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  #196  
Old March 24th 19, 12:59 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.computer.workshop
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On Sat, 23 Mar 2019 23:42:52 -0000, Jonathan N. Little wrote:

Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sat, 23 Mar 2019 20:19:27 -0000, Jonathan N. Little
wrote:

Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sat, 23 Mar 2019 19:38:35 -0000, Jonathan N. Little
wrote:

Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sat, 23 Mar 2019 04:39:41 -0000, Jonathan N. Little
wrote:


snip

Also big difference when it is a *vector* PDF. And editing text is
more
difficult. Yes you *can* take a screenshot. There are those who
always
steal; but editing my artwork without written consent would
violate the
copyright my clients agree to with the project.

Capitalist ****.


Do you get paid for the work you do? I'm an artist, and deserve to get
paid for my work...and we don't even get royalties like musicians and
actors...

You're as bad as them, you expect to get paid more than once for one
piece of work.

How the hell you you come to that conclusion?


Bricklayer builds one house, gets paid once. He wants more money, he
does more work.

Musician records one song, gets paid millions of times over 30 years.Sheer laziness.


Didn't explain how it apply to me and my copyright that prevents
modification of my artwork.


Because you made the artwork once yet want paid more than once. Is it that hard for you to understand?

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  #197  
Old March 24th 19, 01:01 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.computer.workshop
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On Sat, 23 Mar 2019 22:56:43 -0000, Carlos E.R. wrote:

On 23/03/2019 21.52, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sat, 23 Mar 2019 20:19:27 -0000, Jonathan N. Little
wrote:

Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sat, 23 Mar 2019 19:38:35 -0000, Jonathan N. Little
wrote:

Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sat, 23 Mar 2019 04:39:41 -0000, Jonathan N. Little
wrote:


snip

Also big difference when it is a *vector* PDF. And editing text is
more
difficult. Yes you *can* take a screenshot. There are those who
always
steal; but editing my artwork without written consent would
violate the
copyright my clients agree to with the project.

Capitalist ****.


Do you get paid for the work you do? I'm an artist, and deserve to get
paid for my work...and we don't even get royalties like musicians and
actors...

You're as bad as them, you expect to get paid more than once for one
piece of work.

How the hell you you come to that conclusion?


Bricklayer builds one house, gets paid once. He wants more money, he
does more work.

Musician records one song, gets paid millions of times over 30 years.Sheer laziness.


A writer writes a book. It is printed. He gets paid for every printed
copy sold. Same thing.


Yip, they do **** all for a living too.

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  #198  
Old March 24th 19, 01:01 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.computer.workshop
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On Sat, 23 Mar 2019 22:49:45 -0000, Carlos E.R. wrote:

On 23/03/2019 20.29, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sat, 23 Mar 2019 12:20:06 -0000, Carlos E.R.
wrote:

On 23/03/2019 03.02, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sat, 23 Mar 2019 01:33:25 -0000, Mayayana
wrote:

"Commander Kinsey" wrote

| PDF for graphics and artwork.
|
| Do you really think we can't press "printscreen"?
|

Yes. You can also counterfeit money. But there's
a difference between giving you a high quality TIF
vs a lower quality JPG in a PDF that you then copy
at 96 ppi. Getting good quality from that will be harder
or impossible.

I can get whatever quality you put in the PDF. Same as I can get
whatever quality you put in a Word document. The PDF doesn't protect
you, you're hiding your head in the sand.

And there's a deliberate effort required
on your part to break the law.

Predsing one key on my keyboard ain't breaking the law. If the image is
on my screen, I can do whatever the **** I like with it.

No, you can't. Not within the law.


The image is on MY computer. No logical person would say I can't do
what I want with that image.


Try that in court :-P


You say that as though courts know what they're doing.

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Old March 24th 19, 01:02 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.computer.workshop
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On Sat, 23 Mar 2019 22:47:58 -0000, Carlos E.R. wrote:

On 23/03/2019 20.29, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sat, 23 Mar 2019 12:17:07 -0000, Carlos E.R.
wrote:

On 22/03/2019 22.51, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Fri, 22 Mar 2019 21:36:55 -0000, Mayayana
wrote:

"Jonathan N. Little" wrote

| Commander Kinsey wrote:
|
| The question should be, why are you deliberately preventing them
from
| editing it? Why do you care
|
| Copyright protection on original creative work. Allow others to view
and
| print but not modify.
|

That, too. But in this case it's not even that.
It's just common sense and good business. The
same reason we don't write out checks, receipts and
bills in pencil. The recipient has no right to change
them and such a change could be harmful as well
as criminal.

