Can Win 7 Settings Still Block Win10 "forced" update?

I ordered an new computer today running Windows 7 Ultimate. I got the
Ultimate because the seller said he said he could install it at the
same price as the Win 7 Pro version. I'm having the computer custom
built. I'm wondering if Windows 7 settings can still block any forced
update of Windows 10? I'm asking this because I don't trust those
*******s in Redmond. I hope they haven't subverted the option below.

https://betanews.com/2016/02/02/how-...ows-7-and-8-1/

To prevent Microsoft downloading and installing Windows 10 on your
computer, you need to turn off the Recommended Updates setting in
Windows Update and hide Windows 10 from the list of available
recommended updates.

In Windows 7, go to Start Control Panel System and Security
Windows Update. Click the Change settings link on the left.

Look for the Recommended updates entry and make sure it’s unchecked.
Click OK

jack3 wrote:
I ordered an new computer today running Windows 7 Ultimate. I got the
Ultimate because the seller said he said he could install it at the
same price as the Win 7 Pro version. I'm having the computer custom
built. I'm wondering if Windows 7 settings can still block any forced
update of Windows 10? I'm asking this because I don't trust those
*******s in Redmond. I hope they haven't subverted the option below.

https://betanews.com/2016/02/02/how-...ows-7-and-8-1/

To prevent Microsoft downloading and installing Windows 10 on your
computer, you need to turn off the Recommended Updates setting in
Windows Update and hide Windows 10 from the list of available
recommended updates.

In Windows 7, go to Start Control Panel System and Security
Windows Update. Click the Change settings link on the left.

Look for the Recommended updates entry and make sure it’s unchecked.
Click OK

Thinking about this is currently unnecessary.

The two patches to Windows 7, which would have kicked off
Get Windows 10 (GWX) have been superseded by patches which
remove and neuter them. If you started with a Win7 SP1
installation, then Windows Update would simply avoid
mentioning those patches at all.

You can *only* get GWX through Windows Update. The file
to kick it off, is missing from catalog.update.microsoft.com
on purpose. The distribution of the necessary file is controlled.
And it's been switched off in multiple ways, for a while now.

I set the Windows Update preferences (there are five values),
to the value that says "Don't check for Updates". The purpose
of doing that, is to prevent wuaueng from ever going into
a loop and burning up one core of my processor for a couple
hours a day. You can do Update checks by clicking the button,
when it is convenient for you (click the button before you go
to bed perhaps). Review the list of updates the next day,
when the windows comes back.

The updates offered have security-only versions, and
versions with "extra junk" in them. There's probably a list
around some where on the web, of what not to install, but
of course as soon as you install a current Cumulative,
all your hard work will be for nothing. Every Cumulative
will have whatever crap they want to shove in your OS,
making patching all that much more difficult. A site
like AskWoody sometimes comments on the topic.

https://www.myce.com/news/microsoft-...and-8-1-77166/

There should no longer be any GWX attempts going on.

Paul

On Fri, 15 Dec 2017 22:05:01 -0500, Paul
wrote:

jack3 wrote:
I ordered an new computer today running Windows 7 Ultimate. I got the
Ultimate because the seller said he said he could install it at the
same price as the Win 7 Pro version. I'm having the computer custom
built. I'm wondering if Windows 7 settings can still block any forced
update of Windows 10? I'm asking this because I don't trust those
*******s in Redmond. I hope they haven't subverted the option below.

https://betanews.com/2016/02/02/how-...ows-7-and-8-1/

To prevent Microsoft downloading and installing Windows 10 on your
computer, you need to turn off the Recommended Updates setting in
Windows Update and hide Windows 10 from the list of available
recommended updates.

In Windows 7, go to Start Control Panel System and Security
Windows Update. Click the Change settings link on the left.

Look for the Recommended updates entry and make sure it’s unchecked.
Click OK

Thinking about this is currently unnecessary.

The two patches to Windows 7, which would have kicked off
Get Windows 10 (GWX) have been superseded by patches which
remove and neuter them. If you started with a Win7 SP1
installation, then Windows Update would simply avoid
mentioning those patches at all.

You can *only* get GWX through Windows Update. The file
to kick it off, is missing from catalog.update.microsoft.com
on purpose. The distribution of the necessary file is controlled.
And it's been switched off in multiple ways, for a while now.

I set the Windows Update preferences (there are five values),
to the value that says "Don't check for Updates". The purpose
of doing that, is to prevent wuaueng from ever going into
a loop and burning up one core of my processor for a couple
hours a day. You can do Update checks by clicking the button,
when it is convenient for you (click the button before you go
to bed perhaps). Review the list of updates the next day,
when the windows comes back.

The updates offered have security-only versions, and
versions with "extra junk" in them. There's probably a list
around some where on the web, of what not to install, but
of course as soon as you install a current Cumulative,
all your hard work will be for nothing. Every Cumulative
will have whatever crap they want to shove in your OS,
making patching all that much more difficult. A site
like AskWoody sometimes comments on the topic.

https://www.myce.com/news/microsoft-...and-8-1-77166/

There should no longer be any GWX attempts going on.

Paul

Thanks for the very useful info. I'm going to show it to the guy
setting up my new Win 7 comp and make sure he knows what I *don't*
want.

Thanks again.

