Macrium Image Guardian

Got an email from Macrium announcing a new function added to version
7.1. Wondering if anyone sees this as valuable.

Macrium Image Guardian

New in Macrium Reflect 7.1

*** From their web page:

About Macrium Image Guardian

To protect Macrium backup files against ransomware attacks, our
experienced team of developers added Macrium Image Guardian. MIG will
prevent unauthorised modifying of Macrium backup files on local and
USB volumes.

Should the worst happen, you can be assured that your latest backups
are recoverable. Unlike antivirus software products, MIG is focussed
on the single task of protecting Macrium files. It has a small
footprint and will not impact the performance of your PC.

Macrium Image Guardian protects your backup files from unauthorised
modification.

MIG only grants write access to Macrium Reflect version 7.1 and any
image tools created by us. All other processes will be denied write
access.

MIG protects local NTFS volumes and allows Macrium Reflect version 7.1
and later to use the protected volume as a shared network resource.

*** End of Macrium text

For complete info:
https://www.macrium.com/mig?x-ca=v7-098a

DC

On 10/31/2017 3:16 PM, wrote:
Got an email from Macrium announcing a new function added to version
7.1. Wondering if anyone sees this as valuable.

Macrium Image Guardian

New in Macrium Reflect 7.1

*** From their web page:

About Macrium Image Guardian

To protect Macrium backup files against ransomware attacks, our
experienced team of developers added Macrium Image Guardian. MIG will
prevent unauthorised modifying of Macrium backup files on local and
USB volumes.

Should the worst happen, you can be assured that your latest backups
are recoverable. Unlike antivirus software products, MIG is focussed
on the single task of protecting Macrium files. It has a small
footprint and will not impact the performance of your PC.

Macrium Image Guardian protects your backup files from unauthorised
modification.

MIG only grants write access to Macrium Reflect version 7.1 and any
image tools created by us. All other processes will be denied write
access.

MIG protects local NTFS volumes and allows Macrium Reflect version 7.1
and later to use the protected volume as a shared network resource.

*** End of Macrium text

For complete info:
https://www.macrium.com/mig?x-ca=v7-098a

DC


Yes , may be a good thing for some people, Personally I keep my Macrium
backups on a separate outboard drive which is always left disconnected.

Rene

wrote:
Got an email from Macrium announcing a new function added to version
7.1. Wondering if anyone sees this as valuable.

Macrium Image Guardian

New in Macrium Reflect 7.1

*** From their web page:

About Macrium Image Guardian

To protect Macrium backup files against ransomware attacks, our
experienced team of developers added Macrium Image Guardian. MIG will
prevent unauthorised modifying of Macrium backup files on local and
USB volumes.

Should the worst happen, you can be assured that your latest backups
are recoverable. Unlike antivirus software products, MIG is focussed
on the single task of protecting Macrium files. It has a small
footprint and will not impact the performance of your PC.

Macrium Image Guardian protects your backup files from unauthorised
modification.

MIG only grants write access to Macrium Reflect version 7.1 and any
image tools created by us. All other processes will be denied write
access.

MIG protects local NTFS volumes and allows Macrium Reflect version 7.1
and later to use the protected volume as a shared network resource.

*** End of Macrium text

For complete info:
https://www.macrium.com/mig?x-ca=v7-098a

DC


I'm on 6.3 64-bit. And no updates are available.
So IMG is for paid only?
Rene Lamontagne's procedure will do for me.

Ed

DennyCrane wrote:

Got an email from Macrium announcing a new function added to version
7.1 ... Image Guardian

Available only in their payware editions. Look at their edition
comparison page at:

https://www.macrium.com/reflectfree
("Ransomware protection" is blank for the free version)

On Tue, 31 Oct 2017 15:16:48 -0500, DennyCrane wrote:

Got an email from Macrium announcing a new function added to version
7.1. Wondering if anyone sees this as valuable.

Macrium Image Guardian

New in Macrium Reflect 7.1

*** From their web page:

About Macrium Image Guardian

To protect Macrium backup files against ransomware attacks, our
experienced team of developers added Macrium Image Guardian. MIG will
prevent unauthorised modifying of Macrium backup files on local and USB
volumes.

Should the worst happen, you can be assured that your latest backups are
recoverable. Unlike antivirus software products, MIG is focussed on the
single task of protecting Macrium files. It has a small footprint and
will not impact the performance of your PC.

