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Great explanation. I guess I learned something new today.
"John John (MVP)" wrote in message ... HeyBub wrote: sgopus wrote: I can see why you sign your replys as unknown, your an idiot. The screen clearly states it's the BIOS not windows loading, no assumption was made, just read the screen. Not necessarily. Much Windows stuff loads before there's an indication on the screen that Windows is in control. For example, Windows may be trying a remote boot from a non-existent device. Before Windows tries anything ntldr must first be loaded and you will either be presented with a boot menu from the boot.ini file or, if there is only one operating system present, or if the timeout value in the boot.ini file is set to 0, ntldr will proceed to load Windows without presenting a boot menu. In either case the BIOS post screen will be cleared and you will either see a boot menu or temporarily see a black screen while ntldr starts to load Windows, if you are still seeing POST information nothing Windows has yet happened. As a matter of fact if the BIOS POST screen is still present the boot process hasn't yet even been passed to the MBR so it will be pretty difficult for Windows to be doing anything! John |
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At least he seems to have a clue what he's talking about.
-- ---- Crosspost, do not multipost http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm How to ask a question http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375 Help Us Help You http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm "Unknown" wrote in message news You sure are an obnoxious, insulting know it all. "sgopus" wrote in message ... I can see why you sign your replys as unknown, your an idiot. The screen clearly states it's the BIOS not windows loading, no assumption was made, just read the screen. "Unknown" wrote: You must be assuming that. Why can't it be a timer that got screwed up. (Giving operator time to make a decision) "David B." wrote in message ... Because it's not items in startup that are causing the problem, the PC is hanging during POST, which is before Windows loads. -- ---- Crosspost, do not multipost http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm How to ask a question http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375 Help Us Help You http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm "Unknown" wrote in message ... Why don't you delete a few items at a time from startup till you find the causing program? "AT and HMB" wrote in message ... For some time now my start up hangs for 5 minutes and then goes on to boot up OK. The screen freezes thus: ********** Phoenix Award Workstation V6.00PG, An Energy Star Ally Copyright (C) 1984-2005, Phoenix Technologies Ltd (above is at top of the screen, most of screen is blank until bottom rows, which read: Press DEL to enter SETUP, F11 to enter Boot Manager 11/10/2005 - MS - 7030 - 6A61CM4CC - 00 ********** On pressing DEL, after a long wait, SETUP appears. Today after coming out of setup (without change) I had to endure a further 5 minutes freeze. It always freezes at this same point and, ODDLY, it never fails to boot up OK. Help please |
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You should start your own thread rather than hijacking this one, include as
much info as you can about the problem. -- ---- Crosspost, do not multipost http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm How to ask a question http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375 Help Us Help You http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm "parrotnut" wrote in message ... On Nov 18, 1:50 pm, Leonard Grey wrote: Your computer is freezing at the BIOS. Windows has not loaded yet, so this is not a Windows question. You may have an issue with your BIOS or your hardware. A professional geek can sort it for you, but I would first try contacting the company that made your computer. --- Leonard Grey Errare Humanum Est Security Tips for Everyone, from PC Magazinehttp://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2334856,00.asp AT and HMB wrote: For some time now my start up hangs for 5 minutes and then goes on to boot up OK. The screen freezes thus: ********** Phoenix Award Workstation V6.00PG, An Energy Star Ally Copyright (C) 1984-2005, Phoenix Technologies Ltd (above is at top of the screen, most of screen is blank until bottom rows, which read: Press DEL to enter SETUP, F11 to enter Boot Manager 11/10/2005 - MS - 7030 - 6A61CM4CC - 00 ********** On pressing DEL, after a long wait, SETUP appears. Today after coming out of setup (without change) I had to endure a further 5 minutes freeze. It always freezes at this same point and, ODDLY, it never fails to boot up OK. Help please I have the same problem, but have no vendor...I put this thing together out of new and used parts. It used to work great. |
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Whats that got to do with politeness?
