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Because he was a good friend, I took his old XP machine AMD-2800
and gave him a spare Win10 machine. I decided to format the drive , put in 2 gigs of ram and install Win7 All went well except (as I already knew) it will not update until I install a newer browser. The funny thing is I could not go to the Microsoft site to download it with IE8. I had IE11 on a USB stick but I just thought this funny. Because the CPU does not have SSE2 I could neither install Firefox or Chrome. Maybe one of my friends can still use the machine. Anyone know a decent browser I could put on a low spec machine like this? |
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On 21/01/2019 22:58, philo wrote:
Because he was a good friend, I took his old XP machine AMD-2800 and gave him a spare Win10 machine. I decided to format the drive , put in 2 gigs of ram and install Win7 All went well except (as I already knew) it will not update until I install a newer browser. The funny thing is I could not go to the Microsoft site to download it with IE8. I had IE11 on a USB stick but I just thought this funny. Because the CPU does not have SSE2 I could neither install Firefox or Chrome. Maybe one of my friends can still use the machine. Anyone know a decent browser I could put on a low spec machine like this? I've been playing with this, Philo https://github.com/brave/brave-browser It works well on my iMac and is supposedly good on all platforms. -- David B. |
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philo wrote:
Because he was a good friend, I took his old XP machine AMD-2800 and gave him a spare Win10 machine. I decided to format the drive , put in 2 gigs of ram and install Win7 All went well except (as I already knew) it will not update until I install a newer browser. The funny thing is I could not go to the Microsoft site to download it with IE8. I had IE11 on a USB stick but I just thought this funny. Because the CPU does not have SSE2 I could neither install Firefox or Chrome. Maybe one of my friends can still use the machine. Anyone know a decent browser I could put on a low spec machine like this? There's a reference here to FF49 working without SSE2 support. Firefox versions after that might need SSE2. https://softwarerecs.stackexchange.c...nstruction-set The Firefox releases are available if you want to spend the time testing. http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/releases/ Paul |
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On 1/21/19 5:48 PM, David B. wrote:
On 21/01/2019 22:58, philo wrote: Because he was a good friend, I took his old XP machine AMD-2800 and gave him a spare Win10 machine. I decided to format the drive , put in 2 gigs of ram and install Win7 All went well except (as I already knew) it will not update until I install a newer browser. The funny thing is I could not go to the Microsoft site to download it with IE8. I had IE11 on a USB stick but I just thought this funny. Because the CPU does not have SSE2 I could neither install Firefox or Chrome. Maybe one of my friends can still use the machine. Anyone know a decent browser I could put on a low spec machine like this? I've been playing with this, Philo https://github.com/brave/brave-browser It works well on my iMac and is supposedly good on all platforms. Thank you , will try it |
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On 1/21/19 6:28 PM, Paul wrote:
philo wrote: Because he was a good friend, I took his old XP machine AMD-2800 and gave him a spare Win10 machine. I decided to format the drive , put in 2 gigs of ram and install Win7 All went well except (as I already knew) it will not update until I install a newer browser. The funny thing is I could not go to the Microsoft site to download it with IE8. I had IE11 on a USB stick but I just thought this funny. Because the CPU does not have SSE2 I could neither install Firefox or Chrome. Maybe one of my friends can still use the machine. Anyone know a decent browser I could put on a low spec machine like this? There's a reference here to FF49 working without SSE2 support. Firefox versions after that might need SSE2. https://softwarerecs.stackexchange.c...nstruction-set The Firefox releases are available if you want to spend the time testing. http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/releases/ ** Paul Thank you. Once I load an alternate browser I'm going to give the machine away if I can find a taker. |
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On 1/21/2019 7:10 PM, philo wrote:
On 1/21/19 6:28 PM, Paul wrote: philo wrote: Because he was a good friend, I took his old XP machine AMD-2800 and gave him a spare Win10 machine. I decided to format the drive , put in 2 gigs of ram and install Win7 All went well except (as I already knew) it will not update until I install a newer browser. The funny thing is I could not go to the Microsoft site to download it with IE8. I had IE11 on a USB stick but I just thought this funny. Because the CPU does not have SSE2 I could neither install Firefox or Chrome. Maybe one of my friends can still use the machine. Anyone know a decent browser I could put on a low spec machine like this? There's a reference here to FF49 working without SSE2 support. Firefox versions after that might need SSE2. https://softwarerecs.stackexchange.c...nstruction-set The Firefox releases are available if you want to spend the time testing. http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/releases/ *** Paul Thank you. Once I load an alternate browser I'm going to give the machine away if I can find a taker. According to this discussion some version of Opera (between 12.17 and 22 - that isn't clear) should work. https://forums.opera.com/topic/11022...tion-support/5 |
