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using an old OS on XP
I know this is about XP and I have XP x64 Pro edition. I would like to
create a small partition to install win98se onto for fun and nostalgia But when I put that old disk into my XP's DVD-RW I can't do anything with it. Does anyone know anything about this kind of thing? I how this is on topic. Thanks Bill |
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using an old OS on XP
On 8/13/2014 6:35 PM, Bill Cunningham wrote:
I know this is about XP and I have XP x64 Pro edition. I would like to create a small partition to install win98se onto for fun and nostalgia But when I put that old disk into my XP's DVD-RW I can't do anything with it. Does anyone know anything about this kind of thing? I how this is on topic. Thanks Hi Bill, Windows 98SE needs a FAT partition I believe. Did you set up a FAT partition for it? It might also need that partition being within the first 120GB of the drive. Setting up dualboot is indeed possible, but the installer will likely setup it up all wrong if you install an older Windows version last. But it is indeed fixable. -- Bill Gateway M465e ('06 era) - Kingston 120GB SSD - Thunderbird v24.4.0 Centrino Core2 Duo T5600 1.83GHz - 4GB - Windows XP SP2 |
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"BillW50" wrote in message ... Hi Bill, Windows 98SE needs a FAT partition I believe. Did you set up a FAT partition for it? It might also need that partition being within the first 120GB of the drive. Setting up dualboot is indeed possible, but the installer will likely setup it up all wrong if you install an older Windows version last. But it is indeed fixable. The thing is installing XP as a fresh install will absolutely not let me format c: with FAT32. It will only let me format with NTFS. I have another partinio that is FAT32. I don't know what MS has against fat32 now, ntfs is fine but I like fat32 too. And it's more universal. Which OS has to be installed first? I can't reformat a mounted partition either of course. Bill |
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"Bill Cunningham" wrote in message
... I know this is about XP and I have XP x64 Pro edition. I would like to create a small partition to install win98se onto for fun and nostalgia But when I put that old disk into my XP's DVD-RW I can't do anything with it. Does anyone know anything about this kind of thing? I how this is on topic. Thanks Bill That old School Use This This Virtual PC 2007 http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/downl...s.aspx?id=4580 It Supported your Operating System Or https://www.virtualbox.org |
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On 8/13/2014 7:02 PM, Bill Cunningham wrote:
"BillW50" wrote in message ... Hi Bill, Windows 98SE needs a FAT partition I believe. Did you set up a FAT partition for it? It might also need that partition being within the first 120GB of the drive. Setting up dualboot is indeed possible, but the installer will likely setup it up all wrong if you install an older Windows version last. But it is indeed fixable. The thing is installing XP as a fresh install will absolutely not let me format c: with FAT32. It will only let me format with NTFS. I have another partinio that is FAT32. I don't know what MS has against fat32 now, ntfs is fine but I like fat32 too. And it's more universal. Which OS has to be installed first? I can't reformat a mounted partition either of course. XP install should let you use either FAT or NTFS as long as the partition is 32GB or smaller if I recall correctly. Any larger and it will only install using NTFS. There are utilities that will convert from NTFS to FAT32 anyway, so no big deal. And if you install Windows 98SE first, dualboot should work just fine. -- Bill Gateway M465e ('06 era) - Kingston 120GB SSD - Thunderbird v24.4.0 Centrino Core2 Duo T5600 1.83GHz - 4GB - Windows XP SP2 |
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Bill Cunningham wrote:
"BillW50" wrote in message ... Hi Bill, Windows 98SE needs a FAT partition I believe. Did you set up a FAT partition for it? It might also need that partition being within the first 120GB of the drive. Setting up dualboot is indeed possible, but the installer will likely setup it up all wrong if you install an older Windows version last. But it is indeed fixable. The thing is installing XP as a fresh install will absolutely not let me format c: with FAT32. It will only let me format with NTFS. I have another partinio that is FAT32. I don't know what MS has against fat32 now, ntfs is fine but I like fat32 too. And it's more universal. Which OS has to be installed first? I can't reformat a mounted partition either of course. Bill I think the general best advice is that the OLDER OS gets installed first (Win98SE), and that has to be on a FAT32 partition. Then install WinXP (preferably on an NTFS partition). But I'll let others weigh in here. |
