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If I have to do a complete install, would it be better to get a bigger drive, or a new computer?
My computer's tower has no front USB ports, so what I do is run a "USB
extension cord" from its rear to the front of my desk where I have it attached. Quick, easy, and very inexpensive. And (except for keyboard and mouse, which are permanently connected) I never need more than one USB port at a time. I'm using laptops any more due to having to be in a power wheelchair; - I shelfed the desktop unit about 10 years ago! Being a huge fan of industrial grade Velcro, I can attach my hub to the lid same as my external drive, so both are easily transferable. -- Garry Free usenet access at http://www.eternal-september.org Classic VB Users Regroup! comp.lang.basic.visual.misc microsoft.public.vb.general.discussion |
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If I have to do a complete install, would it be better to get a bigger drive, or a new computer?
On Sat, 19 Jan 2019 19:35:13 -0500, GS wrote:
The free upgrade to Win10 offer has expired! Yes, however Microsoft still lets some people who ask them nicely get it for free. Ah.., that explains Paul's comment about installing Win10 over Win7! -- Garry Free usenet access at http://www.eternal-september.org Classic VB Users Regroup! comp.lang.basic.visual.misc microsoft.public.vb.general.discussion |
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If I have to do a complete install, would it be better to get abigger drive, or a new computer?
On 1/20/2019 9:30 AM, GS wrote:
On Sat, 19 Jan 2019 19:35:13 -0500, GS wrote: The free upgrade to Win10 offer has expired! Yes, however Microsoft still lets some people who ask them nicely get it for free. Ah.., that explains Paul's comment about installing Win10 over Win7! I thought it had expired. Just tried it. Installed/activated win7 updated to win10 1809 and it activated without intervention. Being too lazy to reinstall all the programs, I restored a macrium backup of a similar fully configured machine. Activation lost, but online activation brought it back with a click. |
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If I have to do a complete install, would it be better to get a bigger drive, or a new computer?
GS on Sun, 20 Jan 2019 12:26:27 -0500 typed in
alt.windows7.general the following: My computer's tower has no front USB ports, so what I do is run a "USB extension cord" from its rear to the front of my desk where I have it attached. Quick, easy, and very inexpensive. And (except for keyboard and mouse, which are permanently connected) I never need more than one USB port at a time. I'm using laptops any more due to having to be in a power wheelchair; - I shelfed the desktop unit about 10 years ago! Being a huge fan of industrial grade Velcro, I can attach my hub to the lid same as my external drive, so both are easily transferable. That is the solution I was seeking. I duct taped the right speaker to the inside top of the desk after this latest kerfluffle. -- pyotr filipivich Next month's Panel: Graft - Boon or blessing? |
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If I have to do a complete install, would it be better to geta bigger drive, or a new computer?
Ken Blake wrote:
On Sat, 19 Jan 2019 19:40:25 -0500, GS wrote: GS on Sat, 19 Jan 2019 15:56:50 -0500 typed in alt.windows7.general the following: GS on Sat, 19 Jan 2019 13:48:04 -0500 typed in alt.windows7.general the following: If the new computer runs the Kaby Lake (or newer) chipset and newer hardware, Win7 will install but finding drivers will be next to impossible. Best approach might be to go with refurbished -OR- upgrade your own unit. Regardless of which approach, you'll have to re-install your apps if you want them to work properly! Note also, if you do a clean install of Win7 keep in mind its ISO knows nothing about USB3.0 and so you'll have to install the Root Hub and the eXtensible Host Controller available (free) from Intel if your box has USB3 ports. "Oh joy." Thanks. I was addressing the point you mentioned about some 'front' USB ports not working; - just an FYI! Thanks. I wound up buying an external (and powered) hub. It does the job, perhaps not as elegantly, but definitely less expensively. I use an external hub myself just for convenience because USB sticks are easier to insert/remove for me. (I have Lou Gehrig's and so using out-of-sight ports is physically difficult.) My computer's tower has no front USB ports, so what I do is run a "USB extension cord" from its rear to the front of my desk where I have it attached. Quick, easy, and very inexpensive. And (except for keyboard and mouse, which are permanently connected) I never need more than one USB port at a time. You can get other solutions for that, if you have a slot for a PCI Express x1 card, plus a spare drive bay. With the right odds and ends, the cabling can stay inside. https://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...9SIA6V85BG6708 Paul |
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If I have to do a complete install, would it be better to get a bigger drive, or a new computer?