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On 22/01/2019 03:09, philo wrote:
On 1/21/19 5:48 PM, David B. wrote: On 21/01/2019 22:58, philo wrote: Because he was a good friend, I took his old XP machine AMD-2800 and gave him a spare Win10 machine. I decided to format the drive , put in 2 gigs of ram and install Win7 All went well except (as I already knew) it will not update until I install a newer browser. The funny thing is I could not go to the Microsoft site to download it with IE8. I had IE11 on a USB stick but I just thought this funny. Because the CPU does not have SSE2 I could neither install Firefox or Chrome. Maybe one of my friends can still use the machine. Anyone know a decent browser I could put on a low spec machine like this? I've been playing with this, Philo https://github.com/brave/brave-browser It works well on my iMac and is supposedly good on all platforms. Thank you , will try it Any luck? -- David B. |
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Mike S wrote:
On 1/21/2019 7:10 PM, philo wrote: On 1/21/19 6:28 PM, Paul wrote: philo wrote: Because he was a good friend, I took his old XP machine AMD-2800 and gave him a spare Win10 machine. I decided to format the drive , put in 2 gigs of ram and install Win7 All went well except (as I already knew) it will not update until I install a newer browser. The funny thing is I could not go to the Microsoft site to download it with IE8. I had IE11 on a USB stick but I just thought this funny. Because the CPU does not have SSE2 I could neither install Firefox or Chrome. Maybe one of my friends can still use the machine. Anyone know a decent browser I could put on a low spec machine like this? There's a reference here to FF49 working without SSE2 support. Firefox versions after that might need SSE2. https://softwarerecs.stackexchange.c...nstruction-set The Firefox releases are available if you want to spend the time testing. http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/releases/ Paul Thank you. Once I load an alternate browser I'm going to give the machine away if I can find a taker. According to this discussion some version of Opera (between 12.17 and 22 - that isn't clear) should work. https://forums.opera.com/topic/11022...tion-support/5 https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/c...ut-sse2.48002/ "Chromium 35 has stopped supporting non-SSE2 Linux systems..." https://help.opera.com/en/opera-version-history/ Opera 22 Release date 2014-06-03 Rendering engine Chromium 35 Which means an Opera 21 might work. And just maybe, Chromium 34 would work. I seem to remember there was a directory with a ton of builds in it, but no map as to what was what... At least they made it easy :-/ I mean, this is why we make computers, to make life this miserable. https://www.chromium.org/getting-inv...nload-chromium Paul |
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On Mon, 21 Jan 2019 23:48:16 +0000, "David B." "David
wrote: On 21/01/2019 22:58, philo wrote: Because he was a good friend, I took his old XP machine AMD-2800 and gave him a spare Win10 machine. I decided to format the drive , put in 2 gigs of ram and install Win7 All went well except (as I already knew) it will not update until I install a newer browser. The funny thing is I could not go to the Microsoft site to download it with IE8. I had IE11 on a USB stick but I just thought this funny. Because the CPU does not have SSE2 I could neither install Firefox or Chrome. I've been playing with this, Philo https://github.com/brave/brave-browser //What are the system requirements to install Brave? Windows An Intel Pentium 4 processor or later that's SSE2 capable// You didn't even bother to read the specs, did you ? Some people never change. https://web.archive.org/web/20180204...ks-stalker.php []'s -- Don't be evil - Google 2004 We have a new policy - Google 2012 |
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On 1/21/19 5:58 PM, philo wrote:
Because he was a good friend, I took his old XP machine AMD-2800 and gave him a spare Win10 machine. I decided to format the drive , put in 2 gigs of ram and install Win7 All went well except (as I already knew) it will not update until I install a newer browser. The funny thing is I could not go to the Microsoft site to download it with IE8. I had IE11 on a USB stick but I just thought this funny. Because the CPU does not have SSE2 I could neither install Firefox or Chrome. Maybe one of my friends can still use the machine. Anyone know a decent browser I could put on a low spec machine like this? Could you get another machine to download the install and then move it over? Am I reading you problem right? |
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On 1/21/19 4:58 PM, philo wrote:
[snip] Because the CPU does not have SSE2 I could neither install Firefox or Chrome. I maintain an old Pentiun III (no SSE2) machine for a friend. The latest Firefox that will work on it is version 48.0.2 (https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/releases/48.0.2/). Maybe one of my friends can still use the machine. Anyone know a decent browser I could put on a low spec machine like this? -- Mark Lloyd http://notstupid.us/ "Skepticism is the highest duty and blind faith the one unpardonable sin." -- Thomas Henry Huxley (1825-1895) |
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On Mon, 21 Jan 2019 21:10:04 -0600, philo wrote:
