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worthless activation
Did MS tell you in lettering large enough that didn't require a lawyer that you
only bought 25 uses of it ? Seems every time you upgrade your machine, crash, have to reinstall the os etc.. in general come up face to face with every bug MS is capable of throwing at you, and every time you have to activate brings you closer to having to ask every time one of these annoyances crashes you for permission to use your machine again from someone so bored of reading the same numbers over and over again all day long that you seriously consider taking a hammer to the machine ? And they wonder why there's piracy... This time next year after my 50th activation are they going to tell I can' activate at all ? I'm thinking I'll say goodbye to MS long before I reach that date. And if anyone cares this is on a registered copy less than a year old. -- more pix @ http://members.toast.net/cbminfo/index.html |
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There is no limit to the number of times you can activate
Windows XP installed on the same computer. If you are unable to activate via the internet, then select the alternative option to "activate by phone". How to activate Windows XP http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;307890 -- Carey Frisch Microsoft MVP Windows XP - Shell/User Microsoft Newsgroups Get Windows XP Service Pack 2 with Advanced Security Technologies: http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...xp/choose.mspx ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Husky" wrote: | Did MS tell you in lettering large enough that didn't require a lawyer that you | only bought 25 uses of it ? | | Seems every time you upgrade your machine, crash, have to reinstall the os | etc.. in general come up face to face with every bug MS is capable of throwing | at you, and every time you have to activate brings you closer to having to ask | every time one of these annoyances crashes you for permission to use your | machine again from someone so bored of reading the same numbers over and over | again all day long that you seriously consider taking a hammer to the machine ? | | And they wonder why there's piracy... This time next year after my 50th | activation are they going to tell I can' activate at all ? | | I'm thinking I'll say goodbye to MS long before I reach that date. | | And if anyone cares this is on a registered copy less than a year old. |
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Husky wrote:
Did MS tell you in lettering large enough that didn't require a lawyer that you only bought 25 uses of it ? Seems every time you upgrade your machine, crash, have to reinstall the os etc.. in general come up face to face with every bug MS is capable of throwing at you, and every time you have to activate brings you closer to having to ask every time one of these annoyances crashes you for permission to use your machine again from someone so bored of reading the same numbers over and over again all day long that you seriously consider taking a hammer to the machine ? And they wonder why there's piracy... This time next year after my 50th activation are they going to tell I can' activate at all ? I'm thinking I'll say goodbye to MS long before I reach that date. And if anyone cares this is on a registered copy less than a year old. First paragraph - incorrect. Second paragraph - usually your own fault. Third paragraph - insanity. Fourth paragraph - personal choice. Fifth paragraph - registration is optional, activation is mandatory. Simply put - other than you making a statement that you are considering not using a Microsoft product anymore - everything you stated is due to ignorance of the facts about activation, poor maintenance of the machine (ignorance of how to properly maintain a Windows computer) and/or just ranting and raving because of some unknown event that has happened to you. You can activate your copy of Windows XP (if an OEM copy - 'on the same hardware' should be added) an unlimited number of times. Depending on how often and the circumstance - you may find yourself required to call and actibvate over the telephone instead of the Internet. While there are bugs in Windows XP - a majority of computer problems (evident even by these newsgroups) are user issues - either by direct interaction or by the attempted use of obselete hardware/software. A reinstall of a system should hardly ever be "necessary" - given proper maintenance. Yes - hardware can and will go bad - this is a valid reason - and it can be disheartening to find out that you had purchased an OEM version of Windows XP and when your motherboard and hard drive fried from that lightning strike - the copy of Windows XP went with it because you cannot get the manufacturer to replace it since your PC is out of warranty. To be perfectly honest however, that would usually be the fault of the OEM that sole you the PC for customizing the copy of Windows XP so much.. If your machine was that old and you replaced the motherboard and hard drive and reinstalled Windows - you would probably activate it with no problem if the copy of Windows was a generic OEM. The fact about activation is it is unlimited - you can do it as often as you want as many times as you want and Microsoft has even stated that when Windows XP support ends, the activation necessity will somehow be "removed". If you are having trouble with activation by Internet - you try telephone activation.. if you have to talk to a MS representative instead of the automated line - you tell them your story.. Then you are reactivated. To put it in simplest terms - if you wanted to reactivate your copy of Windows XP without interacting with anyone - you could reinstall and do so every 121 days. First of all - what caused this rant? Can we help solve this problem so that your machine will not be so unreasonably unstable that you have to reinstall this often? Are you performing tests opf some sort that requires you to start at a certain point every so often? Have you ever considered an imaging product to backup your system after a fresh installation/activation? If this was more of a trolling expedition - I expect you to get a few more hits with or without your further participation. Otherwise - perhaps you should consider learning about your system, how to secure and stabilize it and how to basically maintain/troubleshoot it and see if all of your worries don't just go away... I'll wait for an answer before I assist further.. -- Shenan Stanley MS-MVP -- How To Ask Questions The Smart Way http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html |
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Would you care to show us where this 25 use limit is pointed out?