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On 08/13/2014 04:35 PM, Bill Cunningham wrote:
I know this is about XP and I have XP x64 Pro edition. I would like to create a small partition to install win98se onto for fun and nostalgia But when I put that old disk into my XP's DVD-RW I can't do anything with it. Does anyone know anything about this kind of thing? I how this is on topic. If it was me, I would install VirtualBox and install it in there. It's a great place to test all types of different operating systems, from Windows to Linux, and even Macintosh. Jon |
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using an old OS on XP with Microsoft Virtual PC 2007
"BillW50" wrote in message
... On 8/13/2014 6:35 PM, Bill Cunningham wrote: I know this is about XP and I have XP x64 Pro edition. I would like to create a small partition to install win98se onto for fun and nostalgia But when I put that old disk into my XP's DVD-RW I can't do anything with it. Does anyone know anything about this kind of thing? I how this is on topic. Thanks Hi Bill, Windows 98SE needs a FAT partition I believe. Did you set up a FAT partition for it? It might also need that partition being within the first 120GB of the drive. Setting up dualboot is indeed possible, but the installer will likely setup it up all wrong if you install an older Windows version last. But it is indeed fixable. True But his pc to new a 64 bit os and his Ram will be to Big too But Windows 98 will run good on a Microsoft Virtual PC 2007. |
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"BillW50" wrote in message ... XP install should let you use either FAT or NTFS as long as the partition is 32GB or smaller if I recall correctly. Any larger and it will only install using NTFS. There are utilities that will convert from NTFS to FAT32 anyway, so no big deal. And if you install Windows 98SE first, dualboot should work just fine. Humm. I have one partiion about 200GB. Maybe that's it then. And does this 32G or less partition have to be at the beginning on the drive? Or can it be the 2nd or 3rd primary partition? Bill |
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using an old OS on XP with Microsoft Virtual PC 2007
"Hot-Text" wrote in message ... "BillW50" wrote in message ... On 8/13/2014 6:35 PM, Bill Cunningham wrote: I know this is about XP and I have XP x64 Pro edition. I would like to create a small partition to install win98se onto for fun and nostalgia But when I put that old disk into my XP's DVD-RW I can't do anything with it. Does anyone know anything about this kind of thing? I how this is on topic. Thanks Hi Bill, Windows 98SE needs a FAT partition I believe. Did you set up a FAT partition for it? It might also need that partition being within the first 120GB of the drive. Setting up dualboot is indeed possible, but the installer will likely setup it up all wrong if you install an older Windows version last. But it is indeed fixable. True But his pc to new a 64 bit os and his Ram will be to Big too But Windows 98 will run good on a Microsoft Virtual PC 2007. Too much memory? Do you mean win98se wouldn't be able to manage today's memory? I agree. But it should work. And what's 64 bit processor registers got to do with anything? It should still run. Bill |
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using an old OS on XP with Microsoft Virtual PC 2007
"Bill Cunningham" wrote in message
... "Hot-Text" wrote in message ... "BillW50" wrote in message ... On 8/13/2014 6:35 PM, Bill Cunningham wrote: I know this is about XP and I have XP x64 Pro edition. I would like to create a small partition to install win98se onto for fun and nostalgia But when I put that old disk into my XP's DVD-RW I can't do anything with it. Does anyone know anything about this kind of thing? I how this is on topic. Thanks Hi Bill, Windows 98SE needs a FAT partition I believe. Did you set up a FAT partition for it? It might also need that partition being within the first 120GB of the drive. Setting up dualboot is indeed possible, but the installer will likely setup it up all wrong if you install an older Windows version last. But it is indeed fixable. True But his pc to new a 64 bit os and his Ram will be to Big too But Windows 98 will run good on a Microsoft Virtual PC 2007. Too much memory? Do you mean win98se wouldn't be able to manage today's memory? I agree. But it should work. And what's 64 bit processor registers got to do with anything? It should still run. Bill It make a Virtual FAT 32 partition and you can setup to use 64 to 128 mb Ram I run windows 98 in a Microsoft Virtual PC 2007 on a 32 and a 64 http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/downl...s.aspx?id=4580 If you need help setting up we here for you |