I can only assume that Cmr. Kinsey has
decided to play devil's advocate. His repeated
questioning makes no sense.

Pssst, I can change your bill by simply screengrabbing it. Your feeble
attempts are futile. Anyone who wants to change something will do so.

That's why PDFs can be signed. Any modification is verifiable.


After printing?


That's a modification per se. A printed copy is invalid as proof. You
have to pass on the original bill PDF, not the paper. I can refuse to
pay if I get the paper only.


Er, it's you billing me remember?

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Old March 24th 19, 01:02 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.computer.workshop
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On Sat, 23 Mar 2019 22:44:27 -0000, Carlos E.R. wrote:

On 23/03/2019 20.21, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sat, 23 Mar 2019 12:09:12 -0000, Carlos E.R.
wrote:

On 22/03/2019 17.52, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Fri, 22 Mar 2019 12:20:49 -0000, Carlos E.R.
wrote:

On 21/03/2019 21.23, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Thu, 21 Mar 2019 19:17:19 -0000, Chris wrote:

Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Wed, 20 Mar 2019 18:56:24 -0000, Chris
wrote:

Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Tue, 19 Mar 2019 11:23:13 -0000, Carlos E.R.
wrote:

On 19/03/2019 00.16, Commander Kinsey wrote:.

You'd be hard pressed to develop anything worse than Adobe's
Acrobat
Reader. Just try printing something from it, you won't get
anything
remotely like what's on the screen. I often have to screengrab
it and
print it from Paintshop Pro.

Huh? I never had any such problem printing from adobe reader
reliably.

I have, I never get the size I expect. Easier to put it into a
photo
editor with a screengrab, then you can fit to page etc.

Pdfs are vector formats and by definition can be scaled to any size
without
losing resolution*. A pdf print dialogue box always has a
"shrink to
fit"
and/or "scale to page" option.

By taking a screenshot your rasterising the page and losing the
benefit of
the pdf.

* Unless it had been saved as raster format. But that's dumb so not
common
these days.

I think the last thing I tried to print was a calendar - I'd found a
website that generates calendars for any month and year in pdf
format. I
wanted to print most of the page, cutting off the borders, but
acrobat
reader was unable to, so I just screengrabbed. I got the
resolution of
the monitor, which is fine.

Anything should be able to print properly. PDF doesn't help here.

Actually it does. That's the whole point of the format. It is
completely
device agnostic so it doesn't matter what you're viewing it on or
printing
it with it should print as the author designed it. You often see
forms as
word files and they never print or render properly.

But what about how I want it?

That's not the main use case for pdfs. It's mainly a read-only
format -
forms excepted.

However, you can edit them in libreoffice draw or Adobe Illustrator
plus
others. Word allegedly reads them, but always makes a pig's ear of
them.

Why the hell would I want something I can't adjust before printing? I
might want only the top half, enlarged to fit the page, etc.

But PDFs are not designed for you to alter at will. They are
designed to
be printed as is, just expanded or shrinked to page.

Why design something you can't use properly? Not everyone wants things
exactly the same.

Because that is not "use properly" :-P

When I send a PDF it is print as /I/ intend, not as you intend.


Because you're more important than me? You need your head examined. I
want to print it as I want, not as you want.


It is my document. I decide. You want to edit my document? Ask for an
editable copy. I may pass it on, or I may refuse.

And that's how it is, that's the purpose of PDF, no matter how angry you
get.


People like you don't get my business.

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  #201  
Old March 24th 19, 01:06 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.computer.workshop
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On 23/03/2019 23:59, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sat, 23 Mar 2019 23:42:52 -0000, Jonathan N. Little
wrote:

Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sat, 23 Mar 2019 20:19:27 -0000, Jonathan N. Little
wrote:

Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sat, 23 Mar 2019 19:38:35 -0000, Jonathan N. Little
wrote:

Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sat, 23 Mar 2019 04:39:41 -0000, Jonathan N. Little
wrote:


snip

Also big difference when it is a *vector* PDF. And editing text is
more
difficult. Yes you *can* take a screenshot. There are those who
always
steal; but editing my artwork without written consent would
violate the
copyright my clients agree to with the project.

Capitalist ****.


Do you get paid for the work you do? I'm an artist, and deserve to
get
paid for my work...and we don't even get royalties like musicians and
actors...

You're as bad as them, you expect to get paid more than once for one
piece of work.