-- Gary Tsang Microsoft MVP - Windows XP Shell/User http://www.microsoft.com/mvp "Husky" wrote in message ... Did MS tell you in lettering large enough that didn't require a lawyer that you only bought 25 uses of it ? Seems every time you upgrade your machine, crash, have to reinstall the os etc.. in general come up face to face with every bug MS is capable of throwing at you, and every time you have to activate brings you closer to having to ask every time one of these annoyances crashes you for permission to use your machine again from someone so bored of reading the same numbers over and over again all day long that you seriously consider taking a hammer to the machine ? And they wonder why there's piracy... This time next year after my 50th activation are they going to tell I can' activate at all ? I'm thinking I'll say goodbye to MS long before I reach that date. And if anyone cares this is on a registered copy less than a year old. -- more pix @ http://members.toast.net/cbminfo/index.html |
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Husky wrote:
Did MS tell you in lettering large enough that didn't require a lawyer that you only bought 25 uses of it ? Well, no. Why should they? There's no such limitation/ Seems every time you upgrade your machine, crash, have to reinstall the os etc.. in general come up face to face with every bug MS is capable of throwing at you, and every time you have to activate brings you closer to having to ask every time one of these annoyances crashes you for permission to use your machine again from someone so bored of reading the same numbers over and over again all day long that you seriously consider taking a hammer to the machine ? Perhaps you should spend a little time learning how to use and maintain a computer, rather than mindlessly venting near-gibberish. And they wonder why there's piracy... This time next year after my 50th activation are they going to tell I can' activate at all ? Nope. That is, assuming that you know so little about computers and software that you actually have to re-install the OS 50 times. I'm thinking I'll say goodbye to MS long before I reach that date. If you can't manage to get a Windows PC to run without problem for a year or two, I'd pay to watch you try Linux. It'd be a laugh-riot. -- Bruce Chambers Help us help you: http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever count on having both at once. - RAH |
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Husky
Even if the activation limit was a reality, anybody who has to re-activate 24 times really shouldn't own a computer.. -- Mike Hall MVP - Windows Shell/User "If hard work were such a wonderful thing, surely the rich would have kept it all to themselves." - Lane Kirkland "Husky" wrote in message ... Did MS tell you in lettering large enough that didn't require a lawyer that you only bought 25 uses of it ? Seems every time you upgrade your machine, crash, have to reinstall the os etc.. in general come up face to face with every bug MS is capable of throwing at you, and every time you have to activate brings you closer to having to ask every time one of these annoyances crashes you for permission to use your machine again from someone so bored of reading the same numbers over and over again all day long that you seriously consider taking a hammer to the machine ? And they wonder why there's piracy... This time next year after my 50th activation are they going to tell I can' activate at all ? I'm thinking I'll say goodbye to MS long before I reach that date. And if anyone cares this is on a registered copy less than a year old. -- more pix @ http://members.toast.net/cbminfo/index.html |
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On Sat, 16 Jul 2005 10:35:00 -0500, "Carey Frisch [MVP]"
wrote: There is no limit to the number of times you can activate Windows XP installed on the same computer. If you are unable to activate via the internet, then select the alternative option to "activate by phone". How to activate Windows XP http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;307890 If you haven't upgraded your machine often enough, or re-installed the OS for whatever reason, and activated the MS liar software a minimum of 25 times, you don't know what you're talking about. The software that calls you liar and thief starts every time you run the machine. I replaced wheel mice maybe 5-6 times. each one triggering something in the liar monitor. I didn't bother to track it because activation took less than a minute. Now every time something blows up and the liar software tells you to reactivate, it's going to be a minimum of one hour listening to a machine that can't help you, then handed off to someone where your language is a 2nd language to them assuming they can read the numbers correctly the 1st few times. I guess they assumed the numbers they threw out could be argued as your fault, assuming you hadn't written them down as they were said. From now on every time this machine gets the urge, it's back to the same endless garbage on EVERY activation until I do switch to a BETTER OS.. Where are you Amiga ?????????? -- more pix @ http://members.toast.net/cbminfo/index.html |
