommend to save us from having to search for them. True, it costs *you* a search but it saves us from doing hundreds, maybe thousands of them. And it's polite. Mand. |
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