How the hell you you come to that conclusion?

Bricklayer builds one house, gets paid once.* He wants more money, he
does more work.

Musician records one song, gets paid millions of times over 30
years.Sheer laziness.


Didn't explain how it apply to me and my copyright that prevents
modification of my artwork.


Because you made the artwork once yet want paid more than once.* Is it
that hard for you to understand?


Are you referring to the money to be made from limited edition prints
from the original work?


  #202  
Old March 24th 19, 01:34 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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In article , 123456789
wrote:

You give your cash to the bank, they pay the merchant,
and the merchant has to give them a cut.


CC companies don't work for free.


handling cash isn't free either and also puts the merchant at risk for
being robbed.
  #203  
Old March 24th 19, 01:42 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.computer.workshop
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On Sun, 24 Mar 2019 00:06:27 -0000, David in Devon wrote:

On 23/03/2019 23:59, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sat, 23 Mar 2019 23:42:52 -0000, Jonathan N. Little
wrote:

Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sat, 23 Mar 2019 20:19:27 -0000, Jonathan N. Little
wrote:

Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sat, 23 Mar 2019 19:38:35 -0000, Jonathan N. Little
wrote:

Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sat, 23 Mar 2019 04:39:41 -0000, Jonathan N. Little
wrote:


snip

Also big difference when it is a *vector* PDF. And editing text is
more
difficult. Yes you *can* take a screenshot. There are those who
always
steal; but editing my artwork without written consent would
violate the
copyright my clients agree to with the project.

Capitalist ****.


Do you get paid for the work you do? I'm an artist, and deserve to
get
paid for my work...and we don't even get royalties like musicians and
actors...

You're as bad as them, you expect to get paid more than once for one
piece of work.

How the hell you you come to that conclusion?

Bricklayer builds one house, gets paid once. He wants more money, he
does more work.

Musician records one song, gets paid millions of times over 30
years.Sheer laziness.


Didn't explain how it apply to me and my copyright that prevents
modification of my artwork.


Because you made the artwork once yet want paid more than once. Is it
that hard for you to understand?


Are you referring to the money to be made from limited edition prints
from the original work?


Paint once, get paid once, otherwise it's cheating.

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  #204  
Old March 24th 19, 02:45 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.computer.workshop
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On Sat, 23 Mar 2019 23:25:30 +0000, David in Devon
wrote:


What you cannot do, as has been borne out in practice, is to store a
copy of an image or video in an environment external to your computer
without the permission of the copyright holder.

Here's an example: https://vimeo.com/CUT_POSSIBLE_STALKING

****You posted a link to stolen copyrighted media ?


The link is to a NOTICE from Vimeo - Shadow's not too bright.


How would I know ? I never click on your links. Not after you
posted links to illegal material and said something like "look at this
fun movie". It turned out to be personal, private media you STOLE.

"Stolen" from someone who doesn't believe in copyright, redacted


Nice confession.
who uploads stuff to Piratebay all the time.


Do you have any proof of that ?
I mean, REAL PROOF, not alcoholic blackouts later filled with
faux memories ? (We call it confabulation).

It took me a while to recognise that action cannot easily be taken,
though, with regard to images stored on Usenet servers! ;-)

****Last time I looked a couple of guys were given 5 years in jail
for uploading copyrighted material to Usenet servers.


It's only a civil offence, no jail time.


I thought you lived in the UK. Did you flee to China or something ?

//Upon conviction in the magistrates' court the maximum term of
incarceration in the UK for copyright infringement is 6 months and/or
a fine of up to £50,000. Upon conviction in the Crown Court the
maximum term of incarceration in the UK for copyright infringement is
10 years and/or an "unlimited" fine.//

Phew! ;-)


Must be a sigh of relief. Think of how many times you can pick
up the soap in the bathrooms in 10 years .

****Just about any server will respond to a DMCA request for ID
(IP address and time of posting).


Only if they're capitalist arseholes.


No, if someone uses their services to commit a criminal
offence, they are obliged to turn him/her/it in when served a court
order. If they don't, they become the criminals.

Once they know who you are, it's pay
up or go to jail. Or both.
****You've been lucky so far. Only received (numerous) take-down
notices for the crimes you've committed.

****DO NOT EVER click on any links the poster "also" known as BD
posts.

https://web.archive.org/web/20190318192230/https://tekrider.net/pages/david-brooks-stalker


That link you just posted is an act of stalking and it's you that needs
to get locked up.