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On Sat, 16 Jul 2005 10:46:27 -0500, "Shenan Stanley"
wrote: Husky wrote: Did MS tell you in lettering large enough that didn't require a lawyer that you only bought 25 uses of it ? Seems every time you upgrade your machine, crash, have to reinstall the os etc.. in general come up face to face with every bug MS is capable of throwing at you, and every time you have to activate brings you closer to having to ask every time one of these annoyances crashes you for permission to use your machine again from someone so bored of reading the same numbers over and over again all day long that you seriously consider taking a hammer to the machine ? And they wonder why there's piracy... This time next year after my 50th activation are they going to tell I can' activate at all ? I'm thinking I'll say goodbye to MS long before I reach that date. And if anyone cares this is on a registered copy less than a year old. First paragraph - incorrect. Second paragraph - usually your own fault. Third paragraph - insanity. Fourth paragraph - personal choice. Fifth paragraph - registration is optional, activation is mandatory. Simply put - other than you making a statement that you are considering not using a Microsoft product anymore - everything you stated is due to ignorance of the facts about activation, poor maintenance of the machine (ignorance of how to properly maintain a Windows computer) and/or just ranting and raving because of some unknown event that has happened to you. You can activate your copy of Windows XP (if an OEM copy - 'on the same hardware' should be added) an unlimited number of times. Depending on how often and the circumstance - you may find yourself required to call and actibvate over the telephone instead of the Internet. While there are bugs in Windows XP - a majority of computer problems (evident even by these newsgroups) are user issues - either by direct interaction or by the attempted use of obselete hardware/software. A reinstall of a system should hardly ever be "necessary" - given proper maintenance. Yes - hardware can and will go bad - this is a valid reason - and it can be disheartening to find out that you had purchased an OEM version of Windows XP and when your motherboard and hard drive fried from that lightning strike - the copy of Windows XP went with it because you cannot get the manufacturer to replace it since your PC is out of warranty. To be perfectly honest however, that would usually be the fault of the OEM that sole you the PC for customizing the copy of Windows XP so much.. If your machine was that old and you replaced the motherboard and hard drive and reinstalled Windows - you would probably activate it with no problem if the copy of Windows was a generic OEM. The fact about activation is it is unlimited - you can do it as often as you want as many times as you want and Microsoft has even stated that when Windows XP support ends, the activation necessity will somehow be "removed". If you are having trouble with activation by Internet - you try telephone activation.. if you have to talk to a MS representative instead of the automated line - you tell them your story.. Then you are reactivated. To put it in simplest terms - if you wanted to reactivate your copy of Windows XP without interacting with anyone - you could reinstall and do so every 121 days. First of all - what caused this rant? Can we help solve this problem so that your machine will not be so unreasonably unstable that you have to reinstall this often? Are you performing tests opf some sort that requires you to start at a certain point every so often? Have you ever considered an imaging product to backup your system after a fresh installation/activation? If this was more of a trolling expedition - I expect you to get a few more hits with or without your further participation. Otherwise - perhaps you should consider learning about your system, how to secure and stabilize it and how to basically maintain/troubleshoot it and see if all of your worries don't just go away... I'll wait for an answer before I assist further.. -- Shenan Stanley MS-MVP About the only thing that can be said is if you haven't reached the 25 modem activation limit yet, you don't know what you're talking about or in for. That installation serial of yours is trash after 25 activations. And still they miss the point that MS is calling anyone using their software a bunch of liars and thieves. And they let a DUMB machine make that decision. Why should you have to 'ACTIVATE' something you've already paid for more than once ? -- more pix @ http://members.toast.net/cbminfo/index.html |
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On Sat, 16 Jul 2005 13:36:35 -0400, "Gary Tsang"
wrote: Would you care to show us where this 25 use limit is pointed out? Hit the limit, they'll tell you in Spanish, Thai, or Yiddish. -- more pix @ http://members.toast.net/cbminfo/index.html |