On Fri, 15 Dec 2017 22:05:01 -0500, Paul
wrote:

jack3 wrote:
I ordered an new computer today running Windows 7 Ultimate. I got the
Ultimate because the seller said he said he could install it at the
same price as the Win 7 Pro version. I'm having the computer custom
built. I'm wondering if Windows 7 settings can still block any forced
update of Windows 10? I'm asking this because I don't trust those
*******s in Redmond. I hope they haven't subverted the option below.

https://betanews.com/2016/02/02/how-...ows-7-and-8-1/

To prevent Microsoft downloading and installing Windows 10 on your
computer, you need to turn off the Recommended Updates setting in
Windows Update and hide Windows 10 from the list of available
recommended updates.

In Windows 7, go to Start Control Panel System and Security
Windows Update. Click the Change settings link on the left.

Look for the Recommended updates entry and make sure it’s unchecked.
Click OK

Thinking about this is currently unnecessary.

The two patches to Windows 7, which would have kicked off
Get Windows 10 (GWX) have been superseded by patches which
remove and neuter them. If you started with a Win7 SP1
installation, then Windows Update would simply avoid
mentioning those patches at all.

I saw this mentioned when I did more surfing on the subject of Win 7.
I never thought about changing over from XP to Win 7 until this past
week when the XP box started showing it's age much worse than
previously. I had never read a single thing about it. What I am
reading now concerning much of all the features it has, I think at
least half those so-called features are bloat.


You can *only* get GWX through Windows Update. The file
to kick it off, is missing from catalog.update.microsoft.com
on purpose. The distribution of the necessary file is controlled.
And it's been switched off in multiple ways, for a while now.

I'm going to take this up with the shop building my Win 7 box.

I set the Windows Update preferences (there are five values),
to the value that says "Don't check for Updates". The purpose
of doing that, is to prevent wuaueng from ever going into
a loop and burning up one core of my processor for a couple
hours a day. You can do Update checks by clicking the button,
when it is convenient for you (click the button before you go
to bed perhaps). Review the list of updates the next day,
when the windows comes back.

I've found some really educational sites revealing tons of necessary
info on setting up Win 7. Especially in regards to privacy. By the
way, the shop is putting the Ultimate version on my machine. Not
because I especially chose it, but they say their charging me the same
price as for the Pro version. I figured what the hey, go with it.
(Now please don't tell me that ISIS has backdoors installed in
Ultimate which they will confirm with a loud surprise package come
Christmas.)

The updates offered have security-only versions, and
versions with "extra junk" in them. There's probably a list
around some where on the web, of what not to install, but
of course as soon as you install a current Cumulative,
all your hard work will be for nothing. Every Cumulative
will have whatever crap they want to shove in your OS,
making patching all that much more difficult. A site
like AskWoody sometimes comments on the topic.

https://www.myce.com/news/microsoft-...and-8-1-77166/

I'm going to take the above matter up with the shop. Let them fix the
problem.

Aside: There is no way Redmond and Google should be allowed to remain
intact with the powers they have appropriated for themselves.


There should no longer be any GWX attempts going on.

Paul

I can see that Win 7 is going to be a bit of a learning experience.
What I liked about XP was the dang thing made sense. So far, I don't
feel that about Win 7 and it's plethora of gimmicks. Maybe I should
have stuck with my TRS-80, Gopher and Lynx?

In message , jack3
writes:
On Fri, 15 Dec 2017 22:05:01 -0500, Paul
wrote:

jack3 wrote:
I ordered an new computer today running Windows 7 Ultimate. I got the
Ultimate because the seller said he said he could install it at the
same price as the Win 7 Pro version. I'm having the computer custom
[]
The two patches to Windows 7, which would have kicked off
Get Windows 10 (GWX) have been superseded by patches which
remove and neuter them. If you started with a Win7 SP1
installation, then Windows Update would simply avoid
mentioning those patches at all.

I saw this mentioned when I did more surfing on the subject of Win 7.

Basically, you're not going to get 10 now.

I never thought about changing over from XP to Win 7 until this past
week when the XP box started showing it's age much worse than
previously. I had never read a single thing about it. What I am
reading now concerning much of all the features it has, I think at
least half those so-called features are bloat.

Hmm. Having used both, I've got used to 7, and have found it acceptable.
Sure, _some_ of its extra features may be seen as bloat (such as the
Aero theme, though I've grown to quite like that), but on the whole I
find it roughly as usable as XP, most of the differences just being due
to my unfamiliarity with it (I wouldn't try to put it on this machine,
which as it's my main machine means I'm more familiar with XP).
[]
I'm going to take this up with the shop building my Win 7 box.

I'd hold back on pushing them too much: from what has been said
elsewhere I don't _think_ 7 is supposed to be *put* on any machine now,
*unless* they've got some genuine unused 7 licences left (and possibly
not even then), and from the fact that they're offering you Ultimate at
the same price as Pro, I suspect that's not the case.
[]
Aside: There is no way Redmond and Google should be allowed to remain
intact with the powers they have appropriated for themselves.

YANA in thinking that. But how would you implement the breakup without
massive disruption (-:!

There should no longer be any GWX attempts going on.

Paul

I can see that Win 7 is going to be a bit of a learning experience.
What I liked about XP was the dang thing made sense. So far, I don't
feel that about Win 7 and it's plethora of gimmicks. Maybe I should
have stuck with my TRS-80, Gopher and Lynx?

Loading from cassette (-:. As I've said, for an XP user, 7's quite
usable once you get used to it a bit. And you can always use Classic
Shell to make it look largely like XP if you want ... I've never
actually done that to a 7 machine; my one experience was with an 8
machine, which looked so totally alien that I could hardly use it until
I put CS on. When I did, I saw it gave the option to look like XP,
Vista, or 7. I chose XP at that time, because it was for an old lady who
had been used to XP and was unlikely to use any extra facilities (which
I don't think Classic Shell actually _precludes_, anyway).
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