Ken Blake wrote:
On Sat, 19 Jan 2019 19:40:25 -0500, GS wrote: GS on Sat, 19 Jan 2019 15:56:50 -0500 typed in alt.windows7.general the following: GS on Sat, 19 Jan 2019 13:48:04 -0500 typed in alt.windows7.general the following: If the new computer runs the Kaby Lake (or newer) chipset and newer hardware, Win7 will install but finding drivers will be next to impossible. Best approach might be to go with refurbished -OR- upgrade your own unit. Regardless of which approach, you'll have to re-install your apps if you want them to work properly! Note also, if you do a clean install of Win7 keep in mind its ISO knows nothing about USB3.0 and so you'll have to install the Root Hub and the eXtensible Host Controller available (free) from Intel if your box has USB3 ports. "Oh joy." Thanks. I was addressing the point you mentioned about some 'front' USB ports not working; - just an FYI! Thanks. I wound up buying an external (and powered) hub. It does the job, perhaps not as elegantly, but definitely less expensively. I use an external hub myself just for convenience because USB sticks are easier to insert/remove for me. (I have Lou Gehrig's and so using out-of-sight ports is physically difficult.) My computer's tower has no front USB ports, so what I do is run a "USB extension cord" from its rear to the front of my desk where I have it attached. Quick, easy, and very inexpensive. And (except for keyboard and mouse, which are permanently connected) I never need more than one USB port at a time. You can get other solutions for that, if you have a slot for a PCI Express x1 card, plus a spare drive bay. With the right odds and ends, the cabling can stay inside. https://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...9SIA6V85BG6708 Paul Thanks for the excellent suggestion! I actually do have that config on all my laptops, though this one (Win7Pro) runs a Samsung 860 EVO SSD only because it's not hardwared for PCIe NVMe as my Win10 laptops are. (It came with a 256GB but I replaced that with the 512GB EVO just recently) This laptop also has an empty SATA bay I was thinking to fill with a spare Crucial 1TB 2.5" SSD I have but held off thinking to replace my 2TB WD external HDD with it because its enclosure is smaller/lighter, and the WD is much larger than I'll ever use. I might also use it to replace the Data HDD in one of my Win10 units if I feel need for it. My newest travel laptop (Dell 14 7000) came with a 128GB PCIe NVMe SSD but I'll swap that out for a spare Samsung 512GB 960 Pro card I have not currently in use. It already has a 1TB HDD (only 5400rpm sadly) data storage drive but I'll likely never use it much. Now you'll understand better why I need the data storage to be portable. Using industrial grade Velcro makes that conveniently possible without any excess cable hang issues nor need for desk surface because they attach to the lid and I use 90 degree USB adapters for streamlining the cables along the sides of the laptop. Laptops velcro to my adjustable computer tray that has its own built-in slideout mouse tray. (It's actually a keyboard tray from a hospital computer-on-wheels unit I was gifted with from the manufacturer; I modified it to slip onto receivers I designed for my powerchair armrests!g) -- Garry Free usenet access at http://www.eternal-september.org Classic VB Users Regroup! comp.lang.basic.visual.misc microsoft.public.vb.general.discussion |
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If I have to do a complete install, would it be better to get a bigger drive, or a new computer?
On 1/20/2019 9:30 AM, GS wrote:
On Sat, 19 Jan 2019 19:35:13 -0500, GS wrote: The free upgrade to Win10 offer has expired! Yes, however Microsoft still lets some people who ask them nicely get it for free. Ah.., that explains Paul's comment about installing Win10 over Win7! I thought it had expired. Just tried it. Installed/activated win7 updated to win10 1809 and it activated without intervention. Being too lazy to reinstall all the programs, I restored a macrium backup of a similar fully configured machine. Activation lost, but online activation brought it back with a click. Excellent! Thanks for these details; - they'll be helpful. For clarity.., what OS was the Macrium backup? -- Garry Free usenet access at http://www.eternal-september.org Classic VB Users Regroup! comp.lang.basic.visual.misc microsoft.public.vb.general.discussion |
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If I have to do a complete install, would it be better to get a bigger drive, or a new computer?
