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You do not need to apologize, your OP was perfectly clear. I would start
with removing all add in cards and unplug all drives so you just have motherboard, CPU, RAM, and power supply, see if it goes further. if it does, add one device at a time till you find the culprit. -- ---- Crosspost, do not multipost http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm How to ask a question http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375 Help Us Help You http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm "AT and HMB" wrote in message ... Thank you Terry for a civilised reply. The computer is one of several I built from scratch and has been in daily use for 3years or so. In retrospect, of course I should have realised it was NOT a Windows problem and to all those people who have become upset/irate about this I offer my humble apology. To those who have the time to post insults, I say "get a life" Following the useful comments I updated my BIOS with the MSI Live Monitor. This didn't help. I will now concentrate on the BIOS area and would appreciate any pointer to NG or User Group that might be able to help me. Many thanks again to those who replied constructively. "Terry R." wrote in message ... The date and time was 11/18/2008 1:30 PM, and on a whim, AT and HMB pounded out on the keyboard: For some time now my start up hangs for 5 minutes and then goes on to boot up OK. The screen freezes thus: ********** Phoenix Award Workstation V6.00PG, An Energy Star Ally Copyright (C) 1984-2005, Phoenix Technologies Ltd (above is at top of the screen, most of screen is blank until bottom rows, which read: Press DEL to enter SETUP, F11 to enter Boot Manager 11/10/2005 - MS - 7030 - 6A61CM4CC - 00 ********** On pressing DEL, after a long wait, SETUP appears. Today after coming out of setup (without change) I had to endure a further 5 minutes freeze. It always freezes at this same point and, ODDLY, it never fails to boot up OK. Help please Hi AT, The delay into Setup is either hardware or BIOS related. When you say, "coming out of setup", what are you saying? Do you see the XP logo and worm for multiple minutes? OR Is the screen black for multiple minutes BEFORE seeing the XP logo and worm? Is your Boot Manager in use? Has it always been or not been? I've seen that delay on IBM workstations that have network boot enabled, but are not longer being started that way. You may have some settings in Boot Manager that are searching for other devices, or related items in the BIOS. -- Terry R. ***Reply Note*** Anti-spam measures are included in my email address. Delete NOSPAM from the email address after clicking Reply. |
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The date and time was 11/21/2008 5:33 AM, and on a whim, AT and HMB
pounded out on the keyboard: Thank you Terry for a civilised reply. The computer is one of several I built from scratch and has been in daily use for 3years or so. In retrospect, of course I should have realised it was NOT a Windows problem and to all those people who have become upset/irate about this I offer my humble apology. To those who have the time to post insults, I say "get a life" Following the useful comments I updated my BIOS with the MSI Live Monitor. This didn't help. I will now concentrate on the BIOS area and would appreciate any pointer to NG or User Group that might be able to help me. Many thanks again to those who replied constructively. Be sure to check the options of the Boot Manager. If it's sitting at the BIOS screen for a long time before proceeding, I would guess the Boot Manager is causing the delay. -- Terry R. ***Reply Note*** Anti-spam measures are included in my email address. Delete NOSPAM from the email address after clicking Reply. |
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Thanks. I will try that if Terry's suggestion doesn't work.