"David B." wrote in message ... At least he seems to have a clue what he's talking about. -- ---- Crosspost, do not multipost http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm How to ask a question http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375 Help Us Help You http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm "Unknown" wrote in message news You sure are an obnoxious, insulting know it all. "sgopus" wrote in message ... I can see why you sign your replys as unknown, your an idiot. The screen clearly states it's the BIOS not windows loading, no assumption was made, just read the screen. "Unknown" wrote: You must be assuming that. Why can't it be a timer that got screwed up. (Giving operator time to make a decision) "David B." wrote in message ... Because it's not items in startup that are causing the problem, the PC is hanging during POST, which is before Windows loads. -- ---- Crosspost, do not multipost http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm How to ask a question http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375 Help Us Help You http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm "Unknown" wrote in message ... Why don't you delete a few items at a time from startup till you find the causing program? "AT and HMB" wrote in message ... For some time now my start up hangs for 5 minutes and then goes on to boot up OK. The screen freezes thus: ********** Phoenix Award Workstation V6.00PG, An Energy Star Ally Copyright (C) 1984-2005, Phoenix Technologies Ltd (above is at top of the screen, most of screen is blank until bottom rows, which read: Press DEL to enter SETUP, F11 to enter Boot Manager 11/10/2005 - MS - 7030 - 6A61CM4CC - 00 ********** On pressing DEL, after a long wait, SETUP appears. Today after coming out of setup (without change) I had to endure a further 5 minutes freeze. It always freezes at this same point and, ODDLY, it never fails to boot up OK. Help please |
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"Unknown" wrote:
Whats that got to do with politeness? People cut you some slack when you know what you are talking about - which Dave B. apparently thinks you don't. "David B." wrote in message ... At least he seems to have a clue what he's talking about. |
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Does that mean if I make a mistake I am to be insulted and called names? I'm
referring to 'scopus'. "Snidley W." wrote in message ... "Unknown" wrote: Whats that got to do with politeness? People cut you some slack when you know what you are talking about - which Dave B. apparently thinks you don't. "David B." wrote in message ... At least he seems to have a clue what he's talking about. |
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"Unknown" wrote:
Does that mean if I make a mistake I am to be insulted and called names? I'm referring to 'scopus'. If you have a demonstrated history of making mistakes, absolutely. Besides, this is Usenet. It's not your typical afternoon tea party where the ladies with get together for polite chit-chat. "Snidley W." wrote in message .. . "Unknown" wrote: Whats that got to do with politeness? People cut you some slack when you know what you are talking about - which Dave B. apparently thinks you don't. "David B." wrote in message ... At least he seems to have a clue what he's talking about. |
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if you offer advice in a newsgroup, you had best know what your talking
about, you will be correctedif you don't, as I have many times, just ask me I'll tell you.. "Unknown" wrote: You sure are an obnoxious, insulting know it all. "sgopus" wrote in message ... I can see why you sign your replys as unknown, your an idiot. The screen clearly states it's the BIOS not windows loading, no assumption was made, just read the screen. "Unknown" wrote: You must be assuming that. Why can't it be a timer that got screwed up. (Giving operator time to make a decision) "David B." wrote in message ... Because it's not items in startup that are causing the problem, the PC is hanging during POST, which is before Windows loads. -- ---- Crosspost, do not multipost http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm How to ask a question http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375 Help Us Help You http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm "Unknown" wrote in message ... Why don't you delete a few items at a time from startup till you find the causing program? "AT and HMB" wrote in message ... For some time now my start up hangs for 5 minutes and then goes on to boot up OK. The screen freezes thus: ********** Phoenix Award Workstation V6.00PG, An Energy Star Ally Copyright (C) 1984-2005, Phoenix Technologies Ltd (above is at top of the screen, most of screen is blank until bottom rows, which read: Press DEL to enter SETUP, F11 to enter Boot Manager 11/10/2005 - MS - 7030 - 6A61CM4CC - 00 ********** On pressing DEL, after a long wait, SETUP appears. Today after coming out of setup (without change) I had to endure a further 5 minutes freeze. It always freezes at this same point and, ODDLY, it never fails to boot up OK. Help please |
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you should find a name to call yourself besides unknown, and be willing to
admit when your wrong, unknown is cowardly. if your advice stinks, then yes. "Unknown" wrote: Does that mean if I make a mistake I am to be insulted and called names? I'm referring to 'scopus'. "Snidley W." wrote in message ... "Unknown" wrote: Whats that got to do with politeness? People cut you some slack when you know what you are talking about - which Dave B. apparently thinks you don't. "David B." wrote in message ... At least he seems to have a clue what he's talking about. |
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sgopus wrote:
you should find a name to call yourself besides unknown, and be willing to admit when your wrong, unknown is cowardly. if your advice stinks, then yes. What do you think about changing it to "unknowing"?? "Unknown" wrote: |