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On Thu, 14 Aug 2014 00:33:29 -0400, "Bill Cunningham"
wrote: "BillW50" wrote in message ... XP install should let you use either FAT or NTFS as long as the partition is 32GB or smaller if I recall correctly. Any larger and it will only install using NTFS. There are utilities that will convert from NTFS to FAT32 anyway, so no big deal. And if you install Windows 98SE first, dualboot should work just fine. Humm. I have one partiion about 200GB. Maybe that's it then. And does this 32G or less partition have to be at the beginning on the drive? Or can it be the 2nd or 3rd primary partition? The message you are replying to is *not* correct. XP cannot *create* a FAT32 partition larger than 32GB. But it will happily use one if it was created by other software. |
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Ken Blake, MVP wrote:
On Thu, 14 Aug 2014 00:33:29 -0400, "Bill Cunningham" wrote: "BillW50" wrote in message ... XP install should let you use either FAT or NTFS as long as the partition is 32GB or smaller if I recall correctly. Any larger and it will only install using NTFS. There are utilities that will convert from NTFS to FAT32 anyway, so no big deal. And if you install Windows 98SE first, dualboot should work just fine. Humm. I have one partiion about 200GB. Maybe that's it then. And does this 32G or less partition have to be at the beginning on the drive? Or can it be the 2nd or 3rd primary partition? The message you are replying to is *not* correct. XP cannot *create* a FAT32 partition larger than 32GB. But it will happily use one if it was created by other software. What does "happily use" mean exactly ? My WinXP sits on a 72GB FAT32 partition. http://i59.tinypic.com/jayhp3.gif I could make it bigger, but why bother ? You can see it's only got 26GB on it right now. If you want to make big FAT32, try this. Fat32formatter. http://www.ridgecrop.demon.co.uk/ind...at32format.htm And that tool in fact, is exactly how an empty 72GB FAT32 partition was made, then files were Robocopied over. Followed by a "fixboot" to restore the PBR. I could just as easily have used Partition Magic. Is FAT32 "efficient" on a 2TB partition ? Not really. But if you want to run volumes a hair over 32GB, no problem with that. You can see it works. With the 4GB individual file size limit on FAT32, it doesn't make a lot of sense for me to store everything on it. For example, my 30GB Virtual Machines have to live on an NTFS data partition. I have a Ubuntu which is that big. I keep the OS portion small, so the backup takes ten minutes. Paul |
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On Thu, 14 Aug 2014 10:25:52 -0400, Paul wrote:
Ken Blake, MVP wrote: On Thu, 14 Aug 2014 00:33:29 -0400, "Bill Cunningham" wrote: "BillW50" wrote in message ... XP install should let you use either FAT or NTFS as long as the partition is 32GB or smaller if I recall correctly. Any larger and it will only install using NTFS. There are utilities that will convert from NTFS to FAT32 anyway, so no big deal. And if you install Windows 98SE first, dualboot should work just fine. Humm. I have one partiion about 200GB. Maybe that's it then. And does this 32G or less partition have to be at the beginning on the drive? Or can it be the 2nd or 3rd primary partition? The message you are replying to is *not* correct. XP cannot *create* a FAT32 partition larger than 32GB. But it will happily use one if it was created by other software. What does "happily use" mean exactly ? Just a figure of speech. I mean that it has no problems using it. |
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On 8/14/2014 9:25 AM, Paul wrote:
[...] I keep the OS portion small, so the backup takes ten minutes. I never understood why people can't backup just the OS regardless if it lives on a separate partition or not. What kind of poor backup software are people using that doesn't allow backing up by path(s)? I've been backing up by paths since the 90's at least. There is no need to backup by partition unless you are just not very bright and just don't know how to do anything else. -- Bill Gateway M465e ('06 era) - Kingston 120GB SSD - Thunderbird v24.4.0 Centrino Core2 Duo T5600 1.83GHz - 4GB - Windows XP SP2 |
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