On 1/21/19 6:28 PM, Paul wrote: philo wrote: Because he was a good friend, I took his old XP machine AMD-2800 and gave him a spare Win10 machine. I decided to format the drive , put in 2 gigs of ram and install Win7 All went well except (as I already knew) it will not update until I install a newer browser. The funny thing is I could not go to the Microsoft site to download it with IE8. I had IE11 on a USB stick but I just thought this funny. Because the CPU does not have SSE2 I could neither install Firefox or Chrome. Maybe one of my friends can still use the machine. Anyone know a decent browser I could put on a low spec machine like this? There's a reference here to FF49 working without SSE2 support. Firefox versions after that might need SSE2. https://softwarerecs.stackexchange.c...nstruction-set The Firefox releases are available if you want to spend the time testing. http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/releases/ ** Paul Thank you. Once I load an alternate browser I'm going to give the machine away if I can find a taker. Why not reinstall XP, keep it offline and use it to test software (a lot of malware can detect a VM) ? I have a spare just for that. OR you could boot a Linux-CD firewall on it and keep track of all your network activity. If it's hacked, just reboot. A HD/keyboard/screen/graphical card would be un-necessary.Just two network cards, one of which is probably built into the MB .... []'s -- Don't be evil - Google 2004 We have a new policy - Google 2012 |
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Big Al wrote:
Could you get another machine to download the install and then move it over? Am I reading you problem right? I think what he is doing, is trying to prep an SSE2-free Athlon era single core 32 bit machine, for donation to the next visitor. That means installing an OS, then installing a browser to make it useful, and selecting the browser before the user discovers the SSE2 exposure :-) Like perhaps a "browser fleet" of selected toffees, with their auto-updates disabled. It's possible Windows 7 "Windows Update" is gating on SSE2 at the moment as well, so this problem is far from solved. Windows 7 is cheeky enough to check for a Kaby Lake and reject updating it, so it has plenty of time to be checking for "no SSE2" while it's at it. There are two cases to worry about. Software which actively checks (runs an SSE2 instruction and if the CPU doesn't have SSE2, a descriptive message appears warning of the issue). And the second case is software that "just crashes", as the helpful message :-) ******* It's too bad there wasn't an "F-line" like emulation for trapping SSE2 instructions and replacing them with a subroutine of some sort. Then I see this... https://reactos.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=18071 "This is because SSE & SSE2 instructions don't all trap properly on all CPUs." Plus, things like this have an underlying root cause. It could be the Visual Studio compiler/linker always use SSE2 now, and that's the root cause of this on Windows. It's possible the build environment uses the Visual Studio compiler and linker, without using the Visual Studio IDE necessarily. They could have used gcc, but on Windows, the executables end up debugged with different tools. A gcc compile debugs on gdb. A Visual Studio compile debugs on windbg. The loading formats are different somehow. When I write my own little 60 line programs, those would only debug on gdb because I'm using MINGW. Otherwise, at runtime, there's no problem with my little programs running, even on the Win10 machine. Paul |
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On 22/01/2019 15:32, Shadow wrote:
On Mon, 21 Jan 2019 23:48:16 +0000, "David B." "David wrote: On 21/01/2019 22:58, philo wrote: Because he was a good friend, I took his old XP machine AMD-2800 and gave him a spare Win10 machine. I decided to format the drive , put in 2 gigs of ram and install Win7 All went well except (as I already knew) it will not update until I install a newer browser. The funny thing is I could not go to the Microsoft site to download it with IE8. I had IE11 on a USB stick but I just thought this funny. Because the CPU does not have SSE2 I could neither install Firefox or Chrome. I've been playing with this, Philo https://github.com/brave/brave-browser //What are the system requirements to install Brave? Windows An Intel Pentium 4 processor or later that's SSE2 capable// You didn't even bother to read the specs, did you ? No. Philo is a big boy now; maybe he'll use it on another computer. Some people never change. Indeed. I suspect you've been an arsehole for the whole of your miserable life. You're sad. :-( -- David B. |
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On Tue, 22 Jan 2019 17:22:39 +0000, "David B." "David
wrote: On 22/01/2019 15:32, Shadow wrote: On Mon, 21 Jan 2019 23:48:16 +0000, "David B." "David wrote: On 21/01/2019 22:58, philo wrote: Because he was a good friend, I took his old XP machine AMD-2800 and gave him a spare Win10 machine. I decided to format the drive , put in 2 gigs of ram and install Win7 All went well except (as I already knew) it will not update until I install a newer browser. The funny thing is I could not go to the Microsoft site to download it with IE8. I had IE11 on a USB stick but I just thought this funny. Because the CPU does not have SSE2 I could neither install Firefox or Chrome. I've been playing with this, Philo https://github.com/brave/brave-browser //What are the system requirements to install Brave? Windows An Intel Pentium 4 processor or later that's SSE2 capable// You didn't even bother to read the specs, did you ? No. Philo is a big boy now; maybe he'll use it on another computer. So you didn't even bother to read his post ? He's not interested in installing it on "another computer". Some people never change. How true. https://web.archive.org/web/20180204...ks-stalker.php []'s -- Don't be evil - Google 2004 We have a new policy - Google 2012 |
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