When is the last day to free upgrade from Vista or 7 to Win10?

FromTheRafters wrote:


My comment was slightly in jest, but I can certainly see how that could
be missed if you think that more time would result in more takers. I
don't think so since it has been made obvious that they were trying to
shove it down our throats and the reluctance is likely to persist even
if people are given more time to comply with the demand to upgrade to
Windows 10. --- more cheekiness I'm afraid ---^

There seems to be some feeling, that the Win10 campaign
is somehow dynamic, and Nadella runs around with a
whip, getting the staff to think up "new attacks".
And that at the last minute, they make program changes.

The program was designed well in advance. And
behavioral scientists reviewed it before
deployment. Everything they've done, was
done with "forward planning", including
that last full screen message telling you
that time is running out (delivered as a
security update to Windows 7 users). All of
this was planned long ago.

The only part they cannot control, is when
their developers finish features for the OS.
And it's a simple matter to turf content and
deliver it at a later date, if any content
doesn't "hit the gate". This is why, when cumulative
updates came in for 10586 after release, such
ancient time stamps were on the delivered files.
There was a pile of stuff that didn't hit the
gate for July29,2015 and it was pushed later.

Their plan is to stop the program on July 29,2016,
and I believe they will follow that plan. To the letter.

Pushing the Anniversary Edition to Aug.2, 2016,
allows a "Big Announcement" between July29 and Aug2.
And I have no idea what the next step in their
"business plan" is. No idea at all. Nothing has
been telegraphed. No leaks.

Paul

Paul explained :
FromTheRafters wrote:


My comment was slightly in jest, but I can certainly see how that could be
missed if you think that more time would result in more takers. I don't
think so since it has been made obvious that they were trying to shove it
down our throats and the reluctance is likely to persist even if people are
given more time to comply with the demand to upgrade to Windows 10. ---
more cheekiness I'm afraid ---^

There seems to be some feeling, that the Win10 campaign
is somehow dynamic, and Nadella runs around with a
whip, getting the staff to think up "new attacks".
And that at the last minute, they make program changes.

The program was designed well in advance. And
behavioral scientists reviewed it before
deployment. Everything they've done, was
done with "forward planning", including
that last full screen message telling you
that time is running out (delivered as a
security update to Windows 7 users). All of
this was planned long ago.

The only part they cannot control, is when
their developers finish features for the OS.
And it's a simple matter to turf content and
deliver it at a later date, if any content
doesn't "hit the gate". This is why, when cumulative
updates came in for 10586 after release, such
ancient time stamps were on the delivered files.
There was a pile of stuff that didn't hit the
gate for July29,2015 and it was pushed later.

Their plan is to stop the program on July 29,2016,
and I believe they will follow that plan. To the letter.

Pushing the Anniversary Edition to Aug.2, 2016,
allows a "Big Announcement" between July29 and Aug2.
And I have no idea what the next step in their
"business plan" is. No idea at all. Nothing has
been telegraphed. No leaks.

Paul

Thanks. I can say that if they were able to extend in scope (rather
than date) to include Vista (which isn't all that different from
Windows 7) they would get at least one more taker.

On Wed, 06 Jul 2016 20:22:39 -0500, Char Jackson
wrote:

On Wed, 06 Jul 2016 13:09:05 -0700, Gene Wirchenko wrote:

[snip]

I sure wish my XP system had not broken. I do not want to be a
target either. I am running Windows 7 and have turned off updates,
because I do not want Windows 10.

I use GWX Control Panel, but you can also use Never10 from GRC. Either way,
you can download and install every update, (if you want to). Those apps
prevent the upgrade to Win 10.

I use GWX Control Panel, too. Somehow, after a while, windows
updates did not download. Looking a bit deeper, I see that the
Windows Update service is stopping (and hung on this).

Also, I don't know what "broken" means, but I assume you can still use XP if
you want to, by simply fixing the broken system. Plenty of others still use
XP.

Hardware failure months ago. The unit is already tossed.

Sincerely,

Gene Wirchenko

On Thu, 07 Jul 2016 11:35:27 -0700, Gene Wirchenko
wrote:

On Wed, 06 Jul 2016 20:22:39 -0500, Char Jackson
wrote:

On Wed, 06 Jul 2016 13:09:05 -0700, Gene Wirchenko wrote:

[snip]

I sure wish my XP system had not broken. I do not want to be a
target either. I am running Windows 7 and have turned off updates,
because I do not want Windows 10.

I use GWX Control Panel, but you can also use Never10 from GRC. Either way,
you can download and install every update, (if you want to). Those apps
prevent the upgrade to Win 10.

I use GWX Control Panel, too. Somehow, after a while, windows
updates did not download. Looking a bit deeper, I see that the
Windows Update service is stopping (and hung on this).

So I rebooted, the service did start, but it does not download
anything.

Also, I don't know what "broken" means, but I assume you can still use XP if
you want to, by simply fixing the broken system. Plenty of others still use
XP.

Hardware failure months ago. The unit is already tossed.

Sincerely,

Gene Wirchenko

On Thu, 07 Jul 2016 11:35:27 -0700, Gene Wirchenko wrote:

On Wed, 06 Jul 2016 20:22:39 -0500, Char Jackson
wrote:

On Wed, 06 Jul 2016 13:09:05 -0700, Gene Wirchenko wrote:

[snip]

I sure wish my XP system had not broken. I do not want to be a
target either. I am running Windows 7 and have turned off updates,
because I do not want Windows 10.

I use GWX Control Panel, but you can also use Never10 from GRC. Either way,
you can download and install every update, (if you want to). Those apps
prevent the upgrade to Win 10.

I use GWX Control Panel, too. Somehow, after a while, windows
updates did not download. Looking a bit deeper, I see that the
Windows Update service is stopping (and hung on this).

Also, I don't know what "broken" means, but I assume you can still use XP if
you want to, by simply fixing the broken system. Plenty of others still use
XP.

Hardware failure months ago. The unit is already tossed.

In my experience, I've found that people are far too eager to claim hardware
failure. I suppose they mostly just want something new.

--

Char Jackson

On Fri, 08 Jul 2016 03:07:09 -0500, Char Jackson
wrote:

On Thu, 07 Jul 2016 11:35:27 -0700, Gene Wirchenko wrote:

[snip]

Hardware failure months ago. The unit is already tossed.

In my experience, I've found that people are far too eager to claim hardware
failure. I suppose they mostly just want something new.

Some, perhaps, but not me. I was quite happy with Windows XP. I
did not realise quite how happy until I switched over to the Windows 7
system I had on my desk and got bit by it in a number of ways.

Sincerely,

Gene Wirchenko