Macrium Image Guardian protects your backup files from unauthorised
modification.

MIG only grants write access to Macrium Reflect version 7.1 and any
image tools created by us. All other processes will be denied write
access.

MIG protects local NTFS volumes and allows Macrium Reflect version 7.1
and later to use the protected volume as a shared network resource.

*** End of Macrium text

For complete info:
https://www.macrium.com/mig?x-ca=v7-098a

DC

There maybe some usage schemes where this would be of value. Generally,
in the life cycle of a product, the producer has exhausted the most
useful enhancements and has to scrape the barrel to come up with
something new.
I'm very happy with current free version and store backups on an external
drive connected only when I am doing so. My sole reason for retaining a
windows partition is to run macrium. I suppose I could just use the
recovery USB but that offers less backup options. As I write this, the
thought occurs that maybe the full version could be installed on such a
stick, I'll have to try it on a winpe stick.

FredW wrote:
On Tue, 31 Oct 2017 22:44:32 +0000, Ed Cryer
wrote:
wrote:
Got an email from Macrium announcing a new function added to version
7.1. Wondering if anyone sees this as valuable.

Macrium Image Guardian

New in Macrium Reflect 7.1

For complete info:
https://www.macrium.com/mig?x-ca=v7-098a


I'm on 6.3 64-bit. And no updates are available.
So IMG is for paid only?

Of course updates are available.

Macrium Reflect 7 Free Edition
Current Version: 7.1.2654 (23rd October 2017)
https://www.macrium.com/reflectfree

But on the comparison chart (page down)
no mention of Image Guardian.


I use Macrium Reflect Free 6.3.1835
and I have no plans to upgrade to version 7.


Strange. When I click on "Check for updates" in Reflect, I get "No
updates found".

Perhaps I'll have to download from that website.

Ed

On 11/1/2017 9:28 AM, Ed Cryer wrote:
FredW wrote:
On Tue, 31 Oct 2017 22:44:32 +0000, Ed Cryer
wrote:
wrote:
Got an email from Macrium announcing a new function added to version
7.1.Â* Wondering if anyone sees this as valuable.

Macrium Image Guardian

New in Macrium Reflect 7.1

For complete info:
https://www.macrium.com/mig?x-ca=v7-098a


I'm on 6.3 64-bit. And no updates are available.
So IMG is for paid only?

Of course updates are available.

Macrium Reflect 7 Free Edition
Current Version: 7.1.2654 (23rd October 2017)
https://www.macrium.com/reflectfree

But on the comparison chart (page down)
no mention of Image Guardian.


I use Macrium Reflect Free 6.3.1835
and I have no plans to upgrade to version 7.


Strange. When I click on "Check for updates" in Reflect, I get "No
updates found".

Perhaps I'll have to download from that website.

Ed

Yes Ed, I had to download and install the full Program from

https://www.macrium.com/reflectfree.

Rene

In message , Dave Cohen
writes:
[]
There maybe some usage schemes where this would be of value. Generally,
in the life cycle of a product,
[there comes a point where]
the producer has exhausted the most
useful enhancements and has to scrape the barrel to come up with
something new.
I'm very happy with current free version and store backups on an external
drive connected only when I am doing so. My sole reason for retaining a
windows partition is to run macrium. I suppose I could just use the
recovery USB but that offers less backup options. As I write this, the

I run mine from the boot CD (Windows PE environment rather than the
other one). Is this the same as the recovery USB? If so, what are the
extra options you _do_ get by running it from within Windows? (I _am_ a
Windows user; I run Macrium from the boot CD as I'm uneasy backing up
the system from within a running version of the system that's being
backed up, even though I do know it claims to be able to do so.)

thought occurs that maybe the full version could be installed on such a
stick, I'll have to try it on a winpe stick.
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

I don't like activity holidays. I like /inactivity/ holidays.
- Miriam Margolyes, RT 2017/4/15-21

Rene Lamontagne wrote:
On 11/1/2017 9:28 AM, Ed Cryer wrote:
FredW wrote:
On Tue, 31 Oct 2017 22:44:32 +0000, Ed Cryer
wrote:
wrote:
Got an email from Macrium announcing a new function added to version
7.1.Â* Wondering if anyone sees this as valuable.

Macrium Image Guardian

New in Macrium Reflect 7.1

For complete info:
https://www.macrium.com/mig?x-ca=v7-098a


I'm on 6.3 64-bit. And no updates are available.
So IMG is for paid only?

Of course updates are available.

Macrium Reflect 7 Free Edition
Current Version: 7.1.2654 (23rd October 2017)
https://www.macrium.com/reflectfree

But on the comparison chart (page down)
no mention of Image Guardian.


I use Macrium Reflect Free 6.3.1835
and I have no plans to upgrade to version 7.


Strange. When I click on "Check for updates" in Reflect, I get "No
updates found".

Perhaps I'll have to download from that website.

Ed

Yes Ed, I had to download and install the full Program from

https://www.macrium.com/reflectfree.

Rene



I've done the same.
Damn! They've gone bloated. Up from about 40MB to 70. It's the usual
story. Get a good product, drag millions in, bloat and sell.
The good-old days of Net pioneering are behind us. No longer do PhD
students design and implement a good system, put it live and free, get
their degree.

Ed

J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
In message , Dave Cohen
writes:
[]
There maybe some usage schemes where this would be of value. Generally,
in the life cycle of a product,
[there comes a point where]
the producer has exhausted the most
useful enhancements and has to scrape the barrel to come up with
something new.
I'm very happy with current free version and store backups on an external
drive connected only when I am doing so. My sole reason for retaining a
windows partition is to run macrium. I suppose I could just use the
recovery USB but that offers less backup options. As I write this, the

I run mine from the boot CD (Windows PE environment rather than the
other one). Is this the same as the recovery USB? If so, what are the
extra options you _do_ get by running it from within Windows? (I _am_ a
Windows user; I run Macrium from the boot CD as I'm uneasy backing up
the system from within a running version of the system that's being
backed up, even though I do know it claims to be able to do so.)

thought occurs that maybe the full version could be installed on such a
stick, I'll have to try it on a winpe stick.

I've just updated to the latest free, and the boot menu still works
fine. I get a choice at boot; Win7 or Macrium.
To get the same, choose "Add Recovery Boot Menu Option" from "Other Tasks".

Ed

In message , Ed Cryer
writes:
J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
In message , Dave Cohen
writes:
[]
There maybe some usage schemes where this would be of value. Generally,
in the life cycle of a product,
[there comes a point where]
the producer has exhausted the most
useful enhancements and has to scrape the barrel to come up with
something new.
I'm very happy with current free version and store backups on an external
drive connected only when I am doing so. My sole reason for retaining a
windows partition is to run macrium. I suppose I could just use the
recovery USB but that offers less backup options. As I write this, the
I run mine from the boot CD (Windows PE environment rather than the
other one). Is this the same as the recovery USB? If so, what are the
extra options you _do_ get by running it from within Windows? (I _am_
a Windows user; I run Macrium from the boot CD as I'm uneasy backing
up the system from within a running version of the system that's
being backed up, even though I do know it claims to be able to do so.)

thought occurs that maybe the full version could be installed on
such a
stick, I'll have to try it on a winpe stick.

I've just updated to the latest free, and the boot menu still works
fine. I get a choice at boot; Win7 or Macrium.
To get the same, choose "Add Recovery Boot Menu Option" from "Other Tasks".

Ed

You're assuming you will always be able to get as far as a boot menu, if
I read you rightly. I use it to image against, for example, the HD dying
altogether.

But what I was really asking was: you said the "recovery USB" "offers
less [sic] backup options" (than running it in a "windows partition" I
presume), and I was wondering what extra options running it under
Windows _does_ provide.
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

Quantum particles: the dreams that stuff is made of - David Moser

J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
In message , Ed Cryer
writes:
J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
In message , Dave Cohen
Â* writes:
[]
There maybe some usage schemes where this would be of value. Generally,
in the life cycle of a product,
[there comes a point where]
the producer has exhausted the most
useful enhancements and has to scrape the barrel to come up with
something new.
I'm very happy with current free version and store backups on an
external
drive connected only when I am doing so. My sole reason for retaining a
windows partition is to run macrium. I suppose I could just use the
recovery USB but that offers less backup options. As I write this, the
Â*I run mine from the boot CD (Windows PE environment rather than the
other one). Is this the same as the recovery USB? If so, what are the
extra options you _do_ get by running it from within Windows? (I _am_
aÂ* Windows user; I run Macrium from the boot CD as I'm uneasy backing
upÂ* the system from within a running version of the system that's
beingÂ* backed up, even though I do know it claims to be able to do so.)

thought occurs that maybe the full version could be installed on such a
stick, I'll have to try it on a winpe stick.