"David B." wrote in message ... You do not need to apologize, your OP was perfectly clear. I would start with removing all add in cards and unplug all drives so you just have motherboard, CPU, RAM, and power supply, see if it goes further. if it does, add one device at a time till you find the culprit. -- ---- Crosspost, do not multipost http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm How to ask a question http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375 Help Us Help You http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm "AT and HMB" wrote in message ... Thank you Terry for a civilised reply. The computer is one of several I built from scratch and has been in daily use for 3years or so. In retrospect, of course I should have realised it was NOT a Windows problem and to all those people who have become upset/irate about this I offer my humble apology. To those who have the time to post insults, I say "get a life" Following the useful comments I updated my BIOS with the MSI Live Monitor. This didn't help. I will now concentrate on the BIOS area and would appreciate any pointer to NG or User Group that might be able to help me. Many thanks again to those who replied constructively. "Terry R." wrote in message ... The date and time was 11/18/2008 1:30 PM, and on a whim, AT and HMB pounded out on the keyboard: For some time now my start up hangs for 5 minutes and then goes on to boot up OK. The screen freezes thus: ********** Phoenix Award Workstation V6.00PG, An Energy Star Ally Copyright (C) 1984-2005, Phoenix Technologies Ltd (above is at top of the screen, most of screen is blank until bottom rows, which read: Press DEL to enter SETUP, F11 to enter Boot Manager 11/10/2005 - MS - 7030 - 6A61CM4CC - 00 ********** On pressing DEL, after a long wait, SETUP appears. Today after coming out of setup (without change) I had to endure a further 5 minutes freeze. It always freezes at this same point and, ODDLY, it never fails to boot up OK. Help please Hi AT, The delay into Setup is either hardware or BIOS related. When you say, "coming out of setup", what are you saying? Do you see the XP logo and worm for multiple minutes? OR Is the screen black for multiple minutes BEFORE seeing the XP logo and worm? Is your Boot Manager in use? Has it always been or not been? I've seen that delay on IBM workstations that have network boot enabled, but are not longer being started that way. You may have some settings in Boot Manager that are searching for other devices, or related items in the BIOS. -- Terry R. ***Reply Note*** Anti-spam measures are included in my email address. Delete NOSPAM from the email address after clicking Reply. |
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Thanks. I will try that first. This particular computer has only ever had XP
PRO for the past (say) 2+ years: I will have to try to rethink the boot mgr thing. A few years ago, I did do quite a lot of experimenting with multi-operating systems and perhaps there is something there. On the other hand I'm at a loss to understand why this is suddenly happening when I had not even examined the BIOS for ages. "Terry R." wrote in message ... The date and time was 11/21/2008 5:33 AM, and on a whim, AT and HMB pounded out on the keyboard: Thank you Terry for a civilised reply. The computer is one of several I built from scratch and has been in daily use for 3years or so. In retrospect, of course I should have realised it was NOT a Windows problem and to all those people who have become upset/irate about this I offer my humble apology. To those who have the time to post insults, I say "get a life" Following the useful comments I updated my BIOS with the MSI Live Monitor. This didn't help. I will now concentrate on the BIOS area and would appreciate any pointer to NG or User Group that might be able to help me. Many thanks again to those who replied constructively. Be sure to check the options of the Boot Manager. If it's sitting at the BIOS screen for a long time before proceeding, I would guess the Boot Manager is causing the delay. -- Terry R. ***Reply Note*** Anti-spam measures are included in my email address. Delete NOSPAM from the email address after clicking Reply. |
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The date and time was 11/21/2008 8:55 AM, and on a whim, AT and HMB
