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Old May 29th 19, 05:33 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
WayFarer
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I created a USB recovery drive under version 1809 but am uncertain about
the drive's functionality when my system is upgraded to version 1903. Do
I have to create a new one?
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Old May 29th 19, 10:47 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Paul[_32_]
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Default USB Recovery Drive

WayFarer wrote:
I created a USB recovery drive under version 1809 but am uncertain about
the drive's functionality when my system is upgraded to version 1903. Do
I have to create a new one?


Yes.

The question would be, does returning to 1809 have value to
you or not ?

In theory, this is a replacement for install media. But after
about three Windows 10 releases, I'm not sure Windows Update
would bring such a recovery image back to the present.
Your 1809 stick, once installed today, would get updated
to 1903 again, but if we were in the year 2022, the
stick would likely not receive any Windows Updates
after you set it up. So eventually, from a Microsoft
point of view, it becomes "too stale" as installation
media.

I just keep all the downloaded ISOs (from MediaCreationTool
or otherwise), if I want a "clean OS". A Win10 installer
DVD won't have my programs on it. But reinstalling a lot
of free stuff here, isn't such a big deal.

And I recommend going through *any* so-called backup
type things, with 7ZIP or with the mounter such a
tool would use, to see what is *actually* on the stick.
7-ZIP can burrow into files such as install.wim in a
sources folder. The WIM format was publicly documented,
which is why Igor could parse it. Whereas the ESD encrypted
format, Microsoft "neglected" to document it, and it's
just a WIM with encryption on top. But most of the time
today, tools like this allow you to examine the "big" file
on things like an installer ISO file, or, your USB stick.
That's how I examine things like the recovery stick,
to see what's in them. The recovery stick images were
so useful to me, I appear to have deleted them all.
And I'm a file hoarder :-)

https://www.7-zip.org/

Paul
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Old May 29th 19, 11:50 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
WayFarer
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Default USB Recovery Drive

On 29-May-19 4:47 pm, Paul wrote:
WayFarer wrote:
I created a USB recovery drive under version 1809 but am uncertain about
the drive's functionality when my system is upgraded to version 1903. Do
I have to create a new one?


Yes.

The question would be, does returning to 1809 have value to
you or not ?

In theory, this is a replacement for install media. But after
about three Windows 10 releases, I'm not sure Windows Update
would bring such a recovery image back to the present.
Your 1809 stick, once installed today, would get updated
to 1903 again, but if we were in the year 2022, the
stick would likely not receive any Windows Updates
after you set it up. So eventually, from a Microsoft
point of view, it becomes "too stale" as installation
media.

I just keep all the downloaded ISOs (from MediaCreationTool
or otherwise), if I want a "clean OS". A Win10 installer
DVD won't have my programs on it. But reinstalling a lot
of free stuff here, isn't such a big deal.

And I recommend going through *any* so-called backup
type things, with 7ZIP or with the mounter such a
tool would use, to see what is *actually* on the stick.
7-ZIP can burrow into files such as install.wim in a
sources folder. The WIM format was publicly documented,
which is why Igor could parse it. Whereas the ESD encrypted
format, Microsoft "neglected" to document it, and it's
just a WIM with encryption on top. But most of the time
today, tools like this allow you to examine the "big" file
on things like an installer ISO file, or, your USB stick.
That's how I examine things like the recovery stick,
to see what's in them. The recovery stick images were
so useful to me, I appear to have deleted them all.
And I'm a file hoarder :-)

https://www.7-zip.org/

Â*Â* Paul


Thanks for detailed response. I am going to create a new recovery drive
as soon as my system is upgraded to version 1903.

I wonder why the author of the below mentioned article did not expand on
the instructions.
https://www.maketecheasier.com/creat...ecovery-drive/

Thanks again!
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Old May 29th 19, 12:11 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Paul[_32_]
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Default USB Recovery Drive

WayFarer wrote:
On 29-May-19 4:47 pm, Paul wrote:
WayFarer wrote:
I created a USB recovery drive under version 1809 but am uncertain about
the drive's functionality when my system is upgraded to version 1903. Do
I have to create a new one?

Yes.

The question would be, does returning to 1809 have value to
you or not ?

In theory, this is a replacement for install media. But after
about three Windows 10 releases, I'm not sure Windows Update
would bring such a recovery image back to the present.
Your 1809 stick, once installed today, would get updated
to 1903 again, but if we were in the year 2022, the
stick would likely not receive any Windows Updates
after you set it up. So eventually, from a Microsoft
point of view, it becomes "too stale" as installation
media.

I just keep all the downloaded ISOs (from MediaCreationTool
or otherwise), if I want a "clean OS". A Win10 installer
DVD won't have my programs on it. But reinstalling a lot
of free stuff here, isn't such a big deal.

And I recommend going through *any* so-called backup
type things, with 7ZIP or with the mounter such a
tool would use, to see what is *actually* on the stick.
7-ZIP can burrow into files such as install.wim in a
sources folder. The WIM format was publicly documented,
which is why Igor could parse it. Whereas the ESD encrypted
format, Microsoft "neglected" to document it, and it's
just a WIM with encryption on top. But most of the time
today, tools like this allow you to examine the "big" file
on things like an installer ISO file, or, your USB stick.
That's how I examine things like the recovery stick,
to see what's in them. The recovery stick images were
so useful to me, I appear to have deleted them all.
And I'm a file hoarder :-)

https://www.7-zip.org/

Paul


Thanks for detailed response. I am going to create a new recovery drive
as soon as my system is upgraded to version 1903.

I wonder why the author of the below mentioned article did not expand on
the instructions.
https://www.maketecheasier.com/creat...ecovery-drive/

Thanks again!


Tenforums has a complete collection of Tutorials.
Near the bottom of the page, will be a list of "related" tutorials.

Scroll down to "Here's How" on this one.

https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/...dows-10-a.html

This is the "putting it back" example.

https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/...ery-drive.html

After you've looked at a few of these tutorials,
you'll become more and more curious about what exactly
is in the WIM.

Some people have trouble making that stick, because the
Reagentc pointer to the WinRE.wim file is broken. I think
the first time I tried, I had to fix that first. A later
try, I think it worked OK without me needing to fix stuff.

Paul
 




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