You copied it drunk again. Please at least TRY get the URL
right

https://web.archive.org/web/20190318192230/https://tekrider.net/pages/david-brooks-stalker.php

The page says you TOLD the website owner to put the page up.
And that request is documented.

//[David Brooks]
I doubt you have the skill to do that. Prove me wrong redacted
Do it *NOW*! //

Are you denying it ? Do you think any of the information
presented as a public service is not true ? If so ask the website
owner to correct it. He probably will, thought it's HIS site, not
mine, so I'm just guessing. Be polite, at least as "polite" as you
were when you TOLD him to create the page.


The link posted is - in my opinion - *A FAKE*!


Well, sue the guy who gave permission in writing to the
website owner to put the page up. And archive.org of course. They
claim they only take snapshots of pages that actually exist.
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  #205  
Old March 24th 19, 03:34 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Mayayana wrote:
"123456789" wrote


I also get cash back on my [CC] card.


So all those poor people paying cash are subsidizing you
too?? 8-O

I use it mainly for cash flow, so that I don't have to
have a lot of money on hand for work materials.


Besides the CC eliminating carrying lots of cash it also
eliminates carrying lots of change. Big advantage IMO.
People paying with cash in my area are the minority.

Debit cards are different. They're unnecesary and confer
no benefit other than not having to carry cash.


DCs are good for people who don't trust themselves with CC
debt. And a heck of a lot easier than writing checks.
(Unless you pay off the CC each month cashback and other
rewards are greatly diminished or eliminated.)

A debit card transaction just transfers the payment from
your account to the merchant. Each transaction involves a
fee.


I can't get away from cash completely (grandkid birthdays
for example) so I do use my DC to get cash at the ATM as
needed. Otherwise it just sits at home. Does that make you
happy...

people who use debit cards cause a price increase for
the dubious conveinence of not using cash.


Yep. We all subsidize DC users just as we do CC users.
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Old March 24th 19, 04:24 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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In article , 123456789
wrote:

Debit cards are different. They're unnecesary and confer
no benefit other than not having to carry cash.


DCs are good for people who don't trust themselves with CC
debt. And a heck of a lot easier than writing checks.
(Unless you pay off the CC each month cashback and other
rewards are greatly diminished or eliminated.)


debit cards are also good for people who have ****ty credit and can't
get credit cards.

debit cards can also be useful for lower 'convenience fees' and
sometimes for discounts:

https://www.verizonwireless.com/support/auto-pay-faqs/
If you're on a plan that's eligible for an Auto Pay and paper-free
billing discount, you can get a $5 discount every month:
€ To get the discount, you must use a debit card or a bank account as
your automatic payment method (credit cards can't be used).
  #207  
Old March 24th 19, 07:42 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Paul wrote:
nospam wrote:
In article , Carlos E.R.
wrote:

For example, the table inside the document might only
have "ABCDE" from Times Roman. If you want to edit
the text string in the PDF file, and you need an "F",
it's not in the table. You may receive an error message
from the PDF editor that "the font is not available".
although technically possible, there is zero advantage in doing so.
The advantage is saving space in the PDF file.


fonts are very small (*much* smaller than the content of the pdf
itself), pdfs can be compressed and disk space is cheap anyway.

it's not worth the trouble to bother using only a couple of characters
in a font.


20MB for a full Chinese font.

That won't make a bit of difference to
your 500KB PDF.

Paul


How to check for subset fonts.

https://i.postimg.cc/cLLnpsx5/subset-fonts.gif

Paul
  #208  
Old March 24th 19, 07:50 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.computer.workshop,alt.comp.freeware,rec.photo.digital
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David in Devon
Sat, 23 Mar 2019 22:27:11 GMT
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[snip]

This is a well written and a keeper.


Why are you just now responding to a post I wrote days ago? You
didn't seem interested in it's contents then. And I don't see why you
specifically state this one is a keeper, vs others you've kept.
What's different about it? And besides, you've praised Malwarebytes
many times over, when you aren't accusing them of planting malware on
user machines, that is. Why do you give two ****s about what I have
to say about the subject?

Are you on the outs with Marcin again or something? Do you plan to
use my post as ammo to attack Malwarebytes again?

Dustin should have written to Marcin about this by now and offered
to help them resolve the situation he has described.


I did bring this to his attention when I was first hired and got to
see inside the database. I knew right off the bat what a problem it
was already and what a problem it was going to become if it wasn't
dealt with. I did this multiple times throughout my two years with
them. At one point I was told it was in the plans, but, clearly, some
years later, it never came to fruition. Instead, culling was the
method to keep the database size manageable.