On Sun, 20 Jan 2019 13:54:34 -0500, Paul wrote:
Ken Blake wrote: My computer's tower has no front USB ports, so what I do is run a "USB extension cord" from its rear to the front of my desk where I have it attached. Quick, easy, and very inexpensive. And (except for keyboard and mouse, which are permanently connected) I never need more than one USB port at a time. You can get other solutions for that, if you have a slot for a PCI Express x1 card, plus a spare drive bay. With the right odds and ends, the cabling can stay inside. https://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...9SIA6V85BG6708 I don't currently have a need for a product like that, but I'm impressed enough with the idea, and of course the nearly 60% off sale helps, that I might just pick one up for the 'junk' drawer. -- Char Jackson |
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If I have to do a complete install, would it be better to geta bigger drive, or a new computer?
Char Jackson wrote:
On Sun, 20 Jan 2019 13:54:34 -0500, Paul wrote: Ken Blake wrote: My computer's tower has no front USB ports, so what I do is run a "USB extension cord" from its rear to the front of my desk where I have it attached. Quick, easy, and very inexpensive. And (except for keyboard and mouse, which are permanently connected) I never need more than one USB port at a time. You can get other solutions for that, if you have a slot for a PCI Express x1 card, plus a spare drive bay. With the right odds and ends, the cabling can stay inside. https://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...9SIA6V85BG6708 I don't currently have a need for a product like that, but I'm impressed enough with the idea, and of course the nearly 60% off sale helps, that I might just pick one up for the 'junk' drawer. I don't buy stuff like that, unless I know which chip that is. There are two brands of chip I wouldn't buy. One brand spent around two years, torturing people with unstable Windows 7 drivers. The other brand was "almost invisible" from a support perspective, and not enough copies of their driver had "escaped" into the wild, to make them useful. And I feel pinheads should be punished. RealTek on the other hand, is the poster boy of good support. Providing terabytes worth of drivers from their own site. I'm sure their management have many regrets about doing that. The first USB3 card I bought, used a NEC/Renesas chip. The second USB3 card I bought, an Asmedia chip. The NEC card even had a WinXP driver. Paul |
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If I have to do a complete install, would it be better to get abigger drive, or a new computer?
On 1/20/2019 12:54 PM, GS wrote:
On 1/20/2019 9:30 AM, GS wrote: On Sat, 19 Jan 2019 19:35:13 -0500, GS wrote: The free upgrade to Win10 offer has expired! Yes, however Microsoft still lets some people who ask them nicely get it for free. Ah.., that explains Paul's comment about installing Win10 over Win7! I thought it had expired. Just tried it. Installed/activated win7 updated to win10 1809 and it activated without intervention. Being too lazy to reinstall all the programs, I restored a macrium backup of a similar fully configured machine. Activation lost, but online activation brought it back with a click. Excellent! Thanks for these details; - they'll be helpful. For clarity.., what OS was the Macrium backup? The backukp was win7, but can be backed up from winPE on the macrium recovery disk. Restore from winPE on the recovery disk. |
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If I have to do a complete install, would it be better to get a bigger drive, or a new computer?
On Sun, 20 Jan 2019 19:19:15 -0500, Paul wrote:
Char Jackson wrote: On Sun, 20 Jan 2019 13:54:34 -0500, Paul wrote: Ken Blake wrote: My computer's tower has no front USB ports, so what I do is run a "USB extension cord" from its rear to the front of my desk where I have it attached. Quick, easy, and very inexpensive. And (except for keyboard and mouse, which are permanently connected) I never need more than one USB port at a time. You can get other solutions for that, if you have a slot for a PCI Express x1 card, plus a spare drive bay. With the right odds and ends, the cabling can stay inside. https://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...9SIA6V85BG6708 I don't currently have a need for a product like that, but I'm impressed enough with the idea, and of course the nearly 60% off sale helps, that I might just pick one up for the 'junk' drawer. I don't buy stuff like that, unless I know which chip that is. So I assume you bought one. For me, life's a bit easier. I don't care about the chipset. I only want to know if it works, and according to the (small number of) reviews, it does. My older Lian Li case doesn't have front panel USB3 ports, so this would make a nice addition. -- Char Jackson |
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If I have to do a complete install, would it be better to get a bigger drive, or a new computer?
On Sun, 20 Jan 2019 08:46:07 -0700, Ken Blake
wrote: My computer's tower has no front USB ports, so what I do is run a "USB extension cord" from its rear to the front of my desk where I have it attached. Quick, easy, and very inexpensive. And (except for keyboard and mouse, which are permanently connected) I never need more than one USB port at a time. If I had looked instead of trusting my memory, I wouldn't have said that. My tower *does* have front USB ports. The reason I use an extension cord is that it's mounted higher on my desk, and is much easier to reach than the low ports on the tower. |
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