pounded out on the keyboard: Thanks. I will try that first. This particular computer has only ever had XP PRO for the past (say) 2+ years: I will have to try to rethink the boot mgr thing. A few years ago, I did do quite a lot of experimenting with multi-operating systems and perhaps there is something there. On the other hand I'm at a loss to understand why this is suddenly happening when I had not even examined the BIOS for ages. "Terry R." wrote in message ... The date and time was 11/21/2008 5:33 AM, and on a whim, AT and HMB pounded out on the keyboard: Thank you Terry for a civilised reply. The computer is one of several I built from scratch and has been in daily use for 3years or so. In retrospect, of course I should have realised it was NOT a Windows problem and to all those people who have become upset/irate about this I offer my humble apology. To those who have the time to post insults, I say "get a life" Following the useful comments I updated my BIOS with the MSI Live Monitor. This didn't help. I will now concentrate on the BIOS area and would appreciate any pointer to NG or User Group that might be able to help me. Many thanks again to those who replied constructively. Be sure to check the options of the Boot Manager. If it's sitting at the BIOS screen for a long time before proceeding, I would guess the Boot Manager is causing the delay. I had a similar thing happen recently with an IBM workstation. It booted fine when we received it (donated computer). After wiping the drive and reinstalling Windows, the workstation sat at the BIOS screen for a couple minutes before proceeding. I thought there was an issue with the hard drive before realizing that the boot manager was looking for a network to boot. After failing its search, it would boot normally. I either changed the order or disabled it, I can't remember. I'm guessing I pressed a certain key combo to set it for network boot without realizing it. -- Terry R. ***Reply Note*** Anti-spam measures are included in my email address. Delete NOSPAM from the email address after clicking Reply. |
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[I've re-arranged your post so you would not be accused of being a
'top-posting twit'] "HeyBub" wrote in message ... David B. wrote: Let me quote the OP for you people that can't read "The screen freezes thus: ********** Phoenix Award Workstation V6.00PG, An Energy Star Ally Copyright (C) 1984-2005, Phoenix Technologies Ltd (above is at top of the screen, most of screen is blank until bottom rows, which read: Press DEL to enter SETUP, F11 to enter Boot Manager 11/10/2005 - MS - 7030 - 6A61CM4CC - 00 ********** On pressing DEL, after a long wait, SETUP appears." If it isn't obvious to you where the PC is hanging you not going to be of any use in the thread. Sorry if I caused you to nearly itch to death. But some things are obvious: 1. You're a frequent poster/reader of the Daily Kos. 2. You've never started Windows in Safe mode and watched hundreds of things scroll across the screen before any user-friendly indication that Window's is in control. David B. wrote: I have no clue what Daily Kos is, and I've booted PC's to safe mode more times than most have booted their PC's in total, so please go whine somewhere else. Ah, okay. As Sherlock Holmes said: "If you've eliminated all other possibilities, whatever's left, no matter how improbable, must be the answer." You are insane. Sorry. |
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Since you have to press DEL to enter the BIOS, you probably have a Dell
machine. Look at the Owner's Manual, and study the BIOS menu description. There should be a way to request that the BIOS do a full memory check and/or run some other system diagnostic routine. That is probably the source of the long delay - the machine is checking itself. Just turn off that diagnostic routine. *TimDaniels* "AT and HMB" wrote: For some time now my start up hangs for 5 minutes and then goes on to boot up OK. The screen freezes thus: ********** Phoenix Award Workstation V6.00PG, An Energy Star Ally Copyright (C) 1984-2005, Phoenix Technologies Ltd (above is at top of the screen, most of screen is blank until bottom rows, which read: Press DEL to enter SETUP, F11 to enter Boot Manager 11/10/2005 - MS - 7030 - 6A61CM4CC - 00 ********** On pressing DEL, after a long wait, SETUP appears. Today after coming out of setup (without change) I had to endure a further 5 minutes freeze. It always freezes at this same point and, ODDLY, it never fails to boot up OK. Help please |
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The date and time was 11/22/2008 10:26 AM, and on a whim, Timothy
Daniels pounded out on the keyboard: Since you have to press DEL to enter the BIOS, you probably have a Dell machine. Look at the Owner's Manual, and study the BIOS menu description. There should be a way to request that the BIOS do a full memory check and/or run some other system diagnostic routine. That is probably the source of the long delay - the machine is checking itself. Just turn off that diagnostic routine. *TimDaniels* "AT and HMB" wrote: For some time now my start up hangs for 5 minutes and then goes on to boot up OK. The screen freezes thus: ********** Phoenix Award Workstation V6.00PG, An Energy Star Ally Copyright (C) 1984-2005, Phoenix Technologies Ltd (above is at top of the screen, most of screen is blank until bottom rows, which read: Press DEL to enter SETUP, F11 to enter Boot Manager 11/10/2005 - MS - 7030 - 6A61CM4CC - 00 ********** On pressing DEL, after a long wait, SETUP appears. Today after coming out of setup (without change) I had to endure a further 5 minutes freeze. It always freezes at this same point and, ODDLY, it never fails to boot up OK. Help please The OP stated he built the box in a later reply (11-21-08), -- Terry R. ***Reply Note*** Anti-spam measures are included in my email address. Delete NOSPAM from the email address after clicking Reply. |