Rather than say, oh I dunno, retain/hire more people who can
read/write assembler. But ****, that would rule out the leadership
and most of the so called 'experts' Malwarebytes has. ****, can't be
having that. No, instead, lets keep things as they are.

I think I've raised this with him before but seem to recall him
saying that companies ripping off ignorant customers was none of
his business.


That's not exactly what I wrote, but, I don't expect you to get
much/anything right with all the alcohol you've consumed.

Perhaps it's time for him to have a rethink about this.


Perhaps it's time (long time) for you to accept the fact that
Malwarebytes is all about the $$$ and not so much the customer. They
are claiming to be an outright replacement for your old outdated
antivirus for ****s sake, Do you really think being honest with their
customer base is really a top priority now?

It's not, but, hey on a good note, they are the type of people you
respect; loaded with money, status, and ****ing people over to get
there without losing a wink of sleep over it.

Anyone stupid enough to continue using that software after Project
Zeros analysis and my own comments concerning it deserves what they
get. If you uninstalled your antivirus program and replaced it with
Malwarebytes because that's what they claim you can do now, you're a
****ing idiot and you don't deserve to be using the machine sitting
in front of you.

You're a danger to yourself and others line, the best thing would be
for Malwarebytes to issue another bad set of defs and go ahead and
take that machine offline. Others won't have to pay for your
ignorance then.

I can't possibly be any clearer, David.


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Old March 24th 19, 07:50 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.computer.workshop,alt.comp.freeware,rec.photo.digital
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"Carlos E.R."
Thu, 21 Mar 2019 01:36:33 GMT
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On 21/03/2019 00.24, nospam wrote:
In article , Carlos E.R.
wrote:


But they
can add, and do add, additional features that only them
support properly (because they don't publish).

as can others, however, content creators are not required to
use them, and it would be foolish to do so. it's rare that a
pdf on a web site is anything fancy.

On the contrary. Most government forms and complex forms I
have seen use them.

I've seen the same.

They only need to be using adobe software for the creation, and
bingo! It happens even if they don't intend to.


false.


At which point I disregard what you say :-P


When nospam claimed Malwarebytes was an antivirus, I stopped reading
their posts. [g] I know what the software is and isn't, I worked for
the ****ing company in Malware Research; not sales. *GRIN*






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Old March 24th 19, 11:27 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sat, 23 Mar 2019 16:55:01 -0000, Chris wrote:

On 20/03/2019 18:58, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Wed, 20 Mar 2019 07:50:23 -0000, Chris wrote:

Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Tue, 19 Mar 2019 08:45:32 -0000, Chris wrote:

Commander Kinsey wrote:
Oh, Youtube changed to HTML5 4 years ago :-)
Surprising as I didn't think all browsers took up HTML5 for quite a
while.

So how come a big company like Adobe made such a piece of crap, and
didn't fix it?

They didn't make it, they bought it. I guess in the end it was too
hard to
maintain and required a specific install for every os. Just like
java which
is all also dying. HTML 5 is os agnostic by default. IOS not
supporting it
was the killer blow.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adobe_Flash

Who uses IOS? I doubt the percentage is very high. Isn't that just
small Apple devices?

Lots of people. At it's height about 60% of the market.

Now it's 23% of mobiles and 75%'of tablets
http://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-...bile/worldwide
http://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-...blet/worldwide

What market are you referring to? Why are you omitting real computers -
laptops and desktops?


If you'd read the link you'd have seen it was worldwide. As a proportion
of all 'computers' iOS is the third most common OS in the world
http://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share


I call bull****. Phones are a small percentage of all computing devices.
iOS is only on those silly little things, not real computers. A
telephone is to make phonecalls. A computer is for computing.


You may want to believe that, but it's denying reality.

As for your percentages, it's certainly not true around here (in
Scotland where people watch their money). I know of about 15 tablets
owned by friends and neighbours, and not one is Apple. I know of about
30 phones, and only 1 is Apple.


I'm also in Scotland and iphones are pretty common. I get the bus to
work and see a cross-section of people on their phones. I can easily
believe it's 20% iphone.


So 20% of people are gullible fools easily parted with their money, doesn't surprise me.


So you both call bull**** and aren't surprise?

It's a fashion statement, not a sensible decision.


No one is denying there is an element of that, but it is where the world
is.


 




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