I've just updated to the latest free, and the boot menu still works
fine. I get a choice at boot; Win7 or Macrium.
To get the same, choose "Add Recovery Boot Menu Option" from "Other
Tasks".

Ed

You're assuming you will always be able to get as far as a boot menu, if
I read you rightly. I use it to image against, for example, the HD dying
altogether.

But what I was really asking was: you said the "recovery USB" "offers
less [sic] backup options" (than running it in a "windows partition" I
presume), and I was wondering what extra options running it under
Windows _does_ provide.

It's not run "under Windows"; it's run prior to that in the boot process.

Ed

Ed Cryer wrote:

J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:

But what I was really asking was: you said the "recovery USB" "offers
less [sic] backup options" (than running it in a "windows partition" I
presume), and I was wondering what extra options running it under
Windows _does_ provide.

It's not run "under Windows"; it's run prior to that in the boot process.

Well, it is running under Windows: Windows PE. It's just not the
instance of Windows on the HDD/SDD that is getting restored. The
Windows loaded from the disc or USB drive is a separate instance than
the one installed on the HDD/SDD which remain quiescent (cannot
interfere with the restore). The active OS is loaded from a different
source than the quiescent OS. In this case, both the active and
quiescent OSes are Windows but separate instances of the same OS.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Window...on_Environment

In message , Ed Cryer
writes:
J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
In message , Ed Cryer
writes:
J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
In message , Dave Cohen
* writes:
[]
windows partition is to run macrium. I suppose I could just use the
recovery USB but that offers less backup options. As I write this, the
[]
fine. I get a choice at boot; Win7 or Macrium.
To get the same, choose "Add Recovery Boot Menu Option" from "Other
Tasks".

Ed
You're assuming you will always be able to get as far as a boot
menu, if I read you rightly. I use it to image against, for example,
[]
It's not run "under Windows"; it's run prior to that in the boot process.

Ed

There are two aspects here.

1. Ed is running the version available "at boot", which assumes the HD
is still working.

2. Dave said "I could just use the recovery USB but that offers less
backup options."

I was really asking what much (more!) options the _non_-USB version
(which I assume _does_ mean the one running "under Windows") offers.
It's that question I'm more interested in.
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

Don't hit the keys so hard, it hurts.

On Wed, 01 Nov 2017 12:01:14 +0000, Dave Cohen wrote:

On Tue, 31 Oct 2017 15:16:48 -0500, DennyCrane wrote:

Got an email from Macrium announcing a new function added to version
7.1. Wondering if anyone sees this as valuable.

Macrium Image Guardian

New in Macrium Reflect 7.1

*** From their web page:

About Macrium Image Guardian

To protect Macrium backup files against ransomware attacks, our
experienced team of developers added Macrium Image Guardian. MIG will
prevent unauthorised modifying of Macrium backup files on local and USB
volumes.

Should the worst happen, you can be assured that your latest backups
are recoverable. Unlike antivirus software products, MIG is focussed on
the single task of protecting Macrium files. It has a small footprint
and will not impact the performance of your PC.

Macrium Image Guardian protects your backup files from unauthorised
modification.

MIG only grants write access to Macrium Reflect version 7.1 and any
image tools created by us. All other processes will be denied write
access.

MIG protects local NTFS volumes and allows Macrium Reflect version 7.1
and later to use the protected volume as a shared network resource.

*** End of Macrium text

For complete info:
https://www.macrium.com/mig?x-ca=v7-098a

DC

There maybe some usage schemes where this would be of value. Generally,
in the life cycle of a product, the producer has exhausted the most
useful enhancements and has to scrape the barrel to come up with
something new.
I'm very happy with current free version and store backups on an
external drive connected only when I am doing so. My sole reason for
retaining a windows partition is to run macrium. I suppose I could just
use the recovery USB but that offers less backup options. As I write
this, the thought occurs that maybe the full version could be installed
on such a stick, I'll have to try it on a winpe stick.

Tried putting the full windows version on winpe recovery stick and
program wouldn't launch, I won't pursue this further.
To answer the questions below, the backup program from the winpe recovery
stick on my version 6 doesn't offer differential, otherwise works ok.
I've made many backups and restore from within windows and have never had
a problem. I generally avoid doing other tasks during the backup.