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On Sat, 22 Nov 2008 10:26:11 -0800, "Timothy Daniels"
wrote: Since you have to press DEL to enter the BIOS, you probably have a Dell machine. SHEESH! Goes to show what YOU know about 'puters. I have a home-built machine and I enter the BIOS with the DEL key. It's not a computer brand that controls that, it's the BIOS chip on the mobo. |
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"Randall" wrote:
"Timothy Daniels" wrote: Since you have to press DEL to enter the BIOS, you probably have a Dell machine. SHEESH! Goes to show what YOU know about 'puters. I have a home-built machine and I enter the BIOS with the DEL key. It's not a computer brand that controls that, it's the BIOS chip on the mobo. Dell uses BIOSes developed and customized for them by Phoenix Technologies. Most, if not all, Dell branded PCs have those BIOSes, and pressing DEL is the way to enter them. Now you may solve your problem by yourself - you who can't differentiate POST from Windows startup. *TimDaniels* |
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On Sat, 22 Nov 2008 14:55:34 -0800, "Timothy Daniels"
wrote: "Randall" wrote: "Timothy Daniels" wrote: Since you have to press DEL to enter the BIOS, you probably have a Dell machine. SHEESH! Goes to show what YOU know about 'puters. I have a home-built machine and I enter the BIOS with the DEL key. It's not a computer brand that controls that, it's the BIOS chip on the mobo. Dell uses BIOSes developed and customized for them by Phoenix Technologies. Most, if not all, Dell branded PCs have those BIOSes, and pressing DEL is the way to enter them. But they are not the ONLY computers that have a Phoenix BIOS, doofus. You specifically stated: "Since you have to press DEL to enter the BIOS, you probably have a Dell machine." Probably have? Nope. Might have? Yep. Now you may solve your problem by yourself - you who can't differentiate POST from Windows startup. Dunno where you conjured up that gem - or did you pull it outta yer fat hiney!? You don't even know who the OP is! HINT: it's not I. |
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"Randall", don't you have better things to do?
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"Randall" wrote:
Dell uses BIOSes developed and customized for them by Phoenix Technologies. Most, if not all, Dell branded PCs have those BIOSes, and pressing DEL is the way to enter them. But they are not the ONLY computers that have a Phoenix BIOS, doofus. You specifically stated: "Since you have to press DEL to enter the BIOS, you probably have a Dell machine." Probably have? Nope. Might have? Yep. Probably have. Dell buys far more BIOS chips with the Phoenix BIOS than homebuilders like you. *TimDaniels* |
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On Sat, 22 Nov 2008 17:35:43 -0800, "Timothy Daniels"
wrote: "Randall", don't you have better things to do? *TimDaniels* It's difficult to take one's finger off the trigger when there are such easy targets within range. |
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That's typical of dumb asses such as yourself that have no valid argument,
name calling. Get off your parents computer and go play hopscotch or something. -- ---- Crosspost, do not multipost http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm How to ask a question http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375 Help Us Help You http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm "HeyBub" wrote in message ... [I've re-arranged your post so you would not be accused of being a 'top-posting twit'] "HeyBub" wrote in message ... David B. wrote: Let me quote the OP for you people that can't read "The screen freezes thus: ********** Phoenix Award Workstation V6.00PG, An Energy Star Ally Copyright (C) 1984-2005, Phoenix Technologies Ltd (above is at top of the screen, most of screen is blank until bottom rows, which read: Press DEL to enter SETUP, F11 to enter Boot Manager 11/10/2005 - MS - 7030 - 6A61CM4CC - 00 ********** On pressing DEL, after a long wait, SETUP appears." If it isn't obvious to you where the PC is hanging you not going to be of any use in the thread. Sorry if I caused you to nearly itch to death. But some things are obvious: 1. You're a frequent poster/reader of the Daily Kos. 2. You've never started Windows in Safe mode and watched hundreds of things scroll across the screen before any user-friendly indication that Window's is in control. David B. wrote: I have no clue what Daily Kos is, and I've booted PC's to safe mode more times than most have booted their PC's in total, so please go whine somewhere else. Ah, okay. As Sherlock Holmes said: "If you've eliminated all other possibilities, whatever's left, no matter how improbable, must be the answer." You are insane. Sorry. |
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