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On Sat, 16 Jul 2005 15:03:39 -0400, "Mike Hall \(MS-MVP\)"
wrote: Husky Even if the activation limit was a reality, anybody who has to re-activate 24 times really shouldn't own a computer.. When you hit it and MS hasn't bought you out get back here. 25 is the limit on the serial for your OS by modem. 26- xxx are all by voice to a machine that's programmed to fail, and an international caller on the other end when it fails. You don't need to reinstall the OS 25 times, upgrading software, replacing old worthless parts, upgrading hardware, any time you reboot the machine the liar software checks your last few changes. If you use something it acquires wear and tear. requiring upgrading, replacing parts. But no sense really arguing with the MS robot dogs. You all seem to have been bought off ages ago by MS. -- more pix @ http://members.toast.net/cbminfo/index.html |
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Husky wrote:
About the only thing that can be said is if you haven't reached the 25 modem activation limit yet, you don't know what you're talking about or in for. That installation serial of yours is trash after 25 activations. No such limit - none - zero - zilch. And still they miss the point that MS is calling anyone using their software a bunch of liars and thieves. And they let a DUMB machine make that decision. No - that doesn't happen either. Why should you have to 'ACTIVATE' something you've already paid for more than once ? You paid for the usage - not the product. Ever activated a credit card? -- Shenan Stanley MS-MVP -- How To Ask Questions The Smart Way http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html |
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Husky wrote:
Hit the limit, they'll tell you in Spanish, Thai, or Yiddish. There is no limit. You are mistaken. -- Shenan Stanley MS-MVP -- How To Ask Questions The Smart Way http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html |
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Husky wrote:
When you hit it and MS hasn't bought you out get back here. 25 is the limit on the serial for your OS by modem. 26- xxx are all by voice to a machine that's programmed to fail, and an international caller on the other end when it fails. Doesn't exist. No limit on activation. You are just incorrect. When you are wrong - you are just wrong - no matter what it is. There is no limit on the number of times you can activate a license of Windows XP. -- Shenan Stanley MS-MVP -- How To Ask Questions The Smart Way http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html |
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Husky wrote:
If you haven't upgraded your machine often enough, or re-installed the OS for whatever reason, and activated the MS liar software a minimum of 25 times, you don't know what you're talking about. The software that calls you liar and thief starts every time you run the machine. I replaced wheel mice maybe 5-6 times. each one triggering something in the liar monitor. I didn't bother to track it because activation took less than a minute. Now every time something blows up and the liar software tells you to reactivate, it's going to be a minimum of one hour listening to a machine that can't help you, then handed off to someone where your language is a 2nd language to them assuming they can read the numbers correctly the 1st few times. I guess they assumed the numbers they threw out could be argued as your fault, assuming you hadn't written them down as they were said. From now on every time this machine gets the urge, it's back to the same endless garbage on EVERY activation until I do switch to a BETTER OS.. Where are you Amiga ?????????? Okay - ignore all my other responses to you.. In your world you are correct. Deal with it there. =) -- Shenan Stanley MS-MVP -- How To Ask Questions The Smart Way http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html |
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On Sun, 17 Jul 2005 00:34:12 -0500, "Shenan Stanley"
wrote: Husky wrote: When you hit it and MS hasn't bought you out get back here. 25 is the limit on the serial for your OS by modem. 26- xxx are all by voice to a machine that's programmed to fail, and an international caller on the other end when it fails. Doesn't exist. No limit on activation. You are just incorrect. When you are wrong - you are just wrong - no matter what it is. There is no limit on the number of times you can activate a license of Windows XP. You aren't the only one that doesn't have a clue what you're talking about, so let me provide PROOF. http://members.toast.net/cbminfo/bev/proof1.jpg http://members.toast.net/cbminfo/bev/proof2.jpg The word "EXCEEDED" plainly means a LIMITATION in every dictionary I've ever read. Final comment by the operator this will happen EVERY time it needs reactivation from now on. Voice activation ONLY ! -- more pix @ http://members.toast.net/cbminfo/index.html |
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