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David B. wrote:
Let me quote the OP for you people that can't read "The screen freezes thus: ********** Phoenix Award Workstation V6.00PG, An Energy Star Ally Copyright (C) 1984-2005, Phoenix Technologies Ltd (above is at top of the screen, most of screen is blank until bottom rows, which read: Press DEL to enter SETUP, F11 to enter Boot Manager 11/10/2005 - MS - 7030 - 6A61CM4CC - 00 ********** On pressing DEL, after a long wait, SETUP appears." If it isn't obvious to you where the PC is hanging you not going to be of any use in the thread. Sorry if I caused you to nearly itch to death. But some things are obvious: 1. You're a frequent poster/reader of the Daily Kos. 2. You've never started Windows in Safe mode and watched hundreds of things scroll across the screen before any user-friendly indication that Window's is in control. |
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I have no clue what Daily Kos is, and I've booted PC's to safe mode more
times than most have booted their PC's in total, so please go whine somewhere else. -- ---- Crosspost, do not multipost http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm How to ask a question http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375 Help Us Help You http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm "HeyBub" wrote in message ... David B. wrote: Let me quote the OP for you people that can't read "The screen freezes thus: ********** Phoenix Award Workstation V6.00PG, An Energy Star Ally Copyright (C) 1984-2005, Phoenix Technologies Ltd (above is at top of the screen, most of screen is blank until bottom rows, which read: Press DEL to enter SETUP, F11 to enter Boot Manager 11/10/2005 - MS - 7030 - 6A61CM4CC - 00 ********** On pressing DEL, after a long wait, SETUP appears." If it isn't obvious to you where the PC is hanging you not going to be of any use in the thread. Sorry if I caused you to nearly itch to death. But some things are obvious: 1. You're a frequent poster/reader of the Daily Kos. 2. You've never started Windows in Safe mode and watched hundreds of things scroll across the screen before any user-friendly indication that Window's is in control. |
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Damn, and I brought my mothers tea set this morning
-- ---- Crosspost, do not multipost http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm How to ask a question http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375 Help Us Help You http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm "Snidley W." wrote in message ... "Unknown" wrote: Does that mean if I make a mistake I am to be insulted and called names? I'm referring to 'scopus'. If you have a demonstrated history of making mistakes, absolutely. Besides, this is Usenet. It's not your typical afternoon tea party where the ladies with get together for polite chit-chat. |
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You know what they say, what's good for the goose, you seem to be joining
right in; "You sure are an obnoxious, insulting know it all", I may be but at least I know what I'm talking about. -- ---- Crosspost, do not multipost http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm How to ask a question http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375 Help Us Help You http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm "Unknown" wrote in message ... Does that mean if I make a mistake I am to be insulted and called names? I'm referring to 'scopus'. "Snidley W." wrote in message ... "Unknown" wrote: Whats that got to do with politeness? People cut you some slack when you know what you are talking about - which Dave B. apparently thinks you don't. "David B." wrote in message ... At least he seems to have a clue what he's talking about. |
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Thank you Terry for a civilised reply.
The computer is one of several I built from scratch and has been in daily use for 3years or so. In retrospect, of course I should have realised it was NOT a Windows problem and to all those people who have become upset/irate about this I offer my humble apology. To those who have the time to post insults, I say "get a life" Following the useful comments I updated my BIOS with the MSI Live Monitor. This didn't help. I will now concentrate on the BIOS area and would appreciate any pointer to NG or User Group that might be able to help me. Many thanks again to those who replied constructively. "Terry R." wrote in message ... The date and time was 11/18/2008 1:30 PM, and on a whim, AT and HMB pounded out on the keyboard: For some time now my start up hangs for 5 minutes and then goes on to boot up OK. The screen freezes thus: ********** Phoenix Award Workstation V6.00PG, An Energy Star Ally Copyright (C) 1984-2005, Phoenix Technologies Ltd (above is at top of the screen, most of screen is blank until bottom rows, which read: Press DEL to enter SETUP, F11 to enter Boot Manager 11/10/2005 - MS - 7030 - 6A61CM4CC - 00 ********** On pressing DEL, after a long wait, SETUP appears. Today after coming out of setup (without change) I had to endure a further 5 minutes freeze. It always freezes at this same point and, ODDLY, it never fails to boot up OK. Help please Hi AT, The delay into Setup is either hardware or BIOS related. When you say, "coming out of setup", what are you saying? Do you see the XP logo and worm for multiple minutes? OR Is the screen black for multiple minutes BEFORE seeing the XP logo and worm? Is your Boot Manager in use? Has it always been or not been? I've seen that delay on IBM workstations that have network boot enabled, but are not longer being started that way. You may have some settings in Boot Manager that are searching for other devices, or related items in the BIOS. -- Terry R. ***Reply Note*** Anti-spam measures are included in my email address. Delete NOSPAM from the email address after